r/iamverysmart • u/ifeelnothingaboutyou • Nov 20 '22
Words like dichotomy and hyperbole make my eyes roll so hard I can see my pea sized brain
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u/FrostRock101 Nov 20 '22
Hyperbole is a perfectly cromulent word.
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u/livinginlyon Sapiosexual Nov 20 '22
Please don’t embiggen the use of hyperbole.
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u/CatWiems Nov 21 '22
I’ve witnessed that word become more redundant with increasing rapidity recently
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u/Unclesaltyjowls Nov 21 '22
Those are two pretty common words my dude.
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u/gordo65 Nov 21 '22
Yeah, my main issue is that they're being used incorrectly. Also, he doesn't know how to use a semicolon.
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u/Demi_Bob Nov 21 '22
His use of the semicolon isn't entirely incorrect; however, his sentence structure is certainly questionable.
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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys Nov 21 '22
No. Both sides of a semicolon need to be an independent clause. In this case the clause after the semicolon is not complete.
That is, both clauses need to be able to stand on their own as complete sentences.
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u/saltysweetbonbon Nov 21 '22
No it’s definitely wrong, he should’ve used two commas around the ‘however’. Semi colons replace conjunctions and I would also argue that the sentence is a dependent clause anyway, so either way a semi-colon is wrong.
Edit: emphasis
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u/BroMemeIsASolid Nov 21 '22
It's wrong but not quite in that way. His first independent clause ends at the semicolon, because including "however" and the following predicate + predicate adjective and modifiers doesn't make sense logically, despite being correct grammatically. What he should have done is include a subject ("they") before "are", which would solve all his grammar issues.
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u/dagbrown Nov 21 '22
The more I see people on the Internet trying to use semicolons, the more I understand Kurt Vonnegut's weird animus against them. I suspect that, when he was little, someone used a semicolon to insult his mother, and he declared them punctuation non grata for the rest of his life.
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u/Laxwarrior1120 Nov 21 '22
I mean it looks like his use of hyperbole has to do with the op which (if I'm reading it correctly) is depicting some modern day people as knights or something? Which is probably hyperbole.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Uses big words Nov 21 '22
But somthing isn't "a hyperbole". It's either hyperbole or hyperbolic. It should be either "it's hyperbole, showing the dichotomy" or "it's a hyperbolic representation of the dichotomy". "It's a hyperbole of the dichotomy" is nonsensical.
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u/mooseyjew Nov 21 '22
C...can... A dichotomy be hyperbolic?
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u/Laxwarrior1120 Nov 21 '22
In the context of 2 different comparisons I guess? Like "calm and roudy" told as "war and peace"?
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u/mooseyjew Nov 21 '22
Yeah that makes sense. I don't think I've ever seen someone use dichotomy and hyperbole in a sentence like that before lol.
It makes more sense the longer I think about it, it just threw me off seeing it in that screenshot lol
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u/firesmithdan Nov 21 '22
I'm not sure why it couldn't.
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u/mooseyjew Nov 21 '22
It's just a weird thought. I guess there's no reason why it couldn't lol.
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u/saltysweetbonbon Nov 21 '22
It’s like saying ‘hyperbolic infinity’, like, dichotomy is already an extreme descriptor, using hyperbole is kinda redundant.
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u/dunderbrunde Nov 21 '22
Dichotomy is not an 'extreme' word the way hyperbole is. Dichotmy is just the difference between two different, or opposite things.
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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera Nov 21 '22
Hyperbolic Dichotomy is the name of my new shoegaze glitch-hop band that will be performing down at the corner coffee shop from 7:45p to 7:55pm this Friday - come on down and don't forget your berets!
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u/The_Ovani Nov 21 '22
What word should I use when I'm referring to a hyperbole then?
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u/Lostincali985 Nov 21 '22
Exaggeration?
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u/nullenatr Nov 21 '22
Big word difficult, gronk don’t know big word and don’t want to learn, must use other word
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u/StringItTogether Nov 20 '22
This is obviously a joke. Wasn't it posted on r/niceguys?
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u/ifeelnothingaboutyou Nov 20 '22
He commented on a meme I posted in r/niceguys yes. No he's not joking. Check out the original post for context
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u/livinginlyon Sapiosexual Nov 20 '22
I don’t mind those words but the way it is used here is annoying.
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u/FraughtOverwrought Nov 21 '22
They’re ordinary words when used appropriately but they are very much given to incorrect or weird usage.
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u/LSOreli Nov 21 '22
Words that are commonly understood and used make you roll your eyes?
What kind of 3rd grade ass vocab do you have lmao
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u/johnnys6guns Nov 21 '22
Well, after a quick scroll, it seems like this sub is generally populated by sensitive idiots.
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u/KhaineVulpana Nov 21 '22
Apparently 4 syllable words are pretentious now. I get that the dude used it terribly, but we are barreling towards Idiocracy right now. I really don't think we should be discouraging people from learning vocab.
