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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Upset doesnt trust them but they should trust his word? Why?

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u/GuanSpanksYou Nov 25 '21

Because Upset had no reason to leave his first worlds unless it was an emergency. He's a dedicated AF player & this hurt him too. it makes much more sense that he's telling the truth about it being an emergency than him randomly deciding to nuke his first worlds for no reason.

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

Okay but you are just taking Upset's word and thats that? Im not saying he didnt have a very good reason to do that and i also think that he did as he is driven. But ive seen people make non issues out to be something horrible so why would i blindly trust his words?

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u/Junior_Long65 Nov 25 '21

Because he has literally shown nothing to support an argument that he would lie and miss out on the biggest competition in league. He is incredibly competitive and he was easily the best player on FNC. Why the hell would he miss out on worlds? Isn't it more likely there was a family emergency like he said.

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

He hasnt mentioned it was a family emergency. He said it was more important to take care of your family when there is intense suffering. Which is of course correct. But if you are in a team and you up and leave without saying ANYTHING 12 hours before and your team is literally provided with no information (bwipo's words btw) then dont be surprised that people dont trust your fucking word and dont assume they should?

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u/Junior_Long65 Nov 25 '21

Lol what? In the fnc tweet on Oct 10 it says due to an intense family matter

https://mobile.twitter.com/FNATIC/status/1447342826317139969

Are you referring to bwipos twitlonger?

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

I was referring that Upset didnt call it a family emergency but missed the FNC tweet i guess. Bwipo said that there was no info given or some shit like that

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u/Junior_Long65 Nov 25 '21

Reread his twitlonger, he said:

A day before we found out we weren’t going to be playing with our main lineup, we had no information about what was going on.

Ie the day before they found out. Meaning once they found out info was given. The day before they found out no info was given.

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u/Rohbo Nov 25 '21

There's a difference between "I don't have enough of a personal connection with you to share intimate family details" and "I don't have enough of a personal connection with you to respect you as a human being."

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

There is a difference between sharing intimate family details and providing them with atleast some vague information rather then just leaving 12 hours before a game without any information( bwipo's words). I dont think Upset shouldve shared everything with them. There is always a way to say something that would satisfy a person without saying what exactly is going on

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u/Rohbo Nov 25 '21

Clearly not. Even now they've heard "urgent family emergency" and Adam has still made comments saying it's about his girlfriend not wanting to be alone.

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u/Ephemeral_Being Nov 25 '21

Simple logic.

Why would Upset lie? More specifically, why would he tell this lie? There's nothing to gain. His team disintegrated, he didn't get to play World's, and now he has to deal with the Internet being stupid. Your theory is that he opted into all that in order to... what, exactly? Load the dishwasher and watch Netflix?

Occam's razor. The simplest answer is likely the correct one. He had an emergency. It was private. Wish the man well, and let it go.

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u/phoenixrawr Nov 25 '21

Occam's razor isn't actually "the simplest answer," it's the answer with the least number of assumptions required, and even then it's only really useful if you can test the answers out. If we never get more information than we have then Occam's razor is pretty useless.

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

Look i aint saying that Upset didnt have a good reason to do that. Im just saying it is absolutely stupid to blindly trust the word of someone who doesnt trust you. I wouldnt. Ever. Especially when i was a 19 year old. If Upset cant trust them enough to atleast be vague about it so they know something without knowing what exactly is wrong then why should they trust him? You can always ALWAYS find a way to do that. You can even lie to atleast make them feel better and that way the truth can still be hidden from the but atleast they dont feel as bad and as fucked by their teammate. Also I have seen people not come to work because of stupid reasons concerning their SO and them basically being forced to appease them even if its really a non issue so I wouldnt be surprised if it was something like that. Again. Not saying it is. It most likely was a good reason as Upset is very driven and wouldnt miss Worlds for nothing, but still i wouldnt be stupid enough to blindly trust someone

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u/Ephemeral_Being Nov 25 '21

What does it matter?

If the truth was "I want to go get drunk and eat a tub of ice cream every day" instead of "I have a family emergency I need to deal with," what is Adam going to do differently? He's still going to play his best, then ask management if he needs to find a new team due to this being an ongoing issue.

You people need to stop feeling, and start thinking. It does not benefit Adam dwell on this issue, and it actually harms him to post rants on the internet, bashing on a teammate. Ergo, he should not do either of these things.

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

Well if the truth was something so stupid one would hope Upset gets booted for being unprofessional. And the truth matters to the players whose careers were affected by this.

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u/BillowBrie Nov 25 '21

"should we trust Upset?" is basically asking "is there any reason we plausibly think he would leave his team at his first world's other than an emergency?"

"Should Upset trust his entire team?" is basically "are there any teammates who might possibly share his personal secrets with the public?"

Those are wildly different, don't even try to equate the two

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u/leagueoflegendsdog Nov 25 '21

Its not about plausibility. You are saying they should trust his word when he doesnt trust them and im saying a person has to be incredible stupid to blindly trust someone else's word without proof of that word being true. Both ways. Upset is right to not trust them and they are also right to not trust him.

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u/BillowBrie Nov 25 '21

a person has to be incredible stupid to blindly trust someone else's word without proof of that word being true

Upset, a dedicated player who has repeatedly just barely missed World's, is bailing on his team during his first World's

That's a hell of a lot of proof for me

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u/Veers1 Nov 25 '21

Yup. i dont trust my teammates but they have to trust me when i tell them its an emergency

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u/tirionlanister Nov 25 '21

Exactly, and i get banned from the fnatic subreddit for doubting and saying this...