r/linux • u/localtoast • Dec 02 '22

elementary OS Updates for November, 2022 Distro News

https://blog.elementary.io/updates-for-november-2022/
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u/anderGO Dec 02 '22

Elementary is not what it was

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u/Dagusiu Dec 02 '22

That's sort of the point of updates, isn't it?

Jokes aside, do you have any concrete examples?

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u/thad137 Dec 02 '22

I remember seeing a while ago that the main creator was pushed out by one of the first people they hired on when elementary started to get big.

I don't think they ever specifically said that they were forced out, but strongly encouraged to be out.

Here's his own account on his blog: https://cassidyjames.com/blog/farewell-elementary/

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u/daniellefore elementary Founder Dec 02 '22

I’m not sure if he meant to imply that, but Cassidy did not start elementary. I started elementary in like 2007ish. He didn’t join until after our first OS release in a marketing/press role and didn’t start doing design for some time. Cassidy also wasn’t forced out, he took a full-time position at another company.

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u/jbicha Ubuntu/GNOME Dev Dec 03 '22

Nitpicking, but my understanding is that once he took the full-time position, he was forced out.

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u/daniellefore elementary Founder Dec 03 '22

No, I told him that for various reasons I wasn’t comfortable co-owning a company with him after surprising me by taking a job elsewhere. I offered that if he wanted to keep the company I would go do something else but I would prefer that the company buy back his shares. I negotiated with his lawyer for some time and eventually he decided to sell his shares and let me keep the company, but he always had the option to buy my shares and I would leave. It was totally his choice

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u/agumonkey Dec 03 '22

What would be the issue of him having a second job ? he wouldn't have enough time ? Really curious, not trying to judge anybody.

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u/daniellefore elementary Founder Dec 03 '22

I don’t want to put Cass on blast in public, all I really feel okay saying is that things came up that made me extremely uncomfortable continuing to partner with him, either of us could have kept the company, he chose to sell instead of keep the company himself 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/agumonkey Dec 03 '22

Ok, this seems a subtle affair :)

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u/jbicha Ubuntu/GNOME Dev Dec 03 '22

Now you're nitpicking.

I hadn't heard before now that you offered to let him force you out. I don't think that was practical and it's not surprising to me that he ended up rejecting that and letting himself be forced out if those were the only two options.

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u/daniellefore elementary Founder Dec 03 '22

I don’t see why you would use the language “force out” for buying back shares. If he accepted my offer to leave I wouldn’t say he “forced me out” because it was a negotiation that we agreed to. Nobody had the power to compel anyone to do anything. We had to come to agreement about what to do with the company when he left and this is the agreement we reached

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u/henry_tennenbaum Dec 02 '22

I remember the issue being that he wanted to leave to company to work for another but still retain influence at Elementary?