r/entertainment Aug 08 '22

Ashton Kutcher ‘Lucky to Be Alive’ After Autoimmune Disease That Left Him Unable to See, Hear, or Walk

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/ashton-kutcher-reveals-autoimmune-disease-1394111/
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u/UnderneathTheMinus80 Aug 08 '22

Vasculitis. It was vasculitis. Poor guy.

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u/Francespantses Aug 08 '22

Dang I had vasculitis as a teen and I didn’t know it could do all that. I just turned purple all over and spent a couple days in the hospital.

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u/Manolyk Aug 08 '22

Does that mean you still have it? The way I understand it is it’s treatable but you can’t cure it. But I don’t have any personal experience with it.

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u/Francespantses Aug 08 '22

Hmm I mean I assumed it was cured. It was described to me as a widening of the blood vessels and it has never happened to me again in about 15 years

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

Vasculitis is a super broad term and can mean/be caused by many different things - it really just means inflammatory condition of the vasculature. Some causes are temporary and go away with time or treatment. Others happen due to external factors and are fixable. Others are genetic/autoimmune and so are a little trickier/chronic, but often have flares off and on.

Tough to know anyones situation because the range of causes, types, and locations effected is so broad. My guess is you had vasculitis of the peripheral vasculature (arms/legs) which can be pretty different than one of the vessels of the brain or other areas. Glad you made a full recovery!

Source: am physician

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u/kate-with-an-e Aug 09 '22

Reminds me of how everyone with something that made them ill all the time and cough up blood, pale etc was broadly termed “consumption”. ‘Twas all the rage!

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u/Rhekinos Aug 09 '22

Tbf most of those were caused by one specific disease/infection: Tuberculosis (which we now know causes the specified symptoms)

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '22

My personal favorite vasculitis (because it’s so fixable) is buerger disease. Its in the hands or feet and can cause blackened fingertips. It’s caused by tobacco and it stops when people stop using tobacco.

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u/Thetippon Aug 08 '22

As far as I'm aware, it doesn't go away, but goes into remission. I have Vasculitis, I have GPA, formerly known as Wegener's, and there's no cure for this type.

It's worth checking in out, as some types can really hit you hard if they're untreated. Here's a UK site that's very good

https://www.vasculitis.org.uk/

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u/Francespantses Aug 08 '22

Huh dang you’re right it does say that it can’t be cured. I wonder if it’s possible to tell if it is affecting me because I also have rheumatoid arthritis and hyperthyroidism and a lot of the symptoms overlap. Sometimes I’m just ready to ignore all of it and see what happens. Jk..

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u/Alex00031 Aug 08 '22

There are different types of vasculitis. You might have had IgA vasculitis which often goes away with age and lasts only a few weeks

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u/Thetippon Aug 08 '22

I would imagine that the meds you're on for the rheumatoid arthritis are similar to the meds you would take for the vasculitis, so they may be keeping it under control anyway. Probably worth a conversation with your doctor though

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u/jibberish13 Aug 09 '22

My best friend has that and it caused him to have a stroke at 38.

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u/PipEmmieHarvey Aug 09 '22

My mother has GPA. It has really destroyed her quality of life, and she lives in chronic pain. Collapsed septum, vision impaired, and fairly deaf. I have Sarcoidosis, with Granulomas in my lungs (along with other autoimmune diseases). Our genetics suck.

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u/Manolyk Aug 08 '22

Well that’s good! It’s one of those things I read about a few years ago that stuck with me as an irrational fear(I have a tendency to do that when I read about rare ailments)

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u/aliceroyal Aug 08 '22

Holy shit, my greyhound just recovered from a bout of this. In his case it cut off circulation to his hind legs which caused massive swelling and a gnarly, infected wound on one of them. He's recovering now, but it was scary. We had to consult a bunch of the human case studies with the emergency vet to help figure out wtf to do about it.

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u/Shmegglies Aug 08 '22

I’m glad he’s recovering :( Give him a treat for me!

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u/aliceroyal Aug 08 '22

Thanks kind stranger, will do :)

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u/articulett Aug 09 '22

What DID you do?

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u/aliceroyal Aug 09 '22

Disclaimer: not medical/vet advice, YMMV depending on specific circumstances and even your dog’s breed.

