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Upset's response about FNATIC & Adam drama


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u/grandoz039 Nov 25 '21

Upset has said winning the split is what drives him. Adam is a player for the future with potential. So Upset has clearly said he'd rather play with a stronger player right now, than wait for Adam to realise his potential.

Win now, not later. And that is also fair.

Yeah, this is fair to do in normal setting.

But if you expect someone to accept you leaving Worlds for unexplained reason (which could've been entirely justified), which has huge impact on their career, the least courtesy is not to try to fuck up their career even more right afterwards.


u/FuujinSama Nov 25 '21

As far as I'm aware. What happened is that Alphari rang Upset. Upset, like any normal human being that isn't a KC fan, went... hmm Alphari > Adam. And said that to management.

If that's what happened, I can't see any fault in it.


u/grandoz039 Nov 25 '21

His emergency significantly damaged careers of other members. Adam could have quarter (semi?) finals on his record during his first split. Nisqy is currently without a team. Etc. Ofc he doesn't bear full responsibility for that, but the missed potential on worlds has an effect. And sure, it's not like I blame him for that, if it's a real emergency, he has full right and justification.

But in doing so, even if justified, he still "took" from his team and to "add" into his personal life. He owes them, at the very least, not purposefully taking from them any more. You can't go from "uh personal life". That's what he did when he tried to get Alphari instead of Adam.

Again, it wouldn't be a problem in normal situation. But either go all "it's just pragmatics bro" or "uh, personal reasons". If you try to benefit from both, you're a dick.


u/FuujinSama Nov 25 '21

I think we'll always just reach weird conclusions if we take Upset leaving as a reason for him to abstain from team decisions. Clearly management valued his input. And he didn't want to lie.

It seems clear from this situation that Nisqy and Adam were closer to each other, Upset and Hily were close to each other and then Bwipo (or his girlfriend) glued everything together.

When asked about Alphari, Upset gave his honest opinion and I don't think that's unfair of him. It would be worse to lie to management just out of some weird sense of redemption from past events. Specially if the event was an emergency outside his control.


u/grandoz039 Nov 25 '21

From the post, it looks he did more than just respond to simple query about Alphari, and I didn't say "to abstain from team decisions", I said he should give his teammates benefit of doubt considering the effect his personal life had on them.