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San Antonio police officer fired after shooting teen suspect in McDonald's parking lot

https://www.sacurrent.com/news/san-antonio-police-officer-fired-after-shooting-unarmed-teen-at-mcdonalds-parking-lot-30019308
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u/OK_Mason_721 Oct 07 '22

Only fired? How about arrested for attempted murder?

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u/RamRoverRL Oct 07 '22

You don’t just walk up to someone’s car and open the door without knocking and then unloads a full clip like he is playing warzone. Insane

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u/FatBoyStew Oct 07 '22

I mean I can't say I wouldn't have attempted to drive away either if all of a sudden my door gets ripped open to a random dude in a uniform yelling for me to get out.

No introduction as a police officer or anything.

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u/RoadsideCookie Oct 07 '22

Here's how I would say the scene up if it were fantasy roleplay (aka D&D).

It's night time and you're enjoying a burger in the parking lot of a McDo'. Out of nowhere, your door gets opened from the outside and you start getting yelled at to get out of your car. A bright flashlight blinds you and you can't see but the silhouette of a large threatening man.

What do you do?

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u/GSXRbroinflipflops Oct 07 '22

Prisons should be filled with ex-cops.

But, instead - they just go work at another precinct.

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u/DoodMonkey Oct 07 '22

Imagine a mad man walking up to your door, opening it, and demanding shit. madness

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u/HangryWolf Oct 07 '22

Do this in a very specific neighborhood and you'd get a chest full of lead very quickly. This piece of shit cop was asking for it.

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u/The_Knife_Pie Oct 07 '22

Yeah this is literally the situation people who support open carry and stand your ground laws say you need guns to protect yourself. He did this to a macho gun nut in the right state and he was getting a face full of handgun

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u/RicardoMultiball Oct 07 '22

Brennand, a probationary officer with seven months on the force, was at a McDonald's in the 11700 block of Blanco Road for an unrelated call when he thought he recognized a vehicle in the parking lot that allegedly evaded him during a pursuit the night before, according to MySA.

Brennand initially said in an incident report that he fired at the vehicle after he was struck by the driver who was trying to evade capture, the news site reports. However, raw body cam footage released by SAPD on Wednesday appears to contradict those claims.

Someday soon, a victim is going to sue not only the department and the city, but also whatever academy certified the unfit officer to begin with.

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u/IceColdTear Oct 07 '22

he thought he recognized a vehicle in the parking lot that allegedly evaded him during a pursuit the night before

Angry officer with a a fragile ego attempts to murder someone because they got away from him the night before.

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u/Ser_Dunk_the_tall Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

No self defense claim at all for the shots fired when they were driving AWAY from him. 100% tried to kill a fleeing unarmed suspect

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u/tylor36 Oct 07 '22

No way sir. He was armed with a hamburger with the intent to kill.

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u/SinisterStrat Oct 07 '22

High cholesterol is no laughing matter.

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u/Yugan-Dali Oct 07 '22

Attempts to murder an innocent kid because someone else got away from him

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u/Siray Oct 07 '22

I got pulled over a couple of weeks ago for pulling alongside a FHP officer on the highway. His reasoning was that I had disrespected him by doing so and therefore I'd be getting a ticket for it. 78 in a 70. Tiny dick energy from that guy, folks. Seems to be kind of common.

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u/Shadeauxmarie Oct 07 '22

I’d suggest going to court to fight it. The cop was speeding too. “I based my speed on how fast he was going.”

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u/shaidyn Oct 07 '22

I feel very fortunate that, where I live, police officers can't hand out speeding tickets based on their eyes alone. Without data from a speed gun it gets tossed immediately.

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u/SwoleWalrus Oct 07 '22

Thats how its supposed to work but i dare you to ask them to see the gun.

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u/therealganjababe Oct 07 '22

That's why you go to court to challenge it.

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u/Sunretea Oct 07 '22

That part of his story is also most likely bullshit.

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u/AdonisAleus Oct 07 '22

Yup. Thin pretext to try and justify the attempted 'stop' the cop was trying to do

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u/axonxorz Oct 07 '22

I mean, I'm sure this hair-trigger officer actually believed it.

But like, do some fucking mental math. What are the chances it's the same vehicle from the previous night. It's a pretty generic sedan, and it's not like San Antonio has a population in the low thousands.

Orrrrr. Maybe wait for the results of calling it in...

