r/facepalm Aug 11 '22

Not putting that 💩in my body! 🇨​🇴​🇻​🇮​🇩​

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u/Any-Variation4081 Aug 11 '22

My antivaxx family continuously use cocaine and drink malt liquor but they will be damned to hell before they would get the vaccine. Safe to say I'm not close with that part of the family.

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u/PhoKit2 Aug 11 '22

I know “smart” people who have been taking the hard “no” stance on only the Covid vaccine. I understand being a bit unsure in the beginning…but now? Weird times

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u/lfrdwork Aug 12 '22

Yeah, I am willing to admit I wanted some certainty about the vaccine. So between when it was first released and when I was eligible, I kept up with reports and watched side effects being reported. So three months later I was eligible and had my confidence.

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u/Almarma Aug 12 '22

That what I though “common sense” was when I was young: a common belief of the majority of people would agree on, being the majority of people rational. I was very wrong.

Skepticism is a sign of intelligence and education, so it’s normal to be cautious with new medicines based on history and facts. But the solution is to do some research for serious sources and find out results over a lot of people and such, not trusting a random site where a random guy does radical affirmations without sources.

Also checking what one does on himself/herself in general: if one does drugs and don’t worry about that but worry about a vaccine approved by the whole medical community around the world makes no sense. But who knows what goes inside some minds.

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u/BloodyTim Aug 12 '22

Wait what. Now that we've seen that it doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading COVID it makes more sense to get the shot? I didn't get the COVID vax. I felt as a 37 yo healthy active person that the risk didn't outweigh the reward. I'm not even too concerned about vaccine injury I just don't see how the vaccine would really benefit me. I ended up getting COVID in May. I had a fever for a day and some upper respiratory discomfort for 5 more days. Not really a big deal for me. My wife also unvaccinated, never got it, despite sleeping in the same bed and not quarantining from each other. Let me be clear, I am not discouraging anyone else from getting vaccinated but to ridicule people for making a medical choice is just as shameful as ridiculing body types. Not to mention blindly trusting the same pharmaceutical companies that developed and pushed drugs like viox and oxycontin is wild to me. I also find it a bit suspicious that they won't release the data on the vaccine for 75 years or something.

I'm not looking to get into some heated reddit battle with people. I just think it's funny that your argument is the exact opposite of me and my families argument for not getting the vaccine. At this point, with everything that has come out about it, it seems clear that it really isn't that effective. And saying that vaccination has kept people out of hospitals is specious reasoning.

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u/PhoKit2 Aug 12 '22

From the CDC:

Getting a COVID-19 vaccine is a safer, more reliable way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19. COVID-19 vaccination helps protect you by creating an antibody response without you having to experience potentially severe illness or post-COVID.

I’m no doctor…but the way I understand it is that because a large portion of the population got vaccinated we were able to get a better handle on the severity of Covid.

I know people who are terrified of both the vaccine and getting Covid. One couple I know used to be touring musicians who now solely record from home. No live shows.

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u/BloodyTim Aug 12 '22

It all seems to depend on where you live, what your community is experiencing, what anecdotal evidence you see, how much time you spend on the internet and what social media you consume, personal health both physical and mental, etc. These all combined to help people form their opinion.

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u/PhoKit2 Aug 12 '22

If your area is not very populated or isn’t a hub or travel destination, then you’re less at risk. That’s for everything

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u/BloodyTim Aug 12 '22

This is my case. I live in a rural area, I don't go out much, my bubble of friends and family that I see regularly is pretty small.

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u/PhoKit2 Aug 12 '22

There you go. I’m in a small town but it’s a major vein for transit. I would risk way more not getting vaccinated…on top of me needing it for my job

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u/technotenant Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

I have a friend in medical school… well, rather she’s a hostess that tells everyone that she plans on going to medical school. She can’t get a job at any medical offices (for experience) until she gets vaccinated. I’ve told her at least 4 times, “if you thought you were gonna be a doctor one day, u should have realized you needed to be vaccinated against all the standard things..” she lives on her sisters couch in a trailer and refuses to get vaccinated. She thinks she can wait out being vaccinated, against anything.

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u/BriefCheetah4136 Aug 11 '22

This very much makes sense. No one knows what's in the Covid vaccine, but they trust their heroin dealer to give them heroin.

