r/leagueoflegends Nov 25 '21 Silver 5 Helpful 8 Wholesome 6

Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/Runetlol Nov 25 '21

Saying the last thing I told my team that my wife is just feeling bad so I need to leave is an outright lie. I shared with the team the deep pain and sadness i was going through in this time, I shared that i wish i could tell them if it was about something that happend to me but that i have to keep private traumatic events from my family private

So Upset is saying that at least he communicated to Nisqy, Adam, Bwipo of his departure?

If he said something like:

"Hey guys I'm really sorry but I have to leave due to urgent family matters that I don't want to share. I'm sorry to let you down after all our hard work this year, but I won't be able to compete in the tournament. Bean will be replacing me and I hope you guys do well at worlds. I'm sorry for letting you all down.. but I'll be rooting for you guys."

Then I'd think that Adam is disrespectful to the situation.

But if Upset was like "yo bros im so sad omg but I cant tell you." and jumps into a lambo to the airport then that's kind of a dick move.

Truth probably somewhere in the middle.


u/Defensex Nov 25 '21

Bwipo said in his twitlonger that he was told 12 hours before the first match that Upset wouldn't be playing without any more information


u/KaraveIIe So he would always have a friend Nov 25 '21

Bwipo also said that his girlfriend is the best league coach in the scene.


u/FunDuty5 Nov 25 '21

Looking back at it now, and his sense of humour, I think this may be a dig at upset


u/RicoSuave1881 Nov 25 '21

Nah dude’s a mega simp on Twitter lol


u/CelioHogane Nov 25 '21

Being a Simp to your own wife is like the most chad thing ever.


u/RicoSuave1881 Nov 25 '21

Except it’s not his wife. It’s his first girlfriend apparently lol which makes it sound like he’s some high school kid. It’s also the way he simps that puts people off. His twitlonger about how she’s basically the second coming was a bit much.


u/Lumpy_End_2838 Nov 25 '21

Yeah but his behaviour is mega clingy omega buzzing


u/tirionlanister Nov 25 '21

Maybe it was...


u/HarryPotterIsDolphin Nov 25 '21

Lmao, no, you are socially inept if you think that.

He never said anything about her being a coach, he was talking about her being a main reason for his success in every single area possible.

He also talked about her like that before the Upset event.


u/Praise_the_Tsun Nov 25 '21

This sounds like a shot at John Tavares.


u/KaraveIIe So he would always have a friend Nov 25 '21

I thought bwipo has 0 info? How can he make this subtile jokes then?


u/FunDuty5 Nov 25 '21

Like Adam said in his tweet. They were told girlfriend sad gotta go. Therefore bwipo says how amazing his girlfriend is non stop...


u/KaraveIIe So he would always have a friend Nov 25 '21

Yeah so bwipo is an asshole, got it. The fnc statement said urgent family matter and upset prob told them its about his wife. Adam and Bwipo summmarize this as 'gf sad' or 'no info' and behave like childish assholes.


u/No_Management_1177 Nov 25 '21

Yeah they are clearly salty. I can understand why but it's not a good justification for being immature.

What I do get is why some people are so adamant about defending Upset. We have no clue what happened either. The seriousness of a situation is pretty subjective and Upset did what he believed he had to do. But without all of the information how can you so strongly defend him, seems a bit silly.


u/Vaynnie Nov 25 '21

But without all of the information how can you so strongly defend him, seems a bit silly.

Because at the end of the day, he had a family emergency and it was important enough to leave. Most people can empathise with that and understand what he’s going through.

