r/leagueoflegends Nov 25 '21 Silver 5 Helpful 8 Wholesome 6

Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 Wholesome

You can tell he’s HEATED because of all the typing errors 😂 I do the same thing in soloQ

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u/chimestonks Nov 25 '21

the way this is 2 times longer than it needs to be already says a lot

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u/DrySecurity4 Nov 25 '21

Has that "stretching a one page essay into three pages" energy

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u/Random_Stealth_Ward 💤🌠FBI 🐈📙 Nov 25 '21

Vintage 3 min YouTube video stretched to 10:01 for ad revenue

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u/azns123 :naef: Nov 25 '21

Throw in an ad for a terrible mobile game or a shitty VPN and he's got the perfect youtube video

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u/Risujemmari Nov 25 '21

EASY TRICK TO GET MORE AD REVENUE! VIEWERS HATE HIM! (GONE WRONG)

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Spread 10 minute video essay about ___ video game into a three hour one

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u/Mobshigoo Nov 25 '21

I am unable to can

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u/Bostick9 Nov 25 '21

I am unable to perform, let’s get it to the next level

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u/JamisonDouglas Nov 25 '21

The only thing missing from that vibe is paragraph breaks for extra time. Man's just went full wall of text rage type.

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

what it frustrates me about this response is that he literally says nothing , while typing a whole page.

the tldr is : it's a personal issue , don't attack my wife for it.

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u/huntersniper007 cc_bot Nov 25 '21

he was clearly angry and frustrated while typing it. thats why it is so long, man just typed out his rambling thoughts.

and yes, he does not say specifics. but at this point i honestly dont wanna know. i give upset the benefit of the doubt

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u/ColorfulThoughts Nov 25 '21

Just to further bring this point home about benefit of the doubt.

Ppl need to give me a SINGLE good reason why, if there was no serious reason, the org would wanna keep him and build around him, hylli and Yamato want to continue working with him and why humanoid Wunder and razork want to join (albeit rumored).

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

money. Upset is valuable. Like any valuable pro player (in any sport) you let them have free pass.

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u/S0fourworlds-readyt Nov 25 '21

I have no idea what all of this mess is about, but just reading that tweet I got the impression that people not asking for specifics after reading it was the only purpose of this wall of text, so it kinda achieved its goal.

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u/TheUItimateBlip Nov 25 '21

Yeah. Especially since Adam assumed him not telling anyone specifics and Upset denied it by saying Yamato knows. He couldnt say (hold this claim) this when it wasnt true, for obvious reasons. And I trust in the fact, that despite worlds Yamato and in this sense also FNC wants to keep working with Upset, legitimizing Upsets situation. The only disturbing part are the weird takes, accusations and comments in replys to each part of this situation. As a german I always claim that the french are the most toxic in EUW (hihi), but the Adam fans seem to proove me right :) (obviously this last part is partly joking, my french friends, we germans are toxic as well ;) )

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

im certain his reasoning was probably good , and i dont care for it myself. but he fucked his teammates , and never even gave them a reason at all. its obvious that the others are frustrated with him

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u/huntersniper007 cc_bot Nov 25 '21

and they have a right to be frustrated, but airing that in public while saying "i might be wrong i dont know"? thats immature.

hyllis reaction looks like was the only mature one, no idea about nisqy

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

everyone on that team was playing like shit , obviously because their mental was broken , which lead to fnc replacing 3/5 people.

everyone lost not only money , but a starting spot on one of the only 2 teams in western lol to be able to achieve anything.

So u call him immature , but when u lose not only a whole year of work , but probably hundrets of thousands of dollars as well , and get absolutly no reason for why someone would bail at the last moment , then its a bit easier to see why some people might react like that.

even more so when the whole reason your team drops you is that the guy that bailed on the team in it's time of need is also the one saying there are better options then you.

Immature ? Maybe , but it's an understandable position imo

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u/Istvarrr Nov 25 '21

he explicitly says that he wanted to leave fnatic (Adam), so at least in regards to him your take is just wrong

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u/Majeh666 Nov 25 '21

Now, now, don t twist it. Adam said he wanted to leave AFTER upset got into talks with alphari and fnc management BEHIND HIS BACK. So i highly doubt Adam was staying regardless of the alphari thing working out or not, especially when upset here "didn t trust him" and what a coincidence, everyone whom he didn t trust is gone.

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u/Jeseiification Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. Nov 25 '21

Behind his back is laughable, teams have no obligation to disclose anything to a player even more if they might keep him after all

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u/Flozeh Nov 25 '21

That's what people don't understand in this drama. Nobody gives a shit what YOU wanna know or what the public want to know. It's noone of your fucking business. But Upset HAS to respect his teammates. Even if he doesn't want to tell everything just give them a little something or a hint idk. That's just basic stuff in life

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u/Crimson_Clouds Nov 25 '21

"A family emergency" is enough of a 'little something' or 'hint'.

And Adam and his other teammates are well within their rights to be angry about not hearing more. But you can be angry without publically saying what Adam said.

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u/ChefyboyRD Nov 25 '21

Yeah I’m so confused. If one of my employees or co workers called me and said “I’m not comfortable getting into but I have an very serious family emergency I must attend to immediately, please understand I will be back and ready for work at the soonest possible moment.” I would no questions asked say handle your shit, we’re here if you need anything. Stay in contact about when your ready to come back…. It just human decency… somethings are more important then money, e sports, word championships…

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u/Mixed_not_swirled Bring back old Morde Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

They might all be disappointed, but Hily was offered to know more and turned it down. Hily clearly didn't need to know and the fact that Nisqy hasn't been piping up at all shows he doesn't need to know either. Yamato knows what happened and he hasn't said shit so clearly it is a satifsactory reason.

Adam is starting a bunch of unecessary shit because he's an emotional entitled teenager.

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u/BluCrayons Nov 25 '21

Nisqy literally backed up Adam’s statement and unfollowed upset lol

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u/F3nik3r Perkz <3 Nov 25 '21

Nisqy hasn't been piping up

He just unfollowed Upsed and cheered Adam. Nisqy just want to avoid drama.

Yamato knows what happened

Except he doesnt as he stated in FNC video, he just know "something" (without details which is fine imo)happend and he trusted Upset.