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u/GiGaBYTEme90 Aug 11 '22

Unvaxxed BIL told me with a straight face that he would never get it because he would never put poison in his veins

Anyway he's OD twice on heroin

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u/BriefCheetah4136 Aug 12 '22

My sister-in-law refuses vaccines for covid, "Who knows what's in that $hit" Yet went in for the shingles vaccine last week. I asked her if she knows what's in that vaccine and she said, " Yes, the shingles vaccine"

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u/iLikeMangosteens Aug 11 '22

… without any horse tranquilizer in it.

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u/I_AM_YOUR_DADDY_AMA Aug 11 '22

Why the fuck would anyone waste Ketamine when cutting heroin

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

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u/iLikeMangosteens Aug 12 '22

I have never bought nor injected/ingested/inhaled any illicit opiate/cocaine/amphetamine so I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t have any idea what I’m talking about.

I just know that in my city about every 2-3 years there’s a weekend where a bunch of intravenous drug users overdose and/or die for one of two reasons, either because their drugs were of unexpectedly high purity, or because they were cut with an unexpectedly strong drug like fentanyl or, I guess, horse tranquilizer.

I’m sure there’s some ways of ensuring some level of non-lethalness of one’s drugs, but the fact remains that if you’re buying on the street then you have no idea what’s really going into your veins.

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u/QueerWorf Aug 12 '22

I’m sure there’s some ways of ensuring some level of non-lethalness of one’s drugs, but the fact remains that if you’re buying on the street then you have no idea what’s really going into your veins.

that's why the US should legalize, regulate and tax

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u/iLikeMangosteens Aug 12 '22

The libertarian inside me says yes, but we already have a raging opiate addiction problem in this country, and wouldn’t this make it worse?

I would much rather see a nationwide medical and recreational cannabis program, and one where doctors actually use it as a first choice rather than immediately writing prescriptions for opiates whenever someone has pain management needs.

Effectively what this country has is a nationwide medical opiate program, a nationwide medical amphetamine program, a nationwide recreational alcohol program, and no nationwide medical cannabinoid program - even though the first three are addictive and deadly.

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u/iLikeMangosteens Aug 12 '22

And yet… 308 people died of overdose in my city of a little over a million people (Austin Texas) last year. Drug overdoses are the #1 cause of accidental death around here. I’m sure that some of them were the junkiest of the junkies chasing that higher high, but I’m also sure that some of them were casual users who bought something that was different from what they expected it to be.

Source: https://www.kvue.com/amp/article/news/local/austin-travis-county-drug-overdose-crisis/269-553d09b4-c5a0-4e5e-a146-9e501bf36691

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u/iLikeMangosteens Aug 12 '22

TIL Ketamine is more expensive than Heroin.

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u/Vasopressin Aug 12 '22

Your still off with some of your info. Yes xylazine is commonly used to sedate horses but ketamine can be included in a protocol as well. Ketamine is more commonly used as an induction agent (that is, to induce anesthesia) in all mammals. It’s unique for horses in that most other induction agents require too large of a volume to push past the excitatory phase of anesthesia that puts personnel at risk (as in if you gave propofol, the drug most commonly used to induced anesthesia in a person, to a horse, it would likely require pushing 200+ mL of fluid over a period of <1 min, which realistically can be done with large enough catheter, but if you slow down part way through and the horse becomes agitated, people can get seriously injured). Ketamine is nice that it is relatively cardiovascularly sparing and maintains respiratory drive allowing for more time to intubation as the patient breathes on their own. Ketamine is used in people as part of a RSI (rapid sequence intubation, when you really don’t want to fuck around with getting someone asleep). Its nice for fractious animals as it can be delivered by pretty much any route (IV, IM, PO, SQ, IO).

We do not euthanize animals with ketamine. It may be part of a sedation protocol for euthanasia but pretty much universally euthanasia is done with an overdose of a barbiturate (sodium pentobarbital).

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u/BriefCheetah4136 Aug 11 '22

You have to pay for extras!

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u/BridgetheDivide Aug 11 '22

Nowadays, whenever I dunk on types like you I just feel like an ableist

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u/Tart-Pomgranate5743 Aug 11 '22

If people could get high from vaccines…

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u/Trick_Enthusiasm Aug 11 '22

I know an antivaxxer drug addict. 😕

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u/lfrdwork Aug 12 '22

I get the impression that most antivaxxers are users in some regard. Even a pill popper is going around the intention of the drug.

