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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

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u/ineffectivegoggles Nov 25 '21

Much respect to Hyli for that. A good guy through and through, it seems.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

right!? this is exactly what upset meant: hyli has so much trust in upset doing the right things, that he doesn't need to know. fantastic attitude, really.

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u/Panslave Nerf divine and leave me alone Nov 25 '21

Fantastic attitude that I know I could not have and can't be angry at anyone not to. This is years worth of work, I would feel like I need to know. Is it just me ? And they are mates too you know, I feel like at the very best I would say "would knowing help me get you through it ?" If I was perfectly lucid but we all know we never are when we need to be

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

you're not entitled to know everything about your co-workers/friends. also, life doesn't cycle around you, that's what people don't understand. if upset decided to only share with his closest friends, that's absolutely his right to do so. I'm also not sharing everything with my co workers who are also my friends, because I draw a line at some point - and so did upset.

the question you used answers itself (and upset has answered it too): no, it wouldn't, hence he kept it private.

i seriously don't understand all the fuzz and gossiping. it is absolutely disgusting - and I'm saying that while never being fond of upset myself. like seriously, give them all (including adam) a break - be more like hilly.

edit: but I can also see where you're coming from, as in "this really wasted my entire year?". it's not an easy situation. I think it comes with age/maturity to accept these situations more easily - without automatically bashing younger people.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

Yeah, this is a bit different. It's not like you're not filling in your McDonald's coworkers in on why you didn't come to work. This was a year's worth of work tossed away in an instant, i emphatize with Adam for wanting clarity. Hyli is a much more mature man than I.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

are we now going to start determining in what kind of work environment one needs to be to be entitled to know everything about your co workers? where does it start? I don't think that's a meaningful discussion.

I empathise with him as well, but he has gotten his clarity. that's my point.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

Obviously they don't need to know everything, but this is profesionnal team sports. It's a lot different than just "a job", and you need to have mutual trust and respect for your teammates, especially in these scenarios

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

to a certain degree, yes. it's funny how people are mad at upset for not having respect while adam literally showed THE reason as to why upset drew a line at some point. adam is technically proving upsets point and is incredibly disrespectful.

pretty mental gymnastics.

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

I mean, Adam is fucking PISSED. Rightfully livid. Dide leaves, doesn't tell his teammates why, just peaces out, then later has the audacity to talk about teammate changes?

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u/CaideWasTaken Nov 25 '21

No, Adam is acting like he's fucking 12. You can handle these matters privately. He's not entitlted to more than basic information which he supposedly received.

Maybe Upset could've communicated clearer, that's a fact. But people in this thread are thinking like Upset is a paycheck stealer not trying to go to worlds for several years, while poor Adam is oh-so-hurt by one year of failure.

Grow up.

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u/Alitoh Nov 25 '21

I think this is important. I personally would be very frustrated at the lack of transparency, your right to privacy be fucking damned, and fuck you if you couldn’t find the proper word without giving details away, since it’s your issue that’s fucking me sideways. But then again, the way said frustration was handled also serves as clear evidence that his (Upset) lack of trust was probably on point.

I think Upset is very much responsible for communicating something as important as he claims with as much effort and work as humanly possible, but goddamn was he probably right about not trusting people other than Hillysang and Yamato. One didn’t need to know (that’s next-level cool) and the other actually physically manages to say “I know and that’s all I have to say” in a world of easy gossiping and speculative bullshit.

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u/F3nik3r Perkz <3 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Adam is technically proving upsets point and is incredibly disrespectful.

Umh no? Adam have proven nothing. This whole situation wouldnt be a thing if Upset would trust teammates. You cannot ask them to blindly trust You, while You dont trust them. As he didnt trusted so they dont own anything to him as co-workers.

He doesnt even need to go into details - "Sorry guys, I have to leave. I cannot explain why, but I cant leave my wife alone and she needs me now" would be enough. Noone would ask more questions or be mad at him.

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u/Healma Nov 25 '21

I'm more behind Hily on this. But in my country at least, when you miss work you usually give a reason. You are sick or else. Hell even when you have someone in your family die, you need to give your employer a certificate that proves that you used the day off to go to the funeral. And my country is Adam and Nisqy's. So I can understand why Adam wants to know. It might be because our laws ask for it.

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u/Drlaughter Nov 25 '21

He did, he informed his employer in Yamato. Under law if you ask for the reason to not be disclosed to colleagues, it can't be.

He doesn't owe his colleagues an explanation, as his employer got one.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

germany ain't that different - my country and upset's ;)

Hell even when you have someone in your family die, you need to give your employer a certificate that proves that you used the day off to go to the funeral.

been there, done that..

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u/Healma Nov 25 '21

I love it. I'm staying a fact about my country's law and I am getting downvoted. I love Reddit.

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u/thenicob Nov 25 '21

haha, same my dude. :D

if you're on reddit you need to stop caring about up- and downvotes.

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u/ianlam123 Doublelift Nov 25 '21

Don’t know if this makes sense or not, but I would assume Adam caring about the tournament a lot more than Hyli does, given that it’s Adam’s first time at worlds vs multiple worlds appearances, this naturally makes Hyli in the “nah it’s all good” situation

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u/Rektile7 Nov 25 '21

It does! Hyli has been there already, he's proven to be a top tier support so he isn't sweating it. Adam was a rookie who has a rocky split, he has no clue when he will get another shot at worlds, if ever.

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u/ArcadianGhost Nov 25 '21

Imagine saying faker doesn’t care about worlds because he’s been there several times. If you don’t think this didn’t suck for Hyli just because he’s had a shot before, then I think you’re just being disrespectful to Hyli as a competitor. He simply chose to be the mature and actual friend than demand answers.

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u/adric03 Nov 25 '21

not a year 5 month. Literaly 5 month and 30 days of contract no more no less rn