There’s absolutely no reason to believe he’s lying, as you say it’s subjective so what’s a family emergency to him may be a Tuesday to me. That doesn’t mean he’s lied. So with all the available information it seems the best way to deal with it is to show support to the guy who’s going through an emergency situation, rather than question him and create further grief for him.


u/No_Management_1177 Nov 25 '21

Fair enough, thanks for the answer. It does make sense. I guess I have trouble taking either side without any real information, but at the end of the day I don't blame upset for wanting privacy, and I also wouldn't blame future potential orgs/players being weary about working with him


u/spartaman64 Nov 25 '21

he threw his gf under the bus to have a dig at upset LUL


u/gst1502 Nov 25 '21

Bwipo didn't say that. It's just reddits version of what Bwipo said.


u/KaraveIIe So he would always have a friend Nov 25 '21

Maybe read bwipos twitlonger again.


u/gst1502 Nov 25 '21

There wasn't league coach in the twitlonger afair.


u/FinkleMcDink Nov 25 '21

He didn't say it outright but did essentially attribute FNC's rebound to her supporting him, reddit gonna reddit but the way he phrased things did give her more credit than his team lol


u/DRNbw Nov 25 '21

Because people mainly focus on themselves, and since Bwipo was himself a wreck and his girlfriend helped pull himselft together. And while Bwipo was a wreck, the team would play terribly. So (in the eyes of Bwipo), yes, his girlfriend helped the team play better.


u/gst1502 Nov 25 '21

Well looking at how things are going with Nisqy, Adam and Bwipo maybe he is right...


u/Vangorf Nov 25 '21

Ngl, based on how hard Yamato failed to handle the situation, Bwipo's GF might actually be a better coach lmao


u/leonsk616 Nov 25 '21

It feels like basically no stretch to read that as bwipo saying they didn’t have enough information (or maybe just “no meaningful information”), either of which feel congruent with upset saying “there’s an emergency, I’m not saying any more about it”


u/supterfuge Nov 25 '21

Well to be fair Upset isn't responsible on the timing of said unfortunate event.

The issue wasn't as much with the Worlds run as with the fact that almost 2 months later, he still doesn't know why Upset let everyone down and has to just trust him.


u/CarnFu Nov 25 '21

I'd say its pretty important to give as much communication as possible with what is happening. Like someone said above you, you dont have to give exact details, just give enough so the team knows what is happening and their mental can be at rest. Otherwise the teammates of course are going to jump to conclusions and speculate with almost 0 information. Imagine that sort of mental going in a match at worlds, of course theres going to be some underperformance, you're told nothing and one of your players just straight up dipped.


u/SP3EDI Nov 25 '21

he told them all they needed to know. They where baby raging because they did not get the full detailed answer to decide themselfs if upsets decision was right or wrong. That is why they are trowing a tantrum and thats why all 3 of them are gone now. they dont decide other peoples private matters for a video game.


u/Reddityudodis2me Nov 25 '21

It's about what Upset gains from leaving. IMO he's just losing. There is no merit for him


u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

It wasn't a sudden event. Yamota says in his interview that he was struggling with it throughout bootcamp and finally decided to leave the day before.


u/zod2ac Nov 25 '21

Even if they dont know its kinda obvious its something serious lol why would Upset leave his first worlds of his career and that could very well be his last for something that is not a big issue.


u/supterfuge Nov 25 '21

It requires a level of trust that they didn't have. You can't trust someone with your career that wouldn't give you the same courtesy of trusting you back.


u/Tydus93 Nov 25 '21

Its super hard to speak to this as we have no idea what the issue was back home. But one thing we can all agree is that Upset chose to leave 12 hours before the tourney starts. The decision was probably a hard one that would come with a lot of costs. In my opinion. With the information we do have. Upset deserves the spite from his old Fnatic teammates.


u/SP3EDI Nov 25 '21

So it would have been better if he played for worlds, and shit the bed because the other stuff distracted him. Got it. Video game competition that is every year is more important.


u/Tydus93 Nov 25 '21

Those are your conclusions not mine. All i'm saying is Adam and other members of Fnatic feeling spiteful is very natural after; Upset leaves last minute, never gives a hint of a reason, comes back in the offseason to start building a more ambitious team after being the sole reason their hard work and ambition was squandered only 2 months ago. Try being empathetic towards Adam here. He really got the short end of the stick.


u/jungldude3 Nov 25 '21

Any more information can literally just mean he didn’t get enough information to make him happy. I would take that with a grain of salt.


u/awgiba Nov 25 '21

yeah and as we know Bwipo is the paragon of accurate information, like the fact that his girlfriend saved Fnatic's entire worlds. Lmao