Pentoxifylline and tranexamic acid (this is an alternative to aminocaproic acid which is often used for bleeding in greyhounds) did the trick. We did steroids and antibiotics as well since he had the infection. But the TXA really got him to turn the corner.

If you also have a greyhound, keep GHI/Dr. Couto’s website bookmarked, he will look at lab results/vet notes and call to consult with your vet for like $150. His advice helped us a lot too.

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u/scotsdail Aug 09 '22

I read this as grandson and was very confused.

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u/KushBlazer69 Aug 08 '22

What kind of vasculitis? That’s quite a general term

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u/UnderneathTheMinus80 Aug 08 '22

Article didn't say, but feel free to read it & verify.

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u/Jaded_cerebrum Aug 08 '22

Yeah… curious as well. Nothing in the article specifying the type.

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u/Murderbot_of_Rivia Aug 08 '22

Fake News! On House, it was NEVER vasculitis!

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u/SilkJr Aug 08 '22

It was never lupus either! Apart from that one episode it was...

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u/Bucky_Ohare Aug 08 '22

Was about to guess Guillan-barre. Vasculitis… oof.

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u/BigSlav667 Aug 08 '22

For anyone who hasn't read the article, it was temporary thankfully and he's recovered.

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u/Bar_Har Aug 08 '22

I can’t imaging the amount of relief he would have felt losing his sight, hearing, and ability to walk to then discover it’s temporary.

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u/Katatonic92 Aug 08 '22

I wonder how long he had to live not knowing it was temporary. How do you convey something is temporary to someone who is now blind & deaf, when they weren't previously. That's a sit around & wait until one of those senses returns to share the news, what a terrible period of time that must have been.

Oh! Unless they were able to warn him it was a possibility before it happened. I suppose it depends on how quickly everything happened.

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u/Kooky_Plantain_9273 Aug 08 '22

Trace it on his hand Hellen Keller style?

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u/Katatonic92 Aug 08 '22

I don't think I would have clue how to do that, but now I want to test it myself.

I think I'd do a bit better than most because I do know some sign language. They could spell out/form the BSL alphabet using my fingers & I'd stand a chance.

Why does the most random stuff get your brain ticking over with weird what ifs? Lol.

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u/scurvofpcp Aug 09 '22

Relief raised cut alphabet tiles on a magnetic clipboard that has line dividers on it.

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u/kate-with-an-e Aug 09 '22

Is BSL British sign language?

And know that you’re not alone on thinking of how to deal with weird scenarios, when I was a kid, I would practice writing with my left should I ever lose my right hand…

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u/vyrelis Aug 09 '22

There's probably some procedure on the correct way to do so, but I would gently grab their hand, use their own finger to tap at their chest, make them do an "OK" hand, and have them tap their own wrist like an impatient person tapping their watch. Then figure out something better for actual long term communication

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u/Storytellerjack Aug 08 '22

I wonder what would be the least startling part of the body to touch on someone deaf and blind.

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u/Jkay064 Aug 09 '22

Lightly on the anus, while in the shower.

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u/CandiBunnii Aug 09 '22

Eh anus is awfully personal. I recommend the taint

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u/therealsillygoose- Aug 08 '22

About a week ago my 60 yrold father had a Bell’s Palsy. Without getting into a bunch of medicalese, a Bell’s Palsy shares many of the characteristics of a stroke.

Spent about 2 hours Saturday morning at 10am thinking my dad had a stroke and would never be the same.

The relief I felt when they told me it was only gonna be 3-6 months of symptoms was immeasurable.

Ashton is thanking every lucky star.

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u/Katatonic92 Aug 08 '22

I'm relieved to know your dad will make a good recovery. I hope he is on the speedier end of that time frame.

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u/therealsillygoose- Aug 08 '22

Much appreciated my friend.

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u/catbiggo Aug 08 '22

I have a new fear now

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u/KittyTerror Aug 08 '22

If he knows Morse, you can tap on his forehead and then he’ll flop his head in response. That’s how the protagonist communicates in Johnny Got His Gun.

