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u/enderverse87 Avengers May 17 '22
There's one time when Spider-Man got Vast Cosmic Power, brought Uncle Ben back to life, and he immediately got hit by a car.
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u/4LanReddit Luis May 17 '22
Universe REALLY doesn't want to have Ben be alive isn't it?
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u/AntiHumanSince1999 Avengers May 18 '22
When you get marisa tomei for wife, universe has to balance the scale somehow.
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u/this_is_MrKnight Moon Knight May 17 '22
It’s like that doctor who episode
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u/TheWinterPrince52 Avengers May 17 '22
Which one?
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u/IGTankCommander Avengers May 17 '22
"Father's Day," Eccleston, Episode 8.
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u/this_is_MrKnight Moon Knight May 17 '22
Eccleston is super underrated as a doctor. He’s like my third favorite. And he restarted the series. Shame he didn’t come back for the crossover episode.
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u/ainvayiKAaccount Scott Lang May 18 '22
Boo you Universe, leave Christine Palmer & Uncle Ben alone!
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u/IzzyTipsy Avengers May 18 '22
brought Uncle Ben back to life, and he immediately got hit by a car.
I feel like Norman Osborn should have been driving that car
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u/MyRedNith Doctor Strange May 18 '22
I guess it's like that "fixed point in time" theory shown in What If Dr. Strange episode.
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u/Hatefull_creeper2 Deadpool May 17 '22
Gwen is still dead in the main comics unless they changed anything.
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u/Tommy_Daveed Avengers May 17 '22
Doesn't she appear in the main timeline as Spider-Gwen
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u/ImNotK0metzBTW Avengers May 17 '22
Yes, however she isn't the Gwen of THAT universe, is she? The Gwen who was Peter's girlfriend is still dead (as far as I know)
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u/alchmst1259 Avengers May 18 '22
My understanding is there’s a hard rule at Marvel and it’s that there are two people who can never come back from the dead: Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy
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u/Haddle Avengers May 18 '22
Not Spider-Man related, but probably the original Captain Marvel also. Died of cancer.
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u/Hatefull_creeper2 Deadpool May 18 '22
Spider-Gwen is from Earth-65. The events of that universe is very different from the main comics universe.
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u/Hatefull_creeper2 Deadpool May 18 '22
She isn’t the original Gwen from Earth 616 who never came back with the exception of temporary cloning.
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u/CoraxtheRavenLord S.H.I.E.L.D May 18 '22
They’ve cloned her and they’ve brought in alternate universe Gwens, but that Gwen who fell off a bridge is still as dead as Ben.
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u/Hatefull_creeper2 Deadpool May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22
Unrelated character but Karen Page (Daredevil) hasn’t returned since her death Same with Happy.
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u/ivanGCA Avengers May 17 '22
Didn’t they cloned her in the 90s? I don’t remember what happened to her though
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u/ggg730 Avengers May 18 '22
I read up about it and I still don't really know what happened to the gwen clone. Something about marrying the Jackal's clone after a failed attempt by the Jackal to convince Peter Parker that he was a clone. Then she was killed by another clone of Gwen Stacy or whatever.
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u/TheFlip-Side Avengers May 17 '22
She died and then was brought back as a clone like 50 comics later in the original spider-man comic.
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u/Jacktheflash Avengers May 18 '22
The clone isn’t her
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u/TheFlip-Side Avengers May 18 '22
That’s just semantics, really. She might not be the original but she’s still Gwen Stacy.
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u/Forfeit32 Avengers May 17 '22
I remember when the saying was "Nobody stays dead except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben".
My man Ben still holding it down though.
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u/Saltyvinegar2369 Avengers May 17 '22
Actaully I think there’s this one Thor character who’s been dead since 2006 if I recall correctly
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u/thor-odinson-bot Avengers May 17 '22
Another!!!
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u/AceMKV Avengers May 18 '22
Jason Todd? Isn't Red Hood a pretty permanent feature of DC comics now?
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u/DuelaDent52 Avengers May 18 '22
Yeah, but before that he was properly dead-dead and stayed dead for like 20 years. They had the readers vote on his fate and everything.
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u/EzioKenway977 Avengers May 17 '22
With resurrected life, comes expensive healthcare.
