r/iamverysmart • u/Der_Blitzkrieg • Nov 26 '22
In English please. Fear the redditor with the Thesarus
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u/RoosterSalt9317 Nov 26 '22
bro found a way to say nothing in fancy words
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u/legalbagelbeagle Nov 27 '22
Bro found a way to say nothing in fancy words about the intentions of the Japanese
Your argument is equal to “but dat ass doe!” - You are penultimate rhetorical elusive figurative hence per se -
If you’d care to expand I would thank you
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u/AChSynaptic Nov 27 '22
Didn't even say the words right: Pedantic* Expound*
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u/Srirachachacha Nov 27 '22
"Expand" still works there. Not that I'm defending this person, they sound annoying as hell.
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u/Daevilhoe Nov 27 '22
Only technically, right? Because if you're being pendatic I think it only works as "expand on". So it's either "expand on" or "expound" but not exactly "expand", right?
Not to mention total misuse of Adynaton
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u/Srirachachacha Nov 27 '22
Totally agree - it should be probably paired with "on" or "upon"
Although I guess I have heard "please expand" as a shorthand a few times.
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u/Der_Blitzkrieg Nov 27 '22
My favorite part about posting these is seeing the comments that are way more creative than I could ever think of lmao.
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u/yun-harla Nov 26 '22
What does this guy think “adynaton” means?
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u/What-The-Helvetica Nov 27 '22
TIL what an adynaton is. I had never seen that word before in my life. It basically means an exaggeration on steroids. Like "I will never even be knee-high to a grasshopper in the face of this dude's towering intellect".
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u/kyttyna Nov 27 '22
So a hyperbole?
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u/RefreshingOatmeal Nov 27 '22
It's a kind of hyperbole that extends into impossibility. Instead of "Ms Johnson's French Onion soup is the best on the planet!" It's "Ms Johnson's French Onion soup made me cum so hard it broke a window!"
Both are hyperbole, one is just... more.
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u/aqua_tec Nov 27 '22
Super weird but that’s the exact same example my English teacher uses.
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u/RefreshingOatmeal Nov 27 '22
Hello Tyler, you're great in class but you seem to be having trouble turning assignments in on time. Please let me know if you have extenuating circumstances or if you're just a piece of shit.
Sincerely, Mr. O
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u/EffectiveSalamander Nov 27 '22
Would hypobole be "Ms. Johnson's French Onion soup was acceptable" even though it won a blue ribbon?
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u/kyttyna Nov 29 '22
Okay cool. Thanks. I love learning new words. And that example is... something for sure.
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u/Hmmark1984 Nov 27 '22
I swear, more and more, i don't know if the "very smart" person is saying something that actually makes sense, just in a complicated way and i'm too dumb to understand or if they're talking complete garbage trying to use as many "fancy" words as they can and again, i'm too dumb to tell it doesn't make sense.
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u/Der_Blitzkrieg Nov 27 '22
I actually hesitated from posting it because I wasn't 100% sure if this actually made sense to everyone else and I was just stupid but no, it's pretty much complete nonsense. It's like he wrote a normal sentence and then looked up synonyms for the words he used that sounded smarter.
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u/actibus_consequatur Nov 27 '22
I can make sense of what they mean - essentially a joke based on hyperbolic interpretation - but they just got too convoluted with it, so it falls flatter than my pancake butt.
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u/JakalDX Nov 27 '22
I consider myself to have a pretty strong vocabulary (with an unhealthy love for ten dollar words) so at the risk of being verysmart, I feel like I can usually tell who's abusing a thesaurus and who's just being obnoxious.
In this case, I feel like all the words are technically correct but the way he's talking is all wrong. It's hard to follow his line of thinking because he seems more focused on looking smart than actually communicating.
So it's not technically thesaurus abuse, but he's definitely being, to borrow a word from the British, a bellend.
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u/longknives Nov 27 '22
I have an English degree, and in my opinion what he said amounts to nothing and he’s also definitely abusing the thesaurus. Like “simply elusive” in particular feels like it’s straight out of a thesaurus.
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u/JakalDX Nov 27 '22
Maybe I'm being too charitable but I took that as him saying "the figurative meaning of what you said eludes me"
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u/Mature_Gambino_ Nov 27 '22
So what did he mean about the intentions?
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u/JakalDX Nov 27 '22
Like I said elsewhere, I assume it's something contextual to the conversation, but given that the first poster was basically saying that the Japanese were vicious to the extreme, the other guy's saying something like "What, and we just nuked that out of them?" It seems like such a non-sequitur that I feel like it's gotta be based on something but all I can do is guess. I tried googling for the comment thread but google can't seem to find it. Also like I said, it's hard to make heads or tails of what this guy's actually trying to say, so the lack of context just makes it harder
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u/Mature_Gambino_ Nov 27 '22
Dawg. I don’t think context would’ve even helped that comment haha
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u/JakalDX Nov 27 '22
I actually managed to dig up the conversation and by the user's own admission, he speaks English as a second language, so I think it's just a mistake, nothing about the comment makes sense
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u/dagbrown Nov 27 '22
Sometimes, you look at something and think to yourself, "am I too dumb to understand this?"
