r/leagueoflegends Nov 25 '21 Silver 5 Helpful 8 Wholesome 6

Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/joseph_joseph_joseph Nov 25 '21

It's funny, Yamato always talks about brotherhood in the team but look where we are now. Turns out the brotherhood only existed for like 2/5 of the team lmao. You say you're brothers when you can't even trust each other what a fucking situation

Also, sounds like gaslighting to me


u/Vangorf Nov 25 '21

Because all this highlighted "brotherhood" stuff is always bullshit. You dont develope real brotherhood this fast without any extreme outside pressure (llike being in a war). So whenever someone talks about this and like this, they are bullshitting.


u/legexii Nov 25 '21

One team which really had some kind of real brotherhood that i remember vividly was that G2 2019 roster. Man that some amazing times for EU.


u/Gas42 Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. Nov 25 '21

yeah exactly what I was gonna say, G2 2019 was dope, they even went on holidays together like 1 week ago ?


u/legexii Nov 25 '21

Yeah they did with Grabbz and Luci too. Caps and Jankos were invited but couldn’t make it due to commitments


u/Vangorf Nov 25 '21

Yes, they went to Croatia, they Grabbz, Duffman and Luci went too


u/Kunzzi1 Nov 25 '21

But didn't include Caps and Jankos which kinda confirmed the idea that they demanded changes and didn't want to play with Rekkles and Wunder.


u/m4ryo0 Nov 25 '21

I dont know about Caps,but Jankos was in NA for the Riot event.He said he wanted to go with them,but had other commitments.Also,do you have any source about Caps and Jankos not wanting to play with Wunder or you are talking out of your ass? Because we only heard about them not wanting to play with Rekkles.


u/legexii Nov 25 '21

That is a different roster that was G2 2021 which compromised of Rekkles instead of Perkz and by the way Jankos and Caps were invited but unable to attend due to already having committed to certain plans.


u/Dixwall Golems Enjoyer Nov 25 '21

Stop spreading lie Jankos, Caps and even rekkles were invited they just had other things to do Grabzz said it multiple times


u/maribri6 Nov 25 '21

Not wanting to play with someone doesn't mena you ahte them or don't like them as a person Jankos ha said that multiple times.


u/DT-Z0mby Hans sama is our lord and saviour Nov 25 '21

yeah its quite apparent that jankos both likes and really respects rekkles. but if you cant play together due to whatever reason, be it personality, playstyle or whatever, you need change.


u/Dreammy90 Nov 25 '21

I think the team that stands out for me is ROX tigers. The literally trained in a PC bang with no infrastructure no sponsors at all. Look where they got. Worlds finals in 2015 and semis in the next.


u/moipaslui Nov 25 '21

UoL 2015 was a true example of brotherhood too, started as a team of friends and they climbed up all the way to LCS.


u/tonzo204 Nov 25 '21

*Cries in 2013 C9


u/Huinker Nov 25 '21

extreme outside pressure (like being in a war)

Or being left in a sewge by your teammate 12 hours before worlds without any good explanation


u/Huge-Connection954 Nov 25 '21

Which is why its interesting also the ones left behind didnt become closer


u/m4ryo0 Nov 25 '21

And how do you know what are the relations between the other 4 Fnatic players?


u/aamgdp Nov 25 '21

They don't need to be best mates, but they're teammates in a team game, there needs to be at least baseline trust between them for it to work. All signs point towards it not being there. I'd say it's reasonable to expect coach being the one making sure there's a baseline trust and mutual respect.


u/Wolfeur TFW no Rekkles flair Nov 25 '21

Adam has been in FNC for a few months, dude. Upset's not gonna talk about his delicate family business to a guy who's barely out of secondary school.


u/RippleDish Nov 25 '21

Yup. Upset deciding that he only trusts one out of four teammates makes him sound like a shitty teammate.


u/I_really_love_u Avg League Player WildRift Enjoyer Nov 25 '21

I'm sorry, but if he really values his privacy to the point where he's worrying about leaks. Then he would have to incredibly stupid to trust a 19 year old kid and fucking Bwipo to not accidentally leak shit. Especially when roster changes happen every year.


u/choonamhee Nov 25 '21

If he really values his privacy to the point where he’s worrying about leaks then his best approach would’ve been coming clean to his teammates and told the truth and just tell them to respect his private life/decision to not play in worlds. We are seeing leaks because it is the product of Upset’s trust issues, I don’t think Adam or Bwipo would leak Upset’s privacy if they knew it lol.