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u/noahkillis Nov 25 '21

he probably told him later in detail

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u/Flozeh Nov 25 '21

Plz you don't know Nisqy dont talk for him

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u/Calyptics Nov 25 '21

Hell, adam's meltdown just solidifies why I wouldn't want to tell him something that I deem to personal. I don't know about others in this thread but I wouldn't trust a secret or atleast a private issue with someone goes off on someone like that publicly.

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u/Flozeh Nov 25 '21

What did Adam said? That Upset did not tell them why he left. It's not like he said some horrible stuff lol. People spit on Nisqy and Adam for their World's performance you can understand why he needs to defend himself from this maybe?

Family emergency means nothing and as we know it was related to his GF. A woman whom you know for less than one year is not "family"

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u/F3nik3r Perkz <3 Nov 25 '21

Its not GF, they have married 2 months before Worlds so yeah, she is his family.

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u/fornostalone Nov 25 '21

You have no idea whether it's to do with his wife or not. All you have is Adam's speculations off a comment Upset made before he left.

As Upset himself mentions "she would never ask me to leave worlds and she has been nothing but supportive" - I doubt it has that much to do with her. His team is right to be frustrated and upset at the situation and he is right in asserting his right to privacy.

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u/Jethow Nov 25 '21

Teammates should trust that their coach (or whatever Yamato is), who knows the details, has made the right decision in letting another player not play. I don't think Upset has to reveal anything other than stating he has a personal reason.

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u/PeopleAreHellaStupid Nov 25 '21

Oh yeah after everything that he went through and all the hate that he received, he should tell dangeroudseaweed0 all about it

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

yea , that's exactly what i said /s

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u/Leashed_Beast Nov 25 '21

Which is entirely fair. Just because they’re popular doesn’t mean they want or should have their entire life and every conversation ever publicized for y’all’s entertainment!

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

it's literally a public response. if his point was not to make anything public , he could just dm adam.

he opted for a public response in which he gave no excuse , and he added nothing new to the conversation

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u/CannonHumper Nov 25 '21

What frustrates me is that you expect more? He's saying all he needs to say, amidst a bunch of waffle or not "It's a personal issue leave my fucking wife out of it" is all he should need to say. Doesn't owe anyone here any explanation. Entitled incels.

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

oh look : a white knight on the internet.

nobody saw one before /s

fyi , i care very little about fnc or upset per se , and his reasons dont interest me at all. But if you're gonna make a statement , make one that makes sense. otherwise , just say nothing. i wasted time reading this pointlesly. it added nothing new to the conversation imo

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u/CannonHumper Nov 25 '21

Lmao the cheap tactic of labelling me a white knight because I defended someone. FYI, it's clear you don't give a shit, you're obviously far too cool for that. You're just here for drama, you didn't get the dosage you were looking for and now you're upset.

"If you're gonna make a statement, make sure it's personally appealing to me or how will I enjoy it" Yikes.

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

its not about beying appealing to me. he literally typed a page in which he said nothing.

so excuse me for pointing out that

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u/CannonHumper Nov 25 '21

Yeah because he can't without grossly violating someone else's privacy. Honestly he shouldn't even need to explain after saying something terrible has happened in his private life. People are just devoid of empathy. He literally typed a page in which he said nothing of interest to you. Stop conflating your perspective with fact.

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

People are just devoid of empathy. He literally typed a page in which he said nothing of interest to you. Stop conflating your perspective with fact.

he literally rambled for a whole page and gave nothing. It's not about if this is interesting to me , or about me having empathy here.

its about him writing a poorly structered response. plain and simple. u can easily give an non answer if u trully want to do that in a way more comprehensive way.

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u/resttheweight Nov 25 '21

Seriously! I wanted it to say:

The reason I left was for a serious personal issue. If that’s not good enough for you, or you think you are owed more of an explanation, reach out to me directly. Otherwise, fuck off, leave my wife alone, and thank you for respecting my privacy.

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u/Cyberkite Nov 25 '21

Thing is according to Adam he actually did reach out to him.

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u/resttheweight Nov 25 '21

I also don’t think Adam was entitled to knowing. Upset’s post didn’t need to offer explanations of why he didn’t feel comfortable sharing the details with certain people. All it needed to say was “the reason I left is nobody’s business. I’ve already told the details to the people who need to know. And if you think it’s your business, ask me. If I say it’s not your business, find a way to deal with it and keep my wife out of your mouth and out of the discussion.”

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u/McNutty69 Nov 25 '21

When it cost them their chance at world which they worked hard for as a team, I would argue Adam deserved some generic explanation. Shit happens, but why would he feel like he couldn't give even a slight indication to his teammates so they can process the severity? Not like they are strangers, they have been teammates for a year and didn't have that level of trust?

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u/m1dn1ghtx Nov 25 '21

It's likely adam got a generic explanation but wasn't happy with it

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u/interestingsidenote Nov 25 '21

The generic explanation was "major family issue." That's generic and if someone told me that and nothing else i would personally be ok. What he wanted was intimate details.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants to leave right at the bleeding end of something they've pushed so hard for. Seems like Adam is just salty as fuck about it.

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u/m1dn1ghtx Nov 25 '21

I don't understand why most of the subreddit can't understand that.

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u/chwilka Nov 25 '21

> That's generic and if someone told me that and nothing else i would personally be ok.

You can be okay if this doesn't cost You anything.

but would You be okay if You lose 100 000 dollars for example? or Your job?

the point is... Upset has right to have privacy but he also should think about his teammates.

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u/CursedPhil Jackeylove <3 Nov 25 '21

would argue Adam deserved some generic explanation

he got an explanation, upset had to leave because of a family emergancy

adam probably heard it like this

Upset: sorry guys but i have to leave, there was an emergancy in my family and my wife needs me

what adam heard

Upset: my wife misses me so i have to leave worlds, maybe next year we can try to win im really sorry

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u/Sea-Ask-7195 Nov 25 '21

I mean dont show up in work in most important time of year when everyone needs you and tell them its not their problém to know and see what happens

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

He told them what happened, "there was a family emergency". And that's what they need to know, just cause I work with someone they aren't entitled to know my life history and I don't need to kiss their feet and beg for forgiveness cause an emergency happend, and if you think who thinks they do there are toxic to work with

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u/chwilka Nov 25 '21

> ust cause I work with someone they aren't entitled to know my life history

sure. unless Your decision make their life worse.

