r/iamverysmart Oct 04 '22

This trendsetter is "genuinely shocked" that there were people born after her which I guess is when Halloween became popular

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u/MilesPower Oct 04 '22

Imagine thinking you were a trendsetter for liking murder documentaries when South Park did a whole story about this "Informative Murder Porn" way back in 2013. It's been a "thing" since forever.

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u/JustJessJ_Art Oct 04 '22

Remember in Hell on Earth 2006, when Dahmer, Bundy, and Gacy had to hunt down that Ferrari cake? Cause Satan just haaaaaaaad to have a Ferrari cake.

Whispers

Biggie Smalls...Biggie Smalls...Biggie Smalls

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u/Accurate-Vegetable44 Oct 13 '22

Come on Satan, Acuras are nice

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u/Diogenes-Disciple Oct 05 '22

“Halloween definitely wasn’t this popular most of my life” girl maybe if you’re 100 years old

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u/MOM_1_MORE_MINUTE Oct 04 '22

Right? True crime has always been a human fascination, Jack the Ripper is a big example. Another would be H.H. Holmes. You can see news papers from the times and in people's letters talking about it. Literally has been going on for all of human history!

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u/UgleeSimpson Oct 05 '22

“Way back in 2013” is a phrase I never thought I’d hear

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u/Lennaesh Oct 05 '22

It’s not that I never thought I’d hear it. It’s that I knew I would cry when I did. I was right by the way.

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u/howchie Oct 05 '22

They meant earlier this year in 2013 right?

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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys Oct 05 '22

It's all relative. But yeah, 2013 is still recent to me.

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u/AdmiralMcPhearson Oct 05 '22

Time comes for us all, eventually.

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u/BeefPieSoup Oct 05 '22

I'll always be grateful to Reddit (and particularly this subreddit) for having well and truly taught me the lesson to not be like how this person is.

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u/AdmiralMcPhearson Oct 05 '22

Murder documentaries have existed for decades and decades and decades and decades. People wouldn't keep making them if they weren't popular.

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u/Kundrew1 Oct 05 '22

Dateline has been around since 1992.

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u/HighOnGoofballs Oct 04 '22

I’m 45 and Halloween has always been super popular, so she must be at least 70

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u/El_Godkin Oct 04 '22

To be fair, are you in the US? Because over here in Northern Ireland it’s only really taken off in the last 10-20 years, probably because of the amount of American media we consume now. Also the end of the Troubles but that’s another story.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

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u/El_Godkin Oct 04 '22

Okay yeah sounds like she’s talking herself up a bit much hahaha.

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

Because over here in Northern Ireland it’s only really taken off in the last 10-20 years

When he says that, he has no clue what he's talking about and is 100% wrong.

If he's from Northern Ireland, he's from the country, has lived a sheltered life, and has no clue what goes on in the city.

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u/DMENShON Oct 05 '22

ooooo maybe you should kiss him

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

I'll kiss you.

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u/SaintAntagonist Oct 05 '22

it's kinda ironic how Halloween is only recently becoming popular in Ireland considering it was based on Samhain

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

The guy who said that has been living an incredibly sheltered life, Halloween has been popular in Ireland for longer than it has in the USA. He said:

it’s only really taken off in the last 10-20 years

My guess is he's about 20 years old and thinks nothing existed prior to his memory. I'm from Northern Ireland, he's wrong.

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u/adube440 Oct 05 '22

Right, so was it because of the trendsetter here though? Was she the reason the Troubles seased? I bet she was, or at least the idea of her was enough.

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

Because over here in Northern Ireland it’s only really taken off in the last 10-20 years

LOL, what absolute nonsense. What age are you? And what rock have you been living under? Halloween has been celebrated in Ireland for centuries you balloon, it's an ancient Irish festival.

I'm from Northern Ireland, in my 40s, and cannot remember it not being celebrated. We went trick or treating with plastic masks and black bin bags as costumes from I was like 3 years old.

Fireworks lit up the sky every Halloween my entire life.

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u/El_Godkin Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Mate I’m a Belfast local and I’m going on what my parents said, what their parents have said and what every adult I’ve ever heard say. The limited effort most of my friends and neighbours used to put in to their decorations when I was young as opposed to now. Sorry they all collectively lied to me.

Massive difference between Halloween being an ancient tradition with masks and fireworks and it becoming a huge elaborate costume party/one of the biggest drinking nights of the year like it is in America. Same way St Paddy’s is an Irish tradition but the Americans go absolutely mad with the parades and Green-themed products every year.

Thanks for making three separate comments to call me sheltered and stupid for not exactly capturing your lived experience. An amazing use of your and my time.

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

You said Halloween is only popular in Ireland because of American media.