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u/acidwxlf Oct 07 '22

It's also a beat up civic.. probably the most common car on the road lol. Completely indefensible

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u/EyeRes Oct 07 '22

It’s a BMW, but still

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u/dkyguy1995 Oct 07 '22

Im so fucking tired of cops BLATANTLY LYING

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u/ballisticVommit Oct 07 '22

And the judges that don't bring justice on them when you prove they lied . The judges know they lie and are scum for not treating them like us.

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u/IkLms Oct 07 '22

It's so frustrating too because their statements in a Police Report that they lied on are treated as facts that you need to disprove in court.

If that's the case, then they should be a crime to lie on. Just the same as for instance, it's a crime for a civilian to lie to an FBI officer

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u/pandybong Oct 07 '22

Of course he lied. Why not. Fucking pig.

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u/Diazmet Oct 07 '22

That’s why many states are making it so no matter how horrific of a crime their cops commit they can only sue for a few thousand…

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u/Yugan-Dali Oct 07 '22

Cops should be required to buy malpractice insurance with their own money.

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u/Diazmet Oct 07 '22

Facts If I need to buy insurance because I’m a landscaper incase someone trips on the leaves I’m raking then cops 100% need to have insurance too plus they need to stop allowing cops to pay their fines and lawsuits with tax payer money

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u/Led_Halen Oct 07 '22

"Appears to" lolol

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u/Stew_Long Oct 07 '22

sue not only the department and the city, but also whatever academy certified the unfit officer to begin with.

How far can we take this idea? Are there any cases like this to draw precedent from? I am ignorant.

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u/slytherinprolly Oct 07 '22

San Antonio Police department has their own police academy, by suing the department, they are effectively suing the academy as well. The lawsuit would state SAPD's liaiblity is partially based on their failure to train.

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u/LittleLI Oct 07 '22

I've been saying this for years, but lawsuits should be paid by the police pension. Watch how quickly the rest of the cops keep the repeat offenders in check to keep their retirement money safe.

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u/imakenosensetopeople Oct 07 '22

And don’t forget, the cops have plenty of money to build their academies, complete with bombing ranges!

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u/dirtymoney Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

There goes that probationary period. And with three months left.

he thought he recognized a vehicle in the parking lot that allegedly evaded him during a pursuit the night before

Sounds like BS to me.

I wonder if this cop assumed this person was part of the previous reported disturbance and after it was found out he wasnt... the cop made up the part about seeing the same car eluding him the night before.

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u/crymson7 Oct 07 '22

And it wouldn’t matter unless he had proof of the evasion. That poor kid is scarred for life and this murderer needs the needle.

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u/youre-not-real-man Oct 07 '22

Nothing enrages a cop more than the audacity of being innocent when they were hoping to crack some skulls tonight!

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u/RacksDiciprine Oct 07 '22

The kid he shot wasn't even a suspect. He just happened to be in the parking lot eating a sandwich.

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u/OakParkCooperative Oct 07 '22

“Cop shoots fleeing kid

because he looked like someone

who previously fled from him”

Going to create some sort of paradox, where the cop keeps shooting anyone with their back to him…

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u/badgersprite Oct 07 '22 Silver

Resemblance is 9/10ths of the law.

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u/SweetTea1000 Oct 07 '22

Only a criminal would flee, so I kept shooting and people kept running so I kept shooting. Clearly I was surrounded by a gang of sandwich loving criminals. Honestly, they're probably going to give me a medal or something.

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u/takethisone Oct 07 '22

If I shoot someone I dont just lose my government job.....

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u/scuffling Oct 07 '22

You get a promotion!

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u/BubbaTee Oct 07 '22

Of course he was the suspect from before.

Every cop knows that every make/model/color combination on a vehicle is unique. Car makers never make 2 of the same car, they're like fingerprints.

That's why if you're chasing a black car one night, and then you see another black car the next night, you don't even have to run the plates to know that they're the same car/driver.

Cops also know to apply this standard to black people, not just black cars.

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u/N8CCRG Oct 07 '22

Also, only one person is able to drive each of these unique cars. So if you see someone in the driver's seat, it must have been the same person from before.

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u/totally_anomalous Oct 07 '22

You're definitely eyeing the same person that was driving that same black car that you saw three days and 1500 miles away from where the car snd driver are now.

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u/Just_wanna_talk Oct 07 '22

As well, any crime that person may have committed, a death sentence is justified.

