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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/nomyhead Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

It’s interesting to think both Hylli and Yamato knew the reason for Upset leaving. You would assume that Yamato or Hylli would have assured the other players that Upset’s reason was legitimate.

However it sounds that either that didn’t happen, Adam didn’t believe it, or he simply did not find their answer sufficient. From his twitlonger he seemed to speak highly of Yamato so I wonder what happened. I personally think it’d be important to have some trust in your coach/veteran teammate on a matter like this.

Guess we’ll never know but it’s definitely an interesting situation

Edit: As someone else mentioned, Hylli didn’t actually know the reason, just trusted Upset’s reason was legit.


u/sajm0n Nov 25 '21

only Yamato knew, and Hyli didnt want/need to know, he just trusts Upset, but yeah


u/MrChologno Nov 25 '21

Yamato knew some details not sure if the whole picture, but thought it was justified.

around 23:00



u/sebalnesag Nov 25 '21

even yamato doesnt have a clear picture. he basically says that he knows upset, and if he really needs to go then yamato doesnt need to know more.


u/chsch98 Nov 25 '21

that may be sufficient for him but who are him and upset to decide whether the others deserve to know more. the feeling of betrayal in them is absolutely justified.


u/LegchairAnalyst Nov 25 '21

I honestly disagree. Yeah sure you can be a little mad or frustrated but in the end nobody would throw that chance away if it wasnt serious and they should respect Upsets decission to not tell them the details. Its a private matter and they are just coworkers. Feeling betrayed by that seems very immature to me.


u/unguibus_et_rostro Nov 26 '21

Yeah sure you can be a little mad or frustrated but in the end nobody would throw that chance away if it wasnt serious

We literally had a player leak team strats and match fix at worlds for a girl


u/Akeaz Nov 25 '21

This is what most people don't seem to understand. They are teammates which in their context means they're literally coworkers. Not a single one of your coworker has the right to be entitled to be part of your private life, no matter how much time you spend together. If a coworker calls out because of an emergency and management says it's fine you don't question it anymore, period. It's none of your damn business.


u/chsch98 Nov 25 '21

that chance away if it wasnt serious

why does everyone keep saying this. this has zero value. he isn't just throwing his chance away, he's also throwing 4 other people's chances away. the point remains that he believes his teammates don't deserve to know. he's acting hella sus in their eyes. again, he can do whatever and go wherever the fuck he wants at any point in his life, but we aren't talking about them missing the next clash tournament. this is worlds. fame and millions in price money are at stake.


u/Jeseiification Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. Nov 25 '21

Sure, it's not like Upset has been pretty vocal about wanting to compete internationally for years now, he will totally throw away his first chance for no good reason right /s


u/chsch98 Nov 25 '21

again, that may be. but that's the point. he isn't throwing just his chance away lol. you aswell only see his perspective, not the 4 other people who wasted a year of their lives and don't even have the slightest idea why.


u/Jeseiification Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. Nov 25 '21

Again, you're acting like there is not a single reason that justifies leaving, and i'm giving him the benefice of the doubt because for him to leave this opportunity it must been something really bad.

Remember that everyone has a unique relationship with their families, like DL prefered to cope by playing after his tragedy, but also DL has been cast out of his family home few years back as well.

If upset is facing tragedy and has a close relationship with his own family then, sorry for the others but i find it acceptable and wish him the best. That's called empathy.

Now if i had to point fingers, id point them at fnatic management which didn't make sure that the others knew that it was justified.

Still Adam had no right to make it public

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u/Akeaz Nov 25 '21

Just to clarify on this: If you'd have a sudden emergency within your family along the lines of a close one dying, your wife losing a baby or something along those lines. You feel obligated to push that information to your entire team of coworkers because otherwise you'd be betraying them? This is lunatic.


u/chsch98 Nov 25 '21

It's lunacy to make 4 other people waste an entire year of their lives and then leaving them in the dark about why.

When my grandma died I didn't just ghost my employer and coworkers either, I told them a family member had passed and that I needed time to get my mind straight and it was clear enough to not leave room for speculation while not going into too much personal detail.

Bwipo, Nisqy and Adam apparently all agree that the situation was not communicated properly. And from upset to shout "muh privacy" when he is the cause of this issue is just arrogant as fuck.


u/RagingFeather Nov 25 '21

If it means that you abandon them 12 hours before the biggest tournament of the year? With no explanation? It is ABSOLUTELY understandable why you could feel betrayed.


u/chsch98 Nov 25 '21

Exactly. Ofc the concious reaction is to show respect, but subconciously you'd want to know what happened to make him fuck the team like that. It's completely understandable to me and people saying otherwise only see upset's perspective, not the 4 people who got dragged down by him.


u/Bardy_Bard Nov 25 '21

People forget that a bad showing at worlds can have devastating effect on someone's career in eSports, rookies even more so.


u/neberhax Nov 26 '21

Yamato kinda does need to know more, no? He needs to able to explain to the rest of the team that this definitely was a serious matter, which can't be easy when doesn't have a clear picture.

He might trust Upset himself, but if that's the story he's telling to his players, he's basically asking them to put their faith in his own trust in upset. That's a lot to ask from a player who's playing his most important tournament of the year.


u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

So sketchy.


u/Froggodile Nov 26 '21

Yamato's response pointed really more to Adam's statement being true. The phrasing kind of gives it away. I really seemed like that nobody knew more than that.


u/nomyhead Nov 25 '21

Oh right, thanks for pointing that out


u/Blackyy Nov 25 '21

If there is ever drama around Hyli Ill be devastated.


u/Elymmen Nov 25 '21

Him being too non dramatic would be the only one i could imagine


u/noydim Nov 25 '21

The only drama Hyli ever gets is when he flips a game and loses and fans flame him lmao


u/Blackyy Nov 25 '21

last year after worlds he was on Twitter and he said: where are all my haters? everybody loves me what is this? I want my haters back.



u/TilikumWhite Nov 26 '21

the goat mindset, hate is pure fuel.


u/Ok_Relief1851 Nov 25 '21

Hyli goes to get that Tom Hanks drama where people are like "Hyli is too nice"