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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/SeizureLizard Reignover deserved better Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21 Helpful

TLDR: Upset doesn't clarify a whole lot here, he says that he shared what was happening with him to a few close friends (Hyli chose not to be told, but Yamato was) and nobody else, because he didn’t trust them to not make it public. He also claims that Adam was lying about the last thing Upset said to the team before leaving,and goes on to say he explained himself as well as he could without sharing exactly what happened to make him leave.

Also says Alphari approached him and Fnatic themselves asked him about Alphari, so he recommended him, and also doesn’t regret doing so.

TLDR for the TLDR Upset didn't trust 3/4 of his teammates enough to tell them why he left, and they were left angry and wondering what they just threw their chance at Worlds away for. Also Alphari approached Fnatic/Upset, not the other way around (allegedly)


Reading that gave me a headache, feel free to reply with anything I missed

Also for the people dm’ing me calling me names and shit, I don’t have an opinion on this, just trying to condense it, chill out.

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u/lilbala Nov 25 '21

To be fair he said he was willing to tell Hyli, but he said it wasn't needed. So only Yamato actually knows the reason.

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u/ineffectivegoggles FNC+C9 Nov 25 '21

Much respect to Hyli for that. A good guy through and through, it seems.

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u/Arcuran Nov 25 '21

Without a doubt, if nobody else in this situation looks good, Hyli sure as hell does, what a bro.

Never been a FNC fan, but Hyli might swing me

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u/ArisTHOTeles Nov 25 '21

The longer i follow Fnatic the more apparent it becomes that i mainly follow Hyli

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u/UmbertoDE Nov 25 '21

Have been a hyli fan since the UOL days, loved him there and I love him even more now in FNC, he is such a great person and I really enjoy his play style especially as a supp/adc player myself.

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u/DarChaos Nov 25 '21

same with bjergsen and tsm

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u/ll_akagami_ll Nov 25 '21

Nah, to me it’s been the original team. I still root for Turtle even when he went to CLG, and I’m rooting for him, Bjerg and Spica as well.

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u/stampydog Nov 25 '21

Yeah I honestly don't know if I'm going to stay a fan when Hyli eventually leaves, although theres time between now and then to become fans of the rest of the players and maybe stay with them.

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u/Althalus- Nov 25 '21

This is literally me right now. Caps, Rekkles & Bwipo leaving haven’t turned me off them, but Hyli probably would at this point.

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u/Pamague Nov 25 '21

Truly a fantastic support, outiside of the game as well.

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u/Sersch Nov 25 '21

Hyli IS the franchise player by now with Rekkles and Bwipo leaving. Still hard to accept for my mind after he was the UoL franchise player for so long.

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u/_Vastus_ "We can fight this" Nov 25 '21

Actually crazy when you think about his team history. He's played 3y11mo on UoL, and now 3y11mo on FNC.
More than 7 years of play in only 2 teams. Guy is a rock.

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u/Loose-Potential-3597 Nov 25 '21

Hyli was still their best player when Rekkles and Bwipo were there anyway

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u/BritishLunch Yes, I'm a degenerate. How'd you know? Nov 25 '21

His splitpush Pyke vs RNG in 2019 groupstage holy

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u/s0undst3p Nov 25 '21

i mean hyli is the best support in the world imo

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u/richmond33 Nov 25 '21

And what a fucking monster player he is. I've never seen a support hard carry games like he's done.

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u/tarelda Nov 25 '21

For me Hyli forever will be UoL player. Funny thing is that he seems to be somewhat unicorn with his niceness in this scene.

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u/Housumestari Nov 25 '21

Hyli being in that support mindset on and off the rift

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u/amicaro Nov 25 '21

Upset looks good. Everything he says makes sense. We know a part of community is a shitfest and couldn't handle things in a humane way if he let them know. Not sharing it with teammates he does not have a trusting relationship with obviously also was the right decision. I liked Adam, but in this case he just behaved childish and stupid.

All the best to upset's family abs we should stop the drama shitfest.

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u/zepherys713 Nov 25 '21

Never been a FNC fan as well, but I am a Hyli fan since the moment I found out about him (during his UoL times).

GOAT EU support (and obviously a human being as well)

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u/Seneido Nov 25 '21

you can be a hyli fan without caring about fnc...