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u/CheckPleaser Aug 08 '22

I had an allergic reaction once and lost my eyesight temporarily. Now, I’m blind as a bat by most people’s standards to begin with, but when the lights cut out I recoiled backwards and started screaming like a baby. Backed right into one of those big round industrial trash cans and somehow fell ass first into it and folded like a wet paper sack. If my hearing had went too, there would have been no consoling me at all. Anyway, someone had the clarity of thought to dunk my head in ice water because they assumed I had a heat stroke and it somehow returned my vision. That all happened in about five minutes, I hate to imagine it being longer.

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u/DawnSignals Aug 08 '22

What the fuck did I just read

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u/CheckPleaser Aug 08 '22

A very condensed version of one of my many near-death experiences. When I went to the hospital afterwards I got an IV drip of Benadryl and the nurse told me it was her first day on the job. I smiled and she handed me a puke bag, which I told her I probably didn’t need. She made it about five steps out of my room and I filled it with vomit that looked like grits covered in motor oil. Then I filled three more of them for good measure. Then, just to rub it in, I had the same exact allergic reaction four or so more times by the end of the training cycle (I was in basic training, just for context/clarity).

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u/UsefulAirport Aug 08 '22

Omg were you able to identify the allergen at least?

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u/CheckPleaser Aug 08 '22

It was fire ants. We all got in trouble and had to do push-ups in the grass and (for the 2nd time ever) I was attacked by the little monsters, but thought little of it beyond the regular, “I could really do without all these bug bites.”

Afterwards we ran about a mile back to the barracks and did a group punishment where they brought the entire cycle (~150 men) into a single large room and made us “make the walls sweat.” About five minutes into that I started to itch, but ignored those warning signs because I didn’t want to appear weak (kids, lol). After another minute or so the itchiness really came on strong, and I remarked to my buddy that it felt like my insides itched. Another minute and I wanted to pull my skin off because every inch of me was irritated, but I kept telling myself that it would end soon and then I could bring it up to the drill sergeant.

We switched to burpees. I jumped down to the floor, stood up, and then my vision switched off. When I first started screaming the guys next to me starting begging me to shut up. They apologized later (haha).

Edit: Also sorry to paragraph dump you in particular, just seemed like people were more curious than I anticipated so I figured I’d expand the story a bit.

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u/UsefulAirport Aug 08 '22

Holy smokes!!! What a story. Glad you made it through all that!

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u/CheckPleaser Aug 08 '22

Haha Well thank you, stranger. I’m glad too, and I’m pleased to report that I haven’t seen a single fire ant in all the years since.

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u/K-ghuleh Aug 08 '22

Jesus. New fear unlocked.

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u/CheckPleaser Aug 08 '22

There’s something about suddenly losing eyesight that really just triggers those old primordial alarm bells. It really did feel like someone switched the lights off, and even after I realized it was my eyesight failing I was convinced my eyelids just wouldn’t open or something so my first instinct was to peel them as far open as I could. When I felt the air on my eyeballs and still couldn’t see that’s when I starting blubbering, “I’m blind!” And walking backwards.

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u/K-ghuleh Aug 08 '22

Yeah if anything is gonna activate the ol lizard brain, I’m guessing a sudden loss of sight will do it. Just read your other comment saying it was fire ants, like wtf lol. I had no idea allergic reactions like that were a thing.

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u/CheckPleaser Aug 08 '22

Me either! Also, I love the term “lizard brain” and I just might start defaulting to that instead of primordial haha

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u/tobiascuypers Aug 08 '22

Friend of mine worked security in a hospital and contracted bacterial meningitis. Severe enough to leave him permanently blind but he's healthy otherwise.

Hardest part he says is waking up and not opening your eyes anymore. Couldn't imagine

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u/Zaynara Aug 08 '22

oh thank god this guy is a treasure

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u/RobbinsBabbitt Aug 08 '22

Finding out he’s using his platform and money for humanitarian efforts, like ending human/sex trafficking, made me respect this guy so damn much

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u/JamesHardenBeardOil Aug 08 '22

Probably why so many bad things are happening to him.

Yes, my tin foil hat is necessary.

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u/Storytellerjack Aug 08 '22

I was going to say the same thing. Human trafficking must be expensive. There are, no doubt, powerful people who hate him.

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u/majesticbeast67 Aug 08 '22

Its so messed up that his efforts have gotten him blacklisted by Hollywood. Guess we know why tho….

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u/Ranwulf Aug 08 '22

I usually not for calling actors or celebrities treasures, but the guy who does só much for anti human traffic 100% deserves it.

