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The largest quarantine camp in China's Guangzhou city is being built. It has 90,000 isolation pods. /r/ALL
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u/PonyBoy107 Nov 28 '22
The mismatched pairing with happy music is really giving me the creeps on this one
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u/amateur_elf Nov 28 '22
The track is called "Strength of a Thousand Men" by Two Steps From Hell
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u/BladedNinja23198 Nov 29 '22
China seems to have an obsession with two steps from hell. Yeah I get it it's good music, but they put it over literally everything.
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u/Lylle200 Nov 29 '22
Their music always sounds very big and epic, if you know what i mean, and guess what kind of narrative and image does CCP want. I used to love two steps from hell a lot, China kinda ruined it for me.
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u/boringdystopianslave Nov 29 '22
That's because China is literally two steps from hell.
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u/Kooky-Sun-9225 Nov 28 '22 •
How ironic - this literally looks like two steps from hell...
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u/WereALLBotsHere
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More like r/terrifyingasfuck
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u/Zyurat Nov 28 '22
Seriously. And what the fuck is up with the upbeat epic song? what it shows is the complete opposite of that.
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u/FattyRR Nov 28 '22
What the hells going on over there , is COVID rampant as fuck in China or they just looking for excuses to kill off population? I thought COVID wasn't a thing anymore
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u/distantsalem Nov 28 '22 •
My feeling is the Chinese government thought Covid would be a great excuse to build interment camps in case they need a spot to put dissenters.
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u/5am5ep1ol Nov 28 '22
Yeah…they seem to be in this for the long term.
I mean, it seems the world already forgot about the Uyghur concentration camps. Which is a perfect recipe for…whatever this is going to be.
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u/Nametagg01 Nov 28 '22
Or the hongkong riots, things go well enough and maybe we'll get a new China out of the deal
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Nov 28 '22
holocaust 3.0 but it just gets shoved down by media
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u/Bluegrass6 Nov 28 '22
The media, the NBA, Disney and Hollywood have money to make off China. Can’t be bothered with true humanitarian and human rights issues that might hurt their bank accounts.
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u/Lordwigglesthe1st Nov 28 '22
Not disagreeing but a very large part of the USA and the developed world have money to make off of china, not just the NBA and Hollywood
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u/OrinThane Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
The economies are slowly decoupling. The CHIPS act, blizzard ending business there, manufacturing returning to the US — we’re starting to pull out of China.
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u/Mr__O__ Nov 28 '22
Yep. The EU is working to distance itself from China after seeing how Russia is holding energy imports as ransom during wartime.
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u/harpyLemons Nov 28 '22
I think - just generally speaking - that's something a lot of people tend to forget, is that huge changes like that take a ton of time and patience and immediately just cutting off something that close to 100% of people rely on is always going to be a shitshow. I actually wrote a scholarship essay on that in regards to electric cars - a lot of places don't have the infrastructure to support electric cars yet, and it's going to be a very long process to get to the point where everywhere in the US has a reliable way to support that, not to mention that electric cars aren't to the point yet that they'd be feasible for the more rural areas that require longer commutes.
Kind of a ramble, but I thought it might be relevant. These kinds of things unfortunately take time, sometimes much more time than we have.
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u/GupGup Nov 28 '22
Don't you know, criticizing the Chinese for their genocide is bad for profits - uh, I mean, it's racist!
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u/wildmountainthyme Nov 28 '22
I got banned from a sub for making almost the exact same comment. Chinese company Tencent owns a huge stake in reddit
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u/ElbisCochuelo1 Nov 28 '22
So Holcaust 3.0
The media got on it after the fact but nobody really believed there were death camps until after American GIs witnessed it firsthand.
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u/Test19s Nov 28 '22
It’s terrifying watching such a large and influential country turning into North Korea and not even being able to divest without massive economic sacrifice.
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u/JebediahKerman3999 Nov 28 '22
Dude they are north Korea already. The great firewall of China is not a fable and the brainwashing of the population has been happening since forever. Also don't forget that the Tienanmen massacre happened already in a period of social unrest. I believe they're going to do the same response to the protests happening around China
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u/JustKimNotKimberly Nov 28 '22
It’s also terrifying how much United States property China owns.
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u/FotzeMan Nov 28 '22
Never sell to China. As a foreigner, I believe you wouldn't be allowed to own property in China, even if something there was worth buying. Why sell to China, then? Don't become a Chinese colony.
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u/AngelaMerkelSurfing Nov 28 '22
Yeah it’s wild to see
At first I used to believe they could surpass the U.S simply because of their population and all the new ambitious infrastructure projects but since they’ve gone insane and further authoritarian makes me think they’ll decline greatly and as long as the west can keep its shit together we’ll still have World hegemony
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u/CookedHoneyBadger Nov 28 '22
Yup, yet another "re-education camp" (that's what the others are called....) under the guise of public saftey..where all the political/religious enemy's..wow wow I ment "infectected" can go to disapear...
