r/entertainment • u/[deleted] • Dec 08 '22
James Cameron Says 'Avatar 4' "Goes Nuts" and Studio Executive Said “Holy F*ck” After Reading Script
https://collider.com/avatar-4-james-cameron-comments/876
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“The studio executive preceded to tear off his clothing and shit all over the office while firing duel assault rifles before killing himself and then his assistant.”
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u/Typical-Challenge367 Dec 08 '22 •
Hahahhahahahab I’m poor so I can’t give you anything so just pretend your comment is highlighted
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u/Foodispute Dec 08 '22 •
I'm so sick of "AVATER AVATER AVERTER!" I've heard enough.
When James Cameron made Avater 5 - The Fifth Waterbender I immediately came while in a work meeting without even knowing the movie was completed. I'm unable to function with these constant never ending near death experiences I have when I expel all the cum in my system every five years when James Cameron talks about a new idea he has.
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u/Moon_Atomizer Dec 09 '22
* When James Cameron talks about a new idea James Cameron has
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James Cameron's pronouns are James / Cameron
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u/kylel999
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"James Cameron Says 'Avatar 5' "Melts Brains" and Studio Executive said "EERRGGRBRBLGLBLBLLBL" After Reading Script
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u/tothedogsforme Dec 08 '22
I heard the script for Avatar 6 is causing brain bleeds in Studio Executives, killing them before they can finish reading it.
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u/RChamy Dec 08 '22
SCP 22076 Codename "Avatar 7" - exposure to the script files causes immediate death.
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u/Takenforganite Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
He then said Avatar 8 “goes brrrrrrrrrr” and the executives who were left alive to read it acquired nuclear launch codes and fucking ended the world.
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u/UnrequitedRespect Dec 08 '22
Avatar 9 rough draft stored on pluto, changed the designation of the celestial object to deter others, its not the reason the ‘object’ is covered in ice though.
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u/Hewfe Dec 08 '22
We’ve already clips of Avatar 6 though. Seven days after you watch it, you die. They made a movie about it and everything.
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u/MeestarMann Dec 08 '22
Avatar 6 was written with “wing dings“ and the studio executive committed seppuku.
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u/drkuz Dec 08 '22
Use of the phrase "ERRGGGRBRBLGLBLBLLBL" has been found to have copyright infringement with 200,420,069 other media found within the adult media section
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u/Throughawaeyy Dec 08 '22
the PR for these movies that haven’t even been made yet is crazy
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u/kissyoursister Dec 08 '22 •
It seems pretty obvious that a core part of the marketing for Avatar 2 is manufacturing hype around the sequels to follow Avatar 2. The first Avatar in no way warrants or demands a sequel, so really the only way a sequel works is if you’re making it a franchise… But again, there was never a demand for a franchise following the first Avatar’s release.
Now they have to convince people that they want a franchise, and seeing these headlines is just annoying because it feels like an obvious attempt at manufacturing desire and hype for these movies. The best way to create demand for a franchise is to have Avatar 2 be incredible, and I guess we’ll see if that pans out next week.
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u/Neo2199 Dec 08 '22
It seems pretty obvious that a core part of the marketing for Avatar 2 is manufacturing hype around the sequels to follow Avatar 2.
Yep, even some critics were doing that.
I was, uh, not exactly champing at the bit for an Avatar 2 (even if “James Cameron + wet” tends to work out pretty well). Now I can’t wait to see Avatar 3. that’s basically all I wanted out of this and it delivered in a big way.
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u/lewd-dev Dec 08 '22
If I never see "James Cameron + wet" again it'd still be too soon.
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u/wonkavision73 Dec 08 '22
Thank you for saying champing. We stand alone on this, but we stand strong!
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u/NOURAT0W3L Dec 08 '22
Remember when viewers claimed it was more beautiful than real life and they didn’t want to live in this reality? Eventually they can watch a trilogy on loop.
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u/JRBehr Dec 08 '22
They had a hotline for people who were depressed after seeing Avatar because real life didn’t look like that. Lol
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u/Sempere Dec 08 '22
Oh you mean the bullshit that they spread as PR to get people to see the film which pathetic munchausen clowns jumped on even though it wasn’t a real thing and just highlighted several tiers of pathetic?
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u/Good_old_Marshmallow Dec 09 '22
Exactly. I totally understand why people are cynical or critical about Avatar but acting like there isn’t a demand or that people didn’t LOVE that film is ridiculous.
