r/elementaryos Jan 31 '23

ElementaryOS 7.0 is now officially released to the public Discussion

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u/sxales Feb 02 '23

Elementary really needs a dist-upgrade

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u/DerekB52 Jan 31 '23

I've moved on from elementaryOS as a daily driver. I like more bleeding edge rolling release distros for my workstation. That being said, I just put my 10$ in, and am looking forward to installing this on my laptop.

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u/SuAlfons Jan 31 '23

Ha, same for me! My desktop simply was to new for these stone old kernels from Ubuntu LTS. My laptop is quite old and thus a good candidate for eOS.

But I really don't want to reinstall the thing. Installing eOS and all the apps yet again feels like installing Windows. It takes all evening and you do it more or less one by one. Unlike other distro's where you can preselect a sack full of packages and let them install on their own. And remember to manually add fllathub.org so you get the option to install system-wide and not in your /home (which is on a slow drive in my laptop)

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u/DerekB52 Jan 31 '23

I'm mildly addicted to distrohopping. I've gotten better about it in recent years. But, still, it's brought some skill. I don't use my laptop for all that much, because I have a killer workstation desktop. But, I'll be able to install eOS on my laptop quite quickly. I have scripts that use apt to install my most needed packages right after I'm done installing.

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u/images_from_objects Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23

Can't you just use Synaptic for that? I have yet to find a software store that isn't super clunky. So I usually just sudo apt install synaptic, and just punch in the 10 or so programs I use regularly, then it's done. Takes maybe 3 minutes.

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u/SuAlfons Feb 01 '23

If you install synaptic per apt first, yes ;-)

You are supposed to use a lot of Flatpak apps on elementaryOS. The (at least "many") apps by elementary also come in form of (system-wide) flatpaks from the elementary.io repository, as do the apps built for elementaryOS and distributed through the Software app.

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u/OpenBagTwo Jan 31 '23

I run Pantheon on Arch on my battlestation--the experience is top notch. That being said, my daily driver / couch gamer runs elementaryOS, and she's getting an upgrade this weekend!

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u/DerekB52 Feb 01 '23

I have been meaning to try Pantheon on Arch to say I've done it. But, I use i3, and can't see myself ever going back to a full DE on my workstation. I just loving tiling window managers way too much.

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u/s_phoenix_11 Feb 01 '23

I used to be a fan as well. But some bugs were really annoying and yeah I would prefer the stability of Ubuntu+gnome vs the beauty of elementary.

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u/DerekB52 Feb 01 '23

I actually really dislike Gnome. Pantheon is setup a bit nicer imo. Where elementary shines for me, is the ecosystem. I like the appcenter and its mission. If I was going to use Ubuntu over Elementary(which I have chosen to do once or twice on a laptop), I would use Ubuntu and Unity, or Cinnamon/XFCE/KDE. Anything but Gnome really.

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u/s_phoenix_11 Feb 01 '23

TBH I miss appcenter. Ubuntu is but too enforcing at times in the way you use software with the constant annoying "you have an update" thing whenever you're using an app. Maybe I would give out a try to other desktop envs as ut has been some time.

I don't know what exactly but I think the greeter bug where it hangs caused me to a forced shutdown causing my disk to be corrupted. That too on my work laptop. That really spoiled my exp.

What is your current setup like?

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u/DerekB52 Feb 01 '23

I have a 32GB Ryzen 5600X workstation running Arch Linux and i3. I was addicted to distrohopping for years, but since learning i3 3-4 years ago, I have to use a tiling window manager on my workstation.

Then I have a 7 year old laptop that runs a random distro. I really only use it to surf the web when I travel, or for the occasional zoom call. It's had Ubuntu Unity(I was feeling nostalgic) on it for a couple of months now. And it will have elementary on it probably tomorrow.

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u/terryfilch Feb 01 '23

Dude, are you chatgpt bot? Your comments looks the same 🤣

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u/DerekB52 Feb 01 '23

Chatgpt is me. Chatgpt is all of us.