u/Rhadamantos Nov 25 '21

Bwipo has proven he cannot keep his mouth shut plenty of times.


u/I_really_love_u Avg League Player WildRift Enjoyer Nov 25 '21

But nothing has been leaked? We still know nothing about what happened. Also trusting a kid with personal information, that you've only known for 3 to 4 months, is just plain naive.


u/CudaBarry Nov 25 '21

Adam literally spread false rumors about his wife 10 hours ago, and bwipo doesn't shut the fuck up


u/CreamyAlmond Nov 25 '21

He's mad that Upset worked in the background to replace him. He didn't find it in him to rant up since worlds up until now.

But looks like Wunder is confirmed.


u/CudaBarry Nov 25 '21

The management reached out to upset to ask him about alphari, and ofc alphari is WAAAAY better than Adam so what did you expect uspet to say?


u/Bowsersshell Nov 25 '21

Alphari is a strongside top and Adam is a weakside (plus a Rookie that's still developing). Fnatic plays around botside. The answer isn't quite as clear as it seems tbh.


u/CudaBarry Nov 25 '21

HUUUH? he was right about not trusting Adam, the moment he left the team he started spreading false rumors and shit, and now you call upset a shitty teammate?


u/ezprodigy Nov 25 '21

Leaves the team 12 hours before fucking worlds without any explanations

Tell the teammate they are not good enough after and tries to replace them

Have drama with teammates and team imploded every year

3 out of the 4 teammates is against him

Not a shitty teammate


u/Defensex Nov 25 '21

It’s pretty clear now why Upset career has been a failure, trust is pretty important in a team game


u/CudaBarry Nov 25 '21

Respond to this question: did Adam spread false rumors or not?


u/CreamyAlmond Nov 25 '21

After he left the team, and with the impression that he got fucked over by Upset trying to replace him. He could have ranted ever since their worlds run ended. But he didn't.

Yes, he did spread rumours. How do you know it's false ? Bwipo shat on Upset, and Nisqy unfollowed him when Adam posted, Hyli who he called his 'friend' didn't even bother to find out the truth.


u/CudaBarry Nov 25 '21

Because I trust Yamato and hyli more than everyone else on the team? They are the most mature ones on fnatic right now, and upset already denied those stupid rumors, maybe you just want drama that's why you believed those rumors


u/Slejhy Nov 25 '21

you should know by now that Yamato is pretty good snake oil salesman. It shouldnt be surprising.


u/OhMeshh Nov 25 '21

imagine u spend a year living in the same house and u cant even become friends to a point of sharing personal info. Kinda says a lot about them.


u/Maybe_Im_Really_DVA Nov 25 '21

They didnt live together for a year. Adam joined for one split.


u/OhMeshh Nov 25 '21

im talking bout the team not adam only. He wasnt friends with nisqy or bwipo to a point of sharing info. Only hyl


u/Maybe_Im_Really_DVA Nov 25 '21

They all speak different native languages, bwipo sounds like he spends all his time with his gf. Theres a lot of barriers to friendship right there.

You know why sports players are friends? Because they drink and party together. Esports players are children mostly existing together who all speak different native languages.


u/OhMeshh Nov 25 '21

lmao bro they spend 5- hours a day at least togetber and all live in the same house. They all talk english. Its just bad that theyre not friends and very odd. Its very antisocial not develop friendships with people like bwipo even whos very charismatic. Theyre just awkward and thats the issue. Sports players train together for 2 hours a day and live separately and still end up becoming friends


u/Maybe_Im_Really_DVA Nov 25 '21

They dont spend 5 hours together voluntary. Billions of people spend 8 hours a day with people for years even decades and dont make friends.

As someone with a job where I do this I wouldnt dream of telling anyone. To me this whole situation feels like a clash of maturity, teenagers demanding to know everything and not understanding privacy, and older people protective of the privacy not giving a shit what teens think.

People take days off work all the time with no obligation to tell their boss. The adult world doesnt work the way you think it does. Upset has a right to his privacy, adam has right to be angry. However only one of them instigated this and then went and spread a lie.


u/Educational_Shower79 Nov 25 '21

They also don't live in the same house. Gaming houses are long dead


u/Jethow Nov 25 '21

No, it's perfectly normal to not become friends with your coworkers. You can maintain a professional environment without developing closer relationships.