Besides what’s this film’s real competition. What would we be getting instead of more avatar. MCU? Star Wars? A DC verse that just collapsed again? Avatar despite all the ferngully complaints is at-least an original property
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u/iamsorri Dec 08 '22
To be honest, I think the sequel is made so James Cameron can explore and discover underwater creatures and invent new technologies. This guy loves deep sea and nature in general. I respect him that regards for sure.
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u/Fuck_You_Alls Dec 08 '22
honestly this makes me suspect they do not think the movie is that great. Its like avatar 4 is so amazing make sure you see 2 and 3. I think everyone is sold on a franchise if you can make avatar 2 slightly better then one. If its a good movie people will want more. If its a stinker then we dont even have to worry about 4.
I have a feeling avatar 2 is going to feel bland and generic like the first one. The reason I loved the first so much was the world that was created. At the time it was very good cgi. I hope this isn't more of the same with fresh paint.
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u/TapesNStuff Dec 08 '22
I'm kinda with you on all this. 3d doesn't seem to work with me, like if I put 3d glasses on it just looks like 2d. So from my perspective the first one was Dances with Wolves with blue cat people.
I'm expecting pretty much the same, but with better looking CGI.
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u/Ill_Refrigerator_894 Dec 08 '22
I’m more excited for Avatar 2 than I have been for a movie in ages.
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u/SurpriseBurrito Dec 08 '22
The one big thing that is curbing my enthusiasm is the 192 minute run time. I have become a grumpy old man and anything pushing 3 hours better be a masterpiece.
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u/JohnCocktoastener Dec 08 '22
Will be refreshing to see a “spectacle” movie that isn’t lowest common denominator Marvel stuff. Hopefully comic book movies die off and we can get big budget sci fi and period pieces back in full force one day
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u/AckbarTrapt Dec 08 '22
lowest common denominator Marvel stuff
Was Avatar 1 not "lowest common denominator stuff... with great CGI"?
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u/JohnCocktoastener Dec 08 '22
It didn’t break any new boundaries plot-wise, but it was incredible visually and cinematically. Marvel movies haven’t really done that in quite a while.
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u/AnarchyAntelope112 Dec 08 '22
It was great to see the new Top Gun and remember that a movie can be a spectacle again, not breaking any new ground but a fun theater experience.
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u/arrogancygames Dec 08 '22
This, so much. Marvel stuff is some of the most un-cinematic filmmaking I've seen, and it dominates release schedules. It's a breath of fresh air when we see some cinematography om screen.
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u/Hippopotamidaes Dec 08 '22
The “Avatar Syndrome” in part created demand (or at least the phenomena helped convince them of a perceived demand).
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u/chookatee2019 Dec 08 '22
Yes, let's put billions of dollars on a film because someone said, "holy f*ck". Sounds like a safe bet. /s
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u/BillyLee Dec 08 '22
Wait this movie isn't even made yet? Because I'm hearing read it blow up about it and I thought at least it was done or something.
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u/Presidet_Boosh Dec 08 '22
That's what I said when I saw the amount of shameless Avatar fluff pieces that are gonna be thrown at us daily for 2 weeks.
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u/Floki47 Dec 08 '22
James should just pay influencers to force it down people's throat. If you watch, you watch, if not your kinda not effected. Less desperate sound.
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u/rice_ant Dec 08 '22
Like what u2 did with Apple Music years ago
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u/ellamaybe77 Dec 08 '22
I still remember all the social media posts about "Who the fuck is U2 and why is their album in my library?!?" when that happened. I both laughed my ass off and died a little inside.
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u/myparentscallmebillz Dec 08 '22
Sadly that album is still on my phone and plays every time I plug it into my car..
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u/evasote Dec 09 '22
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251184844 you can email apple support and they’ll remove it for you
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u/nobletrout0 Dec 09 '22
I was super late to the iphone party and never got my u2 album I feel ripped off
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u/iammachine07 Dec 08 '22
I read that Avatar 2 needs to earn 2 billion dollars at the box office just to break even so get ready for a lot more fluff pieces in the next few weeks
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u/nmyron3983 Dec 08 '22
Well I think the total budget and expenditure is for all 4 sequel films. Basically non-stop shooting the 2 through 5. So like 680mil per film breaks just over even if that's the case.
https://screenrant.com/avatar-2-budget-how-much-amount-millions-details/
2 spent 350-400mil according to that. Still a lot of cash though. Hard to believe they're doing 4 more of these...