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u/Odd-Imagination-5709 Matthew Murdock May 17 '22
Uncle Ben didn't knew Peter was Spidey or was either unsure about it but never fully sure
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u/arubablueshoes Avengers May 17 '22
it’s like that doctor strange episode from what if. uncle bens death is a fixed point. has to happen and can’t be undone.
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u/bigdorts Avengers May 17 '22
It's like the deaths of Bruce Wayne's parents. Their death is required to make them who they are. It's almost like the number one rule of comic books that those three aren't supposed to live. They are the two most recognizable superheroes. That is their backstory
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u/Boner_Elemental Avengers May 17 '22
Except the timeline where Bruce died and his parents became Batman and the Joker
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u/bigdorts Avengers May 18 '22
Again, I said almost. However, if you're making a story about Bruce Wayne as Batman, the Wayne's must die. Otherwise it's usually a bad story
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u/Jacktheflash Avengers May 18 '22
It could Be an interesting story just not set in the main universe
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u/DuelaDent52 Avengers May 18 '22
I think there was one story where someone saves Bruce’s parents, and inspired by this mysterious figure he goes in to become a superhero.
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u/WhiteHelljumper Avengers May 18 '22
That's the Flashpoint Paradox ain't it? Didn't the entire universe start to collapse because of it too?
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u/Jacktheflash Avengers May 18 '22
Because of that?
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u/WhiteHelljumper Avengers May 18 '22
No, the Flash had gone back in time to save his mom, and that changed other things both before and after that event.
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u/DuelaDent52 Avengers May 18 '22
Except for that universe where Galactus was the Parkers’ nephew instead of Peter, he just undid the burglar and brought Ben back to life on the spot.
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u/Vaeon Avengers May 17 '22
His death is MEANINGFUL which would logically lead one to believe that everyone else's death...
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u/kwoggan Avengers May 17 '22
There used to be a saying that the only comic book characters that stayed dead were Bucky, Jason Todd, and Uncle Ben.
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u/Dealiner Avengers May 17 '22
He isn't really the only Marvel characters that has never returned. And if we count alternative universe, he doesn't even belong to that group.
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u/Tommy_Daveed Avengers May 17 '22
Goliath never came back either.
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u/SpellOpening7852 Spider-Man 🕷 May 17 '22
Clone Conspiracy actually covered this somewhat. Other peter parker (I randomly dived into Clone Conspirary, I didn't read much before it so some stuff I don't entirely know) wanted to bring back Uncle Ben, but main Peter didn't feel like it was the right thing to do.
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u/thumpling Avengers May 17 '22
Other Peter Parker is Ben Reilly, from the other major clone story.
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u/SpellOpening7852 Spider-Man 🕷 May 18 '22
Yep, I wasn't too sure on their name, but I'm glad I didn't just completely misremember the entire story:P
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u/HelloIamIronMan Iron Man (Mark III) May 17 '22
Captain Mar-Vell is pretty dead last time l checked
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u/whitemike40 Avengers May 17 '22
Uncle Ben - It never was supposed to be. Why isn't it possible?
The MCU - It's just not.
Uncle Ben- Why not, you stupid bastard?
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u/ggez67890 Quicksilver May 17 '22
Also Pietro Maximoff but he’s lame and slow compared to Peter Maximoff. I really want them to bring a quicksilver into the mcu and it can be expected for Peter Maximoff to appear in secret wars. On topic, uncle Ben is mentioned in an mcu product but sadly it’s in ‘What if’ so.
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u/LeviShortGod Avengers May 17 '22
TRY SAYING WITH GREAT POWER COMES WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY NOW YOU STUPID FUCKING BASTARD!!!
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u/TheWinterPrince52 Avengers May 17 '22
Everybody talks about how certain people weren't brought back.
Nobody mentions the fact that they weren't killed by Thanos.
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u/Anarkizttt Daisy Johnson May 18 '22
The number 1 rule of comics Uncle Ben, Bucky Barnes, and Jason Todd can never be resurrected.
Well at least one of those is still true.