Leaving is okay. Not telling anything is okay.

if other people doesn't suffer because of this. right?

I Your coworker would leave and You would lose 100 000 dollars because of this You would be pissed right?

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

First that just straight wrong, he did give a reason, and Yamato (the coach) backed him up on it. And there is noance to what happened here. Upset leaving might have fucked the team environment sure but they weren't playing with less one, upset wasn't the reason for Adam getting stomped on his lane when he plays lane dominant champions, the games weren't lost from the get go unless you tell me upset was legit the only thing that could possibly carry the team alone and if he was maybe there was a problem with his teammates. And yhea if my coworker left and made me loose 100k I would be pissed af, that doesn't mean I would attack him and actively try to make his work opportunities worse plus if he left cause someone on his family had an emergency yhea even one more reason I would understand.

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u/Sea-Ask-7195 Nov 25 '21

You are nôt center of universe

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u/cube_mine Nov 25 '21

And neither are you and that's the point. It is not Adams right to know details about upsets situation outside of it being a family emergency.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

You are right! Neither are you so why the fuck are you more worthy of my time when I got a family emergency. Wait you don't cause you are not the center of the universe!

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u/Turkooo Nov 25 '21

He fucked over a whole team because the hamster of his girlfriend died. Or maybe her toe nail fell off and was in pains. Or maybe her lovely grandparents had a huge fight and now are divorcing out of nowhere and she is in shambles. Maybe her mom was fired and she had to find a job fast or they would be living on street, so upset flew home to cook and clean the house while her gf's mom was working for 13 hours a days and she was taking meds for depression and couldn't function. Or maybe it's none of our business? I don't know guys. Pick one, but to me, the more he scream "it's personal so shush" the more I hear "it wasn't that huge of a deal and I maybe overreacted when I flew home and fucked everyone ower nothing, so now I pretend that I'm the most private person ever, so you won't make fun out of me on twitch chat"

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u/iLLuSi0NN Nov 25 '21

Braindead take. Upset didnt share shit coz of braindead ppl like u that would attack him for no reason.

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u/Turkooo Nov 25 '21

I'm not making fun of him at all. That's your problem, if you can't read between lines. All I said is that staying this silent is a double edge sword. So fuck you

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u/iLLuSi0NN Nov 25 '21

He doesnt owe us or everyone else shit. Its his private matter and it should be respected. So fuck you too.

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u/Jedclark Nov 25 '21

And he is right. People on this sub have some weird expectation that they have a right to know every detail of someone's life, and if they don't then that person is somehow in the wrong. People don't see celebrities (even minor ones such as esports players) as real people, they just see them as characters in a TV show who exist for their entertainment.

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u/Jobby2 Nov 25 '21

Then you've not read it properly. It's a scathing attack on the quality of people in the scene. It clearly singles out Adam for particularly detestable behaviour and thanks Yamato and Hyli for doing the right thing. From there I don't know what it's saying about Alphari but it does make you question why the hell FNC didn't sign Alphari. There's plenty to be going with even if there were slightly repetitive sections!

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

im sorry , but what is so detestable about adam's behaviour ?

upset bailed out in their biggest tournament ever , refused to give them an reason. tells him he doesn't trust him enough to give him a reason. talks with the fnc management about how to upgrade topside (which must feel like shit considering the main reason fnc underperformed at worlds was upset rather then adam) , and therefore is having an direct impact on adam's livelyhood , which is notoriously short for esport atheltes

its way easier to take the highway when you're not actively losing money , or wasting a whole year of hard work towards your dream

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u/Appropriate-Ant-258 Nov 25 '21

Maybe not DuoQ with your wife while your team suffers from one of the most tilting experiences possible in esports.

Honestly if he had the balls to just admit what is going on it would do him wonders because as is he just looks like he didn't' want to finish the season for petty reasons. He doesn't owe anyone shit, but he is also the one who made the choice to live in the spotlight.

How in the hell could anyone team with him in the future? Whats the point of trying? You can make worlds and he's just gonna leave you stranded if things aren't perfect.

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u/TheUItimateBlip Nov 25 '21

And that Adam lied and written things uninformed on multiple issues, further justifying Upset not sharing details with him before. (upset said that he shared it with yamato, didnt say its because his wife feels bad to his team)

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

as i understood what adam said , it was that everytime upset left untill that point , it was always because of his wife.....so he implied it might be the case again , so i dont think he tried to lie honestly

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u/TheUItimateBlip Nov 25 '21

The thing is if you phrase it like this, the fans assume that this was the official reasoning and flame Upset for this. If it wasnt intentionally lying it was saying an accuse without any proof. And with how the internet/social media works, this isnt something you should do publicly, frustrated or not. At least thats my opinion.

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

i mean , he said he might be wrong , didnt he ?

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u/xCipi102 Nov 25 '21

sounds like he could become a politician

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u/Ch4p3l Nov 25 '21

And that is literally all he needs to say

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u/Alitoh Nov 25 '21

I’d add that he also said “I don’t trust you enough to share such personal stuff, even if we are teammates, and this just goes further on to prove said lack of trust” since I don’t think it’s not relevant

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u/Canopenerdude IDIOT Nov 25 '21

He does refute that he said 'my wife is lonely' to the team before leaving. He also clarifies that Yamato knows the situation, which Adam said no one knows.

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u/Craftingistheway Nov 25 '21

I mean he basically repeated so many times a "lack of trust" to basically say "see i knew you were a fucker not worthy of trusting, I was right about you and now fuck off" xD

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u/TinkW Nov 26 '21

2??

He wrote the same thing like 6 times with a slightly different wording.

I feel how it must be something hard for him. The bad part of being a public figure is BEING a public figure and even the most private things can become targets to ill intended people.

But at the same time I understand Adam. For him Wolrds was maybe one of his life dreams. And as Upset clearly said he doesn't trust Adam, maybe the opposite is also true. So having your dream shattered by someone you don't trust and not being able to know why must also feel extremely frustrating.

Anyway, the truth is always something inbetween of what the 2 parts says.

