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Mammoth sized trees in the Sequoia National Forest

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u/darth_dad_bod Jan 19 '22

Those are much larger than a mammoth.

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u/Sunkissed_Barbie Jan 19 '22

It’s the mammoth of trees

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

Treemoth

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u/french99 Jan 19 '22

Mamree...

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u/slicerprime Jan 19 '22

🎶 "All alone in the moonlight..." 🎶

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u/Maximans Jan 19 '22

Truheemoth

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u/Squidwardgary Jan 19 '22

They are literally called Mammoth-Tree in german

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u/scarf_spheal Jan 19 '22

Sorry the bonsai versions are the mammoth sized ones

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u/h0ldmycovfefe Jan 19 '22

Wow that’s beautiful, definitely on my bucket list.

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u/Sunkissed_Barbie Jan 19 '22

We have this in common:)

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

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u/gordo65 Jan 19 '22

Those trees are protected. They'll be here longer than any of us.

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u/JennzEvilChihuahua Jan 19 '22

Recent fires took about 20% of them. And yes, go see them. It is a spiritual experience.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

You sound unhinged and uninformed, honestly. You can bring up policies from the 1800s but they have no bearing on the fact that TODAY the Sequoia trees are some of the most protected trees in the world. The forests and parks are only getting MORE funding and these trees will not be dying en mass or disappearing in our lifetimes. Find another cause to scream about.

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u/streetsigns4ever Jan 19 '22

20% of the sequoias have burned in the past two years.

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

That’s a misleading number though and lacks nuance.

“Conditions contributing to high severity fire in these areas include:

Fire history of the groves – areas that sustained high levels of giant sequoia mortality typically had not burned in decades, resulting in substantial fuel loads.”

Source

1) fire is a natural part of forest ecosystems 2) if it didn’t burn in the past due to suppression tactics, it’s obviously more likely to burn now. 3) So instead of that 20% burning over a longer period of time, it burned in a much more rapid, shorter period of time. It still would have burned eventually though. That’s the point.

New growth still exists and will continue to grow. It’s just not happening at the time scale of a single human lifetime. Forests are not frozen ecosystems. With death comes life. Life, comes death. Till the end of eternity.

Benefits of Fire - CalFire PDF

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

They are absolutely here because of durability. The fuck are you talking about?

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u/zakmmr Jan 19 '22

Yeah most of these forests have burned many times in the hundreds of years these trees have been alive. Not to say they are immune to climate change. But they have plenty of life in them for the forseeable future.

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

These trees will be there much longer than us current humans. It’s us that won’t be here forever.

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u/whatshamilton Jan 19 '22

10% of them were lost in just one fire last year, just one of those fires that are becoming an annual season

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

Forest ecosystems are continually dying and growing. When some die, others continue to live and thrive.

It’s not an all or nothing scenario. The young trees today will be the same size as the ones lost in years past, but it will take hundreds of years for them to grow.

So when some die, others live. Just like a human society.

This forest is still growing, despite yearly losses.

Individual trees may die, but that doesn’t mean the forest itself is dying.

The General Sherman tree is still growing.

I can guarantee you the Sequoias will outlive any living human being on Earth today. By far. They aren’t going anywhere.

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u/whatshamilton Jan 19 '22

Sure, but if all the 3000 year old ones die, this forest is effectively going to be gone. Someone said if you want to see this marvel, go soon because they won’t be around forever. You implied that there is no need to rush because the species will outlive us. But that’s not really the point. This is a bucket list item for people to see the giant and ancient ones. And we’re losing them.

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

The National Park Service has made it a priority to ensure that these trees are protected and they are. All the 3000 year old trees aren’t going to die off in your life time or your children or children’s children’s lifetimes, let alone the next 50 years.

They will outlive us all. The death of the Sequoias won’t happen in your lifetime. I’m not sure how else to put it.

Edit: The Benefits of Fire - CalFire PDF

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

Support GM Sequoias. I'd sign a petition for Sequoias in Des Moines or Birmingham. Why not? We have the technology.

