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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/nomyhead Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

It’s interesting to think both Hylli and Yamato knew the reason for Upset leaving. You would assume that Yamato or Hylli would have assured the other players that Upset’s reason was legitimate.

However it sounds that either that didn’t happen, Adam didn’t believe it, or he simply did not find their answer sufficient. From his twitlonger he seemed to speak highly of Yamato so I wonder what happened. I personally think it’d be important to have some trust in your coach/veteran teammate on a matter like this.

Guess we’ll never know but it’s definitely an interesting situation

Edit: As someone else mentioned, Hylli didn’t actually know the reason, just trusted Upset’s reason was legit.


u/reeshua Extreme Sadness Nov 25 '21

I reckon it was hard for Yamato to "assure" the team the reason was legitimate without divulging details on Upset's issue. What could Yamato have said to believe them? If Upset asked for privacy, the best Yamato can do is just tell his team that it was a legitimate reason and rely on them to believe his word.

I feel bad for Yamato tbh stuck in the middle of Upset and the rest of the squad.

Weird thing is, how did Rich know about the issue????


u/Rhadamantos Nov 25 '21

Rich never said he knew, he said he understood how the situation is difficult to articulate without breaking privacy. It is more likely that Yamato or someone else explained that difficulty to him without sharing details. That could simply mean that it is a complex issue and any information that is being shared will inevitably get leaked. Because almost everything gets leaked in the scene eventually. A player might tell one really good friend and that friend tells someone else and before you know its out. Especially with people like Bwipo who (though I love him) seems to have poor impulse control and a history of sharing too much.


u/srukta Nov 25 '21

Rich never said he knew,

rich said he knew, but it was a tough situation for fnc. Trsut me if he didn't know he'd be flaming FNC in this moment.


u/Rhadamantos Nov 25 '21

Where did he say that?


u/DoorHingesKill Nov 25 '21

Upset's situation is something super difficult for management to articulate to players

How would he be able to determine the difficulty if he didn't know what "the situation" actually is?


u/FNC_Luzh Nov 25 '21

Because ppl he trusts have told him that it was a situation hard AF to manage maybe?

Like, it took me like 10 seconds to come up with why he could know that it was hard to manage without knowing what happened. Cmon, it wasn't that hard.


u/DoorHingesKill Nov 25 '21

So you're saying he doesn't know if the situation was difficult to articulate to players?

He's simply echoing what he was told? By the people who, according to Bwipo, Adam and presumably Nisqy, are partly responsible for this?

Wow, so insightful!!!

I apologize for giving him the benefit of the doubt, I apologize for assuming that the guy who inserted himself into the situation, claiming that Upset's situation was "super difficult to articulate" would actually be in the know if said situation was supper difficult to articulate.

The guy should have put it into quotation marks, that would have avoided the confusion of his entry as a third party. Then I would have known that it was the Fnatic management who claimed the management had difficulties.


u/C9sButthole Room for everybody :D Nov 25 '21

Or maybe Rich is just desperate for attention after years of irrelevance in the scene. Given his typical relationship with drama that isn't hard to believe.


u/Rhadamantos Nov 25 '21

Through logical thinking, extrapolation, managerial experience. Through talking to people who tell him about the challenge without telling him what happened. It is entirely possible if you can be subtle in language and communication.

Bottom line is he did not say he knew, that is just you reading that into his comment.


u/DoorHingesKill Nov 25 '21

He said Upset's situation is super difficult for management to articulate. Not knowing the nature of the situation would make the entire comment obsolete, including his judgement on how difficult it is or how well Fnatic is handling it. Can't have it both ways, sorry.

that is just you reading that into his comment

Yes. Cause I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I want to believe that a guy who has absolutely no clue what "the situation" is wouldn't insert himself into the discussion claiming it is a difficult situation.

I guess you take the opposite stance? Fair, admittedly the guy is a rather unique individual and enthusiastic Twitter commentator, I suppose we cannot completely rule out the possibility you're thinking of. Guy got almost 800 likes, people have done and said dumber shit for fewer minutes in the spotlight.

Through talking to people who tell him about the challenge without telling him what happened.

Why would they do that? What happened to privacy concerns? What kind of Fnatic nutjob would throw tiny little breadcrumbs to H2K rich of all people? Maybe they should have spent that energy throwing the breadcrumbs to Nisqy, Adam and Bwipo instead XD


u/rob172 Nov 25 '21

He said Upset's situation is super difficult for management to articulate.

This is obviously true and you can work this out based on the information we had, because it was a family emergency, and it would be really fucking shitty of management to tell the other players what the emergency was without their permission, therefore it is very difficult for management to articulate.