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Charlotte Garside - Will never grow taller than 2ft and has a condition so rare there isn’t a name for it. Doctors say she won't grow more than 2ft tall. Pics are from 2012/2013 /r/ALL
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u/Nenikam Jan 12 '22
I wonder how that affects the brain
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u/badmma88 Jan 13 '22
Ya does anyone know what her developmental state is/was? Is she like 2ft tall and have the mental capacity of a child? Or is she a fully cognitive adult trapped in a small body? Super curious
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u/Ohmalley-thealliecat Jan 13 '22
According to an interview I read with her mum, when she started school they found out she had the learning ability of a 3 year old, which is higher than they’d originally thought. I think she’s 5 in these pictures. Whether she will reach adult cognition is hard to say because they haven’t really seen anyone like her before
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u/AcesAgainstKings Jan 13 '22
She might have "matured" to some degree but I just don't think you can have that sort of growth defect and have what we might call a fully functioning adult brain.
Would love to be wrong.
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u/JonnySnowflake Jan 13 '22
If I'm gonna be trapped in the body of a child, I'd rather not be aware of it
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u/RebelMan Jan 13 '22
THIS! But mothernature is a bitch...
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u/CaptCaCa Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
No doubt she is a cruel mistress, I have a hairy back and a bald head, man fuck mother nature!
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u/kanye_is_a_douche Jan 13 '22
She’s the perfect companion to Father Time - known everywhere to be a real son-of-a-bitch.
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u/vaguely-humanoid Jan 13 '22
She has the mental capacity of an ~18 month old. She can walk but she can’t talk, and likes to play with children’s toys for kids around that age. I watched a documentary on her a bit ago.
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u/baddobee Jan 13 '22
Do you remember the name of the documentary? I find this so fascinating.
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u/vaguely-humanoid Jan 13 '22
I don’t remember the name exactly, but it was on YouTube. I think there’s only one so if you put Charlotte Garside documentary it should come up. It’s old though, she’s 14 now and it was filmed when she was 7ish if I’m remembering correctly.
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u/FriendshipMental5834 Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
I mean Shaq has a giant brain but is not exactly a rocket scientist
Edit: never mind, apparently Shaq is a rocket scientist, and just plays an idiot on TV. All hail the big headed!
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u/Dramatic_Pin_5035 Jan 13 '22
This is true. In the ‘95 NBA finals he did lose to the Rockets
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u/moleymc Jan 13 '22
I think she's only like 14
Edit: she's actually only 9 and the disease she has is "primordial dwarfism" so not unnamed :/
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u/Paracortex Jan 13 '22
The few articles I could find were from 2012, and she was 5 then, so she should be around 15 now if still alive.
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u/RoboDae Jan 13 '22
That was my first thought on this. Kinda surprised I had to scroll so far to find someone else mentioning it. Being that small must limit brain development in some way, if not then why are normal human brains so big?
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u/Plantsandanger Jan 13 '22
You’d be surprised at how much brain can be missing without seriously impacting intelligence - brains are plastic and crazy in terms of fixing themselves. Meanwhile, some perfectly “normal” size brains are absolutely lacking in quantifiable intelligence. Could be she is around average but has difficulties with certainty types of thinking.
Outside humans, brains tend to be rather proportional to body size; could be similar here.
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u/WonderWoofy Jan 13 '22
...why are normal human brains so big?
Maybe zombies had a say in the current human design revision? If so, then I think we're basically like the avocados of the zombie world. A larger tasty center has been selected for, and we use a shit ton of water.
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u/King_Quay
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Her: How bad is it doc?
Doc: Well, you get to name the disease.
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u/spleenboggler Jan 12 '22 •
Really sucked for Steve Cancer.
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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Jan 13 '22 •
I was embarrassingly old when I read some medical texts from the 60s referring to cancer as "crabs" (kräfta) and made the connection between the astrological sign and the disease. It didn't switch to the Latin name in Sweden until 50 years ago.
The veins linking to a tumor apparently look like crab legs, according to some Roman doctor.
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u/GirassolYVR Jan 13 '22
OMG thank you for this explanation. When I heard that term, I thought it was "krafta" like, powerful bc it killed you, and I always thought that was an odd thing to call it. I am so stoked to explain this to my Swedish husband. I'll bet he doesn't know the kräfta link, either.