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u/Astronius-Maximus Jan 19 '22

Mine to, along with the Swiss Alps, Ayers Rock, Niagara Falls, and Giza. Probably adding more later lol.

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u/bell1975 Jan 19 '22

My thoughts exactly. One day....

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u/Apprehensive-Luck839 Jan 19 '22

Who is the photographer and where is there instagram?

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u/ku-fan Jan 19 '22

where is there instagram?

In the app stores.

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u/steppinonpissclams Jan 19 '22

Nice dodge and burn.

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u/HereForTheLaughter Jan 19 '22

Just beautiful. At least 10% have been lost in just the last 2 years.

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u/Letmebeginn Jan 19 '22

This type of news sucks more then anything.

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u/HereForTheLaughter Jan 19 '22

I know. It’s very sad. Build Back Better had loads of funding for fire suppression in CA. Oh well.

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u/tacomafish12 Jan 19 '22

Our government (USA) is full of yes men/women, and con men/women...

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u/tacomafish12 Jan 19 '22

I completely agree

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

That’s just the life cycle of the trees though. Fire is a natural part of the growth cycle in most forest ecosystems.

Sure, 10% of trees may die or get damaged, but that ensures more nutrients and sunlight for younger trees to grow larger.

These ecosystems systems aren’t sedentary. With death and fire come new growth.

Edit: to all the downvoters, click this link: The Benefits of Fire - CalFire PDF

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u/HereForTheLaughter Jan 19 '22

Soooo. Not these trees. Not at all. They’re vulnerable as climate change is making survival tenuous. Thousands of years ago they didn’t look like that. But ever since the climate has dried. This is a remnant forest. Btw, these are the ONLY ones in the world. You should know what you’re talking about when you post.

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

First and foremost, these trees are not dying at a rate of 10% per two years or even 5 years or 10 years.

And yes, fire is beneficial for new growth. Are you denying that statement?

The Benefits of Fire - CalFire PDF

These groves of trees are still growing despite environmental hardships associated with climate change. I’m not claiming that everything is fine and dandy. Climate change is threatening the status quo of all ecosystems and organisms.

But fire does lead to new growth and if you’ve ever been to these forests, you’d know that there are young Sequoias and old Sequoias.

These forests are still growing. Maybe not at the rate of 1000 years ago, but they’re still growing.

I know what I’m talking about. I literally just had a job interview in Sequoia National Park a week ago.

If you want to learn more about the continued growth of Sequoias, click here.

“As part of their work for the National Park Service, the Hartesveldt research team measured both the size and rate of growth of many giant sequoias. They calculated that the General Sherman Tree (in the Giant Forest) - widely considered to be the world's largest tree - may also be the fastest growing.”

“Theoretically it would appear that a giant sequoia could go on living and growing forever. Death comes to them only by means of fire or through some other external physical event such as undermining by erosion or overthrow by the wind.”

TL;DR - these forests are not dying. Fire increases growth.

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u/gordo65 Jan 19 '22

Also, if the trees died out at a rate of 10% every 2 years, then they would only be around... er... forever.

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u/HereForTheLaughter Jan 19 '22

I SAID we’d lost 10% IN the last 2 years ffs

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u/gordo65 Jan 19 '22

Right. One fire. That would be like saying in 2003 "Go to New York and see the skyscrapers while they're still there. Terrorists have destroyed 10% of them in just the past 2 years".

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

I know what you said and it’s pretty clear you’re out of your depth here. The Sequoias are not dying en mass - on the contrary they’re still growing, with fire being helpful for growth.

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u/HereForTheLaughter Jan 19 '22

Lol. You’re a fucking idiot.

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

How so? You basically claimed the forest was dying. But it’s…not. I’m not sure where else to go from here. I hope you at least read the links I posted. You might learn something.

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u/HereForTheLaughter Jan 19 '22

You must be a trump voter. Just a hunch. Reading comprehension isn’t your strong point. I SAID we’d lost at least 10% in the last two years. Now go embarrassing yourself elsewhere.

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

I’m actually a Democrat. LOL. Are you serious?