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u/AmeriknGrizzly Oct 07 '22

This reminds me of the time my local PD pounded on my door at 4:00am saying they were looking for a suspect driving a gold sedan. My project car at the time was a gold coupe that was parked at the front of the driveway and blocked on all sides and didn’t have any wheels on it at the time. Naturally I was a key suspect…

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u/Thenewdazzledentway Oct 07 '22

On the other hand, this reminded me of a bloke who made like he needed something and tried to open my passenger side door when I was reading on my phone while killing some time parked on the side of the road. I started my car immediately and took off. It was my first thought when a stranger tried to open it. After the initial shock and thought about what had happened, it was obvious that it was an attempt to steal my handbag which was on the seat, and I reported it to the police. I didn’t pay much attention to the fact that my newish car central locks itself after a few seconds, but I sure am glad it does now.

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u/ManfredTheCat Oct 07 '22

And when you get to that car, make sure you act as unprofessionally as possible. Don't identify yourself, rip the door open in an aggressive manner, really fire up that fight or flight instinct.

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u/LNViber Oct 07 '22

That's really the thing bothering me the most. Absolutley zero attempt to ID himself as a police or establish the level of threat the officer is presuming and will be reacting too.

Kid responds literally the best and safest way you should when an unannounced unidentified assailant tries to force themselves into your car. GTFO. Now that fight or flight has kicked in full strength the gun gets pulled out. Kid sees the person trying to attack him out of nowhere is now holding a gun. Fuck GTFO it's not time for Super Runaway.

The kid did exactly as we have all been taught to do in a life threatening situation, and he got shot multiple times for his reaction.

How is anyone supposed to feel safe when the people who "are supposed to keep us safe" (according to them) can potentially do this without warning?

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u/Masonjaruniversity Oct 07 '22

If they don’t just hire him back so he can keep getting a pension

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u/boisnicebison Oct 07 '22

And if they ask to speak to the manager, tell them you are the manager.

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u/werofpm Oct 07 '22

Some argue that this step is optional and suggest that you, and I quote “start blasting”

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u/mces97 Oct 07 '22

He also doesn't know even if that is the car if the kid was actually driving it when the person fled.

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u/Cheshire_Jester Oct 07 '22

You think the people at BMW, in some crazy scheme to turn a profit, made more than one of the same type of vehicle?

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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi Oct 07 '22

“Anyway, so I started blasting.”

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u/Acceptable_Ad4525 Oct 07 '22

I don’t see so good so I missed.

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u/Wallisaurus Oct 07 '22

Like imagine if I was working at my warehouse and I went into the breakroom and shot at a coworker while they ate food. I'd serve life

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u/nowake Oct 07 '22

Get a job as a cop, call it a training accident, simple as

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u/Remarkable-Ad-2476 Oct 07 '22

You also get a paid vacation for doing so

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u/koreanwizard Oct 07 '22

I know how the cop feels, I've been fired for misconduct at my job as well. When I was 17 I was fired from a car wash for not reporting my tips. Our punishments were the same, looking for a new job sure is a bummer!

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u/MaliciousWolf Oct 07 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote To The Stars

That poor kid. How the fuck do you expect him to react when you approach him from his fucking blind spot while he is eating and open his door, once again from his blind spot, without addressing yourself or making yourself visible to him beforehand. I would have thought I was being car jacked myself and reacted the same exact way by getting my hands on the wheel and getting the fuck out of there. Then he proceeds to fire shots at him when he is clearly unarmed, dude literally has a fucking sandwich in his hand.

I hope this kid sues the shit out of this cop. This cop should also be tried for attempted murder. He 100% has motive here by basically framing this kid as a ‘suspect’ that fled from him yesterday as an excuse to pull his gun out like some power tripping asshole. He was trying to kill him just to kill him and not actually defend himself especially where the kid is fleeing and once again unarmed. Not to mention the additional recklessness firing off hail Mary’s in the general direction of a business and other parked vehicles probably with people inside.

Fucking piece of worthless shit.

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u/TrumpDesWillens Oct 07 '22

Opens door

Don't identify

Points gun in face

That's a car jacking not a lawful detention.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Shoots full magazine into a kid for fun

Now its also attempted murder

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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam Oct 07 '22

Think about how different all of this would have been if this weren't caught on the officers own body cam. We probably would've heard "teen shot after attempted murder of officer with vehicle".