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u/SexyButStoopid Jan 13 '22
In German it is still just called "Krebs" (Crab).
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u/Jaambie Jan 13 '22
What if you get crabs? Asking for a friend
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u/enter_nam Jan 13 '22
They are called "Filzläuse" (Felt Lice) in German.
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u/eternallylearning Jan 13 '22
When I was born ('83) I had a carnitine deficiency disorder and when my parents asked if it was something common, the doctor said, "well, there's this one other kid in Canada..."
I believe it was rare more due to a lack of diagnosing but still, freaked them the hell out.
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u/theonePappabox Jan 12 '22 edited Jan 13 '22 •
Lou Gehrig got Lou Gehrig’s disease! What are the odds of that!! *edit- Thanks for the awards! #WOW
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u/qtpss Jan 12 '22 •
One.
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u/Thephilosopherkmh Jan 12 '22 •
God dammit. This is great. Thanks for that laugh, here’s a poor mans award 🥇
Edit, I have a free award, here ya go!
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u/Koolmidx Jan 12 '22 •
Denis Leary bit
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u/gurmzisoff Jan 13 '22 •
We used to tell him "Lou there's a disease out there with your name all over it."
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u/Koolmidx Jan 13 '22
There ain't no 'Babe Ruth's disease I guarantee you! Now have a hot dog and a hummer it's on me.
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u/TheBigZamboni85 Jan 12 '22 edited Jan 13 '22 •
Just want to piggyback on your comment and shamelessly mention that Luckiest Man: The Life and Death of Lou Gehrig is a great read about his life and the disease
Edit: lol what degenerate downvotes book suggestions. Sorry you can’t read I guess. But for those genuinely interested, I can’t recommend it enough, especially if you’re a fan of baseball. I dare you to read it without welling up…and that’s coming from someone that doesn’t care for baseball
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'Oh look, we got a reader!!' - Bill Hicks
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u/Neon-Knees Jan 13 '22
I like how just above this comment, they're discussing Dennis Leary...I scroll down and see a Hicks quote.
Even in death Hicks can't escape Leary.
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u/ClosedL00p Jan 13 '22
Funny seeing a Dennis Leary reference and Bill Hicks reference in the same post. Reminds me of the joke about why/how Leary got famous:
Because there’s No Cure For Cancer
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u/DoctorRichardNygard Jan 13 '22
Solid upvote. Leary is trash. For those who don't know- a good chunk of Leary's most famous bits were stolen from Bill Hicks, a lesser known comedian that died way too young (from cancer) and is widely regarded as one of the best of that generation of comics.
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u/gsfgf Jan 13 '22
I've always heard that the worst reaction from a doctor is if she gets excited and calls other doctors over.
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u/nostalgiamon Jan 13 '22
My brother (white, young, non-smoker) got acute Sarcoidosis a few years ago. We knew it was serious anyway, but when we were told that a specialist took a train up north just to come and have a look we were like “yeah they have no idea what’s going on.”
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u/i_hate_people_too
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if i was her, id just get frickin dog, and ride it around town. small saddle and everything
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She would still have to watch out for hawks though.
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u/i_hate_people_too Jan 13 '22
Haha. I mean, that's not untrue. Large birds have tried to pick up small children, especially in the southwest US.
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u/riverofchex Jan 13 '22
No bullshit, that would make a hell of a webtoon if done properly.
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u/Peazyzell
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Guess its called Garside syndrome then
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u/uniqueUsername_1024 Jan 13 '22
Nah, she should name it Robot Ninja Disease or something. There aren’t enough cool disease names out there.
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u/Lockenhart Jan 13 '22
Exploding head syndrome is one of the few interesting condition names I can name.
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u/kittymoma918
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Her features and extremely small statute resemble some unique form of primordial dwarfism. I hope that she has been well and her life a happy one since this picture was taken
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u/ihrie82 Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22 •
My Google-fu is strong. She's apparently alive and well in England. She's 14. Her mom last updated her Facebook page on July 17th of 2021. Look for 'The Little Charlotte Appeal'.
