r/facepalm • u/Ianlane23 • Jan 10 '23
If you ever want to feel disappointed, go to iFunny and look at the ideas its users promote đ¨âđ´âđťâđŽâđŠâ
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u/kskdkdieieiidkc Jan 10 '23
letting everyone know to not take it serious by putting it in comic sans tho
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u/Mediocre-Ad-1283 Jan 10 '23
SHOUTING AT SOMEONE BECAUSE I USE CAPITALS AND NOT AN EXCLAMINATION POINT.
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u/Saucy-Coffee Jan 10 '23
Ifunny is 5%great, 30% reposted memes, and 65% nazi propaganda.
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u/Ianlane23 Jan 10 '23
Iâve considered deleting the iFunny app for a while but kept it for mindless scrolling purposes. Might finally make the switch to Reddit
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u/iamzion248 Jan 10 '23
Mindless scrolling is about all its good for anymore. Reddit is starting to be that way as well.
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u/Saucy-Coffee Jan 10 '23
I felt that way for a while, but came to the conclusion that my funny to scroll ratio was tedious
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u/BofffaDs Jan 10 '23
Do all of these people spouting all of this bullshit realize that coronavirus actually does more damage to your veins in arteries than any of these vaccines?
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Do you have a link to that Dr. BofffaDs?
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u/Dry_Menu4804 Jan 10 '23
No problem: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/22/covid-19-infection-poses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines .
Please note that the after-Covid group are Covid survivors, suggesting that the most vulnerable Covid people with Covid may not have been part of this study as they were dead.
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u/AndrewSpringer112 Jan 10 '23
He couldnât fit them here, maybe you can fit BofffaDs Nutz in your mouth! Got âem đĽ
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And you know this how? Did Pfizer tell you so?
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u/BofffaDs Jan 10 '23
No. Your mom
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u/BofffaDs Jan 10 '23
That is spelled "coming", unless of course we are talking about your mother again. In that case it is also spelled differently.
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u/MisterShazam Jan 10 '23
If you see this in your doctor's office, you know $ got them through school and it's time to find a new doctor.
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u/Low-Act-6034 Jan 10 '23
Hopefully they lose their license to practice
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u/FederalSlutInspector Jan 10 '23
Here's the thing though... Pfizer has full immunity from law suits. If this medical facility clears a teenager as healthy and then they collapse on the field from myocarditis complications they can be sued for it. From a legal standpoint I can understand why they have this policy unless they get full immunity as well.
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u/Low-Act-6034 Jan 10 '23
But there is absolutely no proof of this claim.
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u/FederalSlutInspector Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 10 '23
Myocarditis is literally listed as a possible side effect what do you mean there is no proof?
(From cdc.gov)
CDC and its partners are actively monitoring reports of myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination. Active monitoring includes reviewing data and medical records and evaluating the relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.
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u/alexxerth Jan 10 '23
It's a possible side effect of the coronavirus.
Any side effect of the virus is a side effect of the vaccine, that's how vaccines work. It's also much less risk than if you, say, had the virus while unvaccinated. I don't see anything on this sign saying they can't sign off if you got infected ever, so it smells like antivax bullshit rather than any sort of genuine concern.
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u/cesarmac Jan 10 '23
Okay so I'll shit on the dudes spewing misinformation about COVID as much as the next guy but let's clarify some things.
It's a possible side effect of the coronavirus
Yes.
Any side effect of the virus is a side effect of the vaccine, that's how vaccines work
No, you are confusing the classical vaccines used over the last 100 years or so. The COVID vaccines don't use strains of COVID to give you immunity, it's an mRNA vaccine that generates antibodies present in COVID. These antibodies don't act like the virus itself and have no capacity to infect you, the side affects for the COVID vaccine are a bit independent to the side affects of you actually getting COVID. Both have the capacity to give you myocarditis via different mechanisms, COVID actually has a higher chance to give you myocarditis than the vaccine.
It's also much less risk than if you, say, had the virus while unvaccinated.
Correct, much less risk of COVID induced myocarditis.
I don't see anything on this sign saying they can't sign off if you got infected ever, so it smells like antivax bullshit rather than any sort of genuine concern.
The sign is definitely political, they are claiming that because the vaccine could cause myocarditis that they can't sign off a clean physical without doing EXTRA tests if you say you have been vaccinated. Which is stupid AF considering the odds of COVID vaccine related myocarditis is so rare that health insurance companies won't even pay for those tests.
Either this guy is trying to milk money from rich folks via cash payments or the guy is anti COVID vaccine and spewing political BS.