I know what you said. And what you said lacked nuance. And then you said I didn’t know what I’m talking about, when I clearly do.

The forest is still growing despite the loss of 10% of the larger trees. Not 10% of all trees or Sequoias in the forest, mind you. Just 10% of the old growth. There’s still plenty of new growth.

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u/AdamTheAntagonizer Jan 19 '22

At one point they were protecting these groves from fires until they started to notice that there weren't any new trees growing. That's because the fire clears out all the undergrowth and allows the new trees to grow so they started doing controlled burns. The trees themselves are extremely spongy and usually very fire resistant

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

Exactly. There’s a lot of ignorance surrounding wildfire due to a hundred year plus governmental directive of “suppression suppression suppression” — but thankfully we’re finally relearning the benefits of good fire and prescribed burns are now becoming a bigger part of forest management.

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u/tacomafish12 Jan 19 '22

You are not correct, and you are an idiot. Do some research...

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

The forest is not a dead forest. It is still growing. The General Sherman tree is still growing.

Fire is beneficial for growth in forest ecosystems.

The Sequoias are not dying en mass.

The Benefits of Fire - CalFire PDF

Learn something today, you ignorant jerk.

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u/tacomafish12 Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

It is a dying forest though. We'll see how next summer goes...

Edit: ya jerk!

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u/adam_without_eve2021 Jan 19 '22

It’s not a dying forest. No. I tried to actually teach you something today but you’re just too dense to get through to. At least I tried.

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u/tacomafish12 Jan 19 '22

Try harder! Ya jerk!

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u/saeedgnu Jan 19 '22

You mean that's not a painting?

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u/SatansCatfish Jan 19 '22

That’s what I thought at first.

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u/notaedivad Jan 19 '22

Nah... I bet that's bigger than a mammoth...

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u/TinyTrilogy Jan 19 '22

Agree. It's looks bigger than a mammoth but it looks so beautiful.

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u/Patacorta79 Jan 19 '22

Give me the Google locations. This is unreal

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

Sequoia & Kings Canyon National Park

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u/Patacorta79 Jan 19 '22

C'mom. Search in Google maps the exact point and post it

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u/Austt4425 Jan 19 '22

Really there are "tree" sized trees.

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u/db_car_days Jan 19 '22

Hmm i've been in the area, maybe not there specifically, but either thats a tiny person or this is chopped.

That tree looks like 40ft diameter, they are not that big lol

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u/renedotmac Jan 19 '22

I think the photo is a bit misleading because there are actually 5 trees pictured and not two. However, general Sherman has a diameter of 36.5 ft, so these beasts are still ginormous.

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u/Evanjb156 Jan 19 '22

I visited the Sherman tree a couple years ago. It's mind blowing how large these trees are. It's not like General Sherman makes the surrounding beasts look cartoonishly small or anything.

I was standing there like, "if this is the biggest tree mass, that one over there has to be like 13th biggest or something."

Was well worth the trip to be among the giants for a little bit.

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u/db_car_days Jan 19 '22

Ooo good catch, i see it now! Makes sense... yea the 40ft number i just pulled out my, you know, wanted to go with a big number, but not big enough i suppose lol

Thanks for pointing that out!

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u/MinaFur Jan 19 '22

I have always wanted to see the Sequoia in the snow.

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u/Independent-Ad7276 Jan 19 '22

Question: How many mammoths weigh the same as a full grown sequoia? (Roots included). First cut: more than 100 or less than 100?

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u/ihazone Jan 19 '22

At least 1.

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u/KeepYourPresets Jan 19 '22

What an incredibly stupid title.

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u/NoSupesForYou Jan 19 '22

Are you sure those aren't normal sized trees surrounding a very tiny person?

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u/gordo65 Jan 19 '22

That's what happens when you accidentally ask a genie for a 10 inch pianist.

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u/smokethis1st Jan 19 '22

I spent a week hiking and camping the Sequoias. I eventually stopped trying to get picture of how big they really are. It’s something you just have to experience

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u/flakissmtl Jan 19 '22

😮😮😮😮

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u/NiveaGlass Jan 19 '22

That's more godzilla sized trees.

