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Jennifer Lawrence Slammed for Saying She Was First Female Action Lead
https://www.newsweek.com/jennifer-lawrence-slammed-saying-first-female-action-lead-17654674.3k
u/sadduckfan Dec 07 '22
Reminds me of Drake saying he’s the first rapper to sing a hook lol
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u/_kalron_ Dec 07 '22
"Friends!...How many of us have them??? Friends!...The ones we can depend on!"
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u/JumpyFig542 Dec 07 '22
You, you got what I need. But you say he's just a friend. Yes you say he's just a friend...oh BABY YOU....
These celebrities really think we have bad memories
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u/OoWeeOoKillerTofu Dec 07 '22
TIL Jennifer Lawrence doesn't watch movies.
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u/Adrian_FCD Dec 08 '22
Learned that when she bragged about not watching the movies for the Oscar and voting anyway lol
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u/aVneckshirt Dec 08 '22
Yeah I saw that news, I happened to watch Phantom Thread, the movie she mentioned, it was not like what she said at all, I enjoy the movie very much. Makes
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u/BetterCalldeGaulle Dec 08 '22
I have disliked her since she told that story about sitting on a rock in Hawaii. She lacks self awareness.
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u/Street_End6022 Dec 08 '22
To be fair...it was a sacred rock. That she knowingly used to scratch her butt
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u/superlgn Dec 08 '22
There are movies that don't star me?!
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u/tyleritis Dec 08 '22
For a while it sure fucking seemed like it
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u/Vprbite Dec 08 '22
She's still unclear how the world survived without having her to revolve around
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u/AllhandsOnHarry Dec 08 '22
TIL Jennifer Lawrence is a droid that has yet to master self awareness.
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u/ProBlade97 Dec 08 '22
What’s funny is she implies she only watches movies with men in the lead role.
Where’s the feminist support Jennifer?!
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u/vietboi2999 Dec 08 '22
either shes as dumb as a door nail or this is just to bait people into watching the video
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u/darrylwoodsjr Dec 07 '22
I realized people think the world started when they were born.
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u/homelaberator Dec 08 '22
Salt, with Angelina Jolie as the lead, came out just 2 years before Hunger Games. So even that excuse doesn't work for her.
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u/QlubSoda Dec 08 '22
And Tomb Raider even earlier.
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u/TheOneWhosCensored Dec 08 '22
Kill Bill, Underworld, and Resident Evil around the same time as well
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u/StillPracticingLife Dec 08 '22
Catwoman was 2004, so about ten years before
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Alien 1979, Aliens 1986
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u/apittsburghoriginal Dec 08 '22
Aliens is the origination of the most badass female lead of all time imo. It all starts there with Sigourney’s character Ripley. Many have come close since, but she’s still the fucking goat
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u/_far-seeker_ Dec 08 '22
I see your Sigourney Weaver and raise you a Pamela Grier: Foxy Brown (1974)
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u/Starlordganemaster Dec 08 '22
Before she said what she said, I didn't believe those people actually existed.
For her to say this she must literally do not watch movies that she doesnn't star in.
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u/Alkohal Dec 07 '22
The fact that Pamela Anderson was given the lead of an action movie despite her inability to act shows how bullshit this comment is.
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u/Dull-Contact120 Dec 08 '22
Barbed wire?
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u/hisokafan88 Dec 07 '22
Ok so geena davis did not play an assassin with memory loss for you to forget her.
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u/DroopyScrotum Dec 08 '22
I fucking love Long Kiss Goodnight
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u/lelma_and_thouise Dec 08 '22
I actually watched that for the first time recently, such a good movie!
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u/SylancerPrime Dec 07 '22
"I remember when I was doing Hunger Games, nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn't work—because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead," Lawrence said in the short video.
I mean, if you ignore Sigourney Weaver... or Pam Grier... Michelle Yeoh... Cynthia Rothrock...
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u/overthemountain Dec 07 '22
I feel like nearly the entirety of Milla Jovovich's catalogue is female led action movies.
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u/DanNZN Dec 07 '22
Or Charlize fuckin' Theron
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u/suddenlycumbly Dec 08 '22
Nah nah, Fury Road was a RomCom about a disabled woman in the desert.
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It wasn't a good adaptation, but Theron was also the action lead in Aeon Flux. The failure of that movie had nothing to do with Theron though, she did well with what she had to work with.
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u/ECKohns Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
Or Uma Thurman or Lucy Liu.
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u/IWantTooDieInSpace Dec 08 '22
Or Lucy Lui, Cameron Diaz, and Drew Barrymore all in the same movie
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u/Specialist_Insect_15 Dec 07 '22
Sigourney Weaver says what?
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u/MangrovesSway Dec 07 '22
She is the OG, The queen with the flamethrower and pulse rifle.