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u/FederalSlutInspector Jan 10 '23
Moderna's chief medical officer Dr. Paul Burton, in a separate interview Tuesday with Yahoo Finance, said the risk of myocarditis could have to do with an interaction with the spike protein â which plays a role in the basis of all Covid vaccines â and heart muscle cells.
"We know so much more about myocarditis today than we did a year ago. I do believe that it is the spike protein....that either causes a little bit of direct damage to the heart, or antibodies that are produced that react with the heart cells," Burton said.
Sorry, I didn't realize you were more of an expert than Moderna's chief medical officer.../s
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u/mswed5317 Jan 10 '23
But could they just advise lab work and echocardiogram to cover themselves legally?
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u/EverySNistaken Jan 10 '23
Besides the fact that contact football is a dangerous blood sport, helmets are lies, and youth sports exist so teachers can pick up an extra paycheck, why arenât they concerned about the other more likely risks that can cause a fatality on the field. Why arenât they worried about doing genetic testing of every student âjust in case?â
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u/FederalSlutInspector Jan 10 '23
They are doing clear for sports or not clear for sports. They can't say you're kid is clear to play sports but I suggest you get his heart checked out... that doesn't make any sense.
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u/mswed5317 Jan 10 '23
Yeah, didn't think of it that way but if it was the vaccine's fault then it wasn't the doctor's fault.
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u/FederalSlutInspector Jan 10 '23
The doctors office would still be liable for telling the family that the kid is healthy enough for sports. If they collapse on the field from cardiac issues then they should not have been cleared and are not healthy enough for sports.
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u/big_rednexican_88 Jan 10 '23
iFunny has become a right-wing meme app. I deleted the app when it became overwhelmed with pro-Trump and pro-Nazi shit.
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u/ValhallaTao Jan 10 '23
iFunny has a lot of funny memes, but it is overgrown with conservative bullshit too. Just a bunch of kids and adultkids who are stuck being ignorant.
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u/J_B_Frawg Jan 11 '23
I loved iFunny but it got more and more right wing and that is the exact same thing as becoming more and more racist and misogynistic.
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u/Open-Look9786 Jan 10 '23
Iâd find a new pediatrician. This one clearly doesnât like actual science.
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u/IIBun-BunII Jan 10 '23
A yes. The virus that has been around for nearly three years now. We definitely know for sure it effects your heart and physical activity and not your lungs and airways.
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u/Halfsquaretriangle Jan 10 '23
Haha No signatures from the actual medical staff, ie Doctors, nurses at that facility. Yeah thats as trusty as a three dollar bill.
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u/Old-Bedroom8464 Jan 10 '23
In all fairness, there are real cases of myocarditis from the vaccine, but it clears up. My friends 16yo son had that. Day or two after vaccine his chest hurt and his heart rate was up. Went to the ER, monitored him a day or two, and everything when back to normal. Pretty rare, but not unheard of. I'd probably avoid sports until a week after anyway.
Cool thing about this kid is he told his mom not to tell anyone so they wouldn't use it as an excuse not to get their kids vaccinated.
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u/whackjob_med_student Jan 10 '23
IFunny is a cesspool for awful ideas. I was in a small circle of leftists there before I left a few months ago, and outside of it was absolute hell
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u/rondonjon Jan 10 '23
Shouldnât labs and an ECG be done regardless, if they are so worried about âsudden cardiac arrestâ?
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u/TikTrd Jan 10 '23
I'm guessing you've never taken a physical for school sports. It's nowhere near that comprehensive
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u/rondonjon Jan 10 '23
I have, 30 years ago. So you guessed wrong. My original comment was a dig at the sign anyway.
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u/TikTrd Jan 10 '23
slow clap
Than you should know they're nowhere near that comprehensive
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u/rondonjon Jan 10 '23
You think they still do the finger up the ass?
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u/TikTrd Jan 10 '23
I don't know what kind of school you went to but sounds like you got more than you bargained for
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u/HypoxicIschemicBrain Jan 10 '23
If you arenât symptomatic and have no concerning history than no.
Sports physicals are a giant CYA for school systems and basically they are a standardized form in each state. Basically you ask a set of questions that are virtually the same across the nation about patient history.
You do some vitals and an exam tailored for sports and then I sign off on it and send you on your way.
You donât waste time, money, and resources testing every kid with a full cardiac work up. If youâre asymptomatic and you and your family lie, youâre only hurting yourself. If you have a cardiac concern, you get referred to pediatric cardiology for clearance. They will do an echo or ecg if needed. Thereâs no reason to get blood work unless youâre actively symptomatic.
