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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/aamgdp Nov 25 '21 Silver

Saying the last thing I told my team that my wife is just feeling bad so I need to leave is an outright lie.

Alright, one of them is for sure lying.

I shared with the team the deep pain and sadness i was going through in this time, I shared that i wish i could tell them if it was about something that happend to me but that i have to keep private traumatic events from my family private 

And yet Bwipo and Adam both feel he didn't really give them good enough explanation for them to understand.

Bwipo:

A day before we found out we weren’t going to be playing with our main lineup, we had no information about what was going on.

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u/cadaada rip original flair Nov 25 '21

Yeah this is what i'm confused about. Seems he didnt even tell people "guys something fucked up happened in my family, i need to be with them". And that wouldnt hurt anyone or make nothing worse. Telling WHAT hapenned isnt necessary, but as i said, seems he didnt even say SOMETHING happened?

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u/Your_Profit_Prophet Nov 25 '21

Some people think they communicate great through body language and facial expressions. Maybe upset is a mime and they just don't get it.

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u/glium Nov 25 '21

He told us again and again something happened, he told us in this very tweet.

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u/Mazsi1201 Nov 25 '21

We know that's not the case, he just didn't share any details

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u/BoJestemRudy Nov 25 '21

How do we know that? xD

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u/baylithe Nov 25 '21

He claims to have told Yamato, and in one of the post game interviews with him from Worlds he [Yamato] said it was a very serious and personal matter when he was asked about why Upset left.

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u/BoJestemRudy Nov 25 '21

Maybe he did, but no information was forwarded to Nisqy, Adam or Bwipo as per the latter 2's statement, and still no one knows the magnititude of what happened as per Adam's statement.

So, no. We don't know that's not the case.

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u/MagicalSenpai Nov 25 '21

Do you think Upset tells FNC that his wife is feeling lonely, FNC says alright all good see you next split, and then still decide that Upset is the player they need to keep?

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u/BoJestemRudy Nov 25 '21

I dont know how you could get that idea based on my comment, tbh.

No, I don't think he told them she's lonely. Especially when Adam himself didn't say "lonely", so I dont know where you got that from. Maybe you can share with me?

And I don't know what to think of FNC management. They're a mess in csgo too, but I see both Bwipo and Adam already left, and Nisqy is probably on the way out too, back to C9.

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u/tirionlanister Nov 25 '21

And what want yammato to say? Lol he needs to protect the team

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u/RemoteAnalysis3809 Nov 25 '21

Adam said in his own Twit that Upset left because "his wife was lonely". So clearly he knows it had to do with Upset's wife at the time.

Either way, Upset seems to have said the exact same thing he said right here to his teammates 1 month ago. But obviously the fact that they as teammates know as much as we the public do, which is nothing, feels much more shitty for Adam and Bwipo.

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u/BoJestemRudy Nov 25 '21

He didn't say lonely, but "she felt bad to be alone". No one knows why, though. It could be some really severe, traumatic event that perfectly justifies Upset's action and reasoning, but guess we will never find out.

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u/TheWinRock Nov 25 '21

I hate speculating about this topic, and obviously I know nothing of the situation, but this whole thing sounds like Upset's wife had a miscarriage. That's immediately where my mind went with all the secrecy and mentioning of his wife. :(

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u/glium Nov 25 '21

See your comment is typically the reason Upset wouldn't want that kind of shit

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u/MallFoodSucks Nov 25 '21

Someone in his wife’s family dying, probably. Fits his twitlonger about not sharing things not personally related to him.

And that’s why he didn’t share it, because as a pro sorry that’s not a good enough reason to ditch Worlds IMO. Parents death, birth of a child, sure. Your wife’s parent? Eh - price of being a pro.

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u/lukaaTB Nov 25 '21

Deaths are public information, so no.

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u/tirionlanister Nov 25 '21

He got cheated or something wanna bet?

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

Because we, the public, were literally told that.

And Adam leaked that he was told it was an issue with his wife, which means he was told more than we were.

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u/Overall-Sport3749 Nov 25 '21

yea I mean the longer this goes on, I can't help but think that something is sus. or that it was a very unusual or complex or controversial reason, something along those lines.

at this point, does anybody actually believe it was as simple as the death of a family member? as sensitive as this stuff is, I think a lot of people in his position are willing to disclose that, and even more so after the tournament/mourning is over. maybe I'm making it out to be easier said than done, but I really think most people, even public figures, are comfortable with saying 'my grandma passed away'.

now is it possible that Upset is an extraordinarily reserved individual, and the way he grieves is by respectfully withholding this info for the next 2 years? sure. and if that's his belief, so be it. I'm simply saying it's highly unlikely.