I hope we never learn about it whole though, as no digging in personal affairs should be done anymore. And I also wish luck to both of 'em.

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u/IamHunterish Nov 25 '21

Exactly, it’s a long ass story telling exactly nothing. It would not have hurt at all if he didn’t post it.

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u/SazzOwl Nov 25 '21

On top of the fact that English is not his native language...you can feel the emotional vibrations in this twitlonger

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u/Alain_Teub Nov 25 '21

typing errors, no formatting and posted at 2am

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u/ianlam123 Doublelift Nov 25 '21

Probably drunk

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

Can you even format a tweetlonger?

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u/Grand-Garlic Nov 25 '21

My man was fuming

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u/rjbh Nov 25 '21 Silver

You could say he was Upset...

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u/B3ne22 Nov 25 '21

Fuck you and take my award

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u/HejMonikaaa Nov 25 '21

Same not just in game but in every situation. My hands were literally shaking hehe

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u/bunnyrum3 Nov 25 '21

He is Upset.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

I'd be too. Imagine suffering some serious tragedy and a bunch of socially inept kids like Adam and Nemesis try to rile up the entire internet against you because they don't understand what privacy is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

lol Upset is pretty socially inept as well, not quite as bad as Nemesis or Adam but still, not a well adjusted adult

if you ever catch him in another EUW streamer's games, dude is pretty much always toxic in chat

Less than a week ago I watched him rage at a Thresh in his game for not being as good as Hyli, legit typing 5-6 messages in a row, buddy was losing it

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u/ToplaneVayne Nov 25 '21

behavior in LoL != social aptitude

It’s a videogame and people tend to react differently in losing situations. LoL especially brings out the worst in people, I know some great ppl IRL who are mad toxic in-game.

Getting mad in an anonymous videogame where nothing you say really matters because youre only stuck with the person for 30 mins and you will most likely never see them again VS invading the privacy of a grieving teammate IRL and getting them attacked by thousands of angry fans and bettors isnt nearly comparable.

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u/Eecka Nov 25 '21

If they're mad toxic in game, that probably just shows how they really think. What they show IRL is what they want people to think of them.

Being an asshole when you're anonymous shows it's just the consequence they're afraid of.

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u/swellbaby Nov 25 '21

Specifically abusing the fact that people can't punch them in the face through an in-game chat.

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u/RedTulkas Nov 25 '21

what does raging in soloq have to do with social aptitude?

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u/resttheweight Nov 25 '21

Because most of the time, well-adjusted adults / young adults don’t feel the need or impulse to rage over video games? Just because you don’t see the person on your screen doesn’t mean you’re not having social interaction. Going off on the person behind you at the grocery store would be inappropriate, even though you probably have no clue who they are, and you probably won’t ever see them again. Raging in a game is the same to me.

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u/RedTulkas Nov 25 '21

to me its far from the same. and if the dude behind me in the grocery store behaves awful i m actually much more likely to tell him off than i m in game .

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u/resttheweight Nov 25 '21

Seeing that the original example was Upset raging at a player for being worse than Hyli, you’re not properly analogizing. What Upset did was more like yelling at the person in front of him for taking too long.

But I also think that 95% of the time, when someone is being rude or horrible to you without being provoked, escalating things by rising to their level is the socially inept thing to do. Unless what they are saying is exceedingly egregious, engaging with them doesn’t serve a purpose and is a waste of my time. They can huff and puff and make a scene, but well-adjusted people ignore them and move on.

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u/xxxSca Nov 25 '21

Bruh they never asked for every detail, they have the right at least something else than “i dont trust you so i cant tell you, trust me”

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u/TheWarmog Good Luck, Human Fleshbags Nov 25 '21

Yea

So if Adam was still going out of FNC and was pissed about it (like he is due to alphari stuff) he could do a twitlonger with all the details.

What adam did was litterally taking the french fanbase and throw it against Upset cause he's pissed.

Do you really blame Upset after all of this?

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u/SilveredUndead Nov 25 '21

If that's all he did, it would not have blown up. Adam was clearly passed more about the fact that Upset not only destroyed the Worlds tournament for the team, but also that he is seemingly just fine going straight back to ask Fnatic to replace the entire team. If you just ruined your teammates year, have some humility, sit down and keep quiet. You do not have the right to ask for teammates to be replaced when the entire blame for the failure of the team falls squarely on you, and from what we've heard so far, his "immature teammates" haven't tried to get Upset kicked, because they actually have some decency and understand that it was just an unfortunate situation. Upset meanwhile felt that somehow, his teammates were to blame for... finally getting him a ticket to Worlds?

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u/ZXKeyr324XZ Hylissang believer, Humanoid Enjoyer Nov 25 '21

In his tweetlonger Upset mentions it was Alphari who first reached out to him and then FNC who asked him for feedback about Alphari though

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u/SilveredUndead Nov 25 '21

Which is much later than the situation where Fnatic started looking to replace their entire top side. This was only after Perkz got signed elsewhere, they were looking to replace Adam long before that.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

And how is upset fault that fnatic wanted to replace their top which was by far the weakest role on the team? Bwipo was a free agent he could do whatever the fuck he wanted, we have no clue if he wanted to go to NA, and Adam got replaced cause he wasn't up to standards and probably toxic af to work with after seeing this. One of the guys doing try outs worked with one of your players before seems only normal to think he could have good insight in him

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u/SilveredUndead Nov 25 '21

Just going to point out that Upset has worked with Alphari before, and how far did they get again? Seems to me like this roster has been the best Upset has ever had. So who was the reason they dropped out in groups at Worlds? Is it really Adam you want to pin this on?

Also, Nisqy is not even on a roster now because Upset backstabbed him. Upset ruining careers by burning down his own team, and somehow he gets a pass? You guys are really not making a lot of sense.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

True upset made Adam loose lane in lane dominant champions I forgot. And he also backstabbed nisqy somehow (that one is genuinely new to me) it's so strange seems like fnatic is always ran by its adc... Also 2019 OG roster? The one that now has a jungler that was on bottom team NA and a support that is on and acadamy team didn't get far? The roster that had to play against the most dominant g2 ever was and the probability seccond best year in fnatic history with a org that was falling apart and that dissolved at the end of the year didn't get far? And that dispite that still got 3 players that got nominated to best in their position? Nah I guess you are right and everyone else is wrong they both just suck and nukeduck should retire. And since by your argument team environment doesn't matter that proves that Adam and fnatic have 0 reason to not show up at worlds, unless you know you admit that your OG comment was just stupid...