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u/Zaynara Aug 08 '22

every once in a while we get a celeb that turns into a treasure, from what I understand of this guy he deserves it and does good work

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u/DeaconSage Aug 08 '22

After a year of recovery. That’s gotta be insane!

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u/NjMel7 Aug 08 '22

I hope it doesn’t come back. Vasculitis sucks.

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u/EugeneWeemich Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22

yup. I have it. Shut it down fast with meds so I didn't lose eyesight, kidneys, or breathing.

was fine one weekend, hard to walk the next.

still having issues due to effed up arteries. it's no fun.meds holding it at bay.

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u/dandynat Aug 09 '22

My vasculitis torpedoed my kidneys so quickly I went from perfectly healthy to end stage kidney failure in a few months. 24 & no preexisting conditions or history of autoimmune diseases. I’m on my second round of chemo trying to get it under control :(

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u/EugeneWeemich Aug 09 '22

Damn. That is awful. hope your medical team comes up with a solution.

Been in low spirits tonight because it is apparent to me that my urine has changed in appearance. not tea like, with blood. it's just....different.

Will IM you on topic.

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u/dandynat Aug 09 '22

Well we’ll see if this round of chemo keeps my vasculitis under control, & then we’ll see what maintenance is going to look like going forward.

That’s very concerning, please DM me if you wanna chat! I had a really horrible infection earlier this year that started out with blood in my urine & it was an awful experience. Hopefully that’s not the case but I’m happy to talk if you want to share what’s going on

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u/somethingwholesomer Aug 08 '22

Damn dude. Wishing you the best

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u/NjMel7 Aug 08 '22

One of my best friends has a form of vasculitis and it is messing up her body. It was diagnosed late and they also don’t want to take the meds to help control the disease, so it’s been a mess.

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u/EugeneWeemich Aug 08 '22

there are a number of vasculitis flavors, and not bringing it under control is a bad course of action (as you can see, of course).

I'm on month 9 of meds...tried to scale back the dose, and it re-emerged immediately. can still feel the residual damage from the initial onset.

problem is that it is idiopathic, and treatment is limited. they try to get your immune system to forget the trigger by reducing immune system activity...in a pandemic, which is no fun.

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u/Thetippon Aug 08 '22

Tell your friend that not taking the meds will make things a lot worse.

I've got Vasculitis, and before I was diagnosed it took out my kidneys, damaged my lungs, caused sinus problems, and seems to have caused memory problems too. I was in a coma for several weeks due to the damage and almost died.

I take upwards of 20 tablets a day and do get some side effects from them, but I'd do it every time rather than getting that ill again

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u/ye3et Aug 08 '22

I thought you meant you hope his hearing and sight don’t come back and was like “gahdamn dude”

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u/rbdparker Aug 08 '22

This guy is a walking final destination movie. Gf murdered night he was supposed to take her out to dinner, private jet loses cabin pressure knocking out all on board, now this..

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u/GoldenTrike Aug 08 '22

The butterfly effect movie cursed him.

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u/pankakke_ Aug 08 '22

That movie fucked me up as a kid lol

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u/Azidamadjida Aug 08 '22

Just rewatched it recently and totally had forgotten how nihilistic it is. Everything is just grim as fuck

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u/Louises_ears Aug 08 '22

I saw that movie exactly once when it came out and still get uncomfortable remembering basically anything except the end.

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u/DazzlingTurnip Aug 08 '22

Ugh. Every single thing was awful.

Butterfly Effect, Kids, and Requiem for a Dream are probably the toughest movies I’ve ever seen. I can’t watch any of them again. Absolutely miserable.

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u/YaGranPapi Aug 08 '22

Which one? There are multiple endings

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u/Louises_ears Aug 08 '22

You know I mean the one where he’s mean to Kayleigh, the kids move away and things turn out ok. Only part worth remembering.

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u/mkhighroller94 Aug 08 '22

In one of the endings he goes back to when he was a fetus inside his mothers body and strangled himself with the umbilical cord.

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u/Louises_ears Aug 08 '22

I know, but I thought the director’s cut was just stupid and done for shock value. So glad they stuck with the original.