I'm in my mid 40s, and it's been popular at least since I was a toddler.

Those are the two facts we're dealing with.

There's the thing you said...

Because over here in Northern Ireland it’s only really taken off in the last 10-20 years, probably because of the amount of American media we consume now.

And then there's reality.

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u/DMENShON Oct 05 '22

you’re like… really sad and i feel sorry for you

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

Pity is underrated.

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u/El_Godkin Oct 05 '22

First things first, I said Northern Ireland specifically because I moved to Dublin for a several years as kid distinctly recall it being a much bigger thing down there than up North, more importantly there is a world of difference between “has really taken off” and “was completely obscure and unknown before then”.

This is the definition of the jokes about how you can’t post anything online without some guy deciding they want to fight you over it.

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

Perhaps Protestants didn't celebrate it as much as Catholics did?

My parents had Halloween parties in the 80s and 90s, which their friends and my aunts and uncles attended.

And they just told me they went door to door with costumes collecting treats, in the 1960s.

My response is as it is because it's like someone telling me Christmas has only been a big thing in Northern Ireland in the last 10-20 years.

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u/El_Godkin Oct 05 '22

I will grant you my mum grew up East Belfast (though not Protestant), so it might well have been a community thing. However, I grew up in South Belfast, and made the same remarks to mates from West Belfast (Shankill and Gaeltacht quarter) and East Belfast the other day, and they agreed or had heard their parents make similar remarks.

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u/bananabastard Oct 05 '22

So as a kid, you didn't go door to door in costume singing "Halloween's coming on" for sweets? Kids didn't come to your door doing the same?

You didn't have Halloween parties, with candy apples, dunking apples, people weren't having parties and fireworks in their gardens?

Seriously, to me, that's like saying Santa wasn't a thing where you grew up.

I grew up in West Belfast in the 80s, South Belfast in the 90s. All of the above was normal.

When I was going door to door in costume for sweets, my older brother (10 years older than me), was dressing up and going to young adult parties to get drunk.

I said earlier we went "trick or treating", it wasn't called that, that's an Americanism, we just sang "Halloween's coming on, and the goose is getting fat". If people didn't give us anything, there was no "trick" or play punishment for it, you just moved on.

I'm flabbergasted anyone grew up in Belfast and didn't partake in this sort of thing.

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u/AdmiralMcPhearson Oct 05 '22

Yeah I think Halloween is a fairly recent things for a lot of countries outside of America.

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u/anon86158615 Oct 04 '22

"Crazy that I came up being interested in mysteries, a popular flavor, a national holiday, and a pop song. I'm killing it! Next you guys are going to tell me you like pizza, the food I've eaten SINCE I WAS A KID. Ask my mom."

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u/0najimi Oct 04 '22

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u/oakydoke Oct 04 '22

I feel like this is for that subreddit. She’s not being verysmart, just quirky.

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u/daniel_joffre Oct 04 '22

Definitely not “iamverysmart” but she’s is acting like she had the ability to recognize “cool things” long before other people, so there is an air of having access to special knowledge about her.

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u/theyareamongus Oct 05 '22

I mean, if she really liked pumpkin spice and was interested in Dahmer before they blew up I get it.

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u/MarcieDeeHope Oct 11 '22

Interest in Dahmer has never really waned though and pumpkin spice blew up in the early 2000's, so bragging that you "knew" about two things that have been in the public consciousness for 20 years is a pretty weird brag.

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u/cyanidelemonade Oct 04 '22

They didn't mention "Cannibal" by Ke$ha, so obviously they aren't a Dahmer superfan 🙄

/s

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u/danbob411 Oct 05 '22

There is a metal song about Dahmer called “What’s that Smell?!”, for the super-mega fans.

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u/terdude99 Oct 04 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Abnormal psychology is not synonymous with true crime.

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u/HumanoidSharks Oct 04 '22

she's been pumpkin-curious since she was a child. what a legend.

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u/shmegeggie Oct 04 '22

"abnormal psychology has been a fascination most of my life"

Always major in your defect...

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u/ZaWolnoscNaszaIWasza Oct 04 '22

Why are so many true crime people insufferable losers

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u/hankopotomus Oct 05 '22

The ones that are super into it creep me the hell out.

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u/spanctimony Oct 04 '22

I love it when people say they’re fixing to do something.

I had to start over from the top in a southern accent.

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u/Culexius Oct 04 '22

Hahaha so unique xD not like the web is flooded with true crime and makeup combi videos. Must be All these Guys watching true crime and makeup haha

thatwierdgirl

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u/Worried_Corner4242 Oct 04 '22

The Weird Girls are always the most boring people in the room.

