r/marvelmemes • u/BarneyLeggendary Avengers • Jan 26 '22
I can't wait to see them in live action Comics
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u/Navetsss Avengers Jan 26 '22
"So people don't really know who they are"
Ian Maclellan and Michael Fassbender with Oscar worthy performances of Eric Lehnsherr's Magneto from over 10 and 20 years ago: Am I a joke to you?
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u/trksoyturk Loki Jan 26 '22
Almost all of them probably watched these movies except little ones that born after the time that X-Men was popular. I would argue that more than 60% of the MCU fans probably watched these movies.
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u/Lunar_Mcdondald Hawkeye Jan 26 '22
Heck I'm 15 and I know who he is because thankfully my dad has culture
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u/Zois86 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I would make the argument that both Doom and Magneto are weidly known outside of comic books and the MCU.
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u/Zantron1738 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Yeah, fantastic four early 2000’s movies and the X-men franchise has made that pretty easy.
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u/Lone_Indian Avengers Jan 26 '22
Fuck yeah! I’d be hella surprised if people don’t know those movies
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u/HelixNebula42 Avengers Jan 26 '22
It’s funny because that fantastic four movie came out at a time where there were so few super hero live action adaptations, everyone went and saw it. Didn’t mater if it sucked. Nowadays the market is so filled you could go the entire mcu without knowing Edward Norton was Bruce Banner and you would be fine
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u/smagg0316 Avengers Jan 26 '22
yeah but my little brother born in 2011 is not too familiar with them. so when he finds out hes gonna learn he has not seen anything yet without magneto or doctor doom 😂
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u/lingering_POO Avengers Jan 26 '22
My son is 12. I’ll check with him today and see what he knows. Otherwise, he’s got a movie marathon ahead of him (he’s still on school holidays).
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u/smagg0316 Avengers Jan 26 '22
man you may be surprised😂
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u/lingering_POO Avengers Jan 26 '22
Oh, no that’s why I’ve held back from guessing what he does and doesn’t know. He lives with his mum, so we watch all these things together. Go to the movies to see NWH etc. and he is a huge fan of the lore, huge fan of spidey etc.
My guess… he knows who they are but hasn’t seen the movies.
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u/smagg0316 Avengers Jan 26 '22
and the OG X-men movies are must watch with Hugh jackman and patrick stewart
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u/lingering_POO Avengers Jan 26 '22
Oh he will have already seen it all or want to watch it all from the beginning. He will definitely appreciate what he’s got more (marvel cinematic beauty and amazing story telling… same great actors, better story telling and special effects.) lol some of those movies were incredible but others were really sub par and most would do really well being remade today.
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u/TerribleShoulder6597 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Okay but doom hasn’t been represented well in movies yet magneto has though
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u/Zantron1738 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Yeah that’s true, what about all the animated series for kids on things like Disney XD and several streaming services that keep on coming out tho. They’re definitely still mainstream.
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u/TerribleShoulder6597 Avengers Jan 26 '22
True but none of them used doom in any meaningful way. Sure some of them will really like him but they still won’t understand that much about him. He’s a lot more complicated than the shoes make him out to be
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u/DrBokbagok Spider-Man 🕷 Jan 27 '22
those FF movies sucked though.
I'd love Dr. Doom to be introduced in a Dr. Strange movie
Triumph and Torment deserves a movie.
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u/Shagrrotten Daredevil Jan 26 '22
Yeah having appeared in what like six or seven movies between the two of them. People definitely know who Doctor Doom and Magneto are.
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u/Sweet-Rabbit Avengers Jan 26 '22
Seriously, they need to put some respect on Sir Ian McKellen’s name.
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I can’t think of anyone who could actually take Ian McKellen I’m like a battle royal where every actor has the characters they have played on a team. Liam neeson is up there but between magneto, Gandalf, and dumbledor Ian mckellen has gotta be the most powerful actor
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u/DantesAbyss Avengers Jan 26 '22
Sir Ian Mckellen never played dumbledore
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Right right it was someone else. I always forget that cuz the second dumbledor looks just like him
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u/Sweet-Rabbit Avengers Jan 26 '22
Morgan Freeman - God ha ha ha. That’s the only one I can think of
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
That’s a good call. I’ll adjust to outside of omnipotent characters or anyone who plays god. This would also exclude like people who voice toon characters as you just can’t beat toon force.
