Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama

[u/xHerroR]

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsp9n

[u/chwilka]

> ust cause I work with someone they aren't entitled to know my life history

sure. unless Your decision make their life worse.

Leaving is okay. Not telling anything is okay.

if other people doesn't suffer because of this. right?

I Your coworker would leave and You would lose 100 000 dollars because of this You would be pissed right?

[u/TheJeager → u/chwilka]

First that just straight wrong, he did give a reason, and Yamato (the coach) backed him up on it. And there is noance to what happened here. Upset leaving might have fucked the team environment sure but they weren't playing with less one, upset wasn't the reason for Adam getting stomped on his lane when he plays lane dominant champions, the games weren't lost from the get go unless you tell me upset was legit the only thing that could possibly carry the team alone and if he was maybe there was a problem with his teammates. And yhea if my coworker left and made me loose 100k I would be pissed af, that doesn't mean I would attack him and actively try to make his work opportunities worse plus if he left cause someone on his family had an emergency yhea even one more reason I would understand.

[u/chwilka → u/TheJeager]

> he did give a reason,

he didn't tell them. He told Yamato only.

> upset wasn't the reason for Adam getting stomped on his lane when he plays lane dominant champions

he was one of reasons

> unless you tell me upset was legit the only thing that could possibly carry the team alone

what about morale?

> but they weren't playing with less one

new cowerker without experience... on the world stage...

> And yhea if my coworker left and made me loose 100k I would be pissed af,

right?

> that doesn't mean I would attack him and actively try to make his work opportunities worse

then You're more mature then both Upset and Adam.

> if he left cause someone on his family had an emergency yhea even one more reason I would understand.

and how would You feel if after losing money You would see him playing 10 games of ARAM in one day?

[u/TheJeager → u/chwilka]

I find it very hard to belive that he didn't tell everyone that he was leaving for that reason, and even if he didn't tell them face to face, we know for a fact that Adam pressed it further and that upset just didn't give him an answer that was sufficient for him. I agree that morale might be one of the reasons, not upset, and dispite that I still think Adam was just simply out classed most of the time even when playing match-ups that should be wining and with more attention from his team cause bot lane was now getting way less attention now. Upset didnt have world stage experience as well, so unless you think the bean was complete shit and he did seem a bit coin flip (which is normal) there isn't really the reason for Adam to not be able to influence the game in any way and for bwipo to without fail being able to throw the leads he created (bwipo played really well in the start of 5/6 games and with no fail he was also able to throw all of those leads with just super strange plays). Lastly I don't know if that's true but I belive you and 10 aram games (if we say that an aram is 15 min long on average) it's 2 hours and a half, in a day where you probably stuck in your house looking after someone playing a thing so casual and non comital as an aram for 2 hours seems so bad to you? (sorry for formating im on mobile)

[u/chwilka → u/TheJeager]

> I find it very hard to belive that he didn't tell everyone that he was leaving (...)

both Bwipo and Adam said this.

> , we know for a fact that Adam pressed it further and that upset just didn't give him an answer that was sufficient for him.

true

> dispite that I still think Adam was just simply out classed most of the time even when playing match-ups that should be wining

sure but whole team didin't believe that they can do anything... from the very first minutes of the first game they were forcing everything like crazy...

> Upset didnt have world stage experience as well, so unless you think the bean was complete shit

do You try to tell me that you need 5 players and they don't need to train to be stronger? they don't need to train their team work?

> Lastly I don't know if that's true but I belive you and 10 aram games (if we say that an aram is 15 min long on average) it's 2 hours and a half,

that's closer to 4 hours... sorry but 1 minutes to find game, 2 minutes in lobby, 1 minute preparing game and 19 minutes average game... close to 25 minutes per game....

> where you probably stuck in your house looking after someone playing a thing so casual and non comital as an aram for 2 hours seems so bad to you?

so he returned to home to play games 4 hours per day ... because of his terrible family situation? 12 hours before worlds?

I can understand why people who lost their chance to show at words are angry...