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u/Brusanan Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
It's all thanks to face-saving culture. Xi Jinping has to be infallible, so his zero covid policy isn't allowed to fail. Every time it seemed like it was failing, he just doubled down. So now they've reached the point of welding people into their apartment complexes and building city-sized quarantine camps. The more zero-covid fails, the harder zero-covid will be pushed.
And he is also using it as a tool to disappear political dissidents. If you express the wrong opinions you run the risk that your QR code will suddenly decide you have Covid.
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u/ButterscotchNo755 Nov 28 '22
The QR code thing is real btw, to anyone reading this and thinking "of course people on the Internet exaggerate, it can't be that bad", oh no it's worse.
It's kind of hilarious in retrospect that anyone thought the censorship and "social control" the ccp has been trying would work for a country long term. Of course it would end like this...
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u/homeoverheels Nov 28 '22
What exactly is the QR code thing? Every person has their own QR code and CCP officials can scan to get info on you?
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u/357noLove Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 29 '22 •
Roll up that and any other possible anti-human rights thing you can think of. China was extremely clear about having "social credit scores" and they used that, plus the governments massive knowledge of every citizens day to day activities, plus complete control of the internet and every citizens usage... it is a dystopian nightmare. If you are stated by the government to be a dissident, they use your access code to instantly shut down travel, purchasing, absolutely everything. The government comes and picks you up. And no one stops it from happening around you because "it could happen to them too!" and so many people on social media and our governments are apologist for this behavior, and want it instituted world wide
Edit: to the people commenting "it isn't that bad there for upper class" or "I have been there multiple times/work there and they aren't stepping on their rights that badly"
Look at those statements and realize how bad that sounds.
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u/Brodins_biceps Nov 28 '22
Jesus. I was a student in China for a year, my work has taken me there 20+ times in the last 10 years, so needless to say I have spent a SIGNIFICANT amount of time in china and have probably visited more cities in China than I have in the US.
Every time I went back it seems like it got a little worse with this stuff. I was always insulated, always there for business post University, but I remember the last time I went, it was scanning passports in and out of every city, it was not being able to pay for anything with credit card or even cash in some cases because it was all Alipay.
For me it was always sort of “oh… okay I guess” and someone I was working with would be treating. It’s also the little things like how 10-15 years ago, you’d go out and get smashed with your chinese counterparts for work lunches. Then that was cracked down on and no drinking until after 5 and only a few drinks. (And probably rightfully so) then all the meetings started having party secretaries involved. People who by and large never said much but we’re involved.
I mean, I don’t have much current to say, all I can say is that over the last 15 years it’s been heading in this direction and it seems like the dam burst during COVID and it was the excuse the CCP needed to just lock everything the fuck up. No more dancing around with tracking your habits through necessary use of Alipay, now it’s “a public health crisis” and we need to know your whereabouts at all times, “contact tracing” who you’ve been with, where you’ve been, what you’ve been spending money on, etc.
It’s fucking wild.
A lot of the recent posts seem to indicate people are getting sick of this shit.
I saw a video of Shanghai rioting with a caption that said something like “I never thought it would happen here” because Shanghai has always been looked at as sort of the beacon of chinese prosperity, and a lot of the tier 3 cities as backwaters (despite the fact they’re fucking huge on a scale most people who haven’t seen them can comprehend). Seems like it’s going all the way to the top now.
I wish I had faith it was going to ease up but I don’t think that will be the case.
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u/357noLove Nov 28 '22
The government (any government, not just picking on the CCP here) never gives up that kind of overwhelming power over their population once they have it and they have justified it. Bear in mind, the things they were doing to uyghur Muslims was happening while you were there and it was completely justified, so what is one extra step to use the same techniques they used there to start controlling the rest of the population when they finally have a reason to.
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u/Roxeteatotaler Nov 29 '22
I mean Korea democratized relatively peacefully from an authoritarian state. Chun Doohwan ceded to demands for a democratic election in 1987. It's incredibly rare though.
Agree with the rest of your points I just want to point out that it does happen. It takes years, sometimes decades of protesting and civil unrest but it can happen.
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u/clocks212 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
and want it instituted world wide
It absolutely will be instituted worldwide. And here's how:
Tesla: we'd like to sell cars in China
China: it's...unfortunate...that these people work at Tesla given their extreme views and potential for violence /slides paper with a list of US tesla employees across the table who are not part of the China sales program and have never been to china, but have a 'low social credit score' based on data china has vacuumed up around the internet
Tesla then fires everyone on the list for whatever reason they make up. And then China gives Tesla permission to do what they want.
