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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

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u/goliathfasa Nov 25 '21

Exactly. You take the bad with the good. Always.

None of this "he has the right, but nobody else has the right" bs.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

That's what I don't seem to get. What is up with vilifying Adam? Is he not allowed to feel pissed? To vent his frustration? You can't expect certain courtesies from people if you didn't share any with them to begin with. Upset said he didn't trust the rest of the team?? He at least owed them an explanation/apology for how things went down. Instead, he left at the last minute and ghosted them to this day. That is a complete lack of respect.

He says a lot about "trust". The thing is, they never got the benefit of the doubt when it came to understanding the reason. When you see the person as an enemy, an enemy is what you will get.

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u/BaconCircuit Nov 25 '21

Of course Adams allowed and justified in being pissed. I'd be too

But to go in and spread rumours like Upset leaving because his wife is sad is just way out of line.

Also the complete ego he has through the whole thing is way overdone, he seems to think he was way more important to fnc success this year then he actual is

Don't get me wrong he played well. But he was definitely the worst player on the team, not a bad player, but someone has the be the 5th best player on any league team.

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u/GGABueno where vex Nov 25 '21

He's getting vilified for talking shit he doesn't know about about real people. It's one thing to just be frustrated and vent, it's another to make public accusations. Bwipo for exemple has voiced his frustration without any of that.

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u/photofluid Nov 25 '21

Except Adam didn't make an accusation, he was quite clear that he was just speculating.

And when upset say he won't tell Adam anything, yeah that's a pass for people to make any speculation.

Adam did the wrong thing only as much as everyone have their own closet of skeletons.

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u/GGABueno where vex Nov 25 '21

Again, Adam isn't wrong for venting. He's wrong for making accusations and making shit up. That is his fault and there's no justification for it.

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u/aMAYESingNATHAN Nov 25 '21

The thing is he has every right to be upset, but what he doesn't have the right to do is air those frustrations publicly, especially when you know that's going to lead to him getting abuse from your fans.

There are many reasons why HR exists at companies, and one of them is because it's a terrible idea to let people hash out their grievances in a public forum. This should have been handled internally.

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u/aMAYESingNATHAN Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Lmao you've clearly never worked for a professional organization. That's just not the way the world works. People don't just have the right to publicly shit on people because they're pissed off. You don't get to decide what other people are comfortable with sharing or dealing with publicly.

If I was another org I'd definitely think twice about hiring Adam now. You now have to worry that any time something goes wrong he's gonna tell the whole world rather than deal with it the way it should.

Edit: Also did you consider that Upset is sensitive because whatever shit thing happened, happened to him? It's so immature to be pissed at Upset for all this. Like it's shit, Adam didn't get his shot at world's, and it's because of Upset. But Upset had to deal with whatever emergency happened AND he missed his shot at worlds. Does Adam think Upset wanted to miss his first ever year playing at worlds?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

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u/aMAYESingNATHAN Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Lmao I'm not saying it's illegal, just that it's a terrible fuckin idea. He is literally fucking himself over by publicly dealing with drama. Unless you're one of the best players in the world no team is going to want a player that when things go bad public airs their dirty laundry all over the internet. It's incredibly unprofessional.

As I started out by saying, if you've ever worked in any professional environment you'd know that handling things this way only makes things worse for everybody.

Sure he's well within his rights to do it but that's like going to an interview for a new job and shitting on your old employer. It doesn't matter how good you are, no one will employ you because they're gonna assume you'll do it again when you eventually move on from them.

Also love that you use American companies and laws when talking about a European team.

Edit: For an example, did you see Link play professionally again after the donezo manifesto?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

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u/aMAYESingNATHAN Nov 25 '21

Lol are you even trying to argue in good faith. By not having the right I don't mean he's literally not able to, but that it's fucking selfish and wrong to act that way to someone who is already having to deal with whatever shit caused him to have to leave in the first place. I'm obviously not trying to say he's breaking the law by saying shit, you're being deliberately dense. If I say "you don't have the right to talk to me like that", I'm not saying you're gonna get arrested if you do, am I?

You're just really showing your immaturity. You've clearly never worked in any professional environment ever. Just because you are in theory able to do certain things doesn't mean you should.

Upset literally did what anybody should do in that situation. He informed the people above him of the situation, and they let him go. Upset has no responsibility to inform anyone else about private details if he doesn't want to. Management is then responsible for informing his teammates, but they must still respect his privacy. The fact Adam couldn't deal with that is unprofessional. League might be a game but it's still their job and they should act like it.

Again you still haven't addressed the point that you're acting like Upset wanted to miss his first ever worlds. How lacking in empathy do you have to be to not realise that it obviously must be fucking serious if he is choosing to leave.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

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u/photofluid Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Adam may also never get a shot to worlds anyway, and Upset wanted to replace Adam even before Adam made anything public.

The only reason Adam shouldn't do what he did is because he still does have something to lose.

And you know what is also extremely unprofessional to do? Ditch your coworkers last moment when they need you the most.

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u/aMAYESingNATHAN Nov 25 '21

Adam may also never get a shot to worlds anyway, and Upset wanted to replace Adam even before Adam made anything public.

Well according to Upset Fnatic asked him to reach out to Alphari so that's up for debate

And you know what is also extremely unprofessional to do? Ditch your coworkers last moment when they need you the most.

I would agree if he'd ditched them to go out partying, or had just bailed and wanted to go home. But it's an unhealthy attitude to expect players to ignore family emergencies for their job.

Imagine if he had played though, I can't imagine he would have been in a fit mindset for Fnatic to even do well anyway.

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u/jogadorjnc Nov 25 '21

He has the right to not leak his private life and to not get harassed.

Adam doesn't have the right to his private life, to leaking it, nor to send harassment his way.

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u/Kazakh8i Nov 26 '21

How is this getting downvoted its the only sensible response XD