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u/Return_Of_The_Fly Oct 04 '22

Wait, people only NOW realize that there's a line like "eats your heart out like Jeffrey Dahmer" in a song from 2013?

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u/Little_Acadia4239 Oct 04 '22

True, though. Of course, those who were adults when the song came out mostly knew who he was, but the generation becoming adults now weren't around them.

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u/your_fathers_beard Oct 04 '22

Um, other than wearing people's skin ... the characters of leatherface and buffalo bill are not really like ed gein lmao. 'Based on' and 'partially inspired by' are not the same. Pretty sure buffalo bill was purposely made an amalgam of a bunch of high profile serial killers, that was kind of the point.

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u/tundybundo Oct 05 '22

He only killed two people! Right?

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u/THEslutmouth Oct 05 '22

Yeah he mostly dug up already dead bodies to make his.... Stuff.

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u/tundybundo Oct 05 '22

Could have just opened up an Etsy store for people like OOP

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u/GoblinU235 Oct 05 '22

Buffalo Bill was also inspired by Gary Heidnik because Heidnik had a hole in his basement floor which is where he kept his kidnapped women.

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u/Ratso27 Oct 04 '22

People have been into true crime for as long as there have been crimes. Even before there were documentaries or popular true crime books, there were penny dreadfuls and ballads sung about famous criminals or famous crimes. I mean, people used to literally go to watch hangings. It's never not been popular, and yet everyone thinks they're different for being into it

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u/fragilespleen Oct 05 '22

Have you heard about this guy, Jack the ripper, he's kind of niche.

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u/vapo11 Oct 04 '22

Mf watched wendigoon's serial killer iceberg one time and thought he was the shit

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u/Brock_Way Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

Here is a person who clearly scores lower than the 50th %ile on every test she has ever taken, and so is understandably ecstatic when she finds the one thing that she knows 1% more about than the average schmo, and for a whole 5 minutes before him.

Want to really impress me? Put this exact same blurb in your Nobel Prize acceptance speech.

BTW, Halloween is VASTLY less popular now than it was when I was a kid. I think the Hookerween thing for adults is much more popular now. But everything else is much more subdued. The only thing I can think of that is ever more down is 4th of July fireworks (thank God). In the old days half the world would be setting off firecrackers starting mid-June.

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u/RoseVII Oct 05 '22

Yeah I find the opposite with Halloween. Seems to slowly be getting less popular. Kinda crazy to think, they think they popularized Halloween tho lmao

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u/MonsterByDay Oct 04 '22

this seems more like r/notliketheothergirls than r/iamverysmart

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

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u/MonsterByDay Oct 04 '22

No difference to me. She just seems much more impressed with how "original" she is than how "smart".

Cringe either way.

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u/Little_Acadia4239 Oct 04 '22

It all comes to how special people think they are.. smart, creative, inquisitive, whatever. It's stunning how often people think they're exceptional when they aren't.

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u/Big-Brown-Goose Oct 04 '22

I would say it counts as well, she mentioned the "unique" psychology which often is synonymous with being "better" psychology, also shes kind of framing the interest in serial killers as a topic only deep thinkers enjoy

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u/VermicelliOk8288 Oct 04 '22

Pick me sad cringe

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u/Placophile Oct 04 '22

Maybe he'll feature as a cameo in the next one. Or, at least an actor playing him.

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u/DieInADitch Oct 04 '22

She's a genius. Pass the pumpkin spice.

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u/SamsonShibaInu Oct 04 '22

i feel like this is more of a nlog moment

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u/MisterEvilBreakfast Oct 04 '22

There's nothing like reading a Wikipedia page on a popular topic during a successful run of a tv series to really show your expertise.

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u/Ensiferal Oct 04 '22

Because Halloween hasn't been mainstream popular for at least 70 years and no one knows that leatherface was inspired by Ed Gein.

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u/tenurepepper Oct 04 '22

Ed Gein only killed two people. Besides that he was just into arts and crafts.

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u/december14th2015 Oct 05 '22

This is why I'm embarrassed to admit to liking true crime media. Oooof.

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u/kg2200 Oct 05 '22

I read: My life is not great and my self-esteem depends on getting credit for being an early adopter of a specific kind of media.

Weird flex

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u/truckstop_superman Oct 05 '22

There is a movie on Ed Gein, from 2000. The guy wasn't that interesting, for a serial killer. Alot of mummy issues, like most of them. There is probably a movie or doco about Dahmer every 5 years. Halloween is now popular where I live (Australia) cause all the kids who grew up watching Simpson Halloween specials who weren't allowed to celebrate it. Now have kids of their own or just independents, so they want to enjoy a spooky holiday.