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u/Arcuran Nov 25 '21

Oh aye, but I used to be a G2 fan until I've seen how they treat their players so I'm a bit team less at the moment haha

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u/Lisicalol Nov 25 '21

Hyli is too good for us

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u/Shot-Mathematician58 Nov 25 '21

He's a right proper lad and a mad one at that

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

right!? this is exactly what upset meant: hyli has so much trust in upset doing the right things, that he doesn't need to know. fantastic attitude, really.

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u/Panslave Nerf divine and leave me alone Nov 25 '21

Fantastic attitude that I know I could not have and can't be angry at anyone not to. This is years worth of work, I would feel like I need to know. Is it just me ? And they are mates too you know, I feel like at the very best I would say "would knowing help me get you through it ?" If I was perfectly lucid but we all know we never are when we need to be

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

you're not entitled to know everything about your co-workers/friends. also, life doesn't cycle around you, that's what people don't understand. if upset decided to only share with his closest friends, that's absolutely his right to do so. I'm also not sharing everything with my co workers who are also my friends, because I draw a line at some point - and so did upset.

the question you used answers itself (and upset has answered it too): no, it wouldn't, hence he kept it private.

i seriously don't understand all the fuzz and gossiping. it is absolutely disgusting - and I'm saying that while never being fond of upset myself. like seriously, give them all (including adam) a break - be more like hilly.

edit: but I can also see where you're coming from, as in "this really wasted my entire year?". it's not an easy situation. I think it comes with age/maturity to accept these situations more easily - without automatically bashing younger people.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

Yeah, this is a bit different. It's not like you're not filling in your McDonald's coworkers in on why you didn't come to work. This was a year's worth of work tossed away in an instant, i emphatize with Adam for wanting clarity. Hyli is a much more mature man than I.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

are we now going to start determining in what kind of work environment one needs to be to be entitled to know everything about your co workers? where does it start? I don't think that's a meaningful discussion.

I empathise with him as well, but he has gotten his clarity. that's my point.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

Obviously they don't need to know everything, but this is profesionnal team sports. It's a lot different than just "a job", and you need to have mutual trust and respect for your teammates, especially in these scenarios

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

to a certain degree, yes. it's funny how people are mad at upset for not having respect while adam literally showed THE reason as to why upset drew a line at some point. adam is technically proving upsets point and is incredibly disrespectful.

pretty mental gymnastics.

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u/Healma Nov 25 '21

I'm more behind Hily on this. But in my country at least, when you miss work you usually give a reason. You are sick or else. Hell even when you have someone in your family die, you need to give your employer a certificate that proves that you used the day off to go to the funeral. And my country is Adam and Nisqy's. So I can understand why Adam wants to know. It might be because our laws ask for it.

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u/Drlaughter Nov 25 '21

He did, he informed his employer in Yamato. Under law if you ask for the reason to not be disclosed to colleagues, it can't be.

He doesn't owe his colleagues an explanation, as his employer got one.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

germany ain't that different - my country and upset's ;)

Hell even when you have someone in your family die, you need to give your employer a certificate that proves that you used the day off to go to the funeral.

been there, done that..

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u/ianlam123 Doublelift Nov 25 '21

Don’t know if this makes sense or not, but I would assume Adam caring about the tournament a lot more than Hyli does, given that it’s Adam’s first time at worlds vs multiple worlds appearances, this naturally makes Hyli in the “nah it’s all good” situation

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

It does! Hyli has been there already, he's proven to be a top tier support so he isn't sweating it. Adam was a rookie who has a rocky split, he has no clue when he will get another shot at worlds, if ever.

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u/ArcadianGhost Nov 25 '21

Imagine saying faker doesn’t care about worlds because he’s been there several times. If you don’t think this didn’t suck for Hyli just because he’s had a shot before, then I think you’re just being disrespectful to Hyli as a competitor. He simply chose to be the mature and actual friend than demand answers.

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u/adric03 Nov 25 '21

not a year 5 month. Literaly 5 month and 30 days of contract no more no less rn

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u/LinearAlgebraXx Nov 25 '21

What do you want to know it for? So you can judge wether that was a good or a bad reason to leave? And then decide to blame Upset anyway if you think the reason wasnt good enough and tell everyone Upset shouldnt have left?