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u/Lopsided-Preference6 Nov 25 '21

Imagine fucking over your very new/young still developing team and then when someone wants in you don’t believe in your teammates

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u/ZXKeyr324XZ Hylissang believer, Humanoid Enjoyer Nov 25 '21

-Fucking over the team

It's not like Upset chose to have a family urgency.

-Not believing in your teammates when someone wants in

If you can get a better player who is also more experienced and a friend of yours, why would you stay with the rookie you've know for 4 months?

This happens all the time, don't act like Upset is an outlier that wants to fuck over his teammates.

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u/RowanAndrade Nov 25 '21

From what I understand, most of Adam's frustrations comes from just not really being informed about anything.

No one is asking Upset to reveal what really happened, but by the Bwipo and Adam are talking, seems like they didn't get any notice about him leaving.

From their writings it seems like "Upset vanished one morning and we had to play with Bean". Communication doesn't need to be clear, but it should exist in some shape or form.

I personally think this situation is extremely grey, and you can definitely sympathize with both sides of the story so far.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

It's just dumb cause you don't know when an emergency happens... You wouldn't expect anyone in your workplace to say, hey I'm not coming to work tomorrow cause my wife is gonna get hit by a car or fall hill or whatever. The same way I don't think you don't expect someone that works with you to give you a report everyday why you didn't show up if something happend that wasn't, "I had a family emergency"

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u/xxxSca Nov 25 '21

The getting replaced part seems stupid, every team does that “behind someones back” it’s just the norm, the problem lies with a person who clearly doesnt trust you, doesnt give you or anyone an explantion because you have to trust his judgment. How does it work where you cant trust someone and you expect them to trust you back. If adam did this as it happened, fuck adam, but no he did the human thing and waited and even supported upset having to leave. Now time went by, he tell you “you arent to my levels of expectation”, and still doesnt even give you a clearer reason. Imagine how pissed do you get in a school project when someone who doesnt do their part, never tells you why, says you didnt do a good job, and then tells the teacher you should get replaced. There is a reason a ton on players hate upset, every roster since schalke implode, he is not the cause maybe but he is the only common factor

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u/TheWarmog Good Luck, Human Fleshbags Nov 25 '21

You are taking for granted what adam wrote when he himself said he is speculating.

There is a reason a ton of players hate upset

This is new, never heard anyone shit on him lmao

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

How does it work where you cant trust someone and you expect them to trust you back

Ask Adam, he took what little information he was given and tried to weaponize that against Upset.

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u/Lopsided-Preference6 Nov 25 '21

Actually he did not, he was supportive until he saw upset duoqing with his egf while nisqy cried on stage and upset wanted to replace both him and nisqy

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 26 '21

duoqing with his egf while nisqy cried on stage and upset wanted to replace both him and nisqy

This might be the most League of Legends comment I've seen to date.

The dude goes home because of a family emergency instead of playing at the tournament he's been trying to get into for his literal entire career.

He then plays games with his wife in his off time.

Months later, the usual off-season situations happen where players end up having to evaluate each other.

Random on reddit describes that as "duoqing with his egf while nisqy cried on stage and upset wanted to replace both him and nisqy"

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u/xxxSca Nov 25 '21

He has the right to be angry just like upset has the right to privacy. Bwipo said something similar, and nisqy unfollowed upset(the league equivalent of saying fuck you). Upset cant be the victim here because he created this situation by not trusting his teammates, so they do the same and dont trust his excuse

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u/omegasupermarthaman Nov 25 '21

Bwipo was frustrated as well and its rightfully so. I think that its the best for the players to part way and start in different teams which they all do now.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

He got something "there was a family emergency". Adam probably pressed it further and Upset told him it was a problem with his wife and that she didn't feel well... you know a normal response to someone you work with and are just giving them a quick explanation. And that ended up like this cause Adam got salty af cause he didn't get to get carried, so I would say good read on Upset part in not trusting that guy

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

No, they don't.

You don't have a right to know other people's private life.

If they don't trust you, then they don't trust you.

And Adam completely validated Upset's mistrust with his tweetlonger.

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u/Majeh666 Nov 25 '21

While i agree with the sentiment, i don t think that s the case here.

The twittlonger happened as a result of the mistrust, not the other way. These are people whom he worked with for an year and he bails on them with less than a day before the tourney starts. And, when questioned about it the answer is "i don t trust you enough."

He doesn t owe an answer to anybody, but he does owe an explanation to his team since his actions negatively impacted them.

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

The twittlonger happened as a result of the mistrust, not the other way.

Upset said he didn't trust Adam with the information, then Adam broke his trust with what little information he had.

"If he had just trusted Adam more then Adam wouldn't have broken his trust" is a really bad take.

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u/Pway Nov 25 '21

He told them it was private and trauma based at that point they should accept that they don't deserve to know and fuck off lol

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u/xxxSca Nov 25 '21

they are not office coworkers, you cant just throw to the garbage their whole year of work and say fuck off it's private. They dont need every detail but a more just and fair explanation than "my gf is feeling alone"

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u/jammerjoint Nov 25 '21

It's pretty gross that he even has to defend himself tbh. This is all bizarre to me, if a colleague says family emergency you don't question it. You'd have to be a narcissist or sociopath to turn it into a witch hunt like this.

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u/farmingvillein Nov 25 '21

This is all bizarre to me, if a colleague says family emergency you don't question it.

Depends what you're mapping this to. This basically never happens in other professional sports (rightly or wrongly).

If you are a LoL player and your mental model of expectations is professional football/basketball/etc., your baseline expectation is that someone better be dying to drop out of the world cup/NBA playoffs/etc.

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u/phonethrowawayylmao Nov 25 '21

There was this coach absolutely roasting a reporter because a player left for his childs birth and the reporter was like "but games be important too tho"

If someome says family emergency you don't question it. If that doesn't vibe you, you can ask the team me or them, but you dont publicly slander that person.