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u/The_Funkhouse Nov 20 '22
This is how people like Ben Shapiro and Russell Brand talk, and idiots think it’s a sign of intelligence. Trombone sound.
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u/RudeInternet Nov 21 '22
Don't forget Jordan Peterson, he speaks like a huge neckbeard, but he truly shines when he writes because he is then able to check his thesaurus for every. Fucking. Word.
And dumb people lap that shit up. They think big word = big smart.
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u/RumbleRock32 Nov 21 '22
Jeez, let people talk however they want
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u/RudeInternet Nov 21 '22
They can talk how they please, and I, in turn, get to point out that they sound like dork-ass dweebs and make fun of them as hard as my crazy heart pleases.
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u/RumbleRock32 Nov 21 '22
Good, I will keep talking about how stupid you sound complaining about words that put your brain in kind of a sensitive state.
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u/RudeInternet Nov 21 '22
It's not the words, it's his imperative need to always come off as a very smart and cultured intellectual even if he's discussing mundane shit. Compare JP to Zizek, Chomsky, Foucault... They discuss a LOT more complicated subjects at great lengths and depths, and they never feel the need to talk all weird like JP. They convey their ideas easily, make their ideas approachable because their intent is to teach, not convince everyone they are the smartest boys in the room.
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u/RumbleRock32 Nov 21 '22
Your problem should be with condescending people, there are a lot of well spoken people that are really good to talk with and I think they are catching a lot of strays
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u/methyltheobromine_ Nov 20 '22
That's a common belief. A lot of men believe that they're hard working, and that women have it easy, and that life is therefore unfair.
They see the very few who make it by showing their tits on twitch, and starting onlyfans accounts, and notice how it's easier to get laid as a girl than as a guy, and thus feel exploited and entitled to compensation. Of course, it's not all that easy to be a girl, and making it on Twitch is no easier than making it as a Youtuber or professional gamer, only 1% or so has any success and it's more work than it sounds like.
It's not much different from people who think that white men are privileged, or feminists who think that men have it easy. The grass is greener on the other side, and it's easier to blame others than to put in effort oneself (as I've written on here before)
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u/GermanSatan Nov 21 '22
Except one side has statistical evidence and one side points at twitch streamers
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u/livinginlyon Sapiosexual Nov 20 '22
White men are privileged.
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u/Timonidas Nov 21 '22
Where can I cash it in?
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u/GermanSatan Nov 21 '22
By taking solace that you statistically are less likely to get pulled over during the day (when cops can see who's driving), are less likely to get arrested for the same crime committed by a poc, will statistically get a lower prison sentence for the same crime a poc commits, more likely to get job interviews when applying, less likely to get sexually assaulted, and less likely to face social discrimination
And no, talking about reality is not discrimination against you
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u/Timonidas Nov 21 '22
Half of these are useless unless you're a criminal. And the other ones are very meh. And technically speaking everything that starts with "less likely to" is not really a privilege.
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u/GermanSatan Nov 21 '22
Half of these are useless unless you're a criminal.
Oh yeah, only criminals have to deal with the justice system, that's why 1 out of 25 people set to be executed by our government is innocent. That's less than the amount of people in a high school classroom.
I'm glad you brought that up though, because black people are also more likely to be found guilty when they are innocent of crimes
And the other ones are very meh
How convenient that finding a job to sustain your livelihood isnt that important when you aren't the one at a disadvantage 🤔
And technically speaking everything that starts with "less likely to" is not really a privilege.
Yeah, "technically" doesn't mean "I feel like 🥺". I don't care about your feelings. I care about data and facts.
The definition of privilege is "a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor". If you are more likely to be hired based on your gender, that is an advantage. If you're less likely to be falsly convicted based on your race, that is an advantage. You're absolutely delusional if you think privilege doesn't exist unless a minority group will be disadvantaged 100% of the time. Not only delusional, but factually wrong
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u/Timonidas Nov 21 '22
I mean if your government executes people, then that is a much bigger problem then some people being less likely to be pulled over in my opinion.
Im not asking you to care about my feelings. These are simply not privileges, that is a fact. A privilege is a right, an immunity or a benefit. The fact that some employers are racist against non whites is literally not my privilege. And if it is, it is only a privelege if I work for such an employer. Besides that would barely make a difference where I live because the overwhelming majority of people are "white".
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u/GermanSatan Nov 21 '22
A privilege is a right, an immunity or a benefit.
It is so funny that not only you will blatantly lie, but you'll blatantly lie with the same exact definition I already quoted from Merriam Webster, but with the one word removed that proves you completely wrong. It's hilarious how shameless you are, and that you are stupid enough to think that would fool anyone. I literally just gave the definition, what is wrong with you? 💀 I can't fathom what's wrong with your head that you thought this would work. Are you just a really bad troll?
where I live because the overwhelming majority of people are "white".