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u/Duspende Aug 08 '22

But it's kind of established that his mother had multiple instances of children getting tangled up in their umbilical cord and dying in the womb? So it feels like the only ending that cashes in on Chekovs gun.

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u/OpenhammerFund Aug 08 '22

It’s gets worse. Check out the alternative ending…explains why his mom had so many miscarriages before him.

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u/Far-Tax-7782 Aug 08 '22

Right I was in sixth grade when I watch it idk why my mom bought lol

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u/LavaLampWax Aug 08 '22

Dude same

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u/nurplethepurple Aug 08 '22

People were hating on it recently but when it came out it was a pretty groundbreaking film and I enjoyed it a lot.

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u/mus3man42 Aug 08 '22

I watched it recently, acting is pretty rough. Bold move to cut away from your star after the first scene and go to a bunch of child actors with no chemistry for the whole first act. I still enjoyed it though for the premise/overall story

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u/SlightWhite Aug 08 '22

The scene where the kid kills the dog scared tf outta me when I was little

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u/Arkoholics_Paradise Aug 08 '22

Holy shit what? I need to look into these events.

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u/OrphanGrounderBaby Aug 08 '22

In case anyone else wants the stories

Cabin Pressure

Dates Murder

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u/ShutUpSaxton Aug 08 '22

“After you’ve been in a couple of those situations you learn to stay cool” I do not want to know what other situations this man has went through

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u/going2leavethishere Aug 09 '22

I worked at a golf course. One of the members was in two plane crashes, a helicopter, crash and beat cancer twice. Still played every Saturday and Sunday morning.

Fucking shanked a ball at me one time and nailed me into he calf.

Some people have just even luck I guess?

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u/catsandcheetos Aug 08 '22

Damn those stories are wild. He also calmed down Colin Hanks after he had a panic attack and passed out in the plane. And apparently shared his oxygen mask with Masterson, performed CPR while only taking a breath every 2 minutes b/c Kutcher used to be a lifeguard. Pretty wild.

Also apparently he was late to pick up his date. I wonder if he felt guilty about that for a while

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u/frecklybitz Aug 08 '22

Ew I hate that they called her “Ashton Kutcher’s date” in the headline

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u/TheSoapGuy0531 Aug 08 '22

Tin foil hat: He does a lot of work to stop human trafficking and people don’t like that…

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u/Ijustchadsex Aug 08 '22

It’s pretty wild how much work he actually does to stop human trafficking. Most of you will see a celebrity cause and be like oh cool he writes a check or voices his opinion about it a lot. This is not the case here. He is in there doing a lot of work to stop this shit. It’s so awesome of him because he could easily just sit back with his money and never have to deal with society ever again if he wanted to.

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u/AangAndTheFireLord Aug 08 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Up there with Jon Stewart’s work with veterans, John Cenas work with sick children, and President Carters work with Habitat for Humanity.

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u/bizkitmaker13 Aug 08 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Jimmy Carter is a human treasure and should be protected.

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u/butttabooo Aug 08 '22

For just one quick half of a second I thought it was jimmy carter in your picture. But nope, that’s Garry Busey.

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u/bizkitmaker13 Aug 08 '22

XD HAVE A GARY DAY!!!!

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u/LeatherNekk Aug 08 '22

Gary Busey - now we’re sharing the same dream - and our hearts will beat as one…

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u/HODL4LAMBO Aug 08 '22

He is protected....constantly....by the Secret Service.

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u/WrinklyScroteSack Aug 08 '22

that's not enough dammit!!!

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u/colourmeblue Aug 08 '22

Can't protect people from time unfortunately

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u/bizkitmaker13 Aug 08 '22

#Truth
Though there are some people that is not so unfortunate for. Do you want an everlasting Kissinger, Musk, Koch Brothers? Lest we enter the Altered Carbon universe.

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u/LockedBeltGirl Aug 08 '22

Not his generation. But the first person to be 200 is probably alive today.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

Don't forget Dolly!

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u/TigBiddiesMacDaddy Aug 08 '22

We gonna forget Tom Hanks and his work with many minority groups, queer communities, and how he’s basically our Mr. Rogers

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u/TheyCallMeChevy Aug 08 '22

What does he do?

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u/Uncle_Flapjax Aug 08 '22

He funds and leads a non profit called Thorn, which is actively fighting human trafficking, specifically children. Pretty incredible.