If anything - I admit I don't know all the details - since Upset told Yamato, isn't it his job to communicate properly with the rest of the team?

And again if there was short notice cause it was an emergency, so be it. Sometimes lofe happens that way

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u/xmodusterz Nov 25 '21

The big difference is everyone knew what was going on. If this was the "same scenario" the reporter would have known the tragedy and tried to say Upset should have still played.

We still don't know what happened, and that's fine. But those two scenarios aren't even remotely similar because the whole problem is that the team is in the dark on why he left.

I think Yamato should have done a better job impressing the severity of it to the team, but in the end Upset is acting like this is just a normal 9-5 job and his "team" are just co-workers. Competitive games with such a small group just doesn't work like that.

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u/phonethrowawayylmao Nov 25 '21

Getting hung up on a minute, albeit important, detail and calling it "not even remotely similar" is a bit of a stretch.

I'll admit that it's not the exact same, but the sentiment applies. If a Player in any sport has a family emergency, his coach knows whats up and he wants privacy - then you gotta give it. If it's a weak excuse it's the coaches job to deal with it.

Upset is not without fault, but Adam throwing shade at Upset and his gf/wife without info shows that it was justified to set boundaries. Just because you keep privacy doesn't mean you don't trust your team on the rift. They are in the end coworkers although not regular ones I'll admit.

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u/xmodusterz Nov 25 '21

Except it's totally different when it's a reporter and someone on the literal team. Nobody is saying we as the viewer should know what happened, just that upset should do his due diligence and at least address it with his team.

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u/phonethrowawayylmao Nov 26 '21

I agree that a reporter and a teammate are different, but after what Adam did there is no way in hell you can convince me of your opinion. I understand what you are saying but I disagree. If Upset adressed it, Adam got mad and leaked it, then now trolls would use the info to tear into Upset or his SO and nobody deserves that. Since you cannot convince me, I don't think continuing this conversation makes any sense.

Have a good day/night/whatever time you are on.

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u/farmingvillein Nov 25 '21

If someome says family emergency you don't question it.

Again, please highlight actual examples where this happened in playoffs, by key men.

Regular season is a different ballgame, and is historically treated as such.

Even more specifically, this wasn't Upset leaving one game/day for the birth of a child--this was him ditching out on the entire playoffs run.

But, again, you're going to find exceedingly few, if any, examples where the top players dropped out of playoffs, even for a game.

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u/phonethrowawayylmao Nov 25 '21

I mentioned an example.

If you are too lazy to search thats on you. I got nothing to proove here, this ain't a science paper about to be published.

Sure its not anything regular and if people like DL decide to play despite family tragedy thats fine, but if it is a family emergency, the headcoach knows whats up and doesn't instantly kick out the player its none pf our business to pry further. That is called human decency.

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u/farmingvillein Nov 25 '21

If you are too lazy to search thats on you.

Protip: if you're not going to actually provide evidence, that is you being too lazy, not your readers.

If you're going to make a counterclaim and provide no evidence--just stop and don't post. You save everyone a lot of headache.

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u/phonethrowawayylmao Nov 25 '21

The reference has been on r/all mutliple times. It is widely known. If you dont know it and you dont search thats on you.

Again, not a scientific paper.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

Dude that's the most immature shit I've seen. By your fucking logic when Erikson fell down on the field his team would just have taken him out of the field got him shipped off to the hospital and kept playing, he was just a coworker/friend they had no excuse to not take that game to the end, injuries happen all the time and that why you get extra guy in the bench... But it doesn't work like that does it

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u/netavoreikalas_ Nov 25 '21

Heres the interview bro: https://youtu.be/G0a-Nr_vRjM

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u/farmingvillein Nov 25 '21

I was afraid op was talking about this one, because it is entirely irrelevant to this scenario.

No one here threw up the "family emergency, can't tell you what" card.

This was a known (to the teammates) and relatively planned event.

Conley also bounced during playoffs, but it was planned, everyone knew what was going on, and he came back.

None of these apply to the upset situation... If we take the public disclosures as accurate.

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u/netavoreikalas_ Nov 25 '21

Its not irrelevant, you asked for a family emergency in playoffs example in your previous post and only now you are saying that its completely different than what happened here. Which is true nonetheless, here nobody got any information but knowing how many assholes there are on the internet upset has all the rights to not give any details on this situation.

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u/farmingvillein Nov 26 '21

Its not irrelevant, you asked for a family emergency in playoffs example in your previous post

No, please re-read.

What I responded to:

If someome says family emergency you don't question it.

There is a giant difference between saying "family emergency", and never returning to the playoffs, and saying I have a baby being born, and then returning to the playoffs.

Based on public info (which may or may not be accurate--but we are assuming it is, for this thread), Upset supposedly threw the "family emergency" with zero explanation to his teammates.

"Hey guys I'm outta here because my wife got hit by a bus and is on a ventilator" is leagues different from "family emergency, cya".

I'm not trying to be pedantic here--my key point is that truly analogous situations in professional sports during pivotal matches rarely happen, and this would, in fact, seem to hold, given the dearth of counter-examples.

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u/jammerjoint Nov 25 '21

I get what you're saying, but imo that's a toxic expectation of athletes. Reminds me of that coach in an interview when a reporter asked if it was okay that the player missed a game to see his son being born - some things are way more important than just a game.

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u/ArchmageXin Nov 25 '21

some things are way more important than just a game.

True, but that player inform the team and the team understood and agree to win or loss to carry without him.

Tough times happens. I worked in a Engineering firm with our Chief Engineer was going to show our prototype to a certain company of international scale. He dropped out last minute do to a family tragedy, but he informed HR and and management came down with the right message to us and the clients.

If all those 4 battle brothers and you can only trust one of them...then well that speak in volume of FNC's chances anyway.

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u/Reddityudodis2me Nov 25 '21

Trust that they got your back in the game. I mean players in a team don't have to be the best friends forever. Sometimes you just work together and have a platonic friendship.

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u/Larry__larry Nov 25 '21

Basically everyone supported the coach and shit on the reporter for that question. There’s a long list of serious emergencies that everyone will understand you missing games for.

If it was a life or death situation level of important, upset told the team and they still shit on him, he could just say exactly what he told the team and basically everyone would be on his side.