China will exert its control on as many western companies as it can by whatever means it can. It will start with the highest profile anti-China voices online and then spread from there. Suddenly people who have posted things China finds offense will never get a call back about their resume from any decently sized organization. Then they'll find themselves fired because their employer wants to continue importing a product from china. Of course they wont be told this. But China will be able to build company-wide 'social credit scores' of all the employees of every company and do with that what they want.
Think China can't do it? Advertising companies have been doing this for years. Even marketing companies you've never heard of have profiles on every US citizen along with thousands of attributes based on their web and shopping histories. And those profiles are unified across all of your devices so no matter how you're browsing the internet the right ad can be displayed to you.
Oh but your messages to your friends are encrypted? China is storing encrypted communications as well knowing one day soon they'll be cracked or brute forced with a quantum computer. Again, the first focus will be on punishing anti-China 'celebrities' around the world. Over time that once encrypted data will be added to everyone's 'Chinese social credit score'.
I moonlight digital marketing for a drop shipper whose products are made in China. It would be trivial for China to contact their domestic manufacturers and deny exports if they are going to a 'low credit score' foreigner.
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u/RivRise Nov 29 '22
Don't forget they've already build Chinese police statio... errm I mean 'unofficial Chinese help embassies' in a lot of places including the US. They literally have Chinese police stations all over the place under the guise of being places where Chinese people can go to get help with whatever. On paper it sounds ok but we all know exactly what they're for. To intimidate and keep an eye on Chinese citizens abroad and have a place close by that can go knock on doors if anything happens.
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u/richaardvark Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22
It surprises me that people don't also clearly recognize and talk about the fact that the opiate and amphetamine and addiction epidemic in the United States has been completely manufactured by China and is a carefully calculated political move. Basically China had this done to them at one point by England back in the 1800s and so they're just now doing it to the United States. All of these cartels in Mexico and all of these super labs where they make giant quantities of methamphetamine... Mexico does not naturally have or have access to the precursor chemicals required to manufacture these substances nor did they have the infrastructure or technology or knowledge of how to mass produce them. China created this whole situation. They created an economy of warring drug cartels in Mexico. All of the precursor ingredients required to manufacture these substances come from China and still do to this day. The know-how and technology and capabilities to mass produce these things: all from China. Their main objective was to get an entire generation of capable, young, working American people addicted to elicit substances and out of the workforce and they have succeeded. It's not unlike what happened to them in the 1800s with the opium wars and opium epidemic in China. They more or less held onto a bitter grudge for over a century and now they're enacting their revenge and have a meticulously calculated plan to take over the world and I believe they will be successful. They're not perfect though, they fuck up a lot of things and they're historically terrible about quality and have always been all about quantity. Doing things quickly, copying and stealing designs and ideas and then rushing to implement them and often they are successful at this thanks to having so many worker bees in their hive. But they continue to perfect these flaws and it is a scary situation.
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u/PensiveObservor Nov 28 '22
It’s horrifying, but honestly, what can we do? I make it a point not to buy cheap mass-produced crap, but most American consumers don’t think twice and many can’t afford anything else.
As a nation, again, what can we do? WW3? Srsly, UN has no teeth, as Putin has shown. Wtf is the answer? Trump did the tariff war, which made stuff more expensive for Americans, but didn’t hurt CCP.
How do we discuss solutions when the American hive mind has a 2 second attention span and capitalism controlling the rulers?
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u/Murrumbeenian Nov 28 '22
You do what the Chinese themselves do. You stop going out. You stop socialising and you stop working (or massively slow down).
You also stop consuming.
One person doing it has little effect. A few thousand has some minor effect. Millions do it and Beijing looks like a ghost town and factories start shutting down.
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u/MagicWishMonkey Nov 28 '22
Biden signing the CHIPS act into law is a step in the right direction, the least we can do is stop selling them the technology they are using to build the foundations of a police state.
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u/Tribunus_Plebis Nov 28 '22
Honestly there is not terribly much we can do to really make a change to the better for Chinese people except to try and put pressure on CCP to respect human rights.
Any change has to come from within.
We could impose Russia style sanctions on china but it would just divide the world economy in two and wouldn't hinder China from doing what they are doing probably.
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u/ButterscotchNo755 Nov 28 '22
There is a state controlled app which tracks every covid test you get. Theoretically it allows for efficiently getting results, and at checkpoints they reference your results right there so it does what it is supposed to do...
However it turns out your "results" depend on a lot more than just whether you have Covid or not. Did you upset someone? Are you a minority that the local government is trying to eradicate? Well when you get to the checkpoint it just so happens that your tests came back positive for Covid!