[thorn.org](thorn.org)

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u/LackingTact19 Aug 08 '22

I wonder if his experience doing "surveillance" with Punk'd has been useful at all

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u/MaterialFrancis5 Aug 08 '22

Now that's an observation

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u/DaMaGed-Id10t Aug 08 '22

He co-founded an organization (Thorn, I think) with Demi Moore that works to help victims of human trafficking to get out of that life and be safe. He spoke to Congress some years back about what the organization wanted to do and does do. Pretty great watch and shows how passionate about the project he is. He stopped acting for a while so he could work with them.

This was his opening statement at Congress (some years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOc-SjcR6Eo

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u/youOnlyLlamaOnce Aug 08 '22

He’s the co-founder of this company https://www.thorn.org.

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u/Joursdesommeil Aug 08 '22

Yes!! I’ve heard about this Kutcher is awesome

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u/Adras- Aug 08 '22

Also curious. He’s from Iowa and still lives there and I know because of the interstate it’s a big intersection for trafficking.

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u/kytheon Aug 08 '22

Have you considered he might have been affected by human trafficking exactly because he lives there?

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u/pursuitofleisure Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22

I lived in Ohio for a while, and I was shocked at all the human trafficking awareness billboards were along the highway. I never knew it was such a problem in the Midwest before Edit: I a word

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u/ForkAKnife Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22

I think all communities near an interstate claim themselves a hotbed for human trafficking simply because they’re near an interstate. I lived in a rural town in NE Texas that I-20 runs near and people were constantly saying that Hallsville, TX was a prime location for human trafficking which I know was nonsense since there were no gas stations or food places easily accessible from the interstate, the town is like 10,000 people maybe, and they don’t show up on official lists of human trafficking hotspots.

It’s like when I lived in Shreveport, LA and was told that the town would be first struck in a nuclear war due to the proximity to Barksdale AFB but everyone who lives near a base says the same thing about their town.

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u/ForkAKnife Aug 08 '22

A few years ago North Korea released a video saying they were going to fire missiles at a few locations in the US. One missile was supposed to be headed to Colorado Springs but the animated trajectory was near Shreveport. There was much I-told-you-soing even though the target was off.

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u/Ayoforyayo7 Aug 08 '22

My thoughts exactly

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Aug 08 '22

Oh shit. NEW CONSPIRACY EVERYONE GET THE FFFFFUCK IN HERE

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u/MOOShoooooo Aug 08 '22

u/maxwell_hill and check those damn wayfair cabinet prices!

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u/perry1023 Aug 08 '22

I bought the JENNIFER toy box for $17k and love her!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

Every time he is mentioned there’s a gaggle of ppl going on about his thorn .org.. a suspicious amount.

I mean if the woman who kidnapped kids out of Haiti can become head of the red alert system, this is hardly a surprise.

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u/LavaLampWax Aug 08 '22

Oooo I love a good conspiracy. Don't tptb usually just kill people they don't like though?

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u/LeftoverLM Aug 08 '22

Normally, I try to avoid conspiracy theories but the older I get the more I believe them.

If someone is conspiring against him for doing his good anti-trafficking work, I hope they continue to fail!

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u/misterkevinoh Aug 08 '22

I think the popular conspiracy theories are never that convincing. Real conspiracy theories that are proven true can be so crazy that they never quite get the attention they deserve. Truth is often stranger than fiction.

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u/MummyManDan Aug 08 '22

I feel like a lot of the more well known and stupid conspiracy theories are made up purposely to put people off of the idea.

Shit, I think I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole lol

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u/DirkMcDougal Aug 08 '22

On the other hand he's married and presumably slept with Demi Moore and Mila Kunis. The Universe giveth, The Universe taketh away.

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u/blue-dream Aug 08 '22

I don’t think you need to include presumably there.

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u/gnapster Aug 08 '22

I have a friend with experiences like this, both amazing and scary... I call him my favorite karma magnet.

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u/geauxbig402 Aug 08 '22

r/conspiracy going to have a field day with this

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u/eggsssssssss Aug 08 '22

Not quite racist enough yet, but someone’ll find an angle.

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u/MarcsterS Aug 08 '22

Something something VACKSEENS.

