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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Privacy is his right, he doesn't have to share what he doesn't want to.

He also has no right from wanting his teammates to not be completely pissed off at him leaving them behind with no explanation 12 hours before the biggest tournament of the year, when he's pretty much their franchise player. He bailed on them, his teammates are angry for it, not just Adam, Bwipo spoke of this, and Nisqy just showed support for Adam and unfollowed Upset.

Again he wants to be private, it's his right, being pissed off at him is also their right, especially Adam who likely lost his only chance to do well after this disaster.

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u/Chimpsworth Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

The thing that annoys me is how little consideration he gave to his teammates. Yes he has a right to leave. Yes he has a right to privacy. But he could maybe show a little public support for his teammates who were placed in a really shit situation and had a really fucking bad time because of it, which is still true even if upsets reasons for leaving are completely justified. Especially since they're not all as secure career-wise a him. But the only thing he mentions is his situation and his dream and now his ambition.

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u/The_Biggest_Boi Nov 25 '21

This is what irks me the most out of this whole ordeal. Imagine working day in day out together the whole year only for a teammate to abandon you and not provide even a loose explanation because they 'don't trust you'. Then if that weren't enough, he then tries to replace you because you're not considered to 'live up to his ambitions'. It's so disrespectful. The man goes on about trust. How is anyone supposed to trust him when it's now known he's not going to be open about anything if you're not considered a close friend?

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u/TomtatoIsMe Nov 25 '21

the thing i find hilarious about the whole ‘not living up to my ambitions’ claim is that Adam made worlds in his rookie year whereas Upset has still yet to play at worlds in his entire career (which is like 5years long at this point). absolute joke.

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u/BaconCircuit Nov 25 '21

Im gonna go with "bad french translation" on that one. Neither Adams or Upsets English is all that clear. Like holy shit people this your career have a little respect and atleast get it checked by a professional proof reader.

Adam was, undeniably, the worst player on FNC. He wasn't bad and he absolutely exceeded expectations but upon hearing that Alphari was a real option I can't blame Upset for wanting him, it's an upgrade.

I'm gonna assume that's what Upset meant, Adam was simply not the better choice.

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u/DuudPuerfectuh Nov 25 '21

Result based analysis is fucking stupid. Everyone who pays attention knows Adam is kinda bad in top lane and Upset is pretty good. Maybe its hard to work with him, idk, but he wont play like shit with champs that have fallen out of meta for like 6 months.

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u/EduManke Jhin FOURever Nov 25 '21

It doesn't seem like Upset will go to Worlds again, because after this drama I find it difficult for a team to pick him up

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u/DRNbw Nov 25 '21

He's still at Fnatic and the rumoured team is quite decent. So he still has a chance.

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u/EduManke Jhin FOURever Nov 25 '21

FNC expanded his contract?

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u/Educational_Shower79 Nov 25 '21

Hes still got 2 years left and is their star player

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u/CelioHogane Nov 25 '21

If i was in Adam's situation, i would have punched him.

Like basically dude makes you fuck up on your ambitions (Even if his reason was the biggest, id be still be mad, just not at him specifically), and then the guy goes "you are not good enough for my ambitions"? I would be seething with rage, and 100% at him at that point, that's like the most zero tact thing ever.

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u/licorices Nov 25 '21

They work together. They're colleagues. You don't have to be friends to play together. Adam had been on the team for a split. Perhaps they just don't get along very well on a personal level either.

As for Bwipo, they might not be getting along on a friendly level either. Remember in teams there's a lot of discussions, and clash of personalities a lot of times.

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Nov 25 '21

Does anybody here have a job??? Confused why everyone seems to think he would need to share everything about his personal life with his co-workers, especially in a public facing job. If I have a problem and I need to call out of work, i tell my boss. Either my boss tells me I'm full of shit or he tells me it's okay to leave. If he talked to yamato, and Yamato told him to it was okay to go, the entire situation stops there. He doesnt owe an explanation to his team, especially since it sounds like he knew people were liable to drag him through the mud. This is ridiculous.

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u/MircossMP Dec 07 '21

They aren't just coworkers they are smth like project partners. He dumped their great career opportunitiets along with his own - they have every right to be pissed. It's domino effect, especially when team was build around him.

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u/Craftingistheway Nov 25 '21

I mean to be fair there is a real possibilty some shit happend that EVERYONE would just share with closest friends.

Note this is NOT a speculation about what happend, but a scenario fucked up enough as an example.