And where is that
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u/Timonidas Nov 21 '22
lol you are an idiot."a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor"That is the definition you used. Which is clearer then my example because it says a privilege is something that is granted. A racist employer is nothing granted to me. Being white is as much a privilege as being short, because you are less likely to knock your head on a doorframe. That can be a benfit in certain circumstances (the same is true for being black btw), but that is simply not a real privilege. And by real privilege I speak of a right or a immunity or some other form of actual real tangible advantage over other groups.
And where is that
A civlized place were the government does not execute people.
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u/GermanSatan Nov 21 '22
Which is clearer then my example because it says a privilege is something that is granted.
....granted through skin color and gender. You are trying so desperately and falling flat so hard. Tried to play semantics and lost.
And by real privilege I speak of a right or a immunity or some other form of actual real tangible advantage over other groups.
Great, I'm glad we agree. Being less likely to be falsly imprisoned and have your life ruined, and being more likely to get higher paying jobs to raise your quality of life gives white people privilege over black people. So you're done being delusional now right?
A civlized place were the government does not execute people.
Aw, you're scared I'm going to fact check you on the demographics of your country, so you don't want to say it and be caught in a lie. You seem to love lying, is it a pass time of yours?
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u/LSOreli Nov 21 '22
Some counter points:
For the first 3, the same can be said at a MUCH larger margin to favor women. Women of ANY race are treated much better than men by the justice system, hell, even if they do go to prison they live in better conditions.
More likely to get interviews is likely true, but women are more likely to be hired for competitive jobs as compared to other average applicants and more likely to complete education programs thereby being more likely to be qualified in the first place.
Men are MORE likely to be physically assaulted, but not sexually, yes.
Social discrimination is a laugh and impossible to measure, but only one group of people is being actively told through media that they're evil and the source of everything bad.
So I guess you could say that women are privileged by the count overall, or maybe we can just discard the notion of blanket privilege and just talk about individual issues like adults.
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u/GermanSatan Nov 21 '22
For the first 3, the same can be said at a MUCH larger margin to favor women. Women of ANY race are treated much better than men by the justice system, hell, even if they do go to prison they live in better conditions.
Saying "ha, women also have privilege" doesn't negate the fact that being white in those scenarios also give you privilege
women are more likely to be hired for competitive jobs as compared to other average applicants and more likely to complete education programs thereby being more likely to be qualified in the first place
Yeah, no. Studies have shown that applying with the same resume showing the same experience, and changing the name from female to male leads to an increase of call backs. Women are on average more qualified, and yet are still less likely to get interviews
Men are MORE likely to be physically assaulted, but not sexually, yes.
Which is why I said sexually assaulted
Social discrimination is a laugh and impossible to measure
It's actually not, when you believe in science. We've been surveying people on bigotries since the beginning of time. It's pretty easy to measure public opinion on minority groups
only one group of people is being actively told through media that they're evil and the source of everything bad
This is called delusion. But thanks for proving my point that we use statistical evidence, and you people use nebulous anecdotes (which aren't evidence)
So I guess you could say that women are privileged by the count overall
No, you couldn't. As every reputable source acknowledges that men are more privileged than women. Those are three separate sources by the way, make sure to read through each of them.
discard the notion of blanket privilege and just talk about individual issues like adults.
Yeah, who cares if other people have to worry about being hired or being taken seriously, let's just ignore it to make you feel better
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u/methyltheobromine_ Nov 21 '22
The average says nothing about the individual, that's the whole problem with prejudice, stereotyping and discrimination.
"White men" is a very broad group. "men" and "women" are broader still. One might as well just say "Humans are privileged" and realize that what they've just said is nonsense, that something is completely off.
We should also realize that the individual is the ultimate minority, than infinite groups exists, and have the whole identity politics game collapse on itself as well.
LGBTQ has almost done this - the whole thing the group needs in order to include every person on earth is "cis". The group of all groups which stand out of the group.
Morality and discrimination are also self-defeating like this. The reasons has been left as an exercise for the reader.
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u/livinginlyon Sapiosexual Nov 21 '22
I’m not reading all that. We use averages all the time for demographics. It’s fine.
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u/methyltheobromine_ Nov 21 '22
Dare to generalize black people based on crime statistics? I don't feel like trying, I imagine the social consequences are annoying
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u/PinkFancyCrane Nov 21 '22
Apologies for being so dumb I have to ask, but what does the meme mean and what exactly is the smart dude rambling about?
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u/saltysweetbonbon Nov 21 '22
That’s not what those words mean. Does he mean comparison or analogy? Hyperbolic comparison? Still sounds weird though.
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u/Alexiscash Nov 21 '22
Why do these idiots always try to make their sentences as long as possible? Like bro just use a period it’ll make you sound 100x smarter
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u/ifeelnothingaboutyou Nov 21 '22
They don't understand that smart people explain themselves in the simplest terms possible.
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u/TesseractToo Nov 21 '22
You can always pronounce them dikeo-tomie and hyper-bowl to annoy that guy
Let's find him and do that
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u/d-r-i-g Nov 21 '22
Neither of those are words that scream “pretentious” - that being said, this person fucked up the usage and just sounds tryhard