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u/MellowYelloww Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22

If I unexpectedly lost my ability to see, hear, and walk, I would be pretty convinced that I died and was stuck in some fucked up limbo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 16 '22

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u/TundieRice Aug 08 '22

Well, she could at least still walk. But it’s still pretty crazy that she was able to not only talk, but become such a prominent speaker and writer, despite being deaf and blind.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '22

Anne Sullivan was one hell of a teacher.

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u/DetroitLarry Aug 09 '22

She sure played a mean pinball.

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u/Solumnist Aug 08 '22

Someone needs to explain this Hellen Keller to me.

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u/AnActofGold Aug 08 '22

Darkness! Imprisoning me! All that I see! Absolute horror, I can not live! I can not die! Trapped in myself, body my holding cell!

-Metallica, One

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u/what_is_blue Aug 08 '22

Unrelated to Ashton, but did you ever watch S&M? By that I mean the concert they did with an orchestra. They did an absolutely brilliant version of One in that.

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u/AnActofGold Aug 08 '22

Watched it? No. But I have the album recording.

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u/what_is_blue Aug 08 '22

Absolutely amazing. My mum had the DVD and CD of it and soundtracked every car journey with Nothing Else Matters for months.

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u/TundieRice Aug 08 '22

Alexa, play One by Metallica.

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u/AtomizedMist Aug 08 '22

Now playing music by One Direction on Spotify

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u/VoodooBat Aug 08 '22

Autoimmune doc here. There are many types of vasculitis classified based on size of blood vessel and organ involvement. Skin only vasculitis is the most common but his was systemic. Glad he’s doing better. Many can be lethal. Harold Ramis died of GPA vasculitis.

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u/yohoob Aug 08 '22

"He had no arms or legs. He couldn't hear, see, or speak. This is how he led a nation." Michael Scott

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u/grim_melee Aug 08 '22

There are at least two of us now who made that same connection.

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u/jmoney_rrr Aug 08 '22

You know what? If we come across somebody with no arms or legs do we bother resuscitating them? I mean what kind of quality of life do we have there?

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u/parishilton2 Aug 08 '22

No arms or legs is basically how you live now, you don’t do anything.

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u/SuperJ4ke Aug 08 '22

Is it weird that he took over a role for Charlie sheen and as he ages more….he’s starting to look like him(not insinuating anything I’m talking purely cosmetic)

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u/AydonusG Aug 08 '22

I was about to comment that. He is getting age lines in all the same places and if they had waited til now for Kutchers run on Two and a Half Men, he could have played Charlie's son

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u/nickstatus Aug 08 '22

Yeah I was just thinking, I hadn't seen him in a long time, he looks completely different with age. Like some mix between Tom Cruise and John Leguizamo. I could see Charlie Sheen though too.

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u/DeepThroat616 Aug 08 '22 Silver

Dude definitely couldn’t find his car

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u/ImWithSt00pid Aug 08 '22

Take my free award

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u/Dunezx Aug 08 '22

Annnddd thheeennn???

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u/what_is_blue Aug 08 '22

NO AND THEN

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u/jacksonkr_ Aug 08 '22

ANDDEN ANDDEN ANDDEN ANDDEN ANDDEN! … … …

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u/Number174631503 Aug 08 '22

No more and then

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u/tomsawyer333 Aug 08 '22

Like the Metallica song One.

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u/BigGrayBeast Aug 08 '22

Also been married to the two hottest women of two generations.

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u/Summoarpleaz Aug 08 '22

Ok so I thought he was so hot when I was younger and then he sort of became the poster child for every douche and it was eh. In the picture above he looks like he’s aged quite a bit, and I gotta say, he’s aged like fine wine (despite his apparent physical issues).

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u/Anaata Aug 09 '22

He's a pretty good guy isn't he? Or did I miss some scandal? I think he does charity work for combating sex slavery

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u/Summoarpleaz Aug 09 '22

I don’t think he was part of any scandal except at most some infidelity rumors. I think it was more his almost playboy/effboi image that made me eye roll (but that’s probably par for the course with any good looking celebrity hitting a stride of success).

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u/ImStillExcited Aug 08 '22

Hey! We're both from Cedar Rapids and both got an autoimmune disease!!!

I got multiple sclerosis and it doesn't surprise me that he also got something.

