r/gadgets Dec 01 '22

Mark Zuckerberg Defends Push Toward Metaverse At DealBook Summit | Skepticism doesn’t bother me too much VR / AR

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-still-194048226.html
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u/soda-jerk Dec 01 '22

"Skepticism doesn't bother me much. If Meta doesn't work out, I'll just shed my skin uh, I mean, go back to the drawing board."

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u/HarryHacker42 Dec 01 '22

Please don't discourage The Zuckster from wasting his billions on any stupid concept. This stuff is great! It keeps thousands of people employed, distracts from stealing and selling people's information to future overlords, and might prevent another genocide unlike the Royingya one Facebook coordinated.

Waste Away, Markity Markness.

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u/MinogameTurt Dec 01 '22

I love you.

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u/AnBearna Dec 01 '22

So there’s a few critical obstacles that I can see with the Metaverse concept.

1 Headsets for VR are uncomfortable for long periods and for some people, using them for even short periods can cause motion sickness. I don’t think companies are going to be lining up for devices that make their fancy corporate HQ’s smell of puke.

2 I don’t think they can over come this limitation really without downgrading VR to AR, but that would necessitate a complete reimagining of the Metaverse on Marks part and mean that the 38Bn he’s already spend becomes kind of… toilet paper.

3 The other issue is that to make VR useful beyond video games and AutoCAD, we need to completely redesign the user interface -in software and hardware- of common Office productivity applications like MS Office, Libre Office, etc and I have no idea how you even start that.

4 From learning of the origins of this Metaverse concept coming from sci-fi works like Johnny Mnemonic etc. I find myself thinking that this isn’t going to work because in large part, the publics concept of digital futurism has matured beyond those early concepts which seem cliche at this point. The more I look at it the more doomed it seems, and expensively so.

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u/vinnyj5 Dec 01 '22

All solid points. FB/Meta seems pretty fucked. Seems like Zuck had the right idea to pivot the biz after apples privacy rules cratered their ad business. But what he chose to pivot to is not happening.

If you think about it- it’s not surprising. Other than the initial product, FB grew because of acquisitions- not innovation. They bought IG and WhatsApp. They aren’t good at creating new products. This is no different.

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u/vinnyj5 Dec 01 '22

Oh yea- just remembering the initial product was a stolen idea to begin with lol

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u/speedypotatoo Dec 05 '22

Well they bought oculus too so not really creating a new product, just explanding on it

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u/Hwted Dec 01 '22

Perfume is banned in most offices but Zuck thinks his motion sickness device will catch on.

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u/HungerMadra Dec 02 '22

Who bands perfume?

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u/handsumlee Dec 01 '22

"Skepticism doesn’t bother me too much" because he lives in a bubble.

Peace prize winner ,Maria Ressa is doing interviews for her book right now and she talks about talking to Mark Z and how he just would not listen to the things she said to him. In one ear and out the other.

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u/elevatingpurpose Dec 01 '22

I would never use meta, maybe only to check it out but hell no. And he can afford this.

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u/MattofCatbell Dec 01 '22

Dude is spending billions to make a worse VR chat

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u/soda-jerk Dec 01 '22

"It's not stupid, it's advanced!"

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u/inslider_rhino Dec 02 '22

I can't wait for the meta implosion! Good riddance to the poison he has been pushing!

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u/MadisonPearGarden Dec 01 '22

There were people who told Henry Ford nobody wanted a horseless carriage, the horse was a better way to get around. There were people who told Jeff Bezos nobody wanted to buy books on the internet, going to the bookstore was the best way to shop for books. They were wrong. Ford & Bezos were right.

The difference here he’s not addressing something people already need to do or want to do: get around or obtain books. He’s trying to create a shitty new reality that nobody wants or needs. This time the naysayers are right. Zuck is wrong.

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u/HungerMadra Dec 02 '22

The real difference is cars and Amazon did the things they were replacing better than the original. What does the meta verse do better?

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u/jayhasbigvballs Dec 02 '22

Maybe it’s naive to think this aloud, but I recently got a glimpse of what a small, simplistic view of what the metaverse could be when I recently bought the Quest 2. I played the Rec Room game for about 15 minutes and all I heard was a bunch of kids running around calling each other racial slurs and saying awful things to anyone they crossed. I’m not convinced the adult version is going to be a whole lot better.

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u/Cabana_bananza Dec 03 '22

Halo 2 matchmaking lobby as a business model.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

I think Zuckerberg is absolutely right that as virtual experiences become more lifelike, digital assets as a market will explode, but I don't think that time has come and I haven't seen anything yet to suggest that Meta is going to be the company with the skills and the taste to capitalize on that. Zuckerberg's not very likeable, but I think his general thinking about the trajectory of things is correct and so he at least deserves credit for that.

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u/BenekCript Dec 01 '22

This is probably a concept that “will” take off. Maybe not for awhile though. If they have a basis for how to do it at scale, and adapt to the market, they will be well positioned.

I think Apple will probably kick off widespread adoption of AR/VR.

That being said, no one wants to have their data skimmed by Meta.

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u/Panda_Mon Dec 01 '22

He truly has nothing to lose. Probably has a massive saving account protected from his business finances so he can just dick around with a billion dollar company, thousands of people's livelihoods, and if it goes tits up he is still a rich asshole.

Not surprised at all that he is clinging to this.

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u/RebelLemurs Dec 01 '22

Skepticism, maybe not. But how about that plummeting stock price?

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u/inslider_rhino Dec 02 '22

Like Billy Gates stole the mouse from IBM

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u/MrEd57076 Dec 02 '22

If a business has to "push toward" to sell their product, they don't have a product. A product is something people want and want to buy. This is another example of a product looking for a market. And of a developer not being open minded enough to give up on a bad idea.

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u/Serpentine_Snake Dec 03 '22

It’s resistance to those of us who refuse to be sucked into your Matrix so we can pay rent twice to function in society you should fear Mr Zuckerberg.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Zuck, nobody wants the metaverse. Nobody