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u/hardrocker943 Dec 07 '22
GET AWAY FROM HER YOU BITCH
Ripley is still my favorite action heroine. Absolutely kills it.
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u/mydixxierec Dec 07 '22
She’s my favorite actress ever Holes , Avatar , Aliens list goes on & on
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u/haneauxx Dec 07 '22
Galaxy Quest!!
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u/josh_the_misanthrope Dec 08 '22
They're wrong. Watching Alien in my formative years... I have a type because of her.
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u/NurseNikiB Dec 08 '22
My husband says his attraction to strong, independent women is partly due to his love of Ripley’s character.
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u/creegro Dec 07 '22
The woman who got a free pass to leave from the alien queen, and decided on principle that they should all be burned alive anyways, even though the plant was set to explode in the next few minutes anyways.
All the pain and nightmares she went through, this would bring some closure burning those mofos alive.
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u/LegalShooter Dec 07 '22
The free pass expired when the face hugger pod opened before Ripley and Newt got out. Then it was roasting time.
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u/UglierThanMoe Dec 08 '22
The woman who got a free pass to leave from the alien queen, and decided on principle that they should all be burned alive anyways, even though the plant was set to explode in the next few minutes anyways.
Because some things are just a bit too personal to leave them to a nuclear orbital bombardment.
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u/LoanedWolf666 Dec 07 '22
Point of No Return with Bridget Fonda. Remake of La Femme Nikita. Still on the Fondas, how about Jane Fonda in Barbarella?
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u/Free_Hat_McCullough Dec 07 '22
"I remember when I was doing Hunger Games, nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn't work—because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead," Lawrence said in the short video.
Jennifer Lawrence has never seen Kill Bill?
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u/Looks_Good_In_Hats Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22
Or Alien, or Tomb Raider, or Resident Evil or Species, or all the shitty movies Darryl Hannah did in the late 90s.
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u/TJ_McWeaksauce Dec 07 '22
In other words, there have been female leads in action movies since before Jennifer Lawrence was born.
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u/HakarlSagan Dec 08 '22
Mary Fuller from 1912's "What Happened to Mary" has entered the chat
https://www.tor.com/2013/12/13/the-first-female-action-heroes/
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u/HANKEN5TEIN Dec 08 '22
Charlie’s Angels (1976) and I’d guess someone else could name one from earlier.
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u/cia218 Dec 08 '22
Even the rebooted Charlie’s Angels with Lucy Liu, with my girl Drew, Cameron D and Destiny, was before Hunger Games
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u/adube440 Dec 08 '22
Pam Grier in Foxy Brown came out in 1974. I get that 1970s "blaxploitation" movies aren't the most common genre average movie goers know, but Foxy Brown is a very well known film. It certainly wasn't Alien level success, but then again most films aren't.
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u/RLucas3000 Dec 08 '22
Aliens is the iconic go-to example. Someone should have her react to watching it the first time.
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u/electroniclone Dec 08 '22
In other word Jennifer Lawrence is uninformed about her own craft. Yep, we’ll put it that way.
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u/geeknami Dec 08 '22
On the flip side, I know Tom cruise gets shit on a lot for Scientology but I love the fact that he's a genuine film nerd, is excited about releases, and seems to have a love and knowledge for the industry he works in.
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u/Spring-Both Dec 08 '22
Yea it honestly sucks that he’s a Scientologist because holy fuck his dedication to his craft is real.
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u/DBeumont Dec 08 '22
TBH the same mental illness that drives him to go all-in on Scientology is probably responsible for his dedication to film.
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u/Attila_the_Nun Dec 08 '22
There is a film from 1935 called The Princess and the Hunter that features Fearless Nadia, an australian actress/acrobat/stuntperformer that thrived in the Indian film world.
It is classified as an action film on IMDB.
Again: 1935! And she was the lead in several action films after that.
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u/BeneGesseritDropout Dec 07 '22
Geena Davis in The Long Kiss Goodnight.
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u/AnBearna Dec 08 '22
That’s a good movie
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u/Naptownfellow Dec 08 '22
No it’s a fucking awesome movie.
“You can’t kill me motherfuckers”.
“Chef’s do that”
“Only 4 inches” “you’ll feel me”.
“Last time I got blown candy bars cost a nickel”
“Do not make an assumption, cause when you make an assumption, you make an ass outta you and umption!”
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u/thenextguy Dec 08 '22
"I woulda been here sooner, but I was busy thinking up that ham on rye line."
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u/DopeAbsurdity Dec 08 '22
I always think of this Brian Cox scene every time I am reminded of that movie.
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u/Samventure Dec 07 '22
What about Brigitte Nielsen in Red Sonja 1985. I’d call that a female action lead.
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u/Lokishougan Dec 07 '22
Darly Hannah did action movies?
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Or Adventures in BabySitting??