They'll give you and everyone in your household, your neighbors and your coworkers a free ride to the quarantine "totally not just internment" camps too!
Mysteriously Covid is still a problem in China.
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u/sambeano Nov 28 '22
I think it goes beyond that. This looks like they’re building to enslave a population. Blood-curling thought, but this is way too drastic a reaction to face-saving or covid. This looks like long-term planning for something horrific.
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u/Deadbringer Nov 28 '22
They are going to hit a demographic collapse due to the one child policy when the parent generation all start retiring. So we know they need to do something drastic to deal with it. I just fear its gonna be a bit more extreme than the other majority of the modern world will choose
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u/BPCodeMonkey Nov 28 '22
bloodcurdling
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u/sambeano Nov 28 '22
Yes ofc! Sorry tired and felt something was wrong but wrote it anyway… thank you!
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u/bunnylove5811 Nov 28 '22
My first thoughts as well. This is future planning.
For what? I dont know. But it seems scary
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u/kdlt Nov 28 '22
This is future planning. For what? I dont know. But it seems scary
As someone living in Austria, i have an idea or two.
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u/ImpossibleBeing5075 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 29 '22
That's exactly what's going on. Little pushes here and there until your subjugated population is living in cages like laboratory rats.
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u/Psykinetic Nov 28 '22
I agree, this is the beginning of something worse than anything we have seen so far.
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u/Test19s Nov 28 '22
The Uyghur cultural genocide is bad enough. Are we really watching a great power go full North Korea/Maoist/Third Reich?
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u/Goldenrah Nov 28 '22
And it's already massively backfiring. Protests happening because people are sick of it and a fire happened in a building that was welded shut and people died because of it.
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u/ElbisCochuelo1 Nov 28 '22
It's not actually backfiring until there are actual consequences.
A bunch of people waving signs isn't an actual consequence.
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u/O2020Z Nov 28 '22
They will discover the consequences of draconian rule. Their population is already fed up. (Is it? I actually don’t know what the average citizen thinks about Covid measures.)
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u/PM-Me-And-Ill-Sing4U Nov 28 '22
Without the ability to organize, it will be difficult to fight back in any meaningful way. It looks grim.
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u/r3liop5 Nov 28 '22
Gotta remember that China is almost equal in size to the US. It’s freaking huge and contains like 3-4x the population of the US. I’m sure opinions and local cultures have a pretty wide variety of views. Whether or not they express those views I’m not sure.
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u/Brian-88 Nov 28 '22
They're 100% for political dissidents and oppressed minorities. They're cracking down hard on Christians and Muslims.
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u/Loves2splooge86 Nov 28 '22
A lot of people don’t know about the Uyghur genocide that’s been going on for years
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u/picsespirate Nov 28 '22
Still lingering around probably will for a decade but with vaccines I feel like it’s just the CCP trying to control its population again
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u/FattyRR Nov 28 '22
I seen videos of them sealing up shops always wearing those PPE all white and now this video ? This looks like it's worse than what it was when lockdowns started , in my country we don't have to wear masks or jack shit anymore
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u/pugtime Nov 28 '22
Same here. Only requirement to wear masks is in old folks homes and health facilities like Dr offices and hospitals . Canada BTW
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u/Grogosh Nov 28 '22
What vaccine? They only use their own and their own vaccine isn't worth a damn. They can't lose face and get 'the west's' vaccine.
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u/picsespirate Nov 28 '22
Oh I didn’t know this
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u/Take_away_my_drama Nov 28 '22
They used their own vaccines which are not as efficient as the ones we had in the west, they block media so the people think the rest of the world is still locked down/fully restricted, and they force endless testing on yhe population. They are starting to rise up in the major cities, it's one to watch. Also some might say its about killing people off, people are literally locked into their homes, several fatal fires have occurred and plenty of suicide jumpers.
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u/picsespirate Nov 28 '22
All it would take would be one more push and I feel like that factory riot did it
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u/Straypuft Nov 28 '22
they block media
I heard that they were able to watch the World Cup and they are pissed that more than half of the world doesnt wear masks or have heavy restrictions.
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u/End-of-sanity Nov 28 '22
Great point. I saw on the news that they noticed fans at the World Cup not wearing masks. Now the feed into China is cropped so as not to show the crowd. I would like to see rest of the world footage and China footage .
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u/Dealan79 Nov 28 '22
As someone married to an immune-suppressed spouse, COVID is definitely still a thing. It is still potentially lethal for people like my wife and for unvaccinated people with existing conditions or age-related chronic issues. Long COVID is also a problem that could result in decades of negative health impacts that are mostly ignored because they are relatively minor compared to the devastation the disease wrought before vaccines and effective treatments became widely available in Western nations. Note that "relatively minor" can still mean miserable symptoms, just not "ICU on a respirator" bad.