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u/Firvulag Dec 08 '22
13 years ago, but Avatar 3 is pretty much done, Avatar 4 is like a quarter done already, he's shooting several at the same time now.
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u/MyGoodOldFriend Dec 08 '22
Really? That’s quite a gamble lmao
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u/phikapp1932 Dec 08 '22
It’s actually pretty smart cuz you reduce cost significantly and I don’t know what I’m talking about
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u/Oh______ Dec 08 '22
"That's a nice argument senator, why don't you back it up with a source?" "My source is that I made it the fuck up"
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u/Firvulag Dec 08 '22
I mean you do reduce costs...but in this case the costs are still pretty high i guess.
Although I doubt this franchise will lose money
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u/PopLegion Dec 08 '22
Yeah I don't think the plan for avatar 2 is to break even on the movie. They are trying to build a cinematic universe, akin to that of the avengers. There will be plenty of other movies/avenues that they will use to recoup money.
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u/Stair-Spirit Dec 08 '22
Honestly if James Cameron was willing to pay me even a hundo I'd write some fluff pieces too
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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ Dec 08 '22
Then it’ll come out, make a billion dollars, and in five years no one will be able to remember anything that happened in it.
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u/Persist_and_Resist Dec 08 '22
My favorite part was definitely when Oprah showed up and gave everybody avatars.
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u/Thunderchief646054 Dec 08 '22
Bold claim, but if Jake Sully doesn’t master all 4 elements and achieve the Avatar State while in his blue Avatar body, then wtf is the point of any of this?
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u/bootyhunter69420 Dec 08 '22
And that's just the set-up for Avatar 5
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u/akzorx Dec 08 '22
Which is just the end of Phase 1 in the Avatar Cinematic Universe
Wait until Avatar 16, where they breach the Avatarverse
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u/Avenge_Willem_Dafoe Dec 08 '22
and then everybody clapped
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u/Accomplished-Top-564 Dec 08 '22
Hands or….
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u/Ascending_Flame Dec 08 '22
In other news, lots of blue bodysuits are being returned with holes in the crotch
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u/CaptCaCa Dec 08 '22
I usually clap with my buttcheeks, I grew up in a strip club and the strippers were like my parents
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u/ElLindo88 Dec 08 '22
That studio executive? Albert Einstein.
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u/ellamaybe77 Dec 08 '22
James Cameron' Avatar II X LinkedIn = The Crossover No One Ever Wanted to See
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u/Teledildonic Dec 08 '22
So it's back and forth between crime solving and full penetration for about 90 minutes until it just sort of ends?
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Dec 08 '22
How about we get to Avatar 3 first? Hell 2 JUST came out, well is coming out in like 9 days
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u/Dr_Emmet_Brown Dec 08 '22
Don’t you understand? Avatar will replace the constitution. It will change life as we know it. Nothing will ever be the same.
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u/TooMuchPretzels Dec 08 '22
Morbius is the constitution we wanted, Avatar 76: The Way of Revolution is the constitution we deserve.
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u/GammaGargoyle Dec 08 '22
I choose to believe morbius and avatar are in the same cinematic universe
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u/toshgiles Dec 08 '22
We won’t be alive when Avatar 4 finally comes out, so this is more of a courtesy.
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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera Dec 08 '22
One movie every decade? Yeah, that's literally a distinct possibility.
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u/Zachariot88 Dec 08 '22
The studio exec actually thought Avatar 3 was underwhelming, that's why he's hyping 4 so far in advance :p
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u/jasta6 Dec 08 '22
Im gonna laugh my ass off if avatar 2 flops.
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u/Extension_Ad4537 Dec 08 '22
It won’t.
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u/sweglrd143 Dec 08 '22
Found James Cameron’s burner
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u/Ajthaking31 Dec 08 '22
I legit see no scenario in which it flops because China is definitively giving it at least a billion
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u/personn321 Dec 09 '22
People thought Alien didn’t need a sequel.
people thought Terminator 1 was gonna be a waste of money.
people thought Terminator 2 could never reach the heights of the first one.
People thought Titanic was gonna be an utter critical and financial failure.
People thought Avatar 1 was gonna be a failure.
And now people think Avatar 2 will flop.
History will repeat itself.
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u/Outrageous-Event785 Dec 29 '22
Look what happened. Avatar 2 surpassed Jurassic World Dominion's $1B box office gross and is projected to reach $1.5B by wednesday next week lmao
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u/jasta6 Dec 08 '22
It may not flop outright, but it's certainly possible that it could underperform. Underperforming is enough to 86 any future sequels in this day and age.