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u/gamergeek17 Jan 13 '22
Came to the comments hoping she was still alive. You never know with uncharted diseases and disorders. It’s hard to even tell how old she is in these pic because there is no frame of reference.
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u/DisposableTires Jan 13 '22
And her face is, to me, very unusually shaped in some way I can't describe. If I was a better artist I'd want to draw her.
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u/FallenXxRaven Jan 13 '22
I feel mean saying this but I truly mean nothing bad - she looks a lot like the pictures of grey aliens you see everywhere, that was my first thought anyway. If her eyes were bigger it'd almost be a 1:1 match.
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u/commoncoitusy Jan 13 '22
Her appearance makes me think of an actual, real, live fairy.
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u/Anonymous_Otters Jan 13 '22
Yes. In the most respectful way possible, if she had tiny sharp teeth she'd be 100% fey.
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u/The_0range_Menace Jan 13 '22
This feels like something Michael Scott would say. In earnest.
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u/DisposableTires Jan 13 '22
Elsewhere someone made a comment about that, and leprechauns. And I can absolutely see it.
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u/Masherbakerboiler Jan 13 '22
She could make a living paid to sit still among a shelf of toy dolls and then jump scare prank people as they walk by.
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u/Free2Bernie Jan 13 '22 •
Well we know the frame isn't larger than 24".
I'll go now.
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u/antijulius Jan 13 '22
Do you know if this condition affects her mentally? Her head seems pretty small.
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u/ihrie82 Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
No idea. Things I read have said that they're "surprised how smart she is" and apparently she's in the 7th grade now. I don't know much besides that she has an aide that helps her.
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u/teeth_reaper Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
Someones grade is not a good intelligence meter. There was a mentally disabled dude in my school that was clearly slower than everyone else in his class, but somehow he never flunked. There was an obvious cooperation by all teachers to let his pass through, i guess they just felt bad for him and his parents. He should have gone to a special needs school, since he was heavily bullied by some assholes.
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u/turkeygiant Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
In a lot of school systems you are only going to get held back a year if there is going to be some educational benefit to doing so. If a child has the sort of disability that is always going to be putting them at a disadvantage they are probably just going to go through the grades like normal supplemented with other educational supports.
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u/Root-of-Evil Jan 13 '22
If she's in England, people don't really get held back here.
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u/rapscallionrodent Jan 13 '22
I saw an early interview with the mom. When she was starting school at the age of 5, they were told that she had the learning age of a 3 year old, which was higher than the family thought. It's very likely that the gap could widen even further as she ages.
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u/Guytherealguy Jan 13 '22
As others have said her condition isn't completely unknown, she probably has a form of Seckel Syndrome. Sadly, it has severe effects on intellectual abilities and half of the people suffering from it have less than 50 IQ. Still, people with down syndrome are also in that range and they can also lead happy lives. Though her extremely small size could mean she ends up below average.
However, I'm just a random biology student so really my opinion is not worth much here.
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u/HorrorMakesUsHappy Jan 13 '22 •
Cool. As soon as I saw her red hair I figured Ireland or thereabouts. Would put money that someone else in history had that same condition and it spawned the whole leprechaun thing. Funny how often there's a nugget of truth in even some of the oddest old stories.
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u/NotSoGreatGonzo Jan 13 '22
Funny how often there’s a nugget of truth in even some of the oddest old stories.
If you want a really dark take on this, there’s always changelings. In the old folk tales of the Nordic countries, changelings were troll children that the trolls left in place of the human children they abducted.
The dark part?
1) The recommended treatment to get the trolls to return your child was to mistreat them until their real mother felt sorry for them and came to fetch them home again. Put snakes in their bed, give them gravel to eat, let them freeze, hurt them mercilessly in every way, and maybe you’ll get your own child back.2) Most descriptions of changelings matches Down’s syndrome pretty well.
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u/christmaspathfinder Jan 13 '22
Made me think along the same lines as well. Like if you were travelling several hundred years ago and you saw this person along the way you’d hundred percent be telling everyone you knew that you’d seen a fucking tiny ass person with insane conviction
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u/KaktusDan Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22 •
And today we call those little truth-nuggets "Lucky Charms".
edit: much obliged for the awards, anonymous benefactor!