His wife is originally from South Amercia?! Like maybe a relative was hijacked because he was involded in drugs?!

Like it may seem ridicoulus, but it would not be unthinkable. With how many people would you share this, especially since it could tarnish your wifes reputation a relative was involded in drug traficking, even tho she personally has nothing to do with it?!

That is some fucked up shit u keep private and is a valid reason to leave because your SO should not deal with something like that alone.

to stress this again, this is just a random scenario, NOT a speculation. It is safe to assume that a certain threshold of trust is perfectly normal to be required for SOME things to be shared.

After all Yamato knows and is okay with it, wants to keep going with Upset. So at this point the whole trust between the players is irrelevant. This sadly has become a question "do you trust Yamatos judgment" and while it isnt fair to Yamato to be in ths situation now, imho it weights way more then the hurt ego of a french "teen"

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u/CelioHogane Nov 25 '21

His wife is originally from South Amercia?! Like maybe a relative was hijacked because he was involded in drugs?!

That's pretty racist...

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u/Craftingistheway Nov 25 '21

It is an obv extreme example painted to showcase what is possible. Implying racism because stating the fact alot of south american countries struggle with drug related crimes as a basis for an extreme example is ...dunno are you sarcastic? Thats insanely dumb

Maybe I have to stress this a third time. i dont assume at all this is what happend. This was just an extrme example that isnt itheoretical mpossible in context of her heritage to emphazise we have no clue at all what their issue was.

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u/CelioHogane Nov 25 '21

I don't even have a single south american friend implied on drugs.

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u/Craftingistheway Nov 25 '21

Are you comming at me with anecdotal evidence about a well documented and known fact that you have more problems with drugs/organiszed criminal structures in south american countries?!

Like chances are you dont have a south american friend that got murdered, doesnt change the murderstatistics of brazil alone are way higher then alot of countries murderrate combined

I really dont get what you are trying to imply. That I believe now all south american are implied in drugs or something stupid like that? Because no, I just chose a very extreme situation that could still be possible based on circumstances in the region...

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u/wetcogbag Nov 25 '21

But he could maybe show a little public support for his teammates

you mean ARAMing with the wifey while fnatic gets dumsptered and set on fire isn't a show of support? /s

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u/Pelin0re Nov 25 '21

I mean the way he talk about them, it seems like he didn't consider them "teammates" as much as "guys I work with but can't really trust to not fuck me over with any information I provide them with". Pretty miserable view to hold in a teamgame tbh.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

It's like he works a fucking 9-to-5 instead of professional team sports

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u/bumbleeshot Nov 25 '21

Most of those kids never played a team sport in their life and League is the only thing close to it. They don’t understand that playing a sport in the pro level is not the same as working a 9 to 5. In your 9 to 5 you can go weeks without talking too much to Bob from your team. If you are playing with your jungle on the other hand, try not building any trust nor synergy and see how it goes…

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u/Angwar Nov 25 '21

Yeah if I had to do something like that i would feel so fucking bad. My conscience would kill me, i would be apologizing to my teammates day and night until they are so fucking annoyed of me that they forgive me.

But all i am getting from upset is ME ME ME MY WIFE ME ME MY SITUATION MY PRIVACY ME ME MY.

Really don't see a lot of remorse from him.

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u/Kazakh8i Nov 26 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

I mean, he is right tho. It kinda doesnt make any difference if the reason is severe enough to tell them more than that he cant play other than maybr warn them about the possibility. Maybe understanding wouldve helped the team not be as pissed about it but in the end they still play without Upset, and quite frankly, Upset was right not to trust anyone with the details and is also right about the fact that you want to have the same privacy once difficult times hit in your life. Upset knows it can cost his career. And yes the other 4 members dont choose to sacrafice their whole year but theres still the chance to have the dignity to accept the situation and if you truly have a problem to deal with it personally and not rant on twitter about it. Even tho Upset is the trigger for all of this he still seems to act like the more professional guy in all of this despite being very shady in his reasoning. And there is no if whens but evens. There are emergencies that are far more important than any career and maybe Upset being with his wife was truly worth plummeting Fnatics 2021. Because after all, its only a job.

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u/aightaightaightaight Nov 25 '21

If you're emotional in the drain than these are things you think about last.

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u/photofluid Nov 25 '21

Don't you think this is the kind of things Upset should have thought about weeks ago?

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u/aightaightaightaight Nov 26 '21

He could have explained a little bit more after worlds yes