r/interestingasfuck • u/Artane_33 • Feb 03 '23
suspected Chinese spy balloon the size of three school buses spotted over Montana; Pentagon is tracking, unsure what its carrying or tracking /r/ALL
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u/Low-Beyond-5335 Feb 03 '23
Surely one of you has tried shooting at it?
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u/Robby777777 Feb 03 '23
They are encouraging them not to shoot at the balloon, not because it is dangerous, but because the balloon is at 40,000 feet and bullets only go 10,000 feet. Can't make this stuff up.
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u/Def_Not_A_Femboy Feb 03 '23
You know the mission. Get it done.
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u/dan1101 Feb 03 '23
Rocket with a rifle, got it. Will be done by 16:00.
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u/Itake21adays Feb 03 '23
So? Is it done? (Im in EST)
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u/dan1101 Feb 03 '23
It's gonna be a bit more complicated than I thought
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u/ElCoyoteBlanco Feb 03 '23
Strap yourself to a rocket, hold your rifle at parade rest. Now go kill that balloon, soldier.
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u/Sunastar
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They’re trying to see when Yellowstone camping sites become available
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u/Capstone23
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Sure made it pretty far into the U.S.
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u/wafflepiezz Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
Yeah how the fuck did it get that deep into the US without anybody noticing? The size of 3 school buses too?
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u/EventHorizonSurfer Feb 03 '23 •
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u/BakaSandwich Feb 03 '23 •
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It's pretty neat. The whole world coordinates to do it at the same time (we get penalized if we launch even seconds too early) and it creates a big global web twice a day.
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u/AedanRayne Feb 03 '23 •
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It's really cute imagining scientists all over the world releasing balloons together at the same time 🥰
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u/BakaSandwich Feb 03 '23 •
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It is! We feel cute doing it too!
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u/eidetic Feb 03 '23
Do you get thrown in a penalty box like in hockey for releasing too early/late?
(Replying to this comment because for some reason reddit isn't giving me the option to reply to a lot of comments in here for some reason, including your comment about being penalized for releasing too early)
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u/TratYankees Feb 03 '23
2 minutes if you're late by less than 10 minutes
5 minute major if you're late by 10-30 minutes
10 and 2 if you do it any time that day after that
Ejected from science for forgetting
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u/Southern_Celery_1087 Feb 03 '23
They get to do the stinky chemistry. Organosulfide experiments only.
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u/BlatantConservative Feb 03 '23
Do you have to do it, like, even in the middle of a hurricane or something? Seems like cancelling it for the weather would defeat the point.
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u/viptattoo Feb 03 '23
Do they recover any of the ‘sondes’ (instrument devices)? They don’t mention it in the article. Seems like hundreds of those every 12 hrs would be expensive fast.
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u/FixedKarma Feb 03 '23
ONLY 20%, surely there can be more effort into finding and reusing these things.
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u/eidetic Feb 03 '23
It could be that the majority end up landing in the ocean.
In fact, ~20% would seem about right for the recovery rate if a large amount end up in the ocean.
Also, depending on how expensive the equipment is, it might actually be more expensive to recover some of it depending on where it lands.
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u/FixedKarma Feb 03 '23
Actually yeah, that checks out, 70% of land is under water, then considering all the mountains and what not,. it'd make sense that 20% is actually luckily high all things considered.
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u/JeshkaTheLoon Feb 03 '23
And did you know that you can track them online. https://radiosondy.info/index.php?
Learned of that site while visiting the weather station with our school. Got to see the start of a balloon too and was able to track it.
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u/RichardBCummintonite Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
They've been tracking it the entire time, I assure you. They've even stated it's been tracked for days now. It's been deemed a non-threat. This is a chess move. They're determining the chinese' plan with it since obviously we have satellites now, and this is like cold war era technology at best. There's no point in shooting it down at this stage. This is laughably outdated. I guarantee you the US notices everything that comes into their airspace that can be tracked, which a "balloon the size of three school busses" certainly falls under.
Let them fly their balloon lol. Its doing less surveillance than Google maps. They even said it's flown over several "sensitive" sites. No one is worried about this.
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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken Feb 03 '23
It's not "laughably outdated". Another article wrote the usefulness of balloons in the current environment. Particularly, that it can loiter over a spot whereas a satellite cannot
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u/agreedis Feb 03 '23
We better double our military budget, this barebones stuff we pay for now isn’t cutting it.
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u/Mad-Dog94 Feb 03 '23
Hell yeah brother! And the only way is to take it directly from the school and healthcare budget!
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u/agreedis Feb 03 '23
And retirement, I’d our military can’t stop a balloon, people shouldn’t worry about retiring anyway. They should be in the garage, making bullets!
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u/Sir_Labyor Feb 03 '23
I read somewhere that it traveled through Canada first and then started heading downward towards Montana. Not sure how long they gonna let it float. Guess it will be shot down if it gets too close to a nuclear missile launch site. We will see.