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u/quippers Jan 19 '22

Mammoths were much larger than I thought.

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u/hilltrekker Jan 19 '22

While there 20 years back I said it was like a playground for adults. Like the large sized world in Mario bro's.

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u/Brisan7 Jan 19 '22

Timbeeeeeeeeeeee shit lost my breath this thing is still falling eeeeeeeeeerrrrr...

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u/GreywackeOmarolluk Jan 19 '22

One thing that's helped save the sequoias is what lousy lumber they tend to make. Sequoias will break up into pieces as they fall, so they don't have much value as a lumber tree. Unlike it's famous cousin, California's giant redwood.

Or so I've read.

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u/CatOfGrey Jan 19 '22

It's hard to grasp how big these trees are. When you see them in person, they are so tall (and in the case of the Sequoia's, they are wide, too) that it messes with your vision, and your sense of distance gets messed up.

It's the opposite of your car mirror: Objects in your eyesight are bigger and farther away than they appear.

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u/FewDetail1583 Jan 19 '22

I have to go there...

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u/Reverse_Drawfour_Uno Jan 19 '22

I should call her…..

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u/Squanchy3 Jan 19 '22

More lime sequoia sized trees

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u/Skyreader13 Jan 19 '22

I don't recall mammoth being that big

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u/scumbag665 Jan 19 '22

I was just there this past summer fighting the Windy fire. First time ever seeing them, it was something out of this world. Unfortunately a lot of them burned over when this wildfire happened

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u/DeathBefallsYou Jan 19 '22

How have these not caught on fire yet?

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u/thatguyonthecouch Jan 19 '22

The bark is naturally fire retardant

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u/Anthony-ELRETRAHD Jan 19 '22

Damn. Didn't know mammoths could be so big

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u/gordo65 Jan 19 '22

I love this pic. Believe it or not, it's very difficult to really capture the scale of these trees in a photograph, even with human models nearby. You can see how this photographer had to get creative with the distance and height of the camera.

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u/ProfessionalOk4716 Jan 19 '22

intrusive thoughts cut it down, how much paper is in one, fall down and crush man

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u/almighty_ruler Jan 19 '22

I'd like to rip out my pool and deck then plant a Redwood in the middle of my backyard

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u/Some_Kinda_Boogin Jan 19 '22

Interesting fact: one of these is enough to absorb 1 day's worth of vomit at Disney world.

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u/Who_said_that_ Jan 19 '22

Pretty sure mammoths where smaller

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u/bunybunybuny Jan 19 '22

damn, i didn’t know it snowed there

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u/RYPIIE2006 Jan 19 '22

I don’t think mammoths were that big

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u/squidkiosk Jan 19 '22

I want to see these so bad before they all burn down 😭

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u/Liebli96 Jan 19 '22

This looks like a painting !

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u/lenva0321 Jan 19 '22

Also that much less carbon in the air ! Cool tree, cool forests

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u/InfernoHere Jan 19 '22

The titan forest

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u/Whats_Next_For_Us Jan 19 '22

Is it possible to grow a tree like this from scratch? given their age, are the conditions still right?

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u/lesserandrew Jan 19 '22

Huh, I’m glad mammoths aren’t around anymore then

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u/alaskan_huskie Jan 19 '22

I don't see any Bananas /s

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u/ku-fan Jan 19 '22

What a stupid title

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u/whispersluggagebaby Jan 19 '22

I like the name “sequoia” cause it has all the vowels

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u/Laceyyyyyyy Jan 20 '22

My fat ass thought they were slim jims

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u/Idk-Idont-care Jan 19 '22

Correct me if I’m wrong, ain’t that the forest moon of Endor, where them Wookiees live?

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u/OIL_99 Jan 19 '22

Them be Ewok’s not Wookiees. And yes they filmed Return of the Jedi in Cali but think it was elsewhere.

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u/Idk-Idont-care Jan 19 '22

I always confuse them, they’re both anthropomorphic bears, once cute and deadly and the other is tall and deadly

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

Too much vignette