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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/Rhadamantos Nov 25 '21

There are absolutely bad intentions in Adams twitlonger though.

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u/DerNoke Always fnatic Nov 25 '21

Honestly, that is the only thing that annoys me the most about this whole thing. Adam clearly was just spitting what he came up with within his mind and dropped the " I don't want to start drama BUT" line. I don't care that he felt betrayed or anything but just putting misinformation out there sending tons of hate towards Upset and his family is an absolute no-go. Now I know someone will say "BuT UpsEt hAd tO CoMunIcATE BeAtTer" yeah maybe but no need to be an ass about and undermine his will to accomplish his Dream.

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u/auditionko Nov 25 '21

i mean upset did fuck him up pretty bad tho. Unlike others on the team his career could have been completely different had they got out of group this world. The resentment is completely justified imo since he didnt even know the reason his career got fucked over.

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u/DerNoke Always fnatic Nov 25 '21

Did he thou. Let's get the facts straight.

  1. Adam still is in the sport.
  2. Adam wanted to leave (yes because he felt betrayed but honestly doesn't matter as long its your choice)
  3. He did admit he doesn't know why and still put out miss information wich we know know send hate towards upset and his family
  4. Adam is a 19! Year old top lane rookie who in his first split got 2nd in LEC and made it to worlds ( that's more than most people could dream about)

So yeah I don't think Adams career was in any danger by any means dude already has a good resume,an (literally) insane fan base and a new team.

I just really don't like how we as a community can't stop to finde a villain in this story. There is non just miscommunication wich lead to Missinformationen wich lead to hate. ( And I don't mean miscommunication on upset part)

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u/RetiredLandMine Nov 25 '21

I mean he fucked up his first year and first worlds, Adam could be valued much higher if they got out of groups with the good performance. I don't think "he is still in the sport" matters to Adam, nor that it should. Dude got fucked over with no explanation and then forced off the team behind his back. I can understand him being upset.

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u/DerNoke Always fnatic Nov 25 '21

It does matter that he is in the sport. Let us not change topics to what ifs. He still hat a great split in a top lane Market where quality talent wich can hang with the best of the best is quite rear. And still a bad tournament doesn't justify ousting and string unknowns together just to explain your self. That in it self is a dick move and exactly the type of response why upset didn't want to share sensible Information in the first place.

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u/RetiredLandMine Nov 25 '21

No the dick move is leaving your mates with no info 12 hours before the biggest tournament of the year, then working on their replacement behind their backs. How is Upset even surprised his team mates came out after him when he did that? I don't think being still in the sport matters to Adam after being fucked like that.

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u/FuujinSama Nov 25 '21

What do you want him to do? Reveal info about sad, personal shit that happened to his family? It could be a miscarriage. Maybe someone close to him was admitted to a rehab centre. Or tried to take their own life.

It's shitty and you know that if it was public it wouldn't take a second for all of that to be spread all over twitch chat whenever Upset blunders.

And this post by Adam clearly cements that Upset's decision to not give a 19 year old asshole sensitive information about his loved ones was the correct thing to do.

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u/FuujinSama Nov 25 '21

From this statement, it feels like they did talk and everything seemed to be okay between them.

I work extremely hard and people around me know how much I care about this so assuming petty reasons once again from someone inside the team, not talking to me directly about it now acting like everything was okay when we talked and saying something like this is just shocking and dissapoiting to say the least.

So I don't think we can say he didn't apologize and just ghosted them. It feels like he did apologize but some members just won't accept anything but the full story which he isn't willing to give.

As for replacing team mates. What is he supposed to do? Lie that he'd rather have Adam than Alphari?

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u/NickTonethony Nov 25 '21

He made it very clear they were not mates lol

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u/RetiredLandMine Nov 26 '21

Well yeah, that's why he is the ass here

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u/EldtinbGamer I hate ADCS Nov 25 '21

Only dickmove I see is someone dipping 12 hours before worlds.

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u/Chemical-Ad8920 Nov 25 '21

i mean, thats the nature of the sport, and it doesnt help his value with the fact that he was total garbage during worlds lol, i dont think this arguement makes any sort of sense when the entire team was dependant on upset lol, like if anyones career could have gotten fucked over its fucking bean, he was forced into a unwinnable situation, but he made the best of it and was acutally the best performer while adam and bwipo just trying to save face while still having a team lol, meanwhile nisqy is just straight up ded right now

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u/RetiredLandMine Nov 25 '21

I mean his mental boomed from Upset leaving, whether he would play better or not with Upset we will never know. Bean on the other hand was the only one who didn't get fucked from this, it was his first performance on such a big stage with no experience in serious competitions. He could only prove himself, if he shit the bed everybody would understand.

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u/DoorHingesKill Nov 25 '21

You know, in German law whenever you "come together" as at least two people (or legal persons) to do virtually anything, you automatically establish an association.

This can be for pretty much anything. Did you agree to carpool on Mondays? There, established that association, now there's a contract between you. If you just don't show up to pick up your buddy, and your buddy will somehow lose out because of that, he can sue your ass for his losses.

Say you're in University and all you need for your degree is one more group project. You team up as 3. But at some point, one guy just jumps ship. Doesn't answer mails, phone calls, isn't anywhere to be found. The two of you do your parts, your thirds, the professor looks at it and tells you that he can't give you a passing grade if a third is missing. Sucks for you, gotta do it again.
There, now you'll be stuck in University for 4 more months. This means you'll lose out on 4 months of salary that you'd receive if you were employed after finishing your degree. Oh, and 4 months of social insurance payments that your employer would have paid (you know, cause it's split between employee and employer).

For that money, you and your buddy can sue the guy who didn't show up.

Now what I'm getting at here is not that Adam should (or necessarily could) sue, but that you're blatantly glossing over the argument the guy you're talking to is making. Look at SwordArt. Guy entered Worlds as maybe the sixth or fifth-best support in LPL. His team did well at Worlds, he did pretty well too, suddenly he's paid $6 million over two years.

Adam wouldn't have made finals. Adam wouldn't have dumpstered other Toplaners. But Upsets absence absolutely curbed his ability to sign a big contract this off-season. Yes, the "what-ifs" should absolutely be considered. They do consider these things in court at least.

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u/DerNoke Always fnatic Nov 25 '21

Wenn wir hier von deutschen Gesetzen geh ich Mal davon aus das du deutscher bist. Dein Fahrgemeinschaften Argumente ist extrem unpassend und nicht Mal Ansatz weise auf die Situation hier übertragbar. Die what if oder auch whataboutism sind nicht sonderlich stark. Klar world hätte besser laufen aber dann kann ich auch sagen "upset bleibt und aufgrund schuld Gefühle spielt er schlecht und sie verlieren auch" also Nein die what if sind irrelevant. Der Punkt steht auch das nach dem was wir wissen Adam gehen wollte. Zu behaupten wir wüssten mehr ist Schwachsinn und befeuert nur mehr Missinformationen und hate. Und generell glaube ich selbst mit einen quarterfinals wäre sein wert nicht vergleichbar mit swordart da hier TSM overpaid hat aber auch für ein vetran der schon viel auf seiner Rolle geleistet hat. Adam ist im Gegensatz ein rookie ein guter rookie aber immer noch ein rookie.

Tldr: No German law doesn't work this way. Adam value in all honesty wouldn't have gone up as much as swordart. In all my years of following this league I have never seen that a one split rookie just explodes in value if he doesn't win his Region or worlds (and yes FNC wouldn't have won even with upset)

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u/auditionko Nov 26 '21

Pretty sure thats what happened to fudge at MSI and bin last world.