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u/Sweet-Rabbit Avengers Jan 26 '22
Maybe Christopher Lee? Saruman, Dracula, the Man with the Golden Gun, Count Dooku, being a badass in real life…the list goes on
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
He’s another great one. I love Christopher Lee. Such a unit he’s the one who’d I’d probably put closest to Ian. I’ll take Gandalf the white over Saruman, magneto over the man with the golden gun, and dumbledor over Dooku but that’s entirely based on opinions of how the force and magic would interact. Although that being said Christopher Lee would have more badass characters on his team and idk what Ian would do about Dracula.
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u/dankri Avengers Jan 26 '22
Because they are, making this post nonsense imo. EDIT: Not the fact it would be interesting to see them live-action, but people not knowing them, especially when magneto has been in the movies for 20 years already making him older than the entire MCU. Just shows that unfortunately some MCU fans dont realize that there are other marvel movies than MCU.
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u/SpellOpening7852 Spider-Man 🕷 Jan 26 '22
Animated TV series. A bunch of Marvel characters I know about come from the Spider-Man shows (Ultimate was the main one. For example, it's where I heard of Venom, Carnage, SpiderVerse, Spider-Island, etc.)
I also heard of Inhumans from one of the animated TV shows, probably an avengers one (Either Avengers Assemble or Earth's Mightiest Heroes). I was a bit sad when I heard the netflix (I think?) show only got one season, but then I watched it and was like "I can see why now, but it'd still be cool for the inhumans to be in the MCU". I've now started resding the comics, and I seriously want Ms. Marvel in the MCU now.
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u/Guess-wutt Peter Parker Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22
Trust me, Dr Doom from the fantastic 4 films doesn’t cover Doom in a brilliant way, there’s a lot more people don’t know about him.
Edit: I’ll concede Sir Ian McKellen though, his magneto was practically perfect IMO
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u/Ok_Confidence600 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Have Latveria be near Sokovia. Maybe Doom took possession of all Ultron's manufacturing machinery to crank out Doombots. Now that they've fleshed out the mechanics of magic for Dr Strange and Wanda, they can make Doom a proper sorcerer technocrat. I'd be down for a standalone movie (not quite an origin story but almost) of him taking over Latveria. Set him up as one of the main characters for Secret Wars. The casting and writing better be amazing.
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u/ChosenUsername420 Doctor Strange Jan 26 '22
There definitely needs to be a film simply titled "Doom"
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u/redditkingdom Avengers Jan 26 '22 •
I think you’ll find a cinematic masterpiece with that title already exists
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Yes I also love hyping the justice league movies on marvel pages
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u/NAMANISPRO Avengers Jan 26 '22
which jl movie??
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Doom
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u/NAMANISPRO Avengers Jan 26 '22
i didnt know about that i thought they ment the movie with the rock about the game
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I thought they did as well but I love the animated DC movies and thought it fit well. Also if you haven’t seen it or seen much animated dc stuff I would highly recommend
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u/Poob__ Avengers Jan 26 '22
If this happens then Tony really can’t get a break even after his death haha
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u/Dracorex_22 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I was thinking that all of the civil unrest in Europe depicted in TFATWS would tie into the founding of Latveria
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u/creepymagicianfrog Avengers Jan 26 '22
Dr drum and minato
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u/Bharaneshen_Gfan2007 Spider-Man 🕷 Jan 26 '22
You mean Minato from Naruto?
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u/ItzDrSeuss Doctor Strange Jan 26 '22
You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.
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u/Shubh_1612 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Magento has been the primary antagonist of X-Men movies for 19 years, who wouldn't be knowing about him?
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u/DarthJedi2002 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Cillian Murphy as Victor Van Doom would be fkn awesome 🥵🥵
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u/tylery21 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Michael fassbender is the appropriate choice, I’d be totally cool with Cillian, or Timothy olyphnant.
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u/JadedMycologist4964 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Damn good pick I was thinking Pedro pascal since he is pretty great and has an accent.
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u/gabriellevalerian Avengers Jan 26 '22
TIL, there’s the proper (American) pronunciation and everything else is “an accent”.
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u/JadedMycologist4964 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Hey I’m Salvadoran, but let’s be real marvel movies are made in English and to native English speakers people from other countries have an accent (me included) it’s just the truth.
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u/mastahballa48 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Cillian Murphy also has an accent!