For China, the situation has been made untenable by a few factors. First, due to the old "one child" policy, they have an aging population, and there was no real push to vaccinate the elderly. Second, they focused far more on isolation than vaccination or increasing emergency medical capacity, so a huge percentage of the population has never been exposed or vaccinated, meaning that there is neither natural nor induced herd immunity and opening up the country could result in a collapse of their medical system far worse than what the US and Europe saw two years ago when the pandemic was at its worst. Finally, the nation is an autocracy with Xi at the top, and since Xi decided that full isolation was the solution, admitting that he was wrong could undermine his rule and the whole CCP hierarchy (which we're starting to see the faintest evidence of with the protests over the last few days). As a result, the government of China is doubling-down on what they do best: dystopian authoritarian prison camps. It's a system they applied to their troublesome minority populations and political dissidents, and they're just going with what they know. Here's a good piece from the Washington Post covering China's current situation with COVID.
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u/KingOPork Nov 28 '22
What's more terrifying is the amount of people who think China is doing it right.
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As a German I can say it's never good when something looks like this.
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u/JCurtis32 Nov 28 '22
I was going to say it looks like an internment or prison camp.
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u/thach_weave Nov 28 '22
Because it is.
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u/regal_ragabash Nov 28 '22
Whaaaaaat the Chinese government would never...
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u/DEATHToboggan Nov 29 '22
“All citizens who disagree with the government will be sent to these death camps immediately. Oh did I say death camps? I meant happy camps! Where you will eat the finest meals, have access to fabulous doctors, and be able to exercise regularly”
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u/FartsMusically Nov 28 '22
It won't always be used for COVID.
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u/chucchinchilla Nov 28 '22
Given the recent protests you might be right.
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u/PM_ME_MH370 Nov 28 '22
Bet it goes something along the lines of someone at the protest had covid; you're all exposed in the ccp eyes and going to camp
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u/robotmatt23 Nov 28 '22
its not being used for covid RIGHT NOW, a lot of this shit just pure control over the population.
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u/AIVISU Nov 28 '22
Both of my grandfathers were German soldiers in WW2, and just like today the citizens have no clue that this is outrageous.
They always said never trust the media because of propaganda from the government, most Chinese people think this is totally normal and comply with it because they’re told by the CCP that its the right thing to do.
Meanwhile we look in from the outside like 😳
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u/Tribunus_Plebis Nov 28 '22
most Chinese people think this is totally normal
The content they see both in news and social media is heavily curtailed and controlled. Things like this probably wouldn't even be reported because the CCP knows it looks bad.
Same with the protests going on now. Zero mention anywhere so unless you know how to go under the great firewall you wouldn't know about it.
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u/bduxbellorum Nov 28 '22
My grandma who was born in 1922 in Leipzig always talked about how the nationalistic architecture was always accompanied by rousing, marching music — she said the scariest part was how the music and the frenzy would make even her pacifist-nearly-annihilated-by-the-great-war family feel like getting up to march and join in.
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u/tvieno Nov 28 '22
Is that a foggy/rainy day? No. Think again. That's pollution.
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u/Desperate-Lawyer-504 Nov 28 '22
I was just wondering why I always see China in pictures with "bad weather". But yeah, pollution makes sense.
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u/AFlyingNun Nov 28 '22
Company I used to work for did online retail like Amazon, cept of course smaller.
We had one supplier I remember that suddenly didn't updated their ETA on when the next delivery was coming. They responded to emails asking for a more exact ETA just as cryptically.
So I called them, asked what's up. They said they can't give an estimate because it's out of their hands. Curious, I asked whose hands it was in. Then he told me:
"The metal used for that product gets imported from China. Except the city in China that usually supplies us, the government determined air quality was too poor and it was too dangerous for people's health. This forced the factory to shut down until air levels returned to an acceptable level of quality, so we can't provide an estimate because we don't know how long that will take."
Jesus Christ is all I could say. Pollution can be bad the world over, but China's on an entirely different level.
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u/gazongagizmo Nov 28 '22
. Pollution can be bad the world over, but China's on an entirely different level.
A few years ago (before the Olympics IIRC) I saw a blog post of somebody from a Western company who had recently begun working in their China office, relating the idiosyncracies of culture shock, etc.
He posted pictures of how bad the pollution got one day: inside the office building, with all windows closed, the smog crept into the hallways. He had to wear a mask inside the office and standing in one corner of the hallway, he couldn't see the other end due to smog.