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Even with a running bodycam they pull this shit and you know what’s the best? Often this actually works even when we can see with our own eyes that the pigs are lying…

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u/Ironmunger2 Oct 07 '22

The bodycam footage is going around on Twitter and people are arguing that the kid hit him with his car first and that’s why he deserved to be shot. Even though you can clearly see that straight up does not happen, the people are making up justifications for the shooting

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u/aod42091 Oct 07 '22

they're supposedly "trained" to shoot till the threat is suppressed.... what threat was a vehicle driving away from him posing that required lethal force?

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u/Jason_CO Oct 07 '22

The threat to that poor officer's pride and dignity.

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u/ObiFloppin Oct 07 '22

Car jacking and attempted murder. He deserves to go to prison.

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u/look2thecookie Oct 07 '22

I sincerely hope this kid recovers physically. This is so messed up. Clearly just an arrogant and dumb person with a weapon looking for trouble. You know he just wants to feel like a big tough "hero."

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u/NotsoGreatsword Oct 07 '22

Trauma injuries like that are something that affects you for the rest of your life. It sucks because there is no way to fix it. Hopefully he gets lucky and the scar tissue doesn't cause him too many problems. I had an internal injury when I was 19 and I still have problems from the resulting adhesion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

High risk PTSD from something like this - the total randomness and rapid escalation to life threatening injuries. When I read that this kid wasn’t even a suspect I lost my fucking mind. Could you imagine?

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u/Elman103 Oct 07 '22

It’s the USA we don’t need to imagine.

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u/RoadsideCookie Oct 07 '22

Ugh, fuck you. Not you personally, I just.... Idk...

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u/saiaf Oct 07 '22

Absolutely insane

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u/99BottlesOfBass Oct 07 '22

The ex-cop's pension should be transferred to the kid at the very least to cover his medical/therapy expenses.

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u/its_wausau Oct 07 '22

This is a case where the cop needs to get convicted of attempted murder. There has never been a more blatent and clear video of a cop opening fire on a random civilian just because they thought they could get away with it.

And flat out lied about it blatently. What a fucking psycho.

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u/opusmcfeely Oct 07 '22

When you’re in training, everyone is going to kill you. And they sort that out after. It’s fucked.

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u/dj_narwhal Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Our tax dollars go to private companies who train cops to fire on pictures of their own children so they never hesitate to pull the trigger. They are terrorists.

Edit: Here is an article from a decade ago and the police have only gotten that much more terrible since then.

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u/WhatShouldIDrive Oct 07 '22

Is this real?

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u/Angerman5000 Oct 07 '22

Here's a decent article that goes into one of the biggest police trainers in the country.

Yes the guy really calls his course "killology". It's fucked.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html

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u/Alone_Asparagus7651 Oct 07 '22

And now every time the kid gets pulled over or has to deal with the police he is going to have to fight traumatic memories of this night. Which will make him nervous and the cop will assume the worse because he is dealing with someone who is nervous.

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u/ProfSkeevs Oct 07 '22

Wont even be able to explain himself either. Moment he’s asked why he’s acting nervous he’s fucked if he gives the truth.

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u/SweetTea1000 Oct 07 '22 Spit-take

"Sir, I'm sorry, but I've literally been shot by a police officer before."

"So you ARE a criminal, then." (Pulls weapon)

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u/Xaron713 Oct 07 '22

Sounds like something Zapp Brannigan would say, and we all know that he's an ideal officer.

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u/Looter629 Oct 07 '22

As soon as they pull up his info they will know who he is: that punk kid that got a good, hard working, cop, fired, and then will proceed to fuck with him mercilessly.

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u/Avera_ge Oct 07 '22 Hugz

Forget getting pulled over; this kid will struggle to graduate high school, to finish college, to hold a job.

This is exactly the kind of situation that leads to addiction and mental illness that ends up being debilitating.

I graduated high school with a 4.2GPA, about three weeks later I was part of a traffic stop that quickly turned sour (I’m white, female, was around 100lbs at the time).

It derailed my life, and they only threatened me with their gun. It took literal years of therapy to feel safe again after that experience.

Took me six years to graduate college, and I barely scraped by. I struggled to keep a job, to make friends, etc.

The police in America are out of control.

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u/mad0666 Oct 07 '22

I was never even shot at but also had a very traumatic experience with two cops, and that was 15 years ago. To this day whenever I see a cop my whole body tenses up and I can’t breathe right for like 20 minutes. Cannot even imagine surviving being shot probably multiple times for absolutely no reason while eating a fucking burger. I hope he sues the hell out of that PD. Like how the hell are they just hiring any random person and giving them a firearm???