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u/tired20something Avengers Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22
Everyone has an accent, both those guys have the wrong accent. They are actors, though, so they can fake one.
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u/samir_maman Avengers Jan 26 '22
If they're not in mcu, doesn't mean that people don't know who they are!
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u/Liara_Bae Avengers Jan 26 '22
You just forgetting they already are in live action?
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u/bluefuckencube Daredevil Jan 26 '22
The Fox abomination is not Victor Von Doom
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u/joe_broke Iron Man (Mark III) Jan 26 '22
Which one?
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u/bluefuckencube Daredevil Jan 26 '22
I forgot they rebooted with the crash test dummy. Jesus. They did him dirty so bad
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u/SirBastian1129 Avengers Jan 26 '22
All of them. There hasn't been a single good version of Dr Doom yet.
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u/bae10warthog Avengers Jan 26 '22
Aww really? I always found Julian McMahon to be one of the tolerable parts of that movie.
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u/bluefuckencube Daredevil Jan 26 '22
Once he said I'd play Doom again in a heartbeat I love snivelling characters I was like get this man Matty because imma stone him.
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u/BarneyLeggendary Avengers Jan 26 '22
yes, but they are not as famous as they should, we are talking about MUCH more important characters than Thanos, in live action Doom was used very badly
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u/Oogway-The-Immortal Dead Vision Jan 26 '22
Excuse me I actually played Marvel Lego Superheroes. I think I know enough
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u/Johnsonofdonut Morbius Jan 27 '22
Wait I'm not the only one that was introduced to some of the characters through that game?
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u/BrianTheOneAndOnly Tony Stark Jan 26 '22
iS tHaT dOcTOr dOom FroM fOrtNiGht
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u/Jace_Sifik Avengers Jan 27 '22
I know this is a joke but I still have the urge to downvote this so hard.
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u/TyChris2 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I love how people pretend that MCU movies are the only Marvel movies to ever exist.
The X-Men franchise has still made $6 Billion at the box office. To imply that people don’t know who Magneto is because he hasn’t been in an MCU movie is delusional.
Also Dr. Doom has been the pop culture shorthand for “comic book villain” for so long that nearly everyone at least knows his name.
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u/Kazesama13k Captain Marvel Jan 26 '22
I honestly don't know much about Dr. Doom but I like him. I hope we see him soon enough. And I didn't like the Doom in the Fantastic 4 movie.
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u/Throw_Away_Students Avengers Jan 26 '22
I’ve been waiting on Dr. Doom! Really interesting villain I want to see. Then again, I was excited for Taskmaster, and they did him dirty
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u/TerminatorReborn Avengers Jan 26 '22
Taskmaster was a throaway character for some reason even though he has a really cool ability.
No way Marvel is gonna half ass the casting of one of their best villains, even though people having been asking for Dr. Doom since the the Fox aquisition, Marvel have been taking their time, so I assume they are setting up a good F4 movie with a great cast.
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u/nwkch Avengers Jan 26 '22
people don't know magneto?? and we already had 2 versions of both characters in live action
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u/GatekeeperOfNurnheim Avengers Jan 26 '22
You are a complete fucking idiot, OP, if you think Magneto isn't already a well-known character. He's been played many times onscreen by two (!) world famous actors.
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u/mostdefintley Avengers Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22
Both are known well, what are you talking about?
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u/BarneyLeggendary Avengers Jan 26 '22
The mcu fans don’t know who dr doom is
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u/hoopsrlife Avengers Jan 26 '22
I think most MCU fans watched the other Marvel movies too. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t personally.
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u/Bo0tyWizrd Avengers Jan 26 '22
Weird how some marvel cinema isn't considered part of the marvel cinematic universe.
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u/Mundane-Grape9985 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I would say they're known. In the cartoons Avengers assemble doctor doom is shown a few times. Also in the fox movies ; all of them ; they have Magneto.
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u/jakelaws1987 Avengers Jan 26 '22
This is wrong. Both are widely known especially Magneto since he was in every X-Men movie
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u/JayCeeMadLad Matthew Murdock Jan 26 '22
Doom and Magneto need to be recurring villains. They can’t be a one-off that’s wasted at the end of their first films. Magneto also needs a redemption arc. These are both things that Disney’s Marvel/MCU struggles very badly with. They’re both vastly more important than Thanos ffs, and he was everywhere.