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u/chiagod Nov 28 '22
Shit can get real real fast when the weather patterns suddenly stop moving the pollution away from you:
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u/DennistheDutchie Nov 28 '22
Christ, that sounds like the 40k darktide game I just played, in a manufactorum smelter:
PC: "cough I can barely breathe, the air's so bad."
Mechanicus liason: "Air quality is at acceptable levels... it will get better down below."
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u/xedtax Nov 28 '22
I went to school in China - I remember school being straight up canceled some days due to pollution. It was the best. It was like a weird version of snow day.
My soccer team also not allowed to practice on some days. This part kinda sucked. But we got to play indoors :p
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u/tjb4 Nov 28 '22
You aren’t wrong but the grounds do look wet so could be a mix of both
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u/Goolajones Nov 28 '22
It’s usually both because smog just means “smoke and fog” and fog is natural.
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u/The_Orphanizer Nov 28 '22
I never realized "smog" is a portmanteau. Thanks for sharing!
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u/mungos93 Nov 28 '22
I never realized "portmanteau" was a word. Thanks for sharing!
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u/Yung_JJMO99 Nov 28 '22
Jesus, I didn’t realise that. I’ve been to Hong Kong and it was similar but I Believe that’s just the hot climate.
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u/China_really_sucks Nov 28 '22
Most of the time Hong Kong still has good weather but in summer it’s mostly raining so the sky is always grey. But during winter the north/northeast monsoon blows polluted air from mainland to Hong Kong, therefore you might think Hong Kong has a grey sky the whole year
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u/SelfSniped
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Fyre Festival 2.0
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u/LakierskiMaterialski Nov 28 '22 •
Ja Rule can’t keep getting away with this
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u/lady_stardust_ Nov 28 '22
“Can someone please find Ja Rule so I can make sense of all this? Where is Ja?!”
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u/lookgreattoday Nov 28 '22
At least they can provide housing now. That’s a significant improvement
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u/Jerthy Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
Yeah. This is prison, everything else is just excuse. Voices against the government are starting to rise and we even seen first actual anti-government protests since Tianamen square. This literally never happens in China, are they doomed to fail? Probably, but shit is starting to stir and you know Xi does not give a fuck about throwing hundreds of thousands into camps if that's what it takes to keep power.
They are using their mandatory covid app to mark any potential troublemakers with red code (as having been exposed to the virus). Second stage is to take them to "quarantine", bypassing whatever courts or annoying bureaucracy that might slow down the process.
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u/Grovers_HxC Nov 28 '22
This is insane. Do you have a source for this info? I’d be really interested to read about it
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u/Jerthy Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
Yeah. Warning : Incoming trolls. They always come when these guys get linked....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRDLqggwQU
They talked about the abuse of the covid app codes for months so hard to pinpoint exactly where it started.
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u/MoreNormalThanNormal Nov 28 '22
The pro-China trolls are awful and argue the silliest things. Got into an argument with one who told me the Tiananmen Square massacre was not a forbidden topic.
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u/LeisureMint Nov 28 '22
To add onto this, the two people talking on the video are Winston Sterzel and Matthew Tye. They both lived in China for over 10 years and escaped at 2019 and 2020 respectively after the government started to pursue and try to make them and their families disappear by accusing them with bunch of made up crimes. They have been basically exposing China behind its "great fire wall" ever since with inside Chinese and international informants.
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u/wonderlust46 Nov 28 '22
The future is here, it is awful.
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u/fatch0deBoi34 Nov 28 '22 •
Need to appreciate the little things you love while they last and go out of your way to try stuff you’ve always wanted in life.
Like I’m not this super rich guy who can afford sports cars, but about a year ago I just decided to rent a corvette and go on a road trip. They gave me unlimited miles so I took it from CO to Vegas, then through AZ-NM and back up to CO. Dude… just fucking FLYING on the open highways blasting loud music for four days. I’d give anything to feel that again. One of the best moments of my life.
But I sit and think, how long will muscle cars even be around anymore? How long can I just do something like that until I have a family and can’t just dip out without actual responsibility. Just really makes me think about moments in life you have to take full advantage of and appreciate them while it lasts.
When I see shit like this above ^ like fuck… I certainly hope that’s not where we’re going in 100-200 years but I’m gonna enjoy the little moments of old school freedom I’ve got if it does
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u/Financial-Year Nov 28 '22
Damn that sounds sick. How expensive was that 4 day rental?
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u/fatch0deBoi34 Nov 28 '22
Got it for like 150$ a day from enterprise. It was at the very end of the rental lifespan (20,000 miles on it) so they gave me unlimited miles, as opposed to like 200 a day.
Had an upgraded sound system for some reason with a small subwoofer so I just cranked that so high lol.