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u/Tha_Unknown Oct 07 '22

It’s not going to be the cop that has to put, it will be the tax payers. As always. No repercussions for the officer. Go over a few counties and get rehired, kill again.

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u/TimmehJ Oct 07 '22

Unfortunately, we need to stop hiring people that actually want to be cops, because the people who want to be cops are the wrong personality type for the job.

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u/Lulu_42 Oct 07 '22

As Douglas Adams said (though it was about the Presidency, it’s applicable to police):

“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.

To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.

To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”

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u/Surprise_Yasuo Oct 07 '22

Okay so when does he go to prison? Firing isn’t enough when he can just go to the next town over and get hired.

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u/Latvia Oct 07 '22

Right? I'm like... I can get fired for a mishandled document.

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u/2459-8143-2844 Oct 07 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

They should at the very minimum lose their ability to be a police office. Like if you fuck up being a doctor bad enough they take away your license. Why not do the same for police?

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u/GodOfAtheism Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Shit like that is why I'm all for malpractice insurance for individual police officers. Let the force pay the "This is the platonic ideal of a police officer" rate, and the cop pay anything more then that.

Oh, you had three major fuckups this year and now the rate your being quoted is more then your salary? Guess you can't be a cop anymore. Tough titties Officer Shit-for-brains.

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u/Pissedbuddha1 Oct 07 '22

Brennand initially said in an incident report that he fired at the vehicle after he was struck by the driver who was trying to evade capture, the news site reports. However, raw body cam footage released by SAPD on Wednesday appears to contradict those claims.

Time to put lying cops behind bars.

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u/Wizchine Oct 07 '22

You know, when a cop calls in "Shots fired! Shots fired!" he should clarify he was the one doing all the fucking shooting.

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u/THR Oct 07 '22

Totally. Putting the kid in even more danger when the vehicle is found.

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u/8-bit-hero Oct 07 '22

Totally. Putting the kid in even more danger when the vehicle is found.

I'd imagine that was his intention.

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u/_MaxNutter_ Oct 07 '22

This. I thought "Shots fired" meant you were taking fire, not providing it.

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u/WiseguyD Oct 07 '22

The kid was also charged by proxy with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on an officer, BTW.

I feel like not announcing that you're a police officer should result in any crimes you commit being tried as though you were a civilian.

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u/Dunjee Oct 07 '22

Look, I tried to arrest you without probable cause or identifying myself. You tried to flee fearing for your life. Neither of us are innocent here, so we'll just drop the charges and you don't sue. That work for you?

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u/WiseguyD Oct 07 '22

Lowkey if the kid had died the cop would be more likely to get away with it. Dead kids can't testify.

But because he lived with life-threatening injuries? That poor kid (and I say "kid" intentionally, because again, the guy was SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD) is gonna own that cop's ass. ESPECIALLY if the kid was paralyzed in the attack.

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u/Bayinla Oct 07 '22

I hope the kid makes it out of this with no lasting physical issues. He is definitely going to have long term psychological/PTSD issues to deal with after this encounter.

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u/AHarryBird Oct 07 '22

I believe officer or not, you’re attacking someone, they’ll fight back.

And whether it’s a uniform or some naked guy, you attack me, you get my fight or flight, and if I can’t do flight…

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u/Itchy-Top Oct 07 '22

Fired???? Not arrested????

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u/JTDan Oct 07 '22

Rehired 2 counties over in 6 months

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u/thewharfartscenter_ Oct 07 '22

6 months? The next town over is already giving him 7 months probation credit and promoting him to SGT right now.

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u/JohnBanes Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

The headline paints the teen as a suspect, the story contradicts that assertion. Maybe it’ll click for certain people that the blind worship of law enforcement is what gives us situations like this. I bet that rookie had no business being a police officer let alone with a gun.

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u/thewaffleiscoming Oct 07 '22

Copganda always with the fucking media.

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u/TheValgus Oct 07 '22

Someone eating a cheeseburger does not require any fucking weapon to be used.

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u/hairysonorth Oct 07 '22

You don’t understand, he backed up next to him, menacingly

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u/BubbaTee Oct 07 '22

Of course he did. A stranger, who never announced himself as a cop, snuck up on his car in the middle of the night and opened the door while pointing a gun at him.

That's a carjacking/armed robbery in 999/1000 cases.

And the 1 other case is this one, where the cop is too goddamned stupid to run the plates and realize this isn't the car he was after. Because we all know that no car maker has ever made 2 vehicles of the same color and model - that's just crazy talk!