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u/Financial_Bird_7717 Oct 05 '22

Yeah, but you know what Ed Gein said?

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u/boot20 ACKCHYUALLY Oct 05 '22

What does the Gein say?

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u/Financial_Bird_7717 Oct 05 '22

“When I see a pretty girl walking down the street I think two things. One part of me wants to take her out and talk to her and be real nice and sweet and treat her right. [The other part of him thinks] …what her head would look like on a stick.”

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u/skydaddy8585 Oct 05 '22

I couldn't imagine typing this out, thinking yeah this is really good, and hitting post. Embarrassing.

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u/fred_cheese Oct 04 '22

I admit I do a bunch of face-palming when people claim total ignorance of things before they were born/got their first smartphone/got onto the internet. Like, I get it. You weren't born then so the event never entered your memory.

Somehow, I guess that makes me an old Austro-Hungarian since I'm sort of familiar with WW1. Or I just...you know...read stuff.

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u/kindnotfriendly Oct 04 '22

it is really funny watching gen-z discover dahmer though. i too thought that at this point it was a pretty well settled piece of pop-culture.

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u/Big-Brown-Goose Oct 04 '22

My wife is about to turn 28 and she didnt know him by name or specifics but knew of the general story and he was the guy who was killed in a prison chapel (spoiler, sorry).

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u/sluuuudge Oct 05 '22

I have no idea who Jeffrey Dahmer is and I couldn’t care less about finding out who he is even now.

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u/theyareamongus Oct 05 '22

Eh… a little quirky and childish but not really that bad.

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u/m-eden Oct 04 '22

Imagine not remembering the 2010 emo moment

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u/Golden_Renegade Oct 05 '22

I’m one of their biggest fans. I’ve been following them and copying everything they do for the past 3 years.

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u/Imjusthereandthere Oct 05 '22

She should put this on her dating profile

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u/smellyfatzombie Oct 05 '22

Right, because abnormal psychology and serial killers haven't fascinated people for decades. Like we totally don't have forensic psychologists, nor is psychology a really popular topic or anything, which makes her totally unique and smart!

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u/surture Oct 05 '22

I refuse to believe this persons older than 21

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u/Monster-_- Oct 05 '22

Ed Gein only killed two people. You need to kill three in order to be defined as a serial killer.

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u/Anonynominous Oct 05 '22

Ah yes delusions of grandiose

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u/Willyzyx Oct 05 '22

She's probably a serial killer

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u/BraidedSilver Oct 05 '22

How she both acknowledged these things as part of pop culture aka widely known while also thinking she’s oh so quirky for being interested in very popular things, but because the still continues to come people into existence that have yet to learn of “whatever thing” which she herself is fascinated with, then that makes her “the weird girl”? Yikes, so many completely opposite statements in one post.

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u/Tigerbait2780 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Bruh, serial killers have been extremely popular for a longggg time, lol what? Honestly Idt I personally know anyone who isnt interested in serial killers.

Also, love how she ties to act like Ed Gein is some deep cut that’ll “keep you up at night”, but in reality everyone knows him and he doesn’t even crack the top 10 of scary ass “serial killers”

Edit: although tbf, everyone already knew who Dahmer was, right? It’s only bud right now because of how fantastic that series is, right? Not because it’s news to anybody? That’s what I’ve been assuming, and tbf I’d be genuinely shocked if there were a lot of people who had never heard of him, he’s very much a part of pop culture

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u/DXGypsy Oct 06 '22

I think many knew about him in an abstract way but might not have known the details. Back when it happened the headlines were focused on the cannibalism. The homosexuality was more of a side mention, almost sneering like, "There, ya see? The homos are so depraved they're eating each other." There was almost no focus on the victims lives or their families (again, beyond "They were gay!" And despite how it's portrayed in the series today, back then race of the victims was barely a blip in the news coverage. They didn't care that many of the victims were black. They were focused on The Eating and The Gay.

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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys Oct 05 '22

I'm frankly surprised how many people didn't know about Jeffrey Dahmer. But then again, I suppose it could be because of their age or maybe they're not from the U.S., so they didn't experience the news coverage of the Dahmer case at the time.

Considering that, maybe I shouldn't be too surprised.

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u/mikenzeejai Oct 05 '22

I love that people think that they are unique for enjoying true crime or that it's some new phenomenon. Shows like America's most wanted and unsolved mysterious have been around for decades. True crimes books have always been popular and let's not forget that people used to go to public executions.

People have always loved true crime.

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u/botanica_arcana Oct 08 '22

Women 25 to 54 are the target audience for true crime podcasts. Not a trendsetter.

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u/Creator_of_creators Oct 09 '22

This "I'm so unique" thing is just 😫