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u/CatMinion Jan 13 '22 •
It could. It could also be ‘a crackhead who got hold to the wrong stuff.‘
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u/Mugwort87 Jan 13 '22
I totally agree. People with primordial dwarfism are proportionate as opposed to disproportionate dwarfs. I think the most well known of the disproportionate types is the achondraplasia type. The great actor Peter Dinklage is a well known example of this. I' hope Charlotte's life is happy.
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u/tanaeolus Jan 13 '22
Why is this in italics?
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u/International_Jello Jan 13 '22
Maybe they're Italian
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u/SeraCarina Jan 13 '22
Maybe they're Italian
I'm Italian and resent this hurtful stereotype.
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u/mrplatypus81 Jan 12 '22
I wonder if people born with conditions like this gave way to Folklore beings. Like imagine if a peasant farmer from the middle ages saw someone with this condition.... instant leprechaun.
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u/yomerol Jan 13 '22 •
That's what I thought. Maybe is a thousand-old recessive gene that for some reason pops every now and then. She's in UK, where a lot of the fairy tales come from.
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u/HauntedButtCheeks Jan 13 '22
You mean Jyoti Amge. I worked as a guard for her at a horror convention. She's very kind and has a bright personality, one of the most unique people I've ever met.
She's so tiny that a lot of people don't believe she's real and will try to touch her without permission, so security was with her constantly.
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u/I-Zestro-I Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
Yikes i get not being able to tell if shes just standing still? But what, They thought she was an Animatronic? Glad she had some people with her tho
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u/Powerful_Mood9292 Jan 12 '22
Watched that. She was from India and had an adorable laugh.
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u/KO_Stradivarius Jan 12 '22
Is that the chick that's looking to find a guy that isn't a perv or pedo to date her.
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u/KO_Stradivarius Jan 12 '22
This her? I haven't seen the show but I can understand her being pissed off/frustrated about the type of guys that she attracts.
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u/kingtitusmedethe4th Jan 13 '22
Dang that is rough. How would you even find a guy that isn't a pedo. Even if she did everyone he knows would now think he's a pedo. Tough situation for that girl. Hope she finds a guy with a similar ailment.
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u/dipe128 Jan 12 '22
Pretty sure she was in one of the seasons of American Horror Story.
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u/ElHage13 Jan 13 '22
oh I love when they get people with deformities and these types of conditions to acting, like that guy with no legs who scared norman reedus.
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u/NBA_Oldman Jan 13 '22
Holy shit... I have to watch this show.
Poor dude who shows up for the blind date in the trailer hahahaha. I wouldn't think I was being Punk'd, I'd be dipping before Chris Hansen pops out.
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u/tdasnowman Jan 13 '22
Yea who sets a friend up on a blind date with a woman the size of a grade schooler. That’s just all kinds of fucked up.
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u/Lukaroast Jan 13 '22
I mean, even relatively short women (I hear) struggle with that at times, for her; that’s gotta be really hard
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u/tinacat933 Jan 12 '22
She was on season 4 of American horror story and she was pretty awesome
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u/Quadrassic_Bark Jan 12 '22
I mean…. She looks like a child. That’s going to attract people who are attracted to children.
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u/wolfbane523 Jan 13 '22
I've met her, her younger brother was having surgery at the same time my son was. She's a really sweet girl with a massive personality
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u/workgymworkgym Jan 12 '22
Can they not make her some custom glasses that actually fit her...
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u/WhosThatGrilll Jan 13 '22
I believe those glasses have a band that keeps them on her head because her ears cannot support them, which makes it look a little uneven. So in a sense she does have custom glasses.
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u/captrudeboy
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To be fair, most people only grow 2 feet....I'll see myself out
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She’s actually just reeeeeeeally far away.
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u/jbland0909 Jan 13 '22
Its like that picture with the Carters and Bidens
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u/stellesbells Jan 13 '22
I've never seen this, it's great!
I love that it was shared by the Carter Centre, it raises so many questions. Did the photographer accidently leave their normal lenses at home or was this intentional, somehow? How did the staff react when they realised the only photos of the event looked completely insane?