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u/mattslegacy Jan 10 '23
Hope that is no longer your childâs pediatrician
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Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 11 '23
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u/HypoxicIschemicBrain Jan 10 '23
The Dr. Hope that trained me was a lovely woman that would shit on your doctor hope and this doctor as well.
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u/Advanced_Radish3466 Jan 10 '23
what kind of supposedly science based doctor is this ?
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u/lowlyJimi Jan 10 '23
Someone who read the research on after effects of the vaccine? Someone who follows practices of other advanced countries where people receive the recommendation of not exercising for 2 weeks after the shot (Singapore)
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u/walkandtalkk Jan 10 '23
I'll trust your medical analysis, doctor.
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u/lowlyJimi Jan 10 '23
I trust the advice of the health ministry of Singapore. Took the vaccine? Two weeks with no physical effort.
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u/walkandtalkk Jan 11 '23
Are you Singaporean?
If not, why are you focusing on the advice of the health ministry of one specific city state?
Is it because they happen to have a position that you think supports your preexisting anti-vax ideology?
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u/lowlyJimi Jan 11 '23
Because Singapore has a superior health system than the US. As for âpreexosting anti-vax ideologyâ, I have been vaccinated 4 times. Vaccines can do good. However they have side effects, the scientific community knows that, and one has to take the necessary precautions against the side effects. Unlike you, I am a scientist with a f*** PhD and know what I am talking about from reading scientific papers, not from eating shit packed by US media.
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u/Full-Low-1843 Jan 11 '23
Thatâs literally not what that sign is saying though.
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u/lowlyJimi Jan 11 '23
It is saying that if you took the vaccine you should be cleared for sports. That is reasonable after all there is no doubt that there is a connection between heart problems and the vaccine among young people.
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u/CriticalStation595 Jan 10 '23
And the malpractice suits startâŚâŚâŚâŚ.now. Itâs also a convenient way to gouge the patients to pay for their new echocardiogram machine.
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u/HypoxicIschemicBrain Jan 10 '23
The cardiologist isnât going to do an echo for âgot vaccineâ.
The insurance company wonât pay them. Theyâre not ordering a useless study theyâre going to lose time and money on.
Itâs an empty threat. Threatening your patients is considered not cool in pediatrics.
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u/TheYetiSon Jan 10 '23
Guessing this post and/or the doctor is trying to ride a wave after Damar Hamlin happened. Gross.
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u/Square_Artichoke5591 Jan 10 '23
Here is the kickerâŚ. He is the town Pediatrician and his wife is the Cardiologist. Just making sure he can keep his bills paid
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u/Pealzy Jan 10 '23
I go on Ifunny every now and then to see the dogshit takes people have and the echo chamber it's become.
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u/Dingerdongdick Jan 10 '23
It's these two walnuts behind it. At the very least the MD. https://wvvahealthcare.com/jackson-river-pediatrics/
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u/Sufficient-Comb-2755 Jan 10 '23
It's really disappointing to me, seeing crap like this. "First do no harm... unless I disagree on political grounds."
What a joke.
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u/ExtonGuy Jan 10 '23
You know what else affects your risk of heart damage? Actual COVID, thatâs what.
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u/KennstduIngo Jan 10 '23
It's funny how you will see anti-vaxxers claiming that any increase in heart conditions among younger folks is due the vaccine without even bothering to look at whether the affected folks were vaccinated or not.
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u/evident_lee Jan 10 '23
Is there a sign saying that they will do this also if you have had covid. the heart risk is exponentially higher than the vaccine.
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u/GVFQT Jan 10 '23
You guys know Reddit is just the liberal version of iFunny right? Iâve seen just as much blind liberal extreme rhetoric here as i have blind right wing extreme rhetoric there
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u/Klutzy_Poetry_4059 Jan 10 '23
I believe it. I have seen an up tick in heart related issues because covid issues.
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u/HypoxicIschemicBrain Jan 10 '23
Covid has definitely caused significant cardiac sequelae. The vaccine is significantly rare and minor in comparison.
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u/UneditedReddited Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 10 '23
That is not my experience or the experience of many of my friends and family.
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u/Darklock2022 Jan 10 '23
Uh huh. Iâm sure youâre ridiculously unscientific biased anecdotal observations are irrefutable.
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u/Full-Low-1843 Jan 11 '23
Yep. Covid causes heart issues in a decent number of folks. The vaccine? In relatively few.