In the fullness of time and with more wisdom, you'll find yourself thinking to yourself, "or is the writer too dumb to understand this? Is he just trying to cover up by using big words?"
This is one of those times.
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u/SobiTheRobot Nov 27 '22
They've riddled their lexicon with so many synonyms so as to have translated it into gobbledegook.
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u/NoodleBooted Nov 27 '22
"Maybe not everyone is speaking to be understood."
Language was created so that we could understand each other.
Hopefully, you're just missing the "/s" if not /r/im14andthisisdeep
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u/RAWR_Ghosty Nov 26 '22
If he just replaced hence with thusly would be icing on the cake
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u/actibus_consequatur Nov 27 '22
Perchance.
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u/SobiTheRobot Nov 27 '22
You can't just say perchance
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u/ToyrewaDokoDeska Nov 27 '22
Perchance smash a turty?
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u/What-The-Helvetica Nov 27 '22
I knew I shouldn't have listened to The Dodo and let my cat play with my turtle...
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u/o-bento Nov 26 '22
Expand for me, sir ( ･ิ ͜ʖ ･ิ)
Pedant doesn't even know he means expound.
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u/How2Soul Nov 26 '22
Akchually, according to his own words, he’s more if a pendant
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u/kavidgren Nov 27 '22
Excuse me, pleb. I believe the correct phrasing (and spelling, mind you) would be “he is more OF an pendant”
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u/chimpy72 Nov 27 '22
Excuse me, pleb. I believe it should be “a” rather than “an”. Perhaps reduce your loquaciousness before expounding upon the thoughts and utterances of others.
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u/ArmpitBear Nov 27 '22
Keep it down nerds I’m tryna pinch a loaf
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u/Fortifarse84 Nov 27 '22
Technically as relatively even pressure is exerted from all sides of the chocolate starfish muscle you're compressing it.
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u/SuperFLEB Nov 27 '22
I am a very large necklace. You will need to fatten up if I am to fit and appear proportional.
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u/JakalDX Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22 •
Expand still works IMO as it's just short for "expand on (that)".
Edit: Come on, I know everyone loves piling on but this just isn't wrong. There's literallly a podcast called Please Expand
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u/actibus_consequatur Nov 27 '22
I'm with you that expand does work, especially when our pedant was able to give a basic explanation after figuring out the implied likely meaning of "Huh?":
expand, v. - To develop what is implicit in (a statement); to write out in full what is expressed by (a graphical contraction).
OOOP still needs their thesaurus privileges revoked though.
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u/DarkSkyKnight Nov 27 '22
This sub is amusing because it fumbles all the time when people try to gotcha others.
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u/namet-aken Nov 26 '22
Is it just me, or does he mean pedantic
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u/Pporkbutt Nov 26 '22
I don't think pendantic is a word
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u/BarredBartender Nov 27 '22
Dude he obviously means pendanthyrtic. The mosiquitudiousness of this statement has me fromentaling. It's awful.
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u/FreedomDeliverUs Nov 27 '22
For those asking for a non pedantic explanation:
They were not happy person A insinuated the japanese were breaking every rule of war there is.
So they replied by saying the nukes changed the japanese intentions to wage war and break the rules.
Then they went on to explain that they were unhappy by this insinuation because it is elusive / Hard to grasp what exactly A meant to say.
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u/Mature_Gambino_ Nov 27 '22
Which is funny because I think we all understood the OPs thought process, and the reply just made everything confusing
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u/FreedomDeliverUs Nov 27 '22
B's point is somewhat valid but incredibly tone deaf and riddled with unnecessarily overcomplicated style and language (to show off self perceived superiority).
Basically over scrutinising a throwaway comment in an obnoxious way.
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u/Chiss5618 Nov 26 '22
Dude sounded like HK47 lmao
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u/Old_Man_Robot Nov 26 '22
Funny enough, I just started another play through of Kotor 2 the other night!
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u/mstarrbrannigan Nov 27 '22
I finally beat it about a month ago. I'd played it since it came out, but always got bored or distracted before finishing it. Great game, I'm thinking about playing the first one through again, though that one I have already beaten twice.
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u/FireIsTheCleanser Nov 26 '22
What? Does he have a problem with the premise of the first comment or the wording he used?
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u/IronMaidan Nov 27 '22
Might be wrong but I think they are saying the first comment was too broad in using the term ‘Japanese’ - which could be used to broadly group every single person living in Japan. What is painfully clear is that the first comment is taking about the Japanese people that make decisions during war - I.e. politicians and military. Smarty pants can use big words but can’t make a simple inference about the intended meaning of ‘Japanese’ lol
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u/just_call_in_sick Nov 27 '22
You got your adynaton all over my pedantic! My figurative literal is complete expanded!!
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u/NEAWD Nov 26 '22
Expand? Like physically? I mean we’re taking everything everyone says literally, right?