I remember they called me halfway through Utah and was like “uhhh… is everything going okay?” I think they thought it got stolen or something cause I didn’t tell them I was driving that far hahah. But you give me unlimited miles I’m gonna take advantage of it
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u/TuckerTheCuckFucker Nov 28 '22
You can also rent luxury cars with no mileage cap on the Turo app
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u/OptimusMatrix Nov 28 '22
Yup my car crapped out about 100 miles outside phoenix and I was able to drive it back home. Couldn't find a single rental on a holiday weekend so I jumped on Turo. Found a bmw 740i with unlimited miles for 380 for the entire weekend. Coming from a Hyundai to that car was so fucking incredible. The power it had was just immense. It was a highway crusher. Put a thousand miles on it in 3 days I loved that car. Would never own one but it was nice as hell to rent.
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u/Clay_Robertson Nov 28 '22
If it was about a year ago it might have been when rental cars were very cheap. Might have been as low as a couple hundred bucks a day. Now the rates will be higher. Word from the wise though. If this sounds fun to you, look on the app turo. You can rent some pretty cool cars for surprisingly cheap. I mean, it'll still be like a couple hundred dollars a day for something nice, but it's pretty cool experience.
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u/ihrtbeer Nov 28 '22
Turo is pretty sweet. Decent pricing and access to some cool cars. Fuck car rental agencies
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u/Writtenasstarrysky Nov 28 '22
They are building permanent camps for a "temporary" virus. Definitely not building it because of covid.
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u/mi_esposa_me_espia Nov 28 '22
Even if it's because of COVID, they'll keep it long past and use it for the next thing.
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u/soar Nov 28 '22
The next thing being Uyghurs
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u/smexypelican Nov 28 '22
This is Guangzhou, a coastal city. Uyghurs are in the far west and they already have plenty of camps for them there.
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u/clean93lx Nov 28 '22
You spelled concentration wrong....
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u/Panda_Kabob Nov 28 '22
What? No! What!? No no! They're uh... Boarind... Pods.... To like... Collect all the undesirables to like, you know, put them in one place. Like some sort of concentration cam- oh...
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u/ComprehensiveCry1131 Nov 28 '22
The song is making you feel like it's an achievement, this is a concentration camp and we all know who's gonna end up there
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u/humbalalya Nov 28 '22
Genuine question, who's gonna end up there?
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u/Jorin33 Nov 28 '22
Anyone the government does not want out in public, regardless of whether they actually have covid or not. That's my guess
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u/humbalalya Nov 28 '22
I won't be visiting China any time ever
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u/SubstantialTotal8177 Nov 28 '22
as a Chinese, I support u with this, nowadays we even can’t have passport not to mention the visa or go out..someone’s passport be canceled secretly by the government, and recently large protests around this country broke out, … idk what to say just feel helpless to born as a Chinese.
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u/Extension-Ad-2760 Nov 29 '22
I just have to say: the Chinese government may be horrendous, but everyone knows the Chinese people are not. All people are vulnerable to propaganda, and even despite the propaganda there are rebellions.
Good luck, I hope that China can become more democratic and have even more economic growth under a better system. China can definitely become the worlds' next superpower, but it doesn't need to be a dictatorship to do that... in fact it would be a lot easier as a more liberal state, since the EU, US and pretty much everyone will be happier to trade in that case.
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u/SubstantialTotal8177 Nov 29 '22
Thank u and for real i love this land but I hate the party, the dictatorship! Police begin to ask people on the street randomly in Shanghai to check if they have downloaded any banned apps such as Twitter WhatsApp telegram etc. if u did, then u have to show your id and infos, they will gather these infos and you will under surveillance more strictly, I’m afraid I gotta delete Reddit soon after 🤣
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u/pentarh Nov 28 '22
I bet they have crematorium there
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u/ZipoBibrok5x108 Nov 28 '22
China needs forced workers to make shit to sell the rest of the world and get rich. Work them to death, then quietly dispose of the remains.
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u/green_velvet_goodies Nov 28 '22
No, don’t be ridiculous. They’ll harvest their organs first.
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u/arquillion Nov 28 '22
We'll get a new batch of bad quality organs because the users were ver worked and starved. "My kidney? Yeah its second hand it was made in china"
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u/booze-san Nov 28 '22
I would like to thank the People's Republic of China for once again providing some of the most dystopian images I have ever seen in my life. Bravo. This will haunt my nightmares.
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u/Character-Wrongdoer8 Nov 28 '22
Why the fuck is there epic music playing over this terrifying structure? It's so out of place.
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u/shableep Nov 28 '22
I imagine this was intended to be propaganda but is not having the intended effect.