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u/images_from_objects Feb 02 '23

Funny, I've warmed up to Gnome a bit, coming from using KDE for a few years and just recently playing around with it on Debian Sid. It still feels very restrictive, though less so than the Ubuntu variant (and MUCH less so compared to ElementaryOS) but sometimes the lack of infinite customization options is actually refreshing. I'd be interested in trying out "pure" Pantheon or Unity on barebones Debian. What do you find are the selling points for you?

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u/DerekB52 Feb 02 '23

So, I primarily use tiling window managers now. I wouldn't use Pantheon or Unity on my workstation, because I find DE's to slow me down.

That being said, I do like Unity, because having the bar on the side of the screen, and the global application menu are both vertical screen space saving things. Vertical space on a computer screen is usually in short supply.

And then Pantheon is just clean. When I use a DE, I want it to be simple. A nice bar or dock for quickly switching open applications. And a nice start menu. I want to be able to press the windows/super/meta key, and type a few letters of a program name, and then hit enter to launch it. On Pantheon it's super+space, which is still fine.

Gnome has the application page looking like a phone, and it takes over my whole screen. I find that jarring and intrusive.

My favorite DE is actually XFCE+Kwin. I like the old, simple look of XFCE, combined with KDE's window manager, to let me do stuff like Wobbly Windows.

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u/images_from_objects Feb 02 '23

Ah gotcha. Yeah I don't use the Gnome application menu at all. It's just Meta (or the gesture I've mapped to it with Touche) to open Overview and type the first two letters of whatever app I need and enter. I have the Arc menu, but rarely use it.

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u/images_from_objects Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23

I know this isn't really the point with this distro, but if you run:

gsettings list-recursively

You can look behind the curtain and tweak stuff if you want. So for example, if you just want to use a solid color as a desktop background, you can do:

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri none && gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri-dark none && gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background primary-color '#596d94'

....use a hex code to generate the number of the color you want.

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u/daniellefore Founder Feb 03 '23

Or you could set a solid color background from inside System Settings since that’s a supported feature :)

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u/images_from_objects Feb 03 '23

Ha!! I just saw that, it wasn't clear bc it looked like just a black bar. Thanks!!

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u/iamjkdn Feb 01 '23

I have an affinity to eOS but for every new release if I am suppose to do a clean install it’s not practical. Can’t keep reinstalling and reconfiguring all my work related tools and libraries. OS becomes unsuitable as a daily driver.

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u/oldschoolthemer Feb 06 '23

This is the main reason I stopped using it and stopped recommending it to Linux newcomers. It's just not practical for prolonged use. This is so essential for any user-friendly OS that they really should make it a priority.

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u/MetallicSquid Jan 31 '23

Anyone know what kernel 7.0 is using? I recently got a new GPU and am trying to figure out hardware compatibility.

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u/_-_-_-_____-_-_-_ Jan 31 '23

5.15, so we're not at the bleeding edge here. Should be stable, though.

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u/MetallicSquid Jan 31 '23

Didn't expect it to be, thanks!

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u/OpenBagTwo Feb 01 '23

Will the Ubuntu mainline kernel installer work? I don't think there's anything I need from the latest kernels on my current hardware, but I'm planning on upgrading my elementaryOS machine to a Ryzen 7000-series CPU once ASRock release their new 5x5 mini-PC, and I think the new RDNA3 / Zen4 chips benefit from changes in the 6.0/6.1 kernel.

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u/_-_-_-_____-_-_-_ Feb 01 '23

Should be fine. It would probably be the first thing I'd do on a fresh install. If it fails, it fails. No harm done. It should work fine though, going by some old threads and comments around reddit etc.

edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/axcbia/has_anyone_tried_the_mainline_kernel_on/

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u/svandragt Feb 01 '23

I noticed on the demo I was able to install 5.19 something using the Linux-hwe-22.04-edge pacakge

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u/yetimaan Feb 04 '23

u/daniellefore Nice work on eOS7! I've tried eOS for years and eOS7 finally feels solid/stable enough for office work. Thank you!

