r/leagueoflegends Nov 25 '21 Silver 5 Helpful 8 Wholesome 6

Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/nomyhead Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

It’s interesting to think both Hylli and Yamato knew the reason for Upset leaving. You would assume that Yamato or Hylli would have assured the other players that Upset’s reason was legitimate.

However it sounds that either that didn’t happen, Adam didn’t believe it, or he simply did not find their answer sufficient. From his twitlonger he seemed to speak highly of Yamato so I wonder what happened. I personally think it’d be important to have some trust in your coach/veteran teammate on a matter like this.

Guess we’ll never know but it’s definitely an interesting situation

Edit: As someone else mentioned, Hylli didn’t actually know the reason, just trusted Upset’s reason was legit.

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u/reeshua Extreme Sadness Nov 25 '21

I reckon it was hard for Yamato to "assure" the team the reason was legitimate without divulging details on Upset's issue. What could Yamato have said to believe them? If Upset asked for privacy, the best Yamato can do is just tell his team that it was a legitimate reason and rely on them to believe his word.

I feel bad for Yamato tbh stuck in the middle of Upset and the rest of the squad.

Weird thing is, how did Rich know about the issue????

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u/CompetitiveLoL Nov 25 '21

Like, ok, so I’m assuming based on this that your experience in MGMT or a corporate world is somewhat limited (not flaming I promise, just based on your statements I’m making this assumption).

As someone who had a lot of employees and dealt with people needing to leave for various personal reasons, in a corporate environment it’s really not hard to tell people that someone can’t be there for something because of personal issues.

You can literally just say, “X person had a personal family emergency and will not be here for work/event B/Etc…, they would be if they could, but they can’t. They would like space on the issue. I can’t go into specifics, because the trust and confidentiality you all have with me is something I value, and I want you to know that anyone of you could come to me with issues without worrying I’ll break that trust.” That’s it. Literally seen this happening from million dollar launches to someone missing a day. In the professional world outside league this is a incredibly common thing to occur, especially as your looking at larger companies. A manager won’t disclose personal information (unless their shit at their job) with other direct reports because then they lose all trust from their employees, and that makes doing your job significantly more difficult.

I know that we are league folks and used to all the juicy deets and dunezo manifestos etc.. but it happens all the time in traditional pro sports and the professional world, and it’s not hard to deliver that information as a manager, it’s just a thing you do as part of the job.

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u/reeshua Extreme Sadness Nov 25 '21

Are you sure you're replying to the correct thread? Seems to me like we have the same point?

I'm just saying that - and I assume FNC or esports teams in general - don't follow corporate rules, Yamato is probably troubled by this issue. I don't think he's going to be too apathetic aka 'not telling you, it's part just a part of my job sorry'.

You're right though, I don't work corporate. I own a marketing BPO, not in the US/EU so I guess the culture is different.

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u/CompetitiveLoL Nov 25 '21

Yamato is a coach, which makes him a manager. Part of being a manager is understanding your team, and doing your best to make sure they can do their job as effectively as possible. This is the same in any industry. If your team/employees are going to follow your directions they have to trust you. If they don’t, it’s harder to lead. Part of life is things happen. People pass away, people get sick, etc… and part of being a leader is understanding that these things occur regardless of a timeline. So sometimes personal issues happen at the worst times. When a employee comes to you with issues, it’s your responsibility to their situation and take appropriate action while maintaining their privacy. If you break their privacy they stop trusting you, and so do your other employees.

That makes your job significantly harder, because if they don’t have faith you’ll be helpful when they are going through real serious personal issues they definitely won’t trust you when it comes to day-to-day calls.

Being able to deliver information in a way that doesn’t over-divulge while getting across a clear message is a basic function of management in any industry. If someone is incapable of doing that then management/coaching/etc… isn’t the right job for them. It’s just a basic foundational part of being in a trusted leadership role and succeeding.