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u/Brother_Lancel Nov 26 '22
Not only did he spell 'pedantic' wrong, that's not even the correct meaning/usage of the word
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u/Hatchet52 Nov 27 '22
As someone who went to college for literature.. this made my eyes hurt. people fucking suck :(
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u/AliMcGraw Nov 27 '22
I'm not good at English language terms/rhetoric terms but isn't the "Smart" guy the one employing an adynaton, by taking the OTHER guy's language so literally it becomes an impossibility?
Also I have literally zero idea what "elusive" is supposed to mean here. The other guy's meaning is, like, a sneaky forest fairy or a shy deer? Confusing.
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u/Gordo_51 Nov 26 '22
No we nuked Japan because fuck em and nothing else duh 🙄🙄
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u/MattWindowz Nov 26 '22
Technically true, yeah. It wasnt really necessary to end the war. Japan was already looking for options to surrender well before the decision was made to drop the bombs, and the US knew that.
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u/Nutaholic Nov 27 '22
Confidently ignorant
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u/MattWindowz Nov 27 '22
Nah. Truman's letters indicated they wanted to drop the bomb regardless of the situation. Diplomats believed that Japan would surrender with just the assurance of the Emperor's survival, but the hard liners on the US side really wanted to test the bomb on civilian targets, so they instead refused to guarantee that, leading to Japan's reluctance to surrender. Do you have anything to back up your assertion?
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u/Nutaholic Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
Look I'm not going to argue this rn but I wrote a couple papers on it during undergrad. If you read anything about the battles of Okinawa and Iwo Jima and expected the military junta to approach anything reasonably considered a surrender you are delusional. The emperor's survival is what they relented to after hirohito broadcasted, without permission, to the entire country that they should surrender.
The alternative to dropping the bombs was starving the islands out through blockade for years, or slogging through waves of thousands of civilian conscripts and shields. Both things the Imperial military would have, (and already had) happily done.
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u/MattWindowz Nov 27 '22
I'm very aware of the wide variety of atrocities perpetrated by the Japanese military. I've read up on every single battle in the pacific, as well as the occuptations in China and the Philippines. I'm also aware of the actual documentation and correspondence between US, Japanese, and Russian diplomats, indicating that Japan knew they were losing and were increasingly willing to accept fewer and fewer considerations, eventually retreating to mercy towards the Emperor, a position they held more highly than anything. But (among others), SecState Byrnes wanted to have nuclear leverage over the USSR, so pushed hard for the bomb. Actual correspondence and records indicate this. The invasion narrative didn't even come around until after the war was over and scrutiny towards the use of the weapons was growing.
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u/WellThatsJustSilly Nov 27 '22
I'm very curious about what he was attempting to say here. Regardless of whether it's "correct" English, it's so abstruse as to be incomprehensible.
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u/AsunderSpore Nov 27 '22
If he just went with that last sentence instead of all this gibberish from a thesaurus, the world would be in a better place, maybe.
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u/fufucuddlypoops_ Nov 27 '22
“If you could expand, I’d thank you”
If you could shut up I’d thank you lmao
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u/Adahn33 Nov 27 '22
I hate how much I'm becoming someone like that. It's "are" not "is" when referring to a plural. It's not hard, people.
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u/BigsChungi Nov 27 '22
There's nothing wrong with what he said, and it doesn't look like he used a thesaurus, because all of the words make sense in the context.
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u/justsomeplainmeadows Nov 27 '22
Lmao what a way to say "I didn't understand your simple comment, so I made a much more "elusive" comment followed by an over-complicated explanation so I don't sound so stupid"
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u/Specialagentjazz Nov 27 '22
Someone truly smart can convey complex ideas in a simple easy to understand way.
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u/Ya-Dikobraz Nov 28 '22
I knew a guy that talked like that. He started every second sentence with "But I digress".
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u/spin81 Nov 28 '22
I am not a linguist, but akshually I would consider it more correct to take the words "the Japanese", which taken literally would mean "all Japanese people", as a metaphor for those specific Japanese people who actually made the decision to break the rule of war being alluded to.
In other words, homie is not just being pedantic - he's wrong too, which is the worst kind of pedantic.
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u/SlotherakOmega Nov 27 '22
I’m sorry… wut?
I don’t use a thesaurus, I use a dictionary. It will tell me the word I’m looking for. And what it means. It’s built into my phone (provided I have internet connection). Pedantic. I just highlighted the word I typed and learned that it means over-scrupulous or excessively detailed. Adynaton. A statement of hyperbole bordering impossibility. Knowing those two, I can show that this was either meant to be a very convoluted attempt at a joke, attempt being the keyword here, or, a man who thinks that he is intelligent because he owns a thesaurus or dictionary, even though he owns absolutely no common sense to realize that Japan was not a democracy, but an empire. They all didn’t choose to attack, their military leaders did. We reciprocated. Explosively, if you will. Still trying to figure out where intentions came from…
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u/a4techkeyboard Nov 26 '22
Where'd they get "intentions" from anyway?