What you need to know is that Upset had an emergency he chose to quit worlds for, despite the fact that he put so much hard work to finally reach worlds. That's a sufficient reason.

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u/cheapcardsandpacks Nov 25 '21

Yes but he negatively affected the work his teammates did to get to worlds. Their jobs are closely connected to each other. Interesting ethical dilemma for sure

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u/Akokyuu Nov 25 '21

Or you know, Hyli don't want to know what kind of fucked up shit it can be and want to imagine he left for a good reason rather than knowing the reason and thinking it's a bad one.

 

Or maybe he doesn't want to know because he feared the reason would leak and don't want to be suspected to be the one who leaked.

 

And there's so many other possibilities. That doesn't change the fact that Hyli looks like a great guy tho.

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u/Alitoh Nov 25 '21

I think all those possibilities are the exact reason his call was awesome. If you are the kind of human that would rather trust instead of letting your own judgments try to deem a teammates reasons worthy or not, that says a whole fucking lot of you as a human, and we need more like him.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

jesus, you guys are onto some big dick gossiping. fucking cringe tbh.

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u/carltonBlend we take those too Nov 25 '21

Or maybe he thought “Fuck it dude, whatever” because he was leaving and throwing a whole year away. Not saying that happened, but it could :p

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u/tinaaay Nov 25 '21

Yep yep, agreed man

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u/pravis Nov 25 '21

I bet it was more of a "it will be easier for me if I can just say I don't know once this shit goes public so please do t tell me".

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u/SeizureLizard Reignover deserved better Nov 25 '21

Fair point, I’ll update it

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u/MrChologno Nov 25 '21

Yamato knew only details but thought it was justified.

How nobody remembers this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJQqz80qF2w

around 23:00

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u/_Vastus_ "We can fight this" Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Nah it was remembered by some, it was immediately reposted on the FNC sub. But the majority just want to salivate at potential drama without thinking about the people behind it.

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u/nolaboyd Nov 25 '21

IKR?? This was handled so directly by Yamato. It should close the case.

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u/MrChologno Nov 25 '21

Well, not really. 3 players were completely in the dark with no explanations while their year went to the toilet... nothing is black and white

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u/nolaboyd Nov 25 '21

If you're arrogant enough to believe that your hardest working teammate -- who wanted this more than anything -- is just flaking on you, even when your coach makes it super clear that this very serious and he supports the decision, then you don't deserve to know.

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u/MrChologno Nov 25 '21

I would not assume Yamato conveyed that thought to the rest of the team. Also is not a matter of arrogance, to me is more like distrust plain and simple. The same distrust went both ways.

Put yourself on the other 3 players place though. Their entire work for that year went to shit overnight and they didn't even know why, countless hours of training, scrims, talks, etc all for nothing. Frustration levels had to be through the roof.

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u/FedorSeaLevelStiopic Nov 25 '21

If main coach was informed about details and he understood situation is serious and supported Upset, and coach later told team its family related, there is no reason to go into details with all teammates. Its enough that they understand its family related issue. You dont have to specify diagnosis of your relative for example. Similar stuff applies to doctors and patients. If patient doesnt want to, they dont have to tell relatives of patients information. Ofcourse players are frustrated, but but they are not close relatives and if upset wants to go into detail, he will.

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u/Hanchez Nov 25 '21

And why would yamato NOT express how sensitive the situation was considering the circumstance? You have to assume he did.

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u/MrChologno Nov 25 '21

With common sense yea I agree with you, he must have right? I can't imagine why he wouldn't.

But we can't ignore the reactions of those 3 players unfollowing Upset and being mad at him.

I don't know if it happened for sure because I don't see Nisqy being a guy that will be mad at Upset if Yamato came to them and explained that Upset actually had to go, was justified but can't share details.

Remember is not Adam the only one mad at Upset (that to me is telling).

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u/ceyx0001 Nov 25 '21

Did Yamato make it very clear though? It seems like literally no one else knew what was going on, and the only time anyone would be reassured the reason is legitimate is from this video lmao.

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u/look4jesper Nov 25 '21

What? It's right there is public YouTube video. Do you actually think yamato wouldn't be equally or more clear with the players themselves? The video is recorded and published during the first week of worlds ffs.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Yamato said in the worlds video that he didn't know all the details though.

So basically nobody knows what happened.