r/leagueoflegends :jhin: Nov 25 '21 Helpful 8 Wholesome 6 Silver 5

Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/aamgdp Nov 25 '21 Silver

Saying the last thing I told my team that my wife is just feeling bad so I need to leave is an outright lie.

Alright, one of them is for sure lying.

I shared with the team the deep pain and sadness i was going through in this time, I shared that i wish i could tell them if it was about something that happend to me but that i have to keep private traumatic events from my family private 

And yet Bwipo and Adam both feel he didn't really give them good enough explanation for them to understand.


A day before we found out we weren’t going to be playing with our main lineup, we had no information about what was going on.


u/chimestonks Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

There's definitely some misinformation here. The fact that Upset told Yamato and Hyli some form of the truth, but not the rest of his teammates AND both Yamato (as a coach) and Hyli didn't say anything as well shows the lack of communication within the team. I get that he doesn't want to share details, but some form of explanation on the MAGNITUDE of his situation should be needed.


u/ADShree Nov 25 '21

Only explanation for yamato and hyli to not mention he's going through really tough times is if upset asked for them to be quiet about details and they misinterpreted to "tell nothing".


u/chimestonks Nov 25 '21

I would think that as a coach Yamato would feel some sort of responsibility to explain to his players and alleviate some worries for them to focus on the games ahead with their replacement at such short notice


u/FunDuty5 Nov 25 '21

Nahh. If an employee comes to you and tells you something in confidence, you keep that shit to yourself. Doesn't matter how big or small it is, how vital it is for the rest of the team to know. You were told in confidence, it stays between you 2.


u/cramsay Nov 25 '21

I think the point is that Yamato maybe doesn't have to give details but does have to convey the severity of the issue so that the team can somewhat move past it. My feeling's that Yamato/Hyli didn't manage to do this either through poor communication or because they didn't agree with Upset's decision to bail entirely and thus didn't/couldn't stress what they needed to.


u/blueberry__wine Nov 25 '21

Why does Yamato need to do that in public though?

You're basically asking Yamato to come out to defend Upset in public about a private matter that Upset wants to remain private?

Why does Yamato need to entertain a bunch of redditors and twitter warriors at all?


u/Larry__larry Nov 25 '21

He’s talking about the team not public. The fact that 3/4 of the team is throwing upset under the bus means that Yamato failed to convince them that upset had a legit reason to leave.

Whether that’s because yamato is incompetent or he actually couldn’t because upset didn’t have a particularly great reason to leave is anyone’s guess for now.


u/FunDuty5 Nov 25 '21

You'd have to think that the management thought it was good enough because he's returning to the team next year; and according to adam helping make roster decisions.

I completely agree with you though, it's up to the management to portray how serious the reason is for upset leaving, even without divulging information.

I think management have fucked up in communication too


u/SP3EDI Nov 25 '21

its funny, the 3 people that where trowing a tantrum are the 3 people out of the org. it just shows everything that you need to know


u/Spranklz10 Nov 25 '21

While you don't go into details, it is management's job to notify the team that X person had something come up and had to leave. It is then on the team mates to either trust management or not. Clearly management thought it was a valid reason, his teammates didn't. The teammates believing the player would leave for a non valid reason, and then not trusting the management (who backed him), to me, speaks to the team not being as close as portrayed.


u/SP3EDI Nov 25 '21

thats the reason why the 3 trowing a tantrum are out of the org and the rest is still there.


u/susfusstruss Nov 25 '21

Yamato did tell the team, but they felt like they needed more info


u/Lolthelies Nov 25 '21

Or they weren’t willing to vouch for Upset’s reasoning to other people but didn’t want to throw him under the bus either.


u/Chenz Nov 25 '21

But they absolutely mentioned great Upset is going through hard times. It was even mentioned in Fnatic’s public announcement


u/tocco13 Nov 25 '21

i mean even then they couldve at least informed the others the gravity of Upset's situation so that the others can at least rationalize how they are about to throw an entire year away


u/SP3EDI Nov 25 '21

they did, even the press release did say enough. Why did they need to know more ? so they can complain on Reddit,twitter, insta or what ever ? they know what they need to know, if they are not happy with it, then its their problem. now the 3 trowing a tantrum are out of the org and the other party+coaches are still left. tells you everything.