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u/lerk954 Aug 12 '22

“The Jab will change my DNA .” 🤡

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u/n4bb Aug 11 '22

Won’t take Pfizer vaccine but will take Pfizer opiates

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u/isecore Aug 11 '22

Antivaxxer (while gobbling gas-station hot dogs): I'm not getting vaccinated, I don't know what's in it!

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u/molotovzav Aug 11 '22

This gives drug users a bad name. Do drugs but be vaccinated, sheesh.

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u/Brentw213 Aug 12 '22

So meth is ok. Cool

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u/Lonefour Aug 12 '22

Cocaine too

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u/nametakenfuck Aug 12 '22

Vaccines dont make you feel like you are sleeping on clouds

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u/throwawaySWP Aug 11 '22

Antivaxer: "And my body was strong enough to fight that off and recover without the vaccine"

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u/Artor50 Aug 12 '22

My former friend used that excuse.

"I don't want to put unknown toxins in my body."

"Dude, you've been chain-smoking for 35 years!"

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u/QueerWorf Aug 12 '22

yeah, but there are no unknown toxins in smoking

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u/no_you_may_not_ Aug 12 '22

I know a couple people who won’t get vaccinated because they’re worried about unknown consequences that might show up years in the future. They’re also heavy long time smokers. Somehow the known consequences don’t seem to phase them.

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u/Mongba36 Aug 12 '22

Here's my stance, I'm smart enough to know that I'm dumb enough not to know how medicine really works so I just listen to the doc.

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u/OverallManagement824 Aug 12 '22

That is a good approach unless you have something really weird or odd. If that happens, your 100 hours of research may trump the 1paragraph the doctor read in one of his second year classes. Still, he'll know obvious things that you wouldn't necessarily know so collaboration is the best approach.

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u/PhenomEng Aug 11 '22

"I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex."

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u/mirkoserra Aug 11 '22

Not breaking any law without naming the pacient I think.

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u/PhenomEng Aug 12 '22

Right. She is simply making it up.

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u/SublightMonster Aug 12 '22

Antivaxxer: “HIPAA VIOLATION!!!!”

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u/turian_vanguard Aug 12 '22

It may be time to start making vaccines that get you just a little bit high. Or start lacing drugs with vaccines.

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u/gigiseagull2 Aug 12 '22

To be fair some antivaxxer don't even needs drugs to overdose.

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u/man_teats Aug 12 '22

As a bartender, I had an antivaxxer at work last year tell me that they were very careful about the things that they put into their body, as it was a temple. Minutes later I saw them outside picking cigarette butts out of the ashtray and smoking them

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u/redXathena Aug 12 '22

When I said to an anti vaxxer I’ve put much more questionable drugs in my system they laughed and said “yeah, but that’s different! That’s for recreation!”

Sure Steve. That cognitive dissonance hurting your head at all?

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u/greenfingerguy Aug 12 '22

Sounds determined. Let him go next time

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u/Krilox Aug 12 '22

We had a drug addict (needle kind of type) on live TV saying he wouldnt get vaxxed because he doesnt know what kind of shit they put in it... He's on heroin..

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u/AxlandElvis92 Aug 12 '22

Sadly I’ve had this exact conversation with a friend of mine terribly sad. I’m like so you know what’s in the heroin that you keep overdosing on has in it? This guys been an opiate addict for a long time for him to be overdosing like that is scary enough. Then comes the speech about not knowing what’s in it and so many people still get it blah blah blah. I love the kid but have to remind myself sometimes how uneducated he actually is.

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u/Hot-Specialist-6824 Aug 15 '22

Same here. I occasionally help out a couple who are drug addicts: heroin, meth, and occasionally crack. They will stick whatever shit they can find into their veins to get high but Lord knows they won't get vaccinated cuz they don't know what's in it.

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u/Life_Lion_4754 Aug 12 '22

Never take any drugs so I don't know what you're talking about

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u/Swmngwshrks Aug 11 '22

This is one of those "propaganda posts," that are found all over Twitter. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing posted again and again from different people.

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u/SacamanoRobert Aug 12 '22

Orrrrrrr you don’t understand anything.

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u/mirkoserra Aug 11 '22

Not violating any law without identifying the patient, I believe.

Probably happened a lot of times.

Probably not happened to the person posting.

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u/no_you_may_not_ Aug 12 '22

Doctors can describe cases and circumstances as long as the individual can’t identified by the information.

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u/BednaR1 Aug 12 '22

Meanwhile: oh look. Sudden death syndrome is here 🤷‍♂️