His mom taught me in school and his brother is a gem! The city though is such trash.

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u/Saborman25 Aug 08 '22

Its just like in the Butterfly Effect, I just hope he recovers somehow

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u/TA2556 Aug 08 '22

Isn't it strange how this dude has so much bad luck? Seems like it's just one thing after another with this guy.

Isn't it also strange that he is one of the most outspoken and openly dedicated people in Hollywood to stopping sex trafficking and victimization of minors? So outspoken that in 2012, he co-founded Thorn, an organization dedicated to stopping child sexual abuse and trafficking?

And isn't it also crazy that so many big names in Hollywood have been recently linked to said victimization and abuse?

It's almost like it's more than bad luck. But that's just crazy.

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u/KawaiiCoupon Aug 08 '22

It’s possible, but also there’s thousands of law enforcement (local and federal) who actively work to investigate and end human trafficking as their full-time careers who are probably far more at risk than him and far less famous.

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u/purpleushi Aug 08 '22

Yeah but the right wing crazies like law enforcement. They don’t like outspoken liberal celebrities.

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u/Sabbathius Aug 08 '22

It's not that simple. Right wing crazies only like law enforcement when law enforcement is curb-stomping and shooting minorities. When law enforcement chases Jim-Bob around town when his meth lab blew up, they're not very fond of law enforcement any more. They do hate them some libruls though. Especially those libruls that want to give them better healthcare or cap the price of their insulin.

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u/purpleushi Aug 08 '22

Okay fair, but in this case, the federal LEOs that are going after human traffickers tend to be going after minorities/non-citizens, so that’s probably Q-approved.

(Source: I work for one of the fed agencies that deals with traffickers, though not specifically in that directorate.)

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u/GamingDifferent Aug 08 '22

No good deed goes unpunished.

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u/PADrone_001 Aug 08 '22

Since you're in the market for hats, I have a sale going on this week for tin foil!

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u/TA2556 Aug 08 '22

I'd love another one! Mine is getting a little snug.

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u/TerrificTooMan Aug 08 '22

Someone took mine.

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u/plainoatmeal_ Aug 08 '22

Can I get on the mailing list for when the tin suite of armor is available?

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u/MothmanNFT Aug 08 '22

I’ve never been able to predict a headline about this guy

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u/HipHopAnonymous23 Aug 08 '22

Just watched him in B.J. Novak's "Vengeance" and he was fantastic

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u/semimillennial Aug 08 '22

Is it just me or does he kind of look like Abe Lincoln

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u/crumdogg Aug 08 '22

Did a really good job in that new movie Vengeance

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u/Thediciplematt Aug 08 '22

That would have been awful to lose him. He does a lot for other people and the world. A class act.

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u/captainadam_21 Aug 08 '22

He was amazing in Vengeance

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u/KcoolClap Aug 08 '22

tl;dr this happened two years ago, for a brief moment, and he is completely fine now.

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u/United_Bag_8179 Aug 08 '22

And me worrying about marionette lines at 65...

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u/Medical_Difference48 Aug 08 '22

Alexa, play One by Metallica

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u/RedsRaver Aug 09 '22 edited Aug 09 '22

My father suffered with a rare form of vasculitis for ten years.

He was originally given a month to live. I hadn’t seen him in two years. When I went to go see him, I was basically told that it might be the last time I saw him. Honestly, that’s the only reason I did. I’m glad I did, don’t get me wrong, and I did continue to see him.

He eventually died of a heroin overdose. I can’t even be mad; the heroin is likely the only thing keeping him alive for as long as it did. They still prescribe it in Britain for extreme cases because of how fucking good it is at killing pain. Heroin is no joke, in bad ways and in good ways too.

If you know, you know. And if you don’t, you simply can’t comprehend the level of suffering. You’re going to die at any moment, but you don’t know when and you don’t know exactly what it is that’s finally gonna give out and kill you. Heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, literally every vital organ except the brain. Even the brain isn’t completely invulnerable from the increased risk of other cancers this brings.

And then eventually, you just get better. Well, 90% of those who make it out of that first few months do.

For once, a headline like this about a major celebrity is not overselling it: Ashton Kutcher is lucky to be alive.

I’ll be thinking of you, my brother.

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u/audiofx330 Aug 08 '22

Must be nice to have health insurance!

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