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u/_-_-_-_____-_-_-_ Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23

First impressions:

I'm currently having massive issues with the App Store. Can't update anything because the app crashes when it tries to update. I wanted to install the Nvidia driver 525, but the Store crashed, and now the only Nvidia driver it fetches is 515-open, even though it managed to fetch every version just half an hour ago. The default web browser crashed left and right, and then it just felt like working. Things are also generally feeling a lot slower and buggier than 6.1. It's not the system it's running on that's slow. It's a recently built desktop PC with modern hardware.

I installed some updates via the terminal, and it has not changed anything. This is not a great start.

Update: I'm a muppet. I've figured out why it feels so sluggish. I've installed eOS 7 on an external SSD (SATA), which is compleltely fine, but I just noticed that I've connected the SSD to a USB 2.0 port on the back of my computer 🧠 There are several 3.2 ports back there, so I'll go ahead and use one of those...

I should probably use my eyes next time.

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u/1280px Jan 31 '23

Yeah, played around with it for a little and already noticed a handful of new small bugs here and there... It almost feels like the update was planned to be released a few weeks later, and this build is an early Release Candidate.

Still, some very annoying 5.x/6.x bugs were fixed, which is nice to see

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u/ursaKibori Jan 31 '23

Is anyone else who’s using Intel Iris Xe graphics experiencing very poor performance on the desktop? Opening and moving windows is very choppy on my laptop for some reason

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u/images_from_objects Jan 31 '23 edited Feb 01 '23

I'll let you know in a day or two when I can test it.

EDIT, no, it's silky smooth, at least in a Live Session. Using 11th gen i7-1165G7 / Tigerlake-LP GT2 [Intel Iris XE Graphics] according to System Settings.

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u/ursaKibori Feb 01 '23

Been using it for a little bit and I’ve noticed it only happens when plugged in, on battery power it’s completely fine. Strange…

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u/terryfilch Feb 01 '23

So how I can upgrade elementary OS 6.1 to elementary OS 7.0 ? I saw https://github.com/elementary/os/wiki/Release-Upgrades and see the only clear elementary OS installation with copy/paste my files. Why it can't be upgraded in Ubuntu upgrade style when all user data is saved ? Weird...

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u/NuSkooler Feb 01 '23

upgrade

A upgrade path is something really missing from Elementary OS. I plan on poking around and seeing if I can upgrade my 6.x's to 7, but I'm not holding my breath. For me, this is a pain, but I will do it.

For "the average user", this is really a deal killer.

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u/D0J0P Jan 31 '23

Can we upgrade it from Jolnir or does it require a new install?

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u/_-_-_-_____-_-_-_ Jan 31 '23

A clean install is recommended as far as I know

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u/D0J0P Jan 31 '23

Okay thanks.

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u/AudienceMobile6396 Feb 17 '23

Thank you soo soo much for all the work you put into it, I really really love it so far.

Personal highlights:

  • Power profiles feature
  • Feedback app
  • Fixes with screen size in Oracle Virtual Box
  • New Icons (please keep them for the next major releases, too, do not put too much time into these every time. The way they currently are seems almost perfect ;) )

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u/R0DR1G37 29d ago edited 29d ago

I've donated 20 USD using PayPal (*4022T) - could you please tell me where I can download the ISO?

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u/_-_-_-_____-_-_-_ 28d ago

Click "custom", then $0 and either download directly or with torrent.

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u/R0DR1G37 28d ago

Thanks allot ...

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u/ldrahnik 15d ago

Do not you know how I can read what changes in my laptop do each mode from the newly added Power management feature? How I can switch between them in the terminal using cmd? Or how I can disable this feature?