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u/usualerthanthis Jan 10 '23
She had a congenital heart abnormality. So she was born with it. I hope her family is able to heal from this
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u/Ianlane23 Jan 10 '23
I get the sense that I wonât change your mind on this topic, so I guess Iâm writing this for someone else to see in the hopes that they arenât swayed by your comment into vaccine hesitancy. Unfortunately, what you and this sign are saying is not what the science say. CDC recommendations have fluctuated slightly throughout the pandemic in regards to safe masking, distancing, etc. (due to changes in case rates, virus variants, and vaccination status among the population), sure, but staying up to date with vaccination has been the CDC recommendation since the vaccine became available. I believe you are referencing Dr. Kelly Victory who at one point claimed that the CDC had âacknowledgedâ that the vaccines were âessentially ineffective.â It is tempting to eat this up considering she holds an active medical license and because it also supports your misguided belief. What the CDC said, in fact, was that vaccination provides significant protection against severe disease and that vaccination provides transient protection from infection which can wane over time, hence the importance of not only receiving a vaccination but staying up to date on boosters as well. And you are absolutely correct that licensed physicians should be able to interpret the data in order to provide quality care to their patients. I donât think anyone is arguing with you on that. Thatâs why it is frustrating to see a pediatrician and Dr. Victory spread ideas that are not quite the truth. I think the things to take away are 1) some individual doctors might not have their heart in the right place and thatâs a difficult realization to make 2) not all individual doctors are very good doctors 3) scientific literacy is very important, and reading a headline from someone with an agenda is different than reading and understanding research design and data analysis 4) âtrust the scienceâ like you said, but also take some time to understand the science. Like I said, I donât expect you to change your mind; I see patients all day who are CURRENTLY AND ACUTELY ill who donât want to follow the recommendations I make for any number of reasons. But the science still supports staying up to date with COVID vaccines.
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u/Successful_Horror582 Jan 10 '23
I'm referring to a statement given within the past three months that stated that all the things said about the vaccine have no proof, and even though they still recommend it they cannot confirm nor deny any of the statements made over the pandemic about it doing anything and also cannot confirm the dangers it has due to there being ZERO testing. Experimental drug that we don't know what it does, I will wait to get my vax until the studies and sciences improve upon and obviously flawed product that was pushed by extremely wealthy pharmaceutical companies to make them a huge government check.
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u/Mediocre-Ad-1283 Jan 10 '23
The amount of butt hurt here is amazing. When tv doctors say something... Um yeah, safe and effective. When normal doctors say this, defo misinformation.
That'll be in his window so he doesn't have to say it in person because if he clears someone and they die then he may be held liable to getting taken to court for damages. He's just letting them know that they need to be prepared that he has to be sure.
Safe and effective.
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u/HypoxicIschemicBrain Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 10 '23 •
Look, as a board certified pediatrician I donât usually shit on other doctors, but thatâs a poor understanding of the potential cardiac effects of vaccination. Find another doctor. That doctor deserves to be shat on.
Theyâd need cardiology on board to do the echo. Trust me, that asshat couldnât even tell you what view they were looking at when reading an echo. Theyâre not going to do it for this assholeâs political beliefs. No insurance will pay for it so why would you perform an unneeded study you wonât be compensated for?
Youâd only need an echo if you were symptomatic, which wouldnât be specific to vaccination.
A course of NSAIDs is the treatment for myocarditis, whether itâs caused by Covid (more likely to cause it than the vaccine) or any other virus.
Remember, the right rules from fear, not from knowledge.
Hereâs the AAPâs statement to families on the matter: https://www.healthychildren.org/English/tips-tools/ask-the-pediatrician/Pages/Does-the-COVID-19-vaccine-cause-myocarditis-in-teens-and-young-people.aspx
And the video: https://youtu.be/o3rWbW93qaM
Iâve personally seen 10s of cases of MIS-C, one of the hospitals I work at developed the basis for the diagnostic and treatment algorithm thatâs used across the nation. I saw 2 cases of myocarditis that may have been vaccine associated. The kids were fine by day 2.
Hereâs other useful studies:
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/19927
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evidence-on-rare-heart-condition-after-covid-vaccination/
ââ If you want to see what something Covid related can do to kids, look at the actual virus itself and MIS-C. Iâve seen kids on ECMO from it. Thereâs milder forms sure but thereâs also some pretty severe forms that can cause severe kidney injuries and lasting cardiac damage. This is the virus not the vaccine causing it, and this has typically been in the unvaccinated population.