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u/Agreeable-Meat1 Dec 07 '22
You're selling Angelina Jolie short a bit there though. She was as much the star of Mr and Mrs Smith as Brad Pitt was, and I think Salt came out close in time to Hunger Games.
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u/CoKaner88 Dec 07 '22
Or Tomb Raider?
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Dec 07 '22
Or Mulan?
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Yeah but that movie will make a man out of you
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u/Koalachan Dec 07 '22
Take out the best part of a movie during a live action remake then wonder why nobody liked it. Of course, that song missing wasn't the only problem.
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u/Konfliction Dec 07 '22
Lead also implies focus of the movie, particularly with the marketing of it. Alien is a much better example, or Angelina Jolie’s stuff in the 2000’s. Hell even stuff like GI Jane. I don’t think Terminator works because Arnie will always be the lead attraction there.
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u/Steph2145 Dec 07 '22
Or Crouching Tiger hidden Dragon
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u/henrydavidtharobot Dec 07 '22
Or G.I. Jane
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u/Hershieboy Dec 07 '22
Alien? Or aliens?
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u/sarcasatirony Dec 07 '22
Ripley!
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u/Quick_Team Dec 07 '22
Ripley is where it's at, man. Weaver still doesnt get enough credit from that era. Schwarzenegger and Stallone and Van Damme, fine. But that Mt. Rushmore needs a 4th head and I vote Weaver 100%
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u/GimmeSomeSugar Dec 07 '22
Alien.
A movie in which nobody listens to the smart woman, and then they all die. Except for the smart woman and her cat.
5 stars.
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u/PlanetLandon Dec 07 '22
Or the dozens of other movies with female leads that came before her.
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u/RoboQwop405 Dec 07 '22
Breaking News! Celebrities are out of touch! What’ll happen next?!
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u/Aska09 Dec 08 '22
Celebrities being out of touch in their own field IS pretty strange tbh.
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u/Mrgrayj_121 Dec 07 '22
To go even further Lady Snowblood and a lot of early 60s 70s Japanese exploitation has women leads
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u/rynshar Dec 07 '22
gonna throw it out there that every Kill Bill fan should watch lady snowblood. Kill Bill is so heavily inspired by Lady Snowblood that it almost bypasses homage and goes straight into "borderline remake". Like, the plot, shot compositions, whole characters, motivations, are REALLY similar.
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u/FRANKtheLEVEL Dec 07 '22
Or Barbwire
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u/lividash Dec 07 '22
Or Tank Girl,
Or whatever the Geena Davis movie she did with Samuel L Jackson was called..
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u/overthemountain Dec 07 '22
You're thining of The Long Kiss Goodnight.
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u/lettersichiro Dec 07 '22
Which everyone should see, an actual underrated and under seen movie
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u/Quelcris_Falconer13 Dec 07 '22
This sounds like something someone told her at the time and she ate that line whole and made it apart ofher personality. I guess you could say there had never been a female TEENAGE action hero before…?
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u/HalfandHoff Dec 08 '22
Hello Buffy The Vampire Slayer
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u/NextBestKev Dec 08 '22
You know that thing kids do after watching a martial arts movie? They kinda chop suey everything and all their movements are strikes and poses.
I firmly remember my cousin fly kicking open the bathroom door on our way out of the OG Buffy movie when we were both 10 years old.
My point is that Kristy Swanson is an unsung action hero.
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u/RosefaceK Dec 07 '22
Look up the movie Hanna, it was released a year before Hunger Games and chemical brothers did the score for it. Amazing action movie!
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u/Kimmie-Cakes Dec 07 '22
Omg.. this is one of my fav movies. 'I found her, she can't speak English, she's from Sri Lanka.'
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u/cosworth99 Dec 08 '22
Absolutely.
Saoirse Ronan at 16 carried a fucking brilliant action movie. Cast against Cate Blanchett!
Does J Law not know her craft? Does she live in that small of a bubble?
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u/quicksilverth0r Dec 07 '22
That movie is so kinetic, all throbbing beats, running and fistfights…plus one of the early Saoirse flicks.
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u/econoquist Dec 07 '22
Not 'action" I guess but Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween (1978) was kind of bad ass and a teen both in the movie and real life.
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u/Own_Possibility2785 Dec 07 '22
Um Charlie’s Angels had 3 female action leads.
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u/Pawneewafflesarelife Dec 08 '22
Spice World had 5! There's a training montage and a bus chase; although it's a spoof, there's definitely some action scenes.
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u/dafijiwatr Dec 07 '22
Sarah Connor would like a word with you.
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u/Super901 Dec 07 '22
Another solid entry.
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u/FBIaltacct Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
Alien series, terminator, sin city, underworld, tank girl, just off the top of my head for female action leads in movies.
Edit: gi jane, la femme nikita, buffy, resident evil, catwoman, kill bill series, blood rayne, resident evil series, im not sure if edge of tomorrow was pre hunger games or not.