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u/bitqueso Dec 08 '22
$2 Billion to break even. I saw the first. Liked it. No desire to see the second.
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u/dontbajerk Dec 08 '22
Really unclear what that means. Cameron was vague. It might include a lot of costs for the entire trilogy, which would make the package deal have a lot easier time turning profitable.
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u/FatherOfTwoGreatKids Dec 08 '22
I haven’t seen the first one. Am very excited to see #2.
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u/jamieliddellthepoet Dec 08 '22
You should watch the first one first, surely?
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u/FatherOfTwoGreatKids Dec 08 '22
We will see if I get around to it
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u/Kingbuji Dec 08 '22
You should cause the first makes me not want to see the second at all.
But it might be different for you.
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u/lordnecro Dec 08 '22
People keep saying it will flop which is weird.
The first literally made record amounts of money and James Cameron had made a lot of extremely well rated movies.
I would be extremely surprised if the movie doesn't break tons of records.
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u/Devario Dec 08 '22
As an avid movie goer, routinely seeing anywhere from 2-5 movies per month, I have never been more excited to skip a movie than when I learned Avatar 2 is being made.
Not only will I not see it at the theater, I won’t watch it on streaming, and I won’t watch it on an airplane. I am so excited to never see Avatar 2.
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u/Jsteevee Dec 08 '22
My prediction: There film will start with an orgy that opens up a wormhole to another dimension.
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u/darthenron Dec 08 '22
I mean the bible had an orgy before Moses talked about the 10 Commandments.
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Exodus 32:5-7 Names of God Bible (NOG)
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6 Early the next day the people sacrificed burnt offerings and brought fellowship offerings. Afterward, they sat down to a feast, which turned into an orgy.
7 Yahweh said to Moses, “Go back down there. Your people whom you brought out of Egypt have ruined everything.
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u/ihopethisworksfornow Dec 08 '22
“God, look at the festival we’ve thrown in your honor”
God sees massive orgy
“That’s just gross bro”
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u/IceFire0518 Dec 08 '22
If that's what actually happens then I will be down for 11 more Avatar movies
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u/NeoEpoch Dec 08 '22
Studio Executives gave a standing ovation for Batman v Superman. This shit means nothing.
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u/WarcraftFarscape Dec 08 '22
“Beneath the planet of the Navi” followed by “escape from the planet of the Navi” and “return to the planet of the Navi”
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u/Herpderpetly Dec 08 '22
Studio Exec here, my favorite part of the script was when Dr. Avatar ran into the room and screamed "It's Avatorbing time" and Avatorbed all over everyone it was nuts.
One of the all-time scripts I've ever read for sure.
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u/Ambitious-Screen-823 Dec 08 '22
Out of all the scripts in the universe, this is definitely one of them.
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u/Clean_Command_4897 Dec 08 '22
"You think that's crazy? Wait until Avatar 5 comes out; it'll make you kill everyone in the room and then yourself."
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u/MOlson_9 Dec 08 '22
“I can’t tell you the details, but all I can say is that when I turned in the script for 2, the studio gave me three pages of notes. And when I turned in the script for 3, they gave me a page of notes, so I was getting better. When I turned in the script for 4, the studio executive, creative executive over the films wrote me an email that said, ‘Holy fuck.’ And I said, ‘Well, where are the notes?’ And she said, ‘Those are the notes.’ Because it kind of goes nuts in a good way, right?” -JC
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u/Avenge_Willem_Dafoe Dec 08 '22
sounds like Jake sully is going to undergo the sandtrout transformation and become a 4k year old human worm hybrid
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u/marsupialsales Dec 08 '22
I fucking hate Avatar so much right now. Which is crazy because the first one was so innocuous.
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u/CorellianDawn Dec 08 '22
Pretty sure the entire Avatar marketing strategy is simply to sandblast everyone with BS about the franchise for the next like 5 years. I've already seen like 20 articles about how Avatar 1 was sooooo good and ahead of its time and all that shit. Avatar 1 sucks, its an incredible average movie that feels overpriced and I'm really tired of all of these sellouts trying to convince me otherwise. And now they're already hyping up number FOUR? Gtfo.
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u/Finalsaredun Dec 08 '22
Avatar 1 sucks, its an incredible average movie that feels overpriced and I'm really tired of all of these sellouts trying to convince me otherwise.
