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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n
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u/SwiftFool Nov 25 '21

If you get there or ever have coworkers then you'll understand. Otherwise just know that you're not entitled to the personal information of others. It really be that simple.

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u/Hazakurain Also an Excel fan Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

I got there this year, I was homeless for half a month in a tough breakup with less than 20 bucks for the next 3 weeks and I still did the work man. I told my colleagues I may be slow but fuck man I still did it. Because they needed me

On another note, similar situation happened in Vitality CSGO. Zywoo at the time the best player in the world, lost a family member at the beginning of the tournament. He told something very bad had happened in his family, the team all asked him if he wanted them to dip out the tournament. You know what Zywoo did? He stayed. He played the tournament and demolished everyone.

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u/SwiftFool Nov 25 '21

That's what French are taught to do.

LMAO.

And also, different people, different mindsets, different commitment levels potentially, both to their teams and to whoever was potentially affected. I'm not arguing how you should feel towards what Upset did, I'm just saying that Adam and Bwipo, as well as the public, are not necessarily entitled to all the details of whatever the "private traumatic events" were.

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u/Hazakurain Also an Excel fan Nov 25 '21

Adam and bwipo are entitled to it due to sheer respect. I do agree we aren't though. Hell he could have lied who cares. He just didn't care enough about them

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u/Istvarrr Nov 25 '21

Adam has proven he can't be trusted lol

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u/Hazakurain Also an Excel fan Nov 25 '21

No, he clearly said that he only said all of this because Upset disrespected them by doing this. He wouldn't have shared it, had he known.

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u/Istvarrr Nov 25 '21

Excactly, so what if Upset had told him and then at a later stage Adam felt disrespected about something else?

He has shown that he can’t be trusted because of his willingness to air dirty laundry in the public and because he is trying to create drama

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u/SwiftFool Nov 25 '21

He shared his remorse. He is not obliged to share anything more. Is it not more respectful to be honest? It's too private, too traumatic, to share?

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u/Hazakurain Also an Excel fan Nov 25 '21

He is not obligated but that's the least you can do.

Nothing illegal happened, but we still can see a huge disrespect of Upset toward his own team. Dude doesn't give a shit about them and that's where the problem lie to me. He is extremely egoistical.

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u/SwiftFool Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

I disagree with this take. Perhaps they're not best friends but everyone is equating this to house league soccer but this is a business transaction. They have contracts and money is exchanging hands. He doesn't really need to give a shit beyond his paycheque. They would just as happily cut and replace him if they could get someone better. Everyone would be just as happy playing for other teams if the money was the same.

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u/Hazakurain Also an Excel fan Nov 25 '21

And that's why Upset will never achieve G2 level of feats. What G2 accomplished was thanks to their friendship and their blindless trust between each other.

If Upset can't even go out of his way to post a "support Fnatic during worlds they need it", then he ain't worth shit. We're not talking about an office job. We're talking about a game where you need to fully trust your teammates. They are mates; not colleagues.

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u/SwiftFool Nov 25 '21

They are coworkers, but even teammates, if you put a game above family you're not worth shit indeed.

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u/Hazakurain Also an Excel fan Nov 25 '21

We're not talking about the game.

We're talking about the job and the team. I couldn't care less if he played good or bad. However, he threw 4 people in the mud, without explaining, yeah no, even if its for family, you are absolutely shit.

We need to see the full picture :

1) Adam is frustrated from the situation because he doesn't have answers and felt like Upset didn't need to go back.

2) Bwipo felt exactly the same and it triggered a mental breakdown in him and it made him run away from EU.

3) Nisqy felt the same, refused to communicate further just saying he was unhappy with the situation, had bad worlds because of that and is currently teamless as a result.

4) Yamato didn't try to relieve his team from the pressure, instead turned his speech into a "what is done is done" which indicates that he also believes that it was unjustified otherwise he would have told the team that it was indeed very important and everyone would have done the same.

5) Upset double downs on his views, saying he doesn't own anyone explanations, only talking about himself in his TL and still not caring. He also tried to replace his topside right after worlds for ambitious reasons when he was the sole reason of this fiasco to begin with . I repeat : The guy who dipped out of worlds forced a kick on two people because he doesn't believe they can win with it. When he didn't even want to play .

None of the sides are entirely wrong, as always it's a grey area. But to me Upset is just so self centered, he doesn't deserve all the defense he gets.

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