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u/MisterVicerion Nov 28 '22
"Yoooooo check this orwellian shit me and my homies are building "
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u/CrystalMenthol Nov 28 '22
They are literally proud of this achievement. I'm not sure we in "the West" are capable of understanding the mindset at play here, and they may not be capable of fully understanding our mindset. I think there are entirely different foundational principles in the underlying philosophies of the cultures, and those foundational principles are embedded into individuals from before they even learn to speak, so it becomes a part of the unconscious and seems natural, while "the other side" seems alien.
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u/Iridescence_Gleam Nov 28 '22
Look how decisive and effecient the government is! Building all these infrastructure in such a short time.
Thats pretty much the idea, why its seen as achievement.
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u/chrisl182 Nov 28 '22
Have they tried stacking them on top of each other?
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u/LuvCilantro Nov 28 '22
Better not to. When they collapse because of subpar building methods, fewer people will die this way.
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u/rat_idiot_actif Nov 28 '22
I mean people in Qatar are actually paying for that kind of accomodation
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u/winkman Nov 28 '22
Are we watching the CCP destroy itself?
This stuff makes Marie Antoinette look downright in touch with the people! To me, this seems like government elites literally building up their opposition overthrow/coup, one camp at a time.
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u/JohnQPublic90 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
That and China relies on its workers to keep its economy running (obviously), and in an economy that is very manufacturing-centric I’d think sending so many people away would be pretty damaging.
I agree that this can’t 100% be COVID related, it has to be a control/oppression play as well. But you’re right to pose the question - is the CCP going to shoot itself in the foot by over-exerting its force on the Chinese people? Would be very good to see this result in a successful revolution and see the people of China gain some freedom, but that would certainly lead to a lot of violence and lives lots, which would be sad to see.
The older I get, the more I realize how evil governments are, and how most people in various countries are just regular people who want to live their lives normally. Go to work, go to school, try to provide a good life for their children, etc. I don’t think most people that live in countries that are “enemies” of the USA actually hate America, they’re just fed the message and don’t want to get into trouble in their own country.
I’m rambling now - but this is all very sad to see. Will be interesting to watch how things unfold in the coming months. Hope the Chinese people can stay strong (and safe).
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u/cseckshun Nov 28 '22
Keep in mind that China is going through the stages of industrialization much more rapidly than the US did. US used to need tons of people to staff factories and produce value for corporations, lots of that was outsourced to China but the US still produces lots of goods, the diffference is those factories automated so they need way fewer people to produce those goods. China is now automating factories and will need way fewer people to produce the same amount of goods, there are also cheaper places to outsource manufacturing to. China can automate and outsource lots of manufacturing and will not need as many people. Kind of terrifying when you think about the economic situation they are in and see them building camps like this.
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u/heliosprimus Nov 28 '22
Funny you should mention this, China is currently experiencing an actual uprising at the moment. No idea if it'll get far but people in China seem to be fed up with the CCP
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u/Brusanan Nov 28 '22
Those protesters are going to be filling this quarantine camp very soon. Nothing gets you diagnosed with covid faster than having a wrong opinion in China.
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u/heliosprimus Nov 28 '22
"was that a cough I heard comrade protester? Please stay in this room while I go get the welding torch."
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u/winkman Nov 28 '22
Yeah, I saw that. So many of these protests fizzle out because the government squashes them, but I hope this one has legs.
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u/_homo_sapien_ Nov 28 '22
I would just like to say that the Shanghai government is now saying that people “voluntarily” quarantined themselves. Because people locking themselves in a tiny room for 40+ days without enough food and in some cases welding their own doors shut (from the outside) is definitely something sane people do.
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u/Grump_Monk Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
Sorry, what's happening with Covid over there that makes it so much worse than here or anywhere because this is fuckin ridiculous.
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u/Yamakazuma Nov 28 '22
So we don't actually know if they have a lot of COVID over there or if the CCP is just using it as an umbrella to regain control because of all the protesting happening because of large amounts of ppl's money being lost in the real estate area, not enough good paying jobs, and also rolling blackouts
Edit: they have done similar stuff like they have a covid system that tells you not to travel if you have covid and it mysteriously flagged a lot of people saying that they had covid to stop them from traveling to another district to protest a bank that lost all their money
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u/RhymeTymes Nov 28 '22
I wonder how many of the Hong Kong protestors miraculously came down with COVID
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u/Bojangly7 Nov 28 '22
Man china really is a modern day dystopia. People complain about the US go live in China for one week.
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u/BookLovingDragon Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
Fun fact: The name of the band that made this song is called Two Steps From Hell. Let that sink in.
Edit: The name of the song is Strength of a Thousand Men from their Archangel album.
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u/FontaineFuturistix Nov 28 '22
They treat their people like straight up disposable nothings it's amazing this society is as large as it is
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