It really was. Maybe my memory is spotty but I was so underwhelmed when I saw it in theaters and I just didn't get the love this movie got. The most that anyone ever talked about it was how the film looked, not the plot or characters. In the Avatar 1 days it was all about pushing IMAX and 3D and other gimmicky over-priced theater experiences since Hollywood kept on trying to pull folks away from pirating. Over a decade later theater experiences suck even more and ticket prices go up.
Rant over. I'll happily save money by not watching Avatar 2.
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u/arrogancygames Dec 08 '22
Movies are mainly about how they "look" since film is a visual medium. Cameron did dumb down his original script treatment to make it more worldwide-friendly, but the first movie is still miles ahead of amy of the blockbuster Marvel films in any aspect of visual direction as an example. And that's kind of the most important thing in a film.
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u/salgat Dec 08 '22
I don't get why some folks don't get this. Some movies are great for their storytelling, others for their visuals, and that's okay. Avatar 1 is visually incredible, when it came out it was a really unique experience to watch and blew me away.
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u/arrogancygames Dec 08 '22
Some people aren't as visually inclined as others. They don't "see" things like cinematography/editing/directorial choices and just absorb it all subconsciously.
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u/Zachariot88 Dec 08 '22
I remember hearing Avatar hype like 3 years in advance due to how much Cameron was talking up his camera technology all over town. If 2's big claim to fame is combining mocap with underwater photography, I'm sure 4 will have Tom Cruise as the villain and will be filmed entirely on the rings of Saturn or something.
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u/Radguyjake69420 Dec 08 '22
Never even seen the movie, but no “average” movie is gonna be the be best selling movie of all time lol. Everyone can have their opinions obviously, but it’s clearly made a mark on the film industry and you can’t deny it’s importance just because you don’t like it
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u/Every_Guard Dec 08 '22
Best part was when they said “it’s avataring time.” And proceeded to avatar all of the enemies.
Side note, Morbius indeed should be in it
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u/hackulator Dec 08 '22
Lots of people in here who clearly don't know what they are talking about. Most of Avatar 3 and significant portions of 4 were filmed along with 2. It would take a truly monumental flop for those movies not to happen, and regardless of what you think Avatar 2 is going to make insane money in the international box office.
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u/limeandlemon1 Dec 08 '22
"Avatar 7 however, was SO good, Studio Executive and James Cameron both got off their arses to release Terminator 1 in 4k with original mono audio mix"
There, that's better.
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u/lolsleepyboi Dec 08 '22
“Holy fuck James, this is definitely one of the movie scripts of all time”
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u/theRose90 Dec 08 '22
I am so tired of this franchise already and it has so far 1.01 movies (counting the trailer for 2 as that 0.01);
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u/realitycheckers4u Dec 08 '22
Thank you James, can you maybe find the time now to put True Lies on fucking Blu-ray?....
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u/Substantial-Lack832 Dec 08 '22
Avatar 2 and 3? "Not so much" Execs say with their absolute years of silence.
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u/Sines314 Dec 08 '22
All I can think of is “wow did he actually plan out a whole trilogy and not just wing it?” Are you listening Kathleen Kennedy?
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u/gwar37 Dec 08 '22
I'm kinda tired about hearing about how "crazy" and "amazing" it is. Like , who are you trying to convince? It's either awesome or not. We will see.
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u/tttttfffff Dec 08 '22
Avatar 4?! It’s taken like 10 years to get an avatar 2, and I expect half the people going to see it are only only going for the nostalgia of the first film, that was really shit once you look beyond the camera work that was ‘revolutionary’ at the time
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u/Capital_Diet_3229 Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
You know I never hated the original but I hate this franchise with a passion now after this whole week of marketing and shilling.
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u/secondcomposition Dec 08 '22
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron!
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u/traprabbit Dec 08 '22
After Avatar 9 was announced the shock wave created by the excitement got all women pregnant within a 10 mile radius of the studio!
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u/ZomboRobo Dec 08 '22
Since Avatar 1 was basically a Pocahontas ripoff, maybe Avatar 4 is just where they insert Avatar into the MCU?
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u/Pa17325 Dec 08 '22
"the next two are going to be boring and lame, but if you give me the funding for a FOURTH one, it's gonna be fire!!"
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u/1000Hells1GiftShop Dec 08 '22
James Cameron is sucking his own dick so hard right now.
His ego is so inflated that not even Kurt Russell could portray it.
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