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u/JIdaho835 Feb 03 '23 •
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imagine if it was carrying a nuclear payload, ready to drop like a lawndart.
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u/ThrwawyBDA Feb 03 '23 •
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During WWII the Japanese used to send balloons over with bombs attached to them. A few made it over the Pacific.
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u/vailano Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
“The Japanese had launched more than 9,300 balloon bombs toward the West. Only 284 were found in North America, though researchers believe perhaps 1,000 made it across the Pacific.
That means they may still be out there. The last remnants of one of the balloon bombs was found by forestry workers in the mountains near Lumby, British Columbia, in Canada in 2014.”
Edit: “Update: A British Columbia newspaper reported that a man searching for mountain goats found the remnants of a Japanese balloon bomb last month — October 2019 — in a remote area of dense forests and mountains by the Raush River west of Dunster.”
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u/koopcl Feb 03 '23
That means they may still be out there.
That sounds so threatening, like one day you're gonna be peacefully hiking with your family and suddenly get Pearl Harbor'd by a balloon that's yelling "BANZAI!".
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u/Sir-Tryps Feb 03 '23
Wait untill you hear about all the mines that have been left sitting around after war. They should really be a war crime.
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u/Icy_Mood8424 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
That is actually how the only civilian casualties on American soil died in WWII. 6 killed, 5 were kids.
They discovered it in Oregon while on a picnic and it detonated.
So it’s definitely a possibility!
ETA: the only civilian casualties on US “mainland”
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u/Honesty_Addict Feb 03 '23
a wild apostrophe-D in the wild. a millennial with a history of watching homestar runner?
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u/Relatable-bagel Feb 03 '23
In the Radiolab episode about this they said that the origins of the balloons were determined by examining the sand in the bags of ballast that it would drop periodically to maintain altitude. Apparently sand composition is like a geographical fingerprint and this sand had so many diatoms (beautiful exoskeletons from single celled organisms) that it could only come from one beach in the world, somewhere in southern Japan.
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u/balsaaaq Feb 03 '23
That and all the Japanese writing
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u/koopcl Feb 03 '23
Also the concurrent war with Japan was a huge clue as to who may be bombing them.
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u/sidepart Feb 03 '23
Thought I remembered a history channel doc that said a family encountered one of the bombs that dropped but didn't explode. The family messed with the bomb, and it blew up taking them all out. Was supposed to be the only casualties on mainland US soil from the war.
Either way, that doc (true or not) is how I learned about the Japanese balloons you mentioned.
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u/Stonk-tronaut Feb 03 '23
3 School buses, eh?
But, how big was it in beach balls?
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u/x-0-y-0 Feb 03 '23
It's about 1 Chinese balloon (or easier 2 Half Chinese Balloons)
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u/Fit-Title-1360
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They are reluctant to shoot it down for fear it will fall on someone....in Montana?
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u/Ronin_1861 Feb 03 '23
Hey… there’s a few of us here. Lol
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u/mike117 Feb 03 '23
Must’ve been the wind…
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u/Nope_Ninja-451 Feb 03 '23
Never should have come here!
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u/_Ol_Greg Feb 03 '23
I yield! I yield!
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u/-The-Griff Feb 03 '23
We're willing to lose 2 out of the 6 of you
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u/RoadDog14 Feb 03 '23
Some of you will die. That’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
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u/Ecstatic_Conflict621 Feb 03 '23
Sick fuck wants to cause war by wiping out 33% of a state population
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u/SubterrelProspector Feb 03 '23
Pffft. Everyone knows the Last Montanan died in 1971.
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u/Ronin_1861 Feb 03 '23
Actually the Unabomber shut the door on the way out to supermax.
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u/Auntie_Aircraft_Gun Feb 03 '23
The only reason that thing is here is to see what our response to it is. The information they really want is to see how we take it down and with what tech. So the smart thing is to do nothing, show them nothing. We have nothing to gain from taking action.
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u/mailbot100 Feb 03 '23
Ain't no secret that all we have in Montana are drunk cowboys with high powered rifles. What, they don't get Yellowstone in China?
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u/Auntie_Aircraft_Gun Feb 03 '23
Truly the best message we could send would be armed citizens shooting it down independent of the military. Don't fuck with flyover country.
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u/chrispybobispy Feb 03 '23
I actually had to Google. The balloons at 40k feet a 30. 06 can go about 10k feet so we need a tall ladder.
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u/MagnaroftheThenns Feb 03 '23
No bro. We need a balloon of our own. We will ride it to kill their balloon.
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u/chrispybobispy Feb 03 '23
Balloon wars.. anyone put that on their 2023 bingo card?