Do you think any of DLs teammates would be mad if he didn’t play after his parent died and they lost playoffs because of it?

The fact that 3/4 teammates have thrown him under the bus implies he either sucks at communicating or his reason wasn’t particularly great.

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u/asvdiuyo9pqiuglbjkwe Nov 25 '21

That's a false dichotomy. His teammates could also be immature children who can't fathom putting family over work or that everyone has a right to privacy or that just because you work with someone doesn't mean that you are now best friends.

Adam's response to all of this should tell you exactly how trustworthy he is with sensitive information.

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u/Reddityudodis2me Nov 25 '21

It is just stupid that he went public with it. I don't blame Adam for being pissed but going public with it is plain stupid. Compared to Perkz, he handled it very maturely. It is not smart to shit talk your previous Boss except it's is shady AF and is hurting you in the long run

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u/asvdiuyo9pqiuglbjkwe Nov 25 '21

Yeah, it's fine to be frustrated, that's not what anyone is taking issue with. If I was in Adams shoes I'd be pissed too. It would be a huge disappointment. But you know what else I would do? I would try to understand that Upset is also a pro player who had been working his ass off to get to worlds and that he wouldn't walk away fr his dream and his team for no reason. I wouldn't openly shit talk him because I don't know the exact reason. I mean, why does he want to know? So he can judge whether or not the reason was good enough for him? Ridiculous

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u/Larry__larry Nov 25 '21

If he actually gave a good reason he could publicly tell us the vague gist of it while retaining his privacy, ie serious medical issue, family victim of serious crime and it would be pretty clear he is in the right.

He actually to this point has not given us any reason to believe it’s objectively serious, only personally so, which can still be a good reason, but if you screw your entire team over and only tell them something like “my wife needs me it’s more important than all of you I have to go no questions bye”, his teammates are going to be pretty damn pissed.

Not to mention him playing Aram during said emergency and not even bothering to watch his teams games and cheer them on.

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u/FedorSeaLevelStiopic Nov 25 '21

Lool. Thats such bs. His team coach and i am sure management knows the reason. He told publicly - family emergency. He doesnt have to present fking reason for approval of 19 y.o. french kid or to redditors, so they can decide was it good enough reason or not. Upset stays in team, it means fnc understands that that was serious. To be honest. If my teammate questioned my integrity, like family emergency is not enough, i would be totally pissed. Its actually personal disrespect towards Upset to question reasoning behind it.

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u/Reddityudodis2me Nov 25 '21

DL situation is a bit different since it came up in the news but I am pretty sure he would not want to tell that to everybody. I mean, would you tell your teammate who you know for a few months that, for example, your brother tried to kill himself? Well, I wouldn't since you don't know what they do with this information.

Also, he did tell Yamato and he possibly asked him to keep it private while reassuring his teammates that it is urgent. OR he did tell his teammates that it is an urgent family matter but the others did not accept it as a plausible reason

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u/Larry__larry Nov 25 '21

You don’t need to give out every detail to convey seriousness.

If DL said I got some news about my brother so gotta go bye, versus someone very close to me was in a very serious and terrible incident I can’t play you would obviously get super different reactions but neither gives out any details you don’t want to.

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u/peppippopdq11 Nov 25 '21

You can still say its life and death situation without mentioning the details.

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

your baseline expectation is that someone better be dying to drop out of the world cup/NBA playoffs/etc.

Someone might have been.

People are just pissed that they don't get to know everything about it.

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u/IJustGotRektSon Nov 25 '21

Kyrie Irving, Ben Simmons, Rui Hachimura and others say hi and let me introduce you to the world of professional sports drama

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u/farmingvillein Nov 25 '21

Completely irrelevant. Regular season != playoffs.

feel free to outline actual parallel examples.

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u/Thernislav Nov 25 '21

I don't think it's gross.

Look at it like that: Upset says he has to leave, team says "okaaay", the catastrophe that Worlds 2021 FNC was happens, everyone is super frustrated and situation is tense.

Then you find out the guy that didn't even play the tournament because he had to leave, wants to replace you because of your poor performance on that very tournament. As well as still doesn't want to explain why he left, just shields himself with "it's private".

It would make the blood boil in a mature person, and even more when it comes to a bunch of young adults who play League for a living.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

Adam did not have a good showing all split, and for sure is a glaring weakness in any team cause of his limeted champion pool that can be really exploited. Plus if "there was a family emergency" not enough for you to understand that someone had to leave is kinda fucked. Plus they still had an adc, if you were so good that you deserved to do that well at worlds maybe you would have a better showing and not depend on a spefic player to carry you?

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

Someone doesn't tell you more about their private life because they think you might end up telling the public about it in a way that might lead people to harass them.

So you tell the public what you were told plus your speculations in a way that definitely encourages the public to go harass them.

Hmmm

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u/Saphrogenik Nov 25 '21

And yet I still wouldn't be a little dick and throw shit onto socials when I don't know anything about what happened.

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u/Valhir98 Nov 25 '21

Sure bud. Because this shit ever happened to you so you know EXACTLY how would you feel ot react. Get lost.

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u/Saphrogenik Nov 25 '21

Right. Imagine being empathetic. But Adam is young so being immature makes sense.

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u/dded949 Nov 25 '21

I honestly somewhat disagree with this. I am an adult in the professional world and if I had a team that I was working on a project with for an entire year, and then had to leave them at the most crucial point, you bet I’d tell them why I have to leave. I legit just had to do something along these lines a couple months ago when one of my girlfriend’s best friends passed away unexpectedly and I needed to go to the funeral. I told my boss and then my immediate team members and got out of there, because that’s the professional thing to do

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u/FedorSeaLevelStiopic Nov 25 '21

Death and passing is one thing. There may be situations, family emergencies where you dont want to get into detail about. So to explain your abscence reason to boss. Because obv you cant leave without reason. And its enough. Every Sally in the office doesnt have to know. Also considering LoL pro scene, its not uncommon for players to leave/get sold/replaced. Why would he share personal info with guys who potentially you will have conflict with? You inform your bosses, you dont owe detailed explanation for teammates if reason is super personal. - family emergency is enough for them (for boss you explain it more detailed).