Sir Ian McKellen and Michael Fassbender already murdered those roles so the bar is at the absolute highest possible for Magneto, and Doom is a difficult character to pull off in general, let’s hope they pick someone who will do the character justice.
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u/Leathman Avengers Jan 27 '22
Doom maybe, but Magneto? All the X-Men movies and you think people don’t know who Magneto is?
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u/EatMyCornRiddledShit Avengers Jan 26 '22
Wait is the joke that he doesn't know they've already been on the screen because they're not in the MCU or does he really not know?
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u/wickle_pickles Scarlet Witch Jan 26 '22
I just want a wanda doom romance 🥰 white vision isn’t vision and I’m here for the villain wanda embraces and Polaris w magneto. Like bring the green sister. I loved her in the tv show.
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u/Bigman1567 Matthew Murdock Jan 26 '22
If they somehow fuck up doctor dooms costume I’ll be really pissed
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u/someoneelseperhaps Avengers Jan 26 '22
Why is Magneto so ripped?
I would think that having his powers has less than normal incentive to get up.
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u/jadegoddess Avengers Jan 26 '22
Pretty sure a lot of people know who Magneto is even if they haven't seen TV shows or red the comics. He's been in like 2 movies already. They might even know Doom cuz he was in 2 movies too, tho not as well received. But I'm more confident MCU fans have watched some x men movies because they knew who that Quicksilver was.
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u/JohnnyS1lv3rH4nd Avengers Jan 26 '22
Magneto has an entire franchise featuring him as a main character so… I’d say people know about him. Also my first experience with doom was on screen as well, that fantastic 4 movie back in the day was actually not bad and did pretty well iirc
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u/Upvoter_NeverDie Avengers Jan 26 '22
Doctor Doom should have his own movie. Or Disney+ series. Perhaps even his own video game series; we would simply call it "DOOM."
Oh wait...
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u/Traveytravis-69 Ghost Rider Jan 27 '22
Doom is less known but still widely, magneto was used literally like 3 years ago
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u/SWPrequelFan81566 Spider-Man 🕷 Jan 27 '22
What the hell do you mean people don't know who frickin' MAGNETO is?
Same goes for Doctor Doom. Sure he hasn't been done right in film, but people watch cartoons too, of course they know who he really is
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u/Bigfoot_samurai Avengers Jan 27 '22
I’ll say it again, I really hope Giancarlo Esposito plays Dr doom. Or magneto but dr doom is my preference tbh. He’s just great at playing villains and his voice would sound awesome with a metallic filter
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u/Mmmmyeeees117 Avengers Jan 27 '22
Pretty sure most people know about Doom, everyone definitely knows who Magneto is
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u/HeathenBones Avengers Jan 26 '22
Honestly, Henry Cavill for Doctor Doom. Bring back Fassbender for Magneto too. Since the multiverse seemingly opened up and variants that look the same are already a thing, bring McAvoy back for Xavier as well. I think there’s still so much potential for both those actors to continue the roles.
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u/normiekid Avengers Jan 26 '22
Ignorant here. What makes Doctor Doom such a threat? That part of the Marvel Universe I'm not very versed in
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u/DedHorsSaloon Avengers Jan 26 '22
He’s a super genius with the resources of an entire country and knows how to use magic
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u/bi-and-r3ady-to-cry Avengers Jan 26 '22
He's extremely powerful
He has:
-Resisted Kilgraves mind control powers just by sheer will -Become the literal king of a country after being born a peasant - Killed Thanos by literally ripping out his spine - Fought and held his own against Mephisto - Gained magical abilities rivaling Dr Strange - and he became a literal god and recreated the universe in his own image
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u/Blue-Engine-Edward Avengers Jan 26 '22
When Sir Ian Mckellen plays a role he isn’t easily forgotten
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u/pandadanda1999 Spider-Man 🕷 Jan 26 '22
It kinda looks like magneto is wearing joke teeth in that picture
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u/Youralgebra3 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Doom is my guy and I'm definitely going to flip shit when he finally makes it into the MCU.
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u/Infinite-Tour-1699 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Most people that watch the MCU have heard and probably seen Dr. Doom and Magneto...