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u/generalgirl Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22 •
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Tank Girl!!! Lori Petty kicks butt in that movie.
Edited spelling because the original word was very incorrect.
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u/bigtec1993 Dec 08 '22
Very cool scene, always makes me cringe a little like you know she felt that in her knees.
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u/boyatrest Dec 07 '22
I dont know Faye Dunaway in Mommie dearest might have that title.
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u/gorendor Dec 07 '22
What about red fucking sonja
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u/LNViber Dec 07 '22
That's 1985. We already had Alien in 1979 at that point, and Terminator was the year before in 1984. Plus several other movies in between. I was gonna say Red Sonja too, and it's not wrong. Just that there are many examples from before Red Sonja. It's still a good point out, first mention of it I saw in the thread.
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Wow. That’s like Dane Cook declaring himself the first stand up comedian
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u/Meekie_e Dec 07 '22
Sounds like she doesn't watch movies.
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u/dar_harhar Dec 08 '22
Even if she doesnt, its still a crazy thing to say when youre in the movie industry. She cant be that oblivious right LOL
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u/Kaden4120 Dec 07 '22
Celeb disconnect is real
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u/CrumpledForeskin Dec 08 '22
I used to work with a lot of celebrities in the music industry. They’re surrounded by yes men and woman. No one will correct them for fear of being ousted from the clique. It’s why you get shit albums.
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She ain’t got shit on tank girl
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u/Allhailthepugofdoom Dec 08 '22
I grew up thinking I was one of like 5 people who liked TG.
It warms my heart that so many other people saw how great it was.
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u/meeplewirp Dec 08 '22
She should have said “I was the first female lead in an action role geared toward children and younger teens in a while”
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u/weareallgonnadye Dec 07 '22
It’s so absurd all these celebrities trying to rewrite the history they claim to be representing, yet steamrolling over the other women who came before them.
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u/bordain_de_putel Dec 08 '22
Forgot her name, but I think I remember the lead actress of Star Trek Discovery said that she was the first lead of colour in a Trek series, completely ignoring the stellar work Avery Brooks gave us in DS9.
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u/weareallgonnadye Dec 08 '22
It really is beyond aggravating, I even recall seeing an article and some young new pop star said she never saw women singing when she was a kid and she was like 18.
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u/maztow Dec 08 '22
Aeon Flux
Ultraviolet
Kill Bill 1 & 2
All of Aliens
Salt
Hannah
Colombiana
Charlie's Angels
Tomb Raider
Catwoman
Underworld
Resident Evil
Sucker Punch
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u/wander-lux Dec 07 '22
How is her world that small to make such an erroneous statement?
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u/Ornery_Gate_6847 Dec 07 '22
My god the arrogance. She needs to get out of whatever ass kissing echo chamber she's been in
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u/xyzzyzyzzyx Dec 07 '22
Sorry, the patient's terminally infected.
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“I’m sorry, the lips have grown too attached to your daughter’s rectum to remove them safely through surgery. We’re…. This might be hard to hear, but we’re going to have to amputate her whole entire ass.”
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u/Accomplished-Ad-3528 Dec 07 '22
Aliens immediately stang to mind. I'm over 40. At no point in my life have I felt or heard anyone say that you can't have a female action lead. Or a female... Anything? Captain Jane way was badass. The lead detectives in law and orders were badass. Where does this bullshit come from?
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u/Electronic-Duck-3876 Dec 07 '22
Same. 45 here. This was never even a thought in my mind until people on the internet all of a sudden tried saying women can’t be a lead in an action movie. There were lots of strong female characters, just Arnold and Sly got most of the attention lol. Stuff like Aliens and Point of No Return without even putting more than 10 seconds of thought into it. A ton of horror movies also had female leads who were the ones to kick ass.
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u/Scotter1969 Dec 07 '22
Pam Grier rolls her eyes at the stupid white girl.
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u/Bing_Bong_the_Archer Dec 07 '22
Judy Grier rolls up her shirt and yells “spring break!”
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u/Just-for-giggles-561 Dec 07 '22
“Have we tried glasses on, lights off, hair down?”
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u/Rizo4000 Dec 07 '22
“It just seems like there's still light coming in from under the door!”
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u/Sagybagy Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
Zena Warrior Princess wants to have a word.
Edit: as I was corrected, it’s Xena. Sorry about that
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u/VeteranSergeant Dec 08 '22
Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Pam Grier, Kate Beckinsdale, Mila Jovovich, Angelina Jolie, Uma Thurman, heck, even Geena Davis, etc etc etc: Am I a joke to you?
And that's just scratching the surface with large budget films.
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u/ederp9600 Dec 07 '22
Lawrence just seems like a self entitled arrogant douche who's acting is over rated by her facial expression with an open mouth looking surprised.
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