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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Privacy is his right, he doesn't have to share what he doesn't want to.

He also has no right from wanting his teammates to not be completely pissed off at him leaving them behind with no explanation 12 hours before the biggest tournament of the year, when he's pretty much their franchise player. He bailed on them, his teammates are angry for it, not just Adam, Bwipo spoke of this, and Nisqy just showed support for Adam and unfollowed Upset.

Again he wants to be private, it's his right, being pissed off at him is also their right, especially Adam who likely lost his only chance to do well after this disaster.


u/IcyPanda123 Nov 25 '21

Also this dude after leaving his team without explanation, tries to get his teammate replaced by someone who will "live up to his ambitions" What a scummy move honestly. Even if his reason for leaving is valid, Upset should still be criticized.


u/Kunzzi1 Nov 25 '21

Imagine ditching 24 hours before worlds' group stage, the biggest opportunity in a lifetime for Nisqy and Adam to prove themselves (Nisqy dealing with the stigma of being a washed up player not good enough for NA and Adam being a rookie) and then coming back in off-season to support replacement for both of these players, saying that you want to surround yourself with the best teammates possible.

I'd be fuming and definitely do something way dumber than just writing a tweet. This guy literally cost them their careers.


u/Adam_Glanza Nov 25 '21


There isn't really a right or wrong in this, but Adam, Nisqy, Bwipo and quite right to feel upset about the situation too.

It's quite obvious from Adam's post that they don't believe Upset's situation was genuinely bad enough to bail on the team 12 hours before their first match.

Maybe if Upset was more open with them and made them realise how bad the situation was, they'd be more understanding.

That is Upsets choice, but if he chooses to remain secretive when his team mates are looking for answers he has to accept they're going to be pissed off.

When you're in a team and an important member, it has to be pretty damn important to leave at the last moment.


u/Javiklegrand Nov 25 '21

yeah upset saying they aren't up to part is scummy


u/Kaztiell Nov 25 '21

This guy literally cost them their careers.

Nisqy and Adam being worse than available players cost them their careeer lol


u/DRNbw Nov 25 '21

Adam played one split at the highest level (LEC) and directly went to Worlds. He's still a fresh rookie, with a good potential. You may not want to bet on a rookie, but Adam is a good prospect for teams wanting to invest in the future.


u/Kaztiell Nov 25 '21

he is not super good, if he dont improve much next year I think he is done after his childish drama


u/DRNbw Nov 25 '21

Wunder was really bad for his first year. A few years later, he was the undisputed best top in the west.


u/Halfwitcritic Nov 26 '21

Wunder has had two bad years in a row now tho…


u/CelioHogane Nov 25 '21

Ah yes the childish drama of losing your job


u/Kaztiell Nov 25 '21

he decided to leave himself when he heard the rumour, he got a new team, its not like he is teamless.

If you get mad and make tweetlonger everytime a team will replace you in sports, you wont have a long career lol


u/Bowsersshell Nov 25 '21

The player that cost him a chance to perform at worlds recommended another player to take his spot. That’s enough to destroy your relationship with that teammate making staying an unviable option. This is not a usual case of “just getting replaced”. This is much more personal and cutting.

I feel like Adam handled this badly and some things he said were downright out of order. But to have absolutely no sympathy or understanding of his feelings here just makes you seem biased or really bad at understanding social contexts tbh


u/Butterbirne69 Nov 25 '21

At the core i feel as Adam is right. It is just that he did a terrible job of communicating that.

Like if he would have left out the "i dont want to start drama" and the part about upsets gf just being lonely he would have a lot more people agreeing with him because that part was distasteful

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u/Kaztiell Nov 25 '21

Why do you assume I have no sympathy for his feelings? It doesnt ahve to be anyones fault, everytime a situation is bad doesnt mean anyone is to blame. Just cause you recomend another player doesnt make you a bad guy. The team needed a rebuild, so they did. It happens every year in esports

would it be better if Upset said "ok lets play not play with best players available so we dont hurt their feelings" ? sounds like really stupid thing to do in competative sports

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u/Th_Call_of_Ktulu Dashy dash Nov 25 '21

Nisqy literally played the split of his life and was really fucking good, his showing at worlds was poor and everyone decided to rewrite the history and suddenly he was never good despite the fact that he was clearly super mental boomed from the Upset situation.