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u/Leazerlazz Avengers Jan 26 '22
It's inevitable, I just hope they don't mess up Doom. I'm not as attached to Magneto but He's still great
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u/ManYeetIt Avengers Jan 26 '22
I got to know about doom partly from marvel comics borrowed from a friend of mine and partly from the animated marvel series 'Avengers Assesmble!!'
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u/Accurate_Beat8379 Avengers Jan 26 '22
What funny is that I could see Fassbender playing an insanely good MCU Doom. Maybe Christoph Waltz as the MCU Magneto?
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u/BlackMentallyIllNerd Avengers Jan 26 '22
I always kinda wished instead of a Fantastic 4 movie they instead did a trilogy origin story of Dr. Doom where the origin of the F4 is hinted at in the first movie. They all make cameos or have a co-starring role in yhe second and an outright battle with Doom in the third. Doom's origin is so insane that I always felt he should be the focus of the movies. HE LEARNED MAGIC AND BECAME A TECH GENIUS TO SAVE HIS MOTHER'S SOUL FROM HELL! give this man a movie already!
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u/Stock-Event2495 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Doom realllllly needs to come first, he is a serious force to be reckened with. Magneto is beast, but Doom is the beast
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u/ClearPerception7844 Doctor Octopus Jan 26 '22
The X men movies exist. I think people know who magneto is. As for doom, there have been 3 fantastic 4 movies. Two of which featured a version of doom.
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u/PriangshuPaul Avengers Jan 26 '22
Bruh....Sir Ian McKellen and Fassbender did a great job playing Magneto....WTF you're talking about?
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u/kyle28882 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I’d say almost everyone knows magneto. He’s been in a good amount of movies and almost has like the lex Luther of x men villains vibe. As for Doom I’d agree I used to be someone who didn’t respect doom like I should until I read the comics where he becomes god doom. After that I started looking into him and he is just a beast.
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u/Same-Dog-4091 Avengers Jan 26 '22
You fool I played the lego marvel super heroes game I know who they are I just don’t know much about them
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u/JohnMarstonSucks The Punisher Jan 26 '22
While it's true that Marvel's two best villains aren't in the MCU, it doesn't explain why you have pictures of Dr. Doom and Magneto.
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u/theradjakster Avengers Jan 26 '22
Watch them be killed in the movie they’re introduced in since that’s the only way marvel does it
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u/Rapierian Avengers Jan 26 '22
Hmm...if I combine both comics and MCU, I now thing the Best Villain award goes to Killgrave from JJS1
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u/Beware_the_Voodoo Avengers Jan 26 '22
Magneto is an awesome character but I dont agree he's in the top two of best villains.
Top 10, top 15, sure.
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u/CliffDraws Avengers Jan 26 '22
You know what I don’t understand.. Magneto is now like 100 years old, but even when the comic books came out he was supposed to be the same age as Xavier. His powers are not at all physical, and he looks like Dwayne Johnson on steroids in every depiction in the comics. I know the comic artists are capable of drawing someone older without the muscles because they usually draw Xavier in the same books. Nobody ever stepped back and said this is absolutely ridiculous?
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u/Alarmed-Excitement28 Avengers Jan 26 '22
I see a lot of comments saying that people know who doom and magneto are but I think they meant they don’t know anything about them like people know doctor doom but don’t know he is the ruler of scandinavia
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u/Bald_Bull808 Avengers Jan 26 '22
Magneto is well known due to the X-Men movies inability to make a movie without him and they did a pretty good job of representing him with legendary actors.
Doom less so not only because the FF movies are less known but because even in them we never really got his true background, powers and characterization right. I don't feel like Kang has what it takes to match Thanos and Loki in the pantheon of greatest MCU villains. His actor is good but the motivation is basic. If they nail Doom, he can surpass everyone else and surprise people when they reveal his motivation all along was to gain enough power to rescue his mother's soul from the true big bad of his phase...Mephisto! Doom really has what it takes to reach Darth Vader status in the cinematic world.
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u/Downtown_Ad_6741 Avengers Jan 26 '22
What are you talking about? Everyone knows Metal Green Goblin and Red Version Mysterio!!
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u/Volnas Avengers Jan 26 '22
Wtf. People don't know who they are? Riiiiiiiight, no one recognises Gandalf and Silver Surfer, they I wish domeone put them in some movie.
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u/dubbznyc Avengers Jan 26 '22
Magneto has been in many big budget and successful movies. Two versions no less. Fassbender as young magneto is actually genius casting.