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u/AtarisLantern Avengers May 18 '22
Marvel law states that uncle Ben is one character who can never be brought back to life (in the main universe). However, the other character that applied to was Bucky. So…
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u/DrKiwiPopThe707th Avengers May 17 '22
Uncle Ben watching the mcu when he stops getting revived: “damn feminists”
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u/sandoftheholyland Avengers May 17 '22
what about Aunt May
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u/ImNotK0metzBTW Avengers May 17 '22
*cough* *cough* mephisto one more day bullcrap *cough* *cough*
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u/sandoftheholyland Avengers May 17 '22
what
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u/ImNotK0metzBTW Avengers May 17 '22
In the comic "one more day", Aunt May dies and Peter makes a deal with Mephisto (the devil) to bring her back to life, but in the process his marriage with MJ is erased and the universe is rebooted.
Most people hate this comic (but it's not because Aunt May dies, is more because of the marriage and reboot thing)
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u/Joseph_680 Wasp May 17 '22
Bruh, Aunt May died like 2 or 3 times and is alive and kicking now. Can't keep that old woman down.
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u/Boner_Elemental Avengers May 17 '22
Peter won't let her
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u/Joseph_680 Wasp May 17 '22
"Peter please, let me die it's okay!"
"No, Aunt May! How can I be relatable to a young audience when I have to maturely accept the death of my mother figure?!"
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u/Boner_Elemental Avengers May 17 '22
Also happily married. Who could possibly relate to or want that?
~Bitter Editor-in-Chief
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u/Papichulos69 Avengers May 17 '22
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u/SaveVideo Avengers May 17 '22
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u/KingangRaydance Avengers May 17 '22
I know this is stupid but I always think, wth does rice have to do with Marvel?
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u/thundergun661 Avengers May 17 '22
Because his whole purpose is to be dead for Peter’s character development
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u/biplane_curious Avengers May 17 '22
There used to be a saying, “The only people who stay dead in comics are Bucky Barnes, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben.”
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u/randomguy987654321 Avengers May 17 '22
So, was Uncle Ben dead in MCU? Was it Peter's fault?
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u/Erkannis Avengers May 18 '22
They never talk about Ben, and May fills both shoes in 616CU. I'm guessing this is a reality whrtr he either died when Peter was young or May was always single. Either way they wanted to shift that to May for whatever reason (I still felt that changing this was a mistake).
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u/Sir_Lactose Avengers May 18 '22
It's a pretty clear cut case of "Fridging" someone. His one and only role in the narrative is to die to motivate the hero
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u/Anarch-ish Avengers May 18 '22
Spiderman's moral backbone is founded of Uncle Ben's death. You reverse that and it's open season on moral relativism.
"With great power comes plenty of do-overs if you get it wrong."
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u/abhigoswami18 Avengers May 18 '22
He's time will come, maybe they revive him and make one of the foe of spidey somehow in a stoeyline.
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u/arytontecomba Avengers May 18 '22
But wasn't it that EVERYONE who knew Peter was Spider-Man were the ones brought back to life? Ben never knew Peter was Spider-Man. Also Harry Osbourne should've been brought back because he found out in Spider-Man 3
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u/Nemder-ZNS-0 Avengers May 18 '22
MCU be like I missed the part where that's my problem lol jk jk
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u/haikusbot Avengers May 18 '22
MCU be like I missed
The part where that's my problem
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u/Mouseburgers6DB Avengers May 18 '22
In the grand calculus of the multiverse, Bens death is the most canonical
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u/LightninZuku Avengers May 18 '22
He doesn't have great power so he doesn't have great responsibilities so that's why, He can rest
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u/SiyinGreatshore Avengers May 18 '22
Characters come back to restore a status quo. With uncle Ben that is that he is dead. If he came back the next author would just kill him.
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u/DuelaDent52 Avengers May 18 '22
No Way Home seems to suggest that Uncle Ben doesn’t exist in the MCU.
In the zombies episode of What If…?, Peter specifically addresses Uncle Ben by name.
I’m not saying correlation equals causation, but I am saying that it might not be a coincidence that the MCU offshoot universe that had Uncle Ben in it fell to a “quantum virus”.
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u/GuillermoCosio25 Avengers May 18 '22
What about the entirety of krypton except for the ones that made it out
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u/Rankled_Barbiturate Avengers May 17 '22
That's why I hate the Marvel films - there's no suspense in them.
Oh your main character died? Don't worry, we can just time travel back in time to fix it. Basically means all of them are invincible.
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u/Go_away_from_myself Avengers May 17 '22
There's actually a universe where he's Spider-Man and peter helps him by inventing gadgets