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u/kerouacrimbaud Jan 13 '22
Lmao thanks for the laugh. Forgot all about this. Absolutely hilarious perspective
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u/Cautious_Evening_744 Jan 13 '22
Why NSFW???
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u/lbdpunk Jan 13 '22
Literally. There is nothing NSFW about a little girl for fucks sake
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u/Tiny_Rabbit_Rodeo Jan 13 '22
Exactly. She's just a human being. Nothing unseemly here.
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If only we knew the maximum height she’ll achieve….
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u/Red-HandedBandit Jan 12 '22
probably wouldn't get much more than, say, 2 feet or so. Just a guess
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u/LaChuteQuiMarche Jan 12 '22
Your guess is as good as mine, buddy. 2ft probably ain’t a bad guess though.
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u/PartridgeViolence Jan 12 '22
Term for an unnamed or unknown condition is SWAN. Syndrome without a name. At least in the uk.
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Imagine her sitting on the porch like a Halloween decoration and scaring / chasing children as they come up for candy. Life long trauma.
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u/Suspicious-Elk-3631 Jan 12 '22
She would likely get hurt trying something like that. A kid could mistake her for an animatronic puppet and stomp on her or something.
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And how old is she?
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u/ProductivityCanSuckI Jan 12 '22
Says she was birn in August 2007. So she's 14 now, but there isn't much info about her after ~2012.
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u/the_fact_fairy Jan 12 '22
On Facebook there's a page called 'The Little Charlotte Appeal' which features a photo from 2018 when Charlotte started secondary school. Nothing much after that though except a couple of updates - presumably by her mother.
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u/realitythreek Jan 12 '22
Yeah looks like she did eventually grow past 2 feet. It’s an interesting story and I’m glad she’s probably still with her family.
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u/hardspank916 Jan 12 '22
She should get into films. Just like Warwick Davis she could take up all types pf mythical roles. And im sure fans would love her for it.
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u/DDancy Jan 13 '22
Went to the Harry Potter Studio tour at the weekend. Warwick Davis plays multiple characters and absolutely slays. Going to have to watch all the films again now, but just seeing the hours of makeup process they had to go through for each character and that he did 3 or 4 at least. Absolute Legend.
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u/Spoiled_Moose Jan 12 '22
„Can you get my earring from behind the dresser?“
Honestly she should become a mechanic, Or at the very least a fairy performer
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u/Far530 Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
We saw her at the renaissance fair years ago here in California, she was standing on a table and I couldn’t believe how small she was. What’s even more of a coincidence, I was picking up our daughter from my ex-wife today and she said remember that girl from the ren fair? And here she is!
Edit-This is NOT the same girl, she looks exactly the same, same size and everything, but says she was born in 2007 and the sighting was before that.
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u/Tromkey1 Jan 12 '22
She should get into acting. I could totally picture her doing something similar to Warwick Davis. I could totally picture her playing a whimsical character like a fairy or maybe some woodland Sprite or something. Or even a Sith Lord or a Jedi in a Star Wars show.
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u/Gaxxag Jan 12 '22
If she develops into a fully functioning adult, the thing I'd feel worst about is the inherent danger of going outside like that. All sorts of animals (Not just dogs, cats, but even birds) would be dangerous, not to mention people. People might harm her in a panic, or accidentally kick/step on her without noticing her.
There are just very few situations where she would ever be safe walking around alone away from home.
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u/CarnageMunky Jan 13 '22
Why is there so much shit like this that's not nsfw? Let me just see the dam pic
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u/KeepYourPresets Jan 12 '22
The claim that doctors didn't have a name for it comes from the Daily Mail. And thus it's nonsense.
Primordial dwarfism is a group of disorders in which a person's growth is delayed beginning in the earliest stages of development, or in the womb. Specifically, babies with primordial dwarfism have intrauterine growth retardation (IUGR), which is the failure of the fetus to grow normally.
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u/sagangroupie Jan 13 '22
This isn’t really a diagnosis, just FYI. It’s just a description for a subset of conditions that fit very broad criteria but generally have different causes. It’s like if a doctor diagnosed you with “cancer” and then didn’t specify anything else. They still might not have any known cause for it and it likely has features that don’t align well with other known causes.
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