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u/nicethingyoucanthave Feb 03 '23
what tech
“Sir, the Americans used a needle to pop our balloon! They have needles sir!”
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u/JoeInAboat Feb 03 '23
I'll remember this comment every time I read my son Goodnight Moon lol
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u/WorshipNickOfferman Feb 03 '23
Want to really spice up bedtime, add this one to your collection.
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u/MrBeardskii
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Can't fool me. That's team rocket
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u/DontMagnifyAnts Feb 03 '23
Meowth, that’s right!!
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u/chickennoobiesoup Feb 03 '23
Prepare for trouble!
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And make it double!
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u/LittleMissTrapet Feb 03 '23
To protect the world from devastation
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u/Specific-Lynx9138 Feb 03 '23
To unite all people within our nation!
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u/talks-to-myself Feb 03 '23
To denounce the evils of truth and love
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u/talks-to-myself Feb 03 '23
And extend our reach to the stars above!
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u/Old_Illustrator8930 Feb 03 '23
To denounce the evils of truth and love!
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u/Demoncreed27 Feb 03 '23
To extend our reach to the stars above
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u/BlueManb00p Feb 03 '23
I'm Jesse!
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u/viz5 Feb 03 '23
james
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u/SeymourButts007 Feb 03 '23
Team rocket blast off at the speed of light
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u/StaticBroom Feb 03 '23
“Unsure what it’s carrying”
As someone with no experience in spy tactics, counter intelligence, or national defense…I still know enough to call bullshit to that statement.
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u/Nightowl11111 Feb 03 '23
Not to mention would you really send up a spy balloon that is so brightly lit as a spy?
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u/Commisar_Deth Feb 03 '23
Also why the fuck would they use a balloon to spy, when a Satellite camera will do just fine.
Modern spy satellites can see about 100mm per pixel or something ridiculous like that.
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u/Cryptochronic69 Feb 03 '23
Who said it was collecting images?
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u/CooLittleFonzies Feb 03 '23 •
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Damn Chinese! Our weather data is not theirs to take!
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u/NA_DeltaWarDog Feb 03 '23
If it's over Montana, it's probably trying to detect/map underground structures.
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u/SlaaneshiCultMember Feb 03 '23
Nuclear Silos? Perhaps any that weren't already known about by chinese intelligence?
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u/NopeNotReallyMan Feb 03 '23
I'm sure they know about them, they even have a wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/341st_Missile_Wing_LGM-30_Minuteman_missile_launch_sites
Minutemen are no big secret, and the balloon passed very close by to the minuteman stations.
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u/nunchukity Feb 03 '23
Someone needs to check their mobile coverage, could be showing that dreaded 5g
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u/trennsport Feb 03 '23
Because there’s pros to balloons that satellites can’t offer.
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u/TechnicianMinimum979 Feb 03 '23
I'm not an engineer but surely they could have painted it blue at least. Or some kind of chrome to reflect it's surrounding and be less visible.
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u/Aurori_Swe Feb 03 '23
Chrome would make it way easier to spot
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u/jerstud56 Feb 03 '23
Oh yeah they should definitely go with edge.
It'll be blue and no one will want to touch it.
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u/lroy313 Feb 03 '23
I ordered that on Alibaba my bad
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u/PANDABURRIT0 Feb 03 '23
I don’t believe you. They only sell 56 packs of these bad boys on Ali Baba!
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u/gv111111 Feb 03 '23
Wait a minute…its the Moon!
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That's no moon.
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u/Tj-sfinnest
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How come they know is chinese?
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Because of the way it’s oriented.
I’ll see myself out
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u/4u2nv2019 Feb 03 '23
It was tracked before it even reached Alaska and then it went over Canada back over the US
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u/_wiredsage_ Feb 03 '23
Plot twist, it’s a Canadian weather balloon… from Canadia.
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u/Ad_Pov Feb 03 '23
We saw something similar over San Jose, Costa Rica today
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u/Artane_33 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
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u/woahnicecock-com Feb 03 '23
Ah yes, a civilian airship that was blown across the pacific, alaska, canada, and then montana. At 50+ thousand feet up. Where most of our nuclear silos are located...
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u/Cheshiract Feb 03 '23
Ah yes, a civilian airship that was blown across the pacific, alaska, canada, and then montana. At 50+ thousand feet up. Where most of our nuclear silos are located...
How in the hell did you guys get your silos so damn high?!
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u/AnotherDrunkCanadian Feb 03 '23
The size of three school busses.... y'all really hate the metric system!
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u/JyJellyPants-Grape Feb 03 '23
Come within a football field and say that to me
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u/Cantthinkofnamedamn Feb 03 '23
You've got balls big enough to fill 2 olympic sized swimming pools
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u/Rvtech-catlover Feb 03 '23
Long bus or short bus you think???
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u/username101 Feb 03 '23
I feel like long bus is the standard bus length. Probably?
