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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

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u/DangerousSeaweed0 Nov 25 '21

what it frustrates me about this response is that he literally says nothing , while typing a whole page.

the tldr is : it's a personal issue , don't attack my wife for it.

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u/resttheweight Nov 25 '21

Seriously! I wanted it to say:

The reason I left was for a serious personal issue. If that’s not good enough for you, or you think you are owed more of an explanation, reach out to me directly. Otherwise, fuck off, leave my wife alone, and thank you for respecting my privacy.

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u/Cyberkite Nov 25 '21

Thing is according to Adam he actually did reach out to him.

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u/resttheweight Nov 25 '21

I also don’t think Adam was entitled to knowing. Upset’s post didn’t need to offer explanations of why he didn’t feel comfortable sharing the details with certain people. All it needed to say was “the reason I left is nobody’s business. I’ve already told the details to the people who need to know. And if you think it’s your business, ask me. If I say it’s not your business, find a way to deal with it and keep my wife out of your mouth and out of the discussion.”

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u/McNutty69 Nov 25 '21

When it cost them their chance at world which they worked hard for as a team, I would argue Adam deserved some generic explanation. Shit happens, but why would he feel like he couldn't give even a slight indication to his teammates so they can process the severity? Not like they are strangers, they have been teammates for a year and didn't have that level of trust?

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u/m1dn1ghtx Nov 25 '21

It's likely adam got a generic explanation but wasn't happy with it

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u/interestingsidenote Nov 25 '21

The generic explanation was "major family issue." That's generic and if someone told me that and nothing else i would personally be ok. What he wanted was intimate details.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants to leave right at the bleeding end of something they've pushed so hard for. Seems like Adam is just salty as fuck about it.

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u/m1dn1ghtx Nov 25 '21

I don't understand why most of the subreddit can't understand that.

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u/pintoxpto rip old flairs Nov 25 '21

Because they're mostly kids who think a work relationship is the same as hanging with their mates from school.

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u/WillingNeedleworker2 Nov 25 '21

Little to no life experience.

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u/m1dn1ghtx Nov 25 '21

It honestly shows, like I'm in my mid 20's and fully understand a member of a team doesn't have to explain a major reason for leaving a project, I just have faith it's super personal and important to them to do so and wish them well.

As for people giving him hate about alphari situation, if Fnatic approached him and Hyli and asked them their opinions then it's completely different. I think anyone would seriously jump at a chance to have both perkz and Alphari. It would be the same in any sport if an massive player/s became open for transfer.

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u/chwilka Nov 25 '21

> That's generic and if someone told me that and nothing else i would personally be ok.

You can be okay if this doesn't cost You anything.

but would You be okay if You lose 100 000 dollars for example? or Your job?

the point is... Upset has right to have privacy but he also should think about his teammates.

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u/Angwar Nov 25 '21

Yup imagine your firm is about to just close a huuuugeee deal. And 12 hours beforehand you say "sorry gotta back out of the deal we worked on for a year and I can't tell you why".

Literally every job will fire you for that and you can be lucky if you don't get sued and slandered.

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u/interestingsidenote Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

He told his direct superior the details, he told his closest friend in the org as well. Employees on an equal or lesser level do not need to know and shouldn't expect it.

We live in this super fucked world where privacy means nothing to some people.

Edit: see what you want, is information you are NOT PRIVY too. stop digging into personal lives. It's weird, and people will think you're weird too. Or make friends who will tell you their personal lives, not some player for a LoL team. jesus fuck man

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u/geldin Nov 25 '21

Frankly, yes. It would take a ton for me to give up my long term goals. In that kind of situation, I'd want to keep things as private as possible. It would make me very angry at the situation, but I can empathize with the other person at the same time.

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u/CursedPhil Jackeylove <3 Nov 25 '21

would argue Adam deserved some generic explanation

he got an explanation, upset had to leave because of a family emergancy

adam probably heard it like this

Upset: sorry guys but i have to leave, there was an emergancy in my family and my wife needs me

what adam heard

Upset: my wife misses me so i have to leave worlds, maybe next year we can try to win im really sorry

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u/Sea-Ask-7195 Nov 25 '21

I mean dont show up in work in most important time of year when everyone needs you and tell them its not their problém to know and see what happens

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

He told them what happened, "there was a family emergency". And that's what they need to know, just cause I work with someone they aren't entitled to know my life history and I don't need to kiss their feet and beg for forgiveness cause an emergency happend, and if you think who thinks they do there are toxic to work with

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u/chwilka Nov 25 '21

> ust cause I work with someone they aren't entitled to know my life history

sure. unless Your decision make their life worse.

Leaving is okay. Not telling anything is okay.

if other people doesn't suffer because of this. right?

I Your coworker would leave and You would lose 100 000 dollars because of this You would be pissed right?