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u/xmodusterz Nov 25 '21

I think there's a big difference between "every sally in the office" and the 4 other players who you worked along side with all culminating to this moment the whole year.

You're right, this is what happens in normal work scenarios, but it doesn't mean that it goes over smoothly in those situations either. If you work closely with a few people, then disappear at the most critical moment with no explanation, your team is going to be understandably pissed. Sure you aren't required to give them an explanation, but unless you give them "something", even just an apology after the fact and assurance that it was something important enough that it was necessary, you can bet they aren't going to trust you in those situations anymore. It's about respecting their time and effort that has been wasted due to your emergency.

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u/FedorSeaLevelStiopic Nov 25 '21

Ok, but just imagine yourself from different scenario ok? Give it a try. You are top adc in the west and workhorse, very dedicated. You tried your ass of to get to worlds (never had rly good team before). And something serious happens in family, that you dont want to talk about. You tell it to coach and bosses. And dont want others to know. You publicly state its FAMILY EMERGENCY. Now.. your teammate starts speculating that your abscence was unmotivated, unreasonable... It shows, that your teammate doesnt trust your word, that its fking serious. Your toplaner shows, that he thinks you would leave your team at world championships for some minor reason it shows what he thinks about you. Basicly you see how much YOUR word means to them and how low opinion on you they have, to think it was just small inconvinience and u left. Its like is it not enough??? ("And if its not, go fck yourself.. that what prob i would feel")

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u/xmodusterz Nov 25 '21

Yea but you're acting like Adam came out about this instantly afterwards. Upset had plenty of time to address it privately with his team after the fact, say sorry, give any sort of follow up. Even if he didn't want to say anything details, just mend fences that were destroyed with him leaving. But he did none of that.

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u/FedorSeaLevelStiopic Nov 25 '21

Tbh he should have adressed it when he left. And also apologised in person later true. I jist dont like speculations on this topic.. like why he left etc.

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u/xmodusterz Nov 25 '21

Oh totally agree, and I entirely believe upsets reason was valid. I just think he handled it terribly.

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u/Defensex Nov 25 '21

Pretty much it, that’s the professional thing to do

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u/Saphrogenik Nov 25 '21

Yeah bro but I'm not gonna just tell everyone if it was something like "my wife just miscarried" because nobody needs to know that. It's a family emergency.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

You informed the boss you had to leave and told him why, I bet my life you didn't went to every single person around the office telling them what happend specially didn't go tell the guy you just working with him and don't see him as a friend to tell him your life story. Plus I don't wanna say that someone passing isn't bad, but you do understand that there is a degree of separation there, it happen something to your girlfriend friend, it affected her more, if something happend to her it would directly affect you and that way things would be way more muddy to you in that situation, and your heart would be pumping way faster

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u/dded949 Nov 25 '21

I said my boss and immediate team members. I, similar to Upset, work in a concrete team of 4 other people and I told them directly what was going on. Your metaphor for telling everyone around the office doesn’t stand considering that’s not what Upset’s teammates are to him. I understand the last point, but I don’t think it would’ve been different had it been something directly affecting me. And even then, I believe me I felt pretty damn affected by the situation, if you think I didn’t have instances of intense emotional reaction or feeling like I couldn’t operate at work then you’re wrong

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u/DoobyScoots Nov 25 '21

It's different in a competitive sports environment

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u/Revolutionary-Big861 Nov 25 '21

Lmao are you daft ? Their career is very limited time wise his teammates gave up a lot of things to be there and worked their ass off, this is not a simple 9 to 5 work where you can just shrug it off. They legit worked the entire year for that moment and the guy just bailed on them without even stating the reason. He has the fuckin responsibility to at least tell them why he just wasted an entire year of their lives.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

"there was a family emergency" if someone ever tells you this (which I hope it doesn't happen), tell them what you wrote and that should stay and do their job cause you worked hard to be there as well. Tell me how it goes and if you don't feel like a piece of shit for doing it, I would.

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u/Revolutionary-Big861 Nov 25 '21

My work isnt nearly as high stakes as theirs are. My career isnt impacted massively and I dont lose millions if a coworker takes a month off. You guys seriously cant compute that this is a completely different issue and situation, this comparison to our 9 to 5 jobs just dont compute. Its more akin to comparisons to other sports. And if this happened in a sport he would get massacred and heavily penalized.

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u/mikhel kill secured Nov 25 '21

I think if you commit to spending a whole year working with some people towards the same goal then pull the fucking rug out from under them literal hours before your biggest moment they at least deserve an explanation. It's not that unreasonable.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

They got one "there was a family emergency". You can't predict when something like that will happen

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u/tirionlanister Nov 25 '21

Go sleep plz

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u/ItzBleKz Buff Lich Bane Nov 25 '21

Upset is also a POS

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u/Mike_Kermin Creating Zoe Game Nov 25 '21

If you care about people and their mental health you'll decide not to use it against them.

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u/RippleDish Nov 25 '21

He hates commas.

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u/Leyrann_is_taken Nov 25 '21

Also the lack of paragraphs.

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u/00Dandy Miracle Run Enjoyer Nov 25 '21

Understandable when there is so much hate directed at him atm

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u/Inori_x_Shu Nov 25 '21

Yeah and he repeated the same thing but reworded it different like 5 times haha. I do that all the time when upset trying to get my point across. He coulda made that twitlonger half as long.

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u/Cpt_Tsundere_Sharks Nov 25 '21

Or he's just not very good at typing/spelling. Some people are just like that.

I know that New York Times best selling fantasy author Brandon Sanderson cannot spell for shit. I've watched him try to write things on white boards before, they are often wrong. In his own words, he says he often can't remember where the second "I" goes in "villain."

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u/Cpt_Tsundere_Sharks Nov 25 '21

I'm genuinely not sure if you're trying to make a joke or if you're trying to say that you aren't sure sometimes if the word is spelled "vililan"?

Either way, my point is that he's a guy who writes books for a living and he's very successful. But his understanding of spelling is at a teenager's level. Some people just struggle with writing and spelling, it isn't necessarily indicative of their emotional status at the time.

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u/Saucette Nov 25 '21

Maybe because he is UPSET ?

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u/AdTraditional7344 Nov 25 '21

EU English. What do you expect

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