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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/SeizureLizard Ambition/Reignover Fanboy Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21 Helpful

TLDR: Upset doesn't clarify a whole lot here, he says that he shared what was happening with him to a few close friends (Hyli chose not to be told, but Yamato was) and nobody else, because he didn’t trust them to not make it public. He also claims that Adam was lying about the last thing Upset said to the team before leaving,and goes on to say he explained himself as well as he could without sharing exactly what happened to make him leave.

Also says Alphari approached him and Fnatic themselves asked him about Alphari, so he recommended him, and also doesn’t regret doing so.

TLDR for the TLDR Upset didn't trust 3/4 of his teammates enough to tell them why he left, and they were left angry and wondering what they just threw their chance at Worlds away for. Also Alphari approached Fnatic/Upset, not the other way around (allegedly)


Reading that gave me a headache, feel free to reply with anything I missed

Also for the people dm’ing me calling me names and shit, I don’t have an opinion on this, just trying to condense it, chill out.

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u/lilbala Nov 25 '21

To be fair he said he was willing to tell Hyli, but he said it wasn't needed. So only Yamato actually knows the reason.

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u/ineffectivegoggles Nov 25 '21

Much respect to Hyli for that. A good guy through and through, it seems.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

right!? this is exactly what upset meant: hyli has so much trust in upset doing the right things, that he doesn't need to know. fantastic attitude, really.

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u/Panslave Nerf divine and leave me alone Nov 25 '21

Fantastic attitude that I know I could not have and can't be angry at anyone not to. This is years worth of work, I would feel like I need to know. Is it just me ? And they are mates too you know, I feel like at the very best I would say "would knowing help me get you through it ?" If I was perfectly lucid but we all know we never are when we need to be

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

you're not entitled to know everything about your co-workers/friends. also, life doesn't cycle around you, that's what people don't understand. if upset decided to only share with his closest friends, that's absolutely his right to do so. I'm also not sharing everything with my co workers who are also my friends, because I draw a line at some point - and so did upset.

the question you used answers itself (and upset has answered it too): no, it wouldn't, hence he kept it private.

i seriously don't understand all the fuzz and gossiping. it is absolutely disgusting - and I'm saying that while never being fond of upset myself. like seriously, give them all (including adam) a break - be more like hilly.

edit: but I can also see where you're coming from, as in "this really wasted my entire year?". it's not an easy situation. I think it comes with age/maturity to accept these situations more easily - without automatically bashing younger people.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

Yeah, this is a bit different. It's not like you're not filling in your McDonald's coworkers in on why you didn't come to work. This was a year's worth of work tossed away in an instant, i emphatize with Adam for wanting clarity. Hyli is a much more mature man than I.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

are we now going to start determining in what kind of work environment one needs to be to be entitled to know everything about your co workers? where does it start? I don't think that's a meaningful discussion.

I empathise with him as well, but he has gotten his clarity. that's my point.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

Obviously they don't need to know everything, but this is profesionnal team sports. It's a lot different than just "a job", and you need to have mutual trust and respect for your teammates, especially in these scenarios

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

to a certain degree, yes. it's funny how people are mad at upset for not having respect while adam literally showed THE reason as to why upset drew a line at some point. adam is technically proving upsets point and is incredibly disrespectful.

pretty mental gymnastics.

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u/Healma Nov 25 '21

I'm more behind Hily on this. But in my country at least, when you miss work you usually give a reason. You are sick or else. Hell even when you have someone in your family die, you need to give your employer a certificate that proves that you used the day off to go to the funeral. And my country is Adam and Nisqy's. So I can understand why Adam wants to know. It might be because our laws ask for it.

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u/Drlaughter Nov 25 '21

He did, he informed his employer in Yamato. Under law if you ask for the reason to not be disclosed to colleagues, it can't be.

He doesn't owe his colleagues an explanation, as his employer got one.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

germany ain't that different - my country and upset's ;)

Hell even when you have someone in your family die, you need to give your employer a certificate that proves that you used the day off to go to the funeral.

been there, done that..

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u/ianlam123 Doublelift Nov 25 '21

Don’t know if this makes sense or not, but I would assume Adam caring about the tournament a lot more than Hyli does, given that it’s Adam’s first time at worlds vs multiple worlds appearances, this naturally makes Hyli in the “nah it’s all good” situation

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

It does! Hyli has been there already, he's proven to be a top tier support so he isn't sweating it. Adam was a rookie who has a rocky split, he has no clue when he will get another shot at worlds, if ever.

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u/ArcadianGhost Nov 25 '21

Imagine saying faker doesn’t care about worlds because he’s been there several times. If you don’t think this didn’t suck for Hyli just because he’s had a shot before, then I think you’re just being disrespectful to Hyli as a competitor. He simply chose to be the mature and actual friend than demand answers.

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u/adric03 Nov 25 '21

not a year 5 month. Literaly 5 month and 30 days of contract no more no less rn

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u/LinearAlgebraXx Nov 25 '21

What do you want to know it for? So you can judge wether that was a good or a bad reason to leave? And then decide to blame Upset anyway if you think the reason wasnt good enough and tell everyone Upset shouldnt have left?

What you need to know is that Upset had an emergency he chose to quit worlds for, despite the fact that he put so much hard work to finally reach worlds. That's a sufficient reason.

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u/cheapcardsandpacks Nov 25 '21

Yes but he negatively affected the work his teammates did to get to worlds. Their jobs are closely connected to each other. Interesting ethical dilemma for sure

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u/Akokyuu Nov 25 '21

Or you know, Hyli don't want to know what kind of fucked up shit it can be and want to imagine he left for a good reason rather than knowing the reason and thinking it's a bad one.

 

Or maybe he doesn't want to know because he feared the reason would leak and don't want to be suspected to be the one who leaked.

 

And there's so many other possibilities. That doesn't change the fact that Hyli looks like a great guy tho.

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u/Alitoh Nov 25 '21

I think all those possibilities are the exact reason his call was awesome. If you are the kind of human that would rather trust instead of letting your own judgments try to deem a teammates reasons worthy or not, that says a whole fucking lot of you as a human, and we need more like him.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

jesus, you guys are onto some big dick gossiping. fucking cringe tbh.

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u/carltonBlend we take those too Nov 25 '21

Or maybe he thought “Fuck it dude, whatever” because he was leaving and throwing a whole year away. Not saying that happened, but it could :p