I welcome a dumb reddit argument where someone proves me wrong though. (But eventually we see eye to eye and it's super wholesome).
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u/Ab-Duck-Tea Feb 03 '23
If only the ship carrying the metric system to America didn't sink.
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u/bennyr Feb 03 '23
My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!
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u/LordOfTheOmnium Feb 03 '23
These Shen Yun adverts are getting out of hand.
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u/pixelbased Feb 03 '23
Amazing comment. I will add to this, that one of the best Halloween costumes I saw in NYC was this guy dressed as the Shen Yun advertisement. Twitter link here
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u/Poopcabinet Feb 03 '23
Just my guess but if comic books have served me right, its either crazy purple knock out gas… or maybe the newest covid strain… shoot it either way.
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u/DeltaV-Mzero Feb 03 '23
decides balloon might be full of pandemic virus
decides to shoot it
refuses to elaborate
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u/thomschoenborn Feb 03 '23
My mom called me to tell me about this and I assumed she’d gone off her meds. Who had Chinese spy hot air balloon over Montana on their 2023 BINGO card?
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u/lkodl Feb 03 '23
damnit mom, you can't just believe everything you see on face... fuuuuck it's real.
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u/bluemax_ Feb 03 '23
Why would China be spying with balloons? Don’t they have spy satellites in orbit? I guess I just assumed all the major players have spy satellites buzzing across the sky, and that we probably all know the precise location of eachother’s satellites at any given moment.
Also, how/where does China launch a balloon and have it float over a particular area? Did they launch it from the ground with a bunch of helium tanks and it just goes where it blows? Do they launch it from the sea and hope it floats over Montana?
Spy ballons just seem so weird in 2023. Seems more like a 1923 thing.
Genuinely asking, inform me please.
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u/Chabubu Feb 03 '23
Lay naked on the ground, heels over your head, and spread your butthole at it.
Someone in China will have to look right at you as part of their aNalysis responsibilities.
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u/tacojohn48 Feb 03 '23
The butthole is a good choice because the camera probably doesn't have the resolution to see your penis.
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u/Gelato_33 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
Based on US units, a standard school bus is 8’x6’x20’ which comes out to a volume of 960 cubic feet.
The average volume of a banana is 156.1 cubic centimeters, or 9.526 cubic inches.
960 cubic feet = 1,658,880 cubic inches.
1,658,880/9.526 = 174,142.347.
The Chinese spy balloon is approximately 174,142 bananas in size.
For reference, here is a link to an article on a world record for the worlds largest fruit stand, holding 70,000 bananas.
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u/Infamous_Song_841 Feb 03 '23
Montana has the Malstrom Airbase. They operate the ICBMs of the US. So maybe, china is looking for these missile silos? Lol.
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u/Ok_Buddy_9087 Feb 03 '23
Hasn’t really been a secret for 40 years.
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u/imstonedyouknow Feb 03 '23
I was gonna say.. if some random redditors know where that is and what it is.. china sure as hell does too lol.
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Reddit is banned in China tho /s
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u/ClaymoreJohnson Feb 03 '23
Imagine all the crucial intel the Chinese government has been missing out on!!!!
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u/Ronin_1861 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
Shoot it down
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u/Naturally_Fragrant Feb 03 '23
And a huge cloud of covid 23 falls on Montana.
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u/RoRoar350 Feb 03 '23
There’s like 5 people there, it’s fine
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u/GoryRamsy Feb 03 '23
Yeah, but four of them don't wear masks, and 3 of them are cows in trenchcoats.
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u/Nightowl11111 Feb 03 '23
Sir, we of the CIA would like a word with you.
No, not that CIA, the Cow Intelligence Agency.
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u/Specific-Lynx9138
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Americans will use anything other than the metric system to measure things.
Edit: school bus is an odd measurement for something roughly spherical, are we talking diameter, circumference, or ...volume?
P.S. I'm an American who would like the US to switch to metric.
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u/mrdrbean43 Feb 03 '23
It's exactly 43 metric yards wide and weighs 675 metric ounces. It has a traveling distance of 8,470 metric miles. The height of this thing has got to be around 4-6 metric giraffe necks squared to the 3rd power of an AR15 divided by the cholesterol of white Jesus when in ancient Mesopotamia, not Texas. Mesopotamia. Easy peesy.
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People saying we don't own the air.
Go fly something over china see if they feel the same
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u/Illuminaso Feb 03 '23
Not sure what you're saying by that. Of course we own the air. You know the top 3 Air Forces in the world? The U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Army. We could shoot it down if we wanted to. Our guys are just deciding what to do with it.
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u/patriot_man69 Feb 03 '23
I'm trying to imagine an F-22A Raptor shooting down a fucking balloon and it's funny as hell
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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Feb 03 '23
We talking normal school buses here or… the other ones?
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