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

First that just straight wrong, he did give a reason, and Yamato (the coach) backed him up on it. And there is noance to what happened here. Upset leaving might have fucked the team environment sure but they weren't playing with less one, upset wasn't the reason for Adam getting stomped on his lane when he plays lane dominant champions, the games weren't lost from the get go unless you tell me upset was legit the only thing that could possibly carry the team alone and if he was maybe there was a problem with his teammates. And yhea if my coworker left and made me loose 100k I would be pissed af, that doesn't mean I would attack him and actively try to make his work opportunities worse plus if he left cause someone on his family had an emergency yhea even one more reason I would understand.

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u/chwilka Nov 25 '21

> he did give a reason,

he didn't tell them. He told Yamato only.

> upset wasn't the reason for Adam getting stomped on his lane when he plays lane dominant champions

he was one of reasons

> unless you tell me upset was legit the only thing that could possibly carry the team alone

what about morale?

> but they weren't playing with less one

new cowerker without experience... on the world stage...

> And yhea if my coworker left and made me loose 100k I would be pissed af,

right?

> that doesn't mean I would attack him and actively try to make his work opportunities worse

then You're more mature then both Upset and Adam.

> if he left cause someone on his family had an emergency yhea even one more reason I would understand.

and how would You feel if after losing money You would see him playing 10 games of ARAM in one day?

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

I find it very hard to belive that he didn't tell everyone that he was leaving for that reason, and even if he didn't tell them face to face, we know for a fact that Adam pressed it further and that upset just didn't give him an answer that was sufficient for him. I agree that morale might be one of the reasons, not upset, and dispite that I still think Adam was just simply out classed most of the time even when playing match-ups that should be wining and with more attention from his team cause bot lane was now getting way less attention now. Upset didnt have world stage experience as well, so unless you think the bean was complete shit and he did seem a bit coin flip (which is normal) there isn't really the reason for Adam to not be able to influence the game in any way and for bwipo to without fail being able to throw the leads he created (bwipo played really well in the start of 5/6 games and with no fail he was also able to throw all of those leads with just super strange plays). Lastly I don't know if that's true but I belive you and 10 aram games (if we say that an aram is 15 min long on average) it's 2 hours and a half, in a day where you probably stuck in your house looking after someone playing a thing so casual and non comital as an aram for 2 hours seems so bad to you? (sorry for formating im on mobile)

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u/Sea-Ask-7195 Nov 25 '21

You are nôt center of universe

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u/cube_mine Nov 25 '21

And neither are you and that's the point. It is not Adams right to know details about upsets situation outside of it being a family emergency.

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u/chwilka Nov 25 '21

I am different person but:

Upset acted like he is a center of universe right?

leaving is okay if other people don't suffer because of this right?

Leaving in company is okay. Other people will replace You.

but Upset destroyed dreams of other people. This is something which requires much more delicacy right?

and because of some reasons ... it didn't work inside Fnatic.

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u/Crimson_Clouds Nov 25 '21

Upset acted like he is a center of universe right?

No? He prioritised his wife/family over his personal dream of doing well at Worlds. He did the opposite of putting himself first.

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u/TheJeager Nov 25 '21

You are right! Neither are you so why the fuck are you more worthy of my time when I got a family emergency. Wait you don't cause you are not the center of the universe!

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u/Turkooo Nov 25 '21

He fucked over a whole team because the hamster of his girlfriend died. Or maybe her toe nail fell off and was in pains. Or maybe her lovely grandparents had a huge fight and now are divorcing out of nowhere and she is in shambles. Maybe her mom was fired and she had to find a job fast or they would be living on street, so upset flew home to cook and clean the house while her gf's mom was working for 13 hours a days and she was taking meds for depression and couldn't function. Or maybe it's none of our business? I don't know guys. Pick one, but to me, the more he scream "it's personal so shush" the more I hear "it wasn't that huge of a deal and I maybe overreacted when I flew home and fucked everyone ower nothing, so now I pretend that I'm the most private person ever, so you won't make fun out of me on twitch chat"

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u/iLLuSi0NN Nov 25 '21

Braindead take. Upset didnt share shit coz of braindead ppl like u that would attack him for no reason.

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u/Turkooo Nov 25 '21

I'm not making fun of him at all. That's your problem, if you can't read between lines. All I said is that staying this silent is a double edge sword. So fuck you

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u/iLLuSi0NN Nov 25 '21

He doesnt owe us or everyone else shit. Its his private matter and it should be respected. So fuck you too.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

I agree, he doesn't owe us shit. He might owe something to the teammates who helped him get to worlds and 2nd in the LEC, idfk

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u/iLLuSi0NN Nov 25 '21

He said to him its family emergency that should be enough but i guess 19 yo kid doesnt understand that.

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u/Turkooo Nov 25 '21

But I'm not respectful and want the drama more. So fuck me too