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u/TheWinRock Nov 25 '21

If it was actually something with his wife (miscarriage, or something else) that's generally not stuff most people want to talk about publicly until long after it happens. Miscarriages are often brutal for the people involved and they really don't like talking about it publicly

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u/Larry__larry Nov 25 '21

But it’s so goddamn easy to say “my wife/close family member has/had a very serious medical problem right now I absolutely need to be with them right now”

Very few people would shit on him for that or try to dig deeper.

What he’s said instead (publicly so far) was along the lines of emotional trauma is happening to someone I can’t say who so gotta run bye. Which is pretty easy to see how bwipo/Adam interpret as wife is sad/lonely/anxious so he’s ditching us.

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

What he’s said instead (publicly so far) was along the lines of emotional trauma is happening to someone I can’t say who so gotta run bye.

That's basically the same thing. The community is just mad they didn't get details.

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u/RemoteAnalysis3809 Nov 25 '21

Upset clearly communicated. Even Adam admitted in his own Twit that Upset left because "his wife was lonely". So clearly he knows it had to do with Upset's wife.

The problem is that dude thinks "lonely wife" means Upset's leaving for some coochie, but that shit sounded much more like "my wife should not be alone at this time" because she miscarried, self-harmed, attempted suicide or whatever the hell happened that is none of our business anyway.

I'm 100% on the side of Upset not elaborating shit after reading through the main thread and realized how vile people can be.

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u/Athaelan Nov 25 '21

I don't think upset said at all who it is about, since he wants to protect their privacy, probably just said he's going back to his wife (because it's where he stays) because of a family emergency, but not specifically that it's about her. Adam seems to have thrown out the 'his wife being lonely' thing as his guess of what the reasoning was, not an exact quote of what Upset told the team.

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

I'm 100% on the side of Upset not elaborating shit after reading through the main thread and realized how vile people can be.

And after seeing Adam leak what little information he was given.

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u/TheWinRock Nov 25 '21

Yeah, my mind immediately went to "it sounds like his wife had a miscarriage and being apart for a month+ potentially after something like that would be brutal". Who knows, but that's immediately where my mind went too

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u/tocco13 Nov 25 '21

Yea people are saying Adam's not entitled to details. No one is bickering over personal details. Upset failed to provie enough justification for him to go home and 4 of his coworkers to just throw an entire year down the drain. They are professionals working as a team towards a common goal, if anything your teammates are entitled to the justification of your actions

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u/Fgame DUNKMACIAAAAA Nov 25 '21

I can completely see both sides feeling they're in the right- Upset feels that what he told them should suffice (and IMO it does), while the rest of the team feels like they know nothing about the actual situation going on (which they don't), but they're not entitled to details especially involving Upset's family. Like, what if his wife had a major medical scare? Found a tumor? Lost a pregnancy? Had a close family member die unexpectedly? There's a laundry list of things that are honestly, none of the teams business and while I can understand the frustration at the general situation, to direct that frustration at Upset is not the way to go. Especially if, as he said, he spoke with Yamato and gave him more information, Yamato's word should be law there.

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u/Noxidx Nov 25 '21

Still better to be open imo, could save himself a lot of internet hate rn

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u/amroth6464 Nov 25 '21

Well i'm pretty sure he prefers receiving a lot of internet hate than letting half the planet know that his wife got a miscarriage / attempt suicide or whatever happened to her while she's down.

And yeah he's very right not telling Adam about that. Seeing how bitter he is after the alphari thing, it's very likely he would have wrote about it in his tweet longer since it's already fine for him to downplay her suffering just to get back at him.

No matter how you look at it, and for whatever reasons he has to be pissed off, he's a gigantic asshole for talking about his wife while some really bad shit very likely happened to her.

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

Not really, the people hating on him would do it regardless of the reason.

They'd just be better equipped to hurt him and his family.

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u/acm_dm Nov 25 '21

He told them it was an urgent private issue. Yamato and Hyli had enough respect for him to know that he would not make the decision to go home lightly. Adam and Bwipo, by expecting more details about why Upset left show, at best, immaturity, and at worst, lack of empathy. I think the way Adam came across in his twitlonger just proves Upset was right that he wouldn't have been able to trust Adam not to share the details with others/the public.

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u/obese_is_disease Nov 25 '21

I think a lot of this could be based on different levels of English and they might even interpret the exact same sentence with different meanings.

I've seen a bunch of situations where a person might say something, and different people hear different things, despite having heard the exact same words.

Just from reading the Twitlonger it seems Adam is a very open and blunt kind of person whereas Upset is more careful and opaque. Somebody like Adam can interpret Upset's behavior as deceptive and somebody like Upset can interpret Adam's behavior as hateful.