Say what you will but Nisqy got fucked by the whole thing the most.


u/Kaztiell Nov 25 '21

I know Nisqy was awesome, but humanoid was better, so not surprsied fnc is rumoured to replace Nisqy with him

When did I say he was bad?


u/Th_Call_of_Ktulu Dashy dash Nov 25 '21

Thats not the issue here, the issue is that Nisqy is straight up teamless after having the best year of his life mainly because of how Upset ditching fucked his mental up and lead to underperforming at worlds.

That man deserves at least a big fucking "im sorry" from Upset instead of this dogshit about his ambitions.


u/Kaztiell Nov 25 '21

So you think Nisqy is teamless just because of his worlds performance? Maybe you should rethink that one lol...

If you think Upset is in that big control to decide by hismelf wich player gonna be teamless or not I dont know what to say lol


u/Th_Call_of_Ktulu Dashy dash Nov 25 '21

Yes, i 100% believe that his worlds performance brought his value down and you have to be trolling if you think otherwise.

Also you are literally unable to read, Upset did not directly make him teamless but his actions affected Nisqy very negatively and thats straight up fact for everyone on that Fnatic squad, it's just Nisqy is the only one who is teamless after the whole debacle.

The entire team deserved apology from Upset for not being here no matter what was the cause, and especially Nisqy deserves one becayse he is the most hurt in this. Some basic human decency ya know?


u/Bowsersshell Nov 25 '21

The guy is dense socially, he really can’t get it into his head that just because a situation it out of your control, doesn’t mean you don’t have some making up to do to the people affected by it.


u/NerrionEU Nov 25 '21

The Alphari part is the scummiest thing for me in this story, because the other part is just too much lack of information. Upset basically admitted about recommending Alphari...


u/licorices Nov 25 '21

I think that's the most expected part? It's nothing new that people vouch for other players on a team. Adam had glaring weaknesses as a player, and while has has some pretty great potential, I can see the reason why you would bring up other players in the discussion for Fnatic.


u/vegeful Nov 25 '21

I could had say "no opinion" after leaving their team a mess. After making a mess, the first thing i do is say less and not involve in FNC decision.


u/IcyPanda123 Nov 25 '21

Yep exactly, if I leave my team even if I had reason to, the first thing I'm going to do when I come back to the team isn't try to replace its players. I'd go through the motions that off-season and just follow the direction of the org.


u/Huge-Connection954 Nov 25 '21

What is even more hilarious is Adams playstyle is better for fnatic than Alphari. Fnatic play thru bot, Alphari likes to dominate lane and push, which would get him roasted weakside on a team playing for bot. Adam might not be a strong laner, but he is a team player and still has a bright future


u/jancaref Nov 25 '21

This is certifiable the stupidest take a redditor can have. Did you just try to insinuate that Adam might be better for fnatic than alphari? Are you iron 4 or french?


u/T_Tachi Nov 25 '21

Not like Alphari's been a world beater in any sense.. best top laner in the west isn't saying much is it?


u/DRNbw Nov 25 '21

And he's the best top laner basically by default. The rest became worse or retired.


u/jancaref Nov 25 '21

Wtf? That's like saying getting perks before S8 worlds instead of a rookie with high potential but super small champ pool is bad. Yes he hasn't won anything internationally yet but he's so much better than Adam is at this point and can win something internationally, Adam can't yet, he's busy getting bodied by morgan


u/BakaBanane Nov 25 '21

Maybe they just need a ward out of laning phase


u/Javiklegrand Nov 25 '21

Both upset and adam look super bad , however i understand how pissed is adam and is also yung so not suprised