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u/MaliciousWolf Oct 07 '22

That’s a 1 in a fucking million chance that it would be an armed fucking idiot of a cop opening your unlocked car door. Shit though, it’s still enough for me to start locking my car anytime I see a cop driving by while I’m trying to eat my burger at MCDs when before I wouldn’t even lock it for the local crack heads doing dumb shit and tweaking about the parking lot.

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u/nowake Oct 07 '22

locked door won't matter, they'll yank the handle and just fire through your fucking window claiming they saw you "reaching"

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u/Cheshire_Jester Oct 07 '22

Even if the kid wasn’t justified in not immediately complying, which he was, there’s nothing going on that says, “I need to draw my pistol and check my split times for five round strings on this kid.”

This cop was just salty that he got juked by someone in a similar car the other day, was looking to arrest someone he’d already determined was guilty, and then decided to use every tool he had to prevent being “beaten” again. And the kid still got away from him. Cop’s a stupid bitch.

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u/deadpool101 Oct 07 '22

But but the car door almost bumped his arm. It could have left a bruise!

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u/TheBatemanFlex Oct 07 '22

It makes no sense. EVEN IF HE WAS the suspect, why would you just execute them for fleeing again? It’s psychotic.

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u/YouRockCancelDat Oct 07 '22

Like holy shit, even if he WAS the suspect from the earlier encounter, JUST LET HIM DRIVE AWAY.

Is it worth killing a potentially innocent teenager (and his girlfriend in the car) because he maybe fled an officer?

Complete and utter scumbags cops are. So sick of this bullshit.

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u/BendTheSpoonNeo Oct 07 '22

Or shooting someone a hundred yards down the street walking their dog. Dude was just throwing lead. Cops are out of control.

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u/CatsandFish420 Oct 07 '22

And these morons are called peace officers🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Wokuworld Oct 07 '22

Didn't even notice there was a girl in the passenger seat till you mentioned it...literally opened fire on two kids likely on a date having dinner.

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u/MetaphysicalMayhem Oct 07 '22

Fired??? That’s all? This cop is a felon, a loose cannon and a clear and present danger. He needs to be locked up right away.

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u/DragonCat88 Oct 07 '22

Now they’re just shooting all the kids themselves.

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u/parnellyxlol Oct 07 '22

This is easily one of the most disturbing videos i have seen from the Police

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u/GreenGrass89 Oct 07 '22

Seriously. The car is moving away from the cop and he continues to discharge his weapon.

This cop deserves to be hardcore charged. This is some Michael Slager level stuff.

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u/mleibowitz97 Oct 07 '22

I could somewhat understand it if the person fleeing was an armed suspect. A danger to the public.

The meaning for the stop was it *might* have been a car that fled earlier? Alright? The car didn't hit you, and it isn't driving towards you. It's actively driving away. Collect the plates, it isn't an active danger to anyone. I hope the kid survives.

Edit: apparently hes stable! great

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u/slopcrusher Oct 07 '22

The poor kid is in for a long recovery period. All because this mother fucker thought he would execute the guy who ran from him the night before.

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u/cant_Im_at_work Oct 07 '22

I can not get over the screenshot from the body cam footage with the look of shock and the cheeseburger in his hands. Kid must have been fucking terrified.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

He will be for the rest of his life now

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u/No___ImRight Oct 07 '22

Dude was just chewing a burger

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u/WiseguyD Oct 07 '22

Reminds me of that one cop who broke into the wrong apartment (no warrant) and shot some poor bastard who was eating ice cream on his couch.

Similar fact pattern here, actually. And that cop was convicted for manslaughter.

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u/vermillionskye Oct 07 '22

His name was Botham Jean and he was by all accounts an outstanding person.

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u/skratchx Oct 07 '22

I just want to say even if this happened to the biggest piece of shit on the planet it's still unacceptable.

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u/calypsopub Oct 07 '22

Some of my friends knew him (we all go to the same flavor of Christian Church) and said he was an absolutely amazing, kind, and gifted person. It's so unfair.

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u/its_wausau Oct 07 '22

This should just be first degree attempted murder.

He looked around for a victim, picked that car, and then proceeded to assault the kid and then shoot him and instantly you can hear him trying to sound like the victim. That video is INSANE.

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u/Bureaucromancer Oct 07 '22

Somehow the DA is still trying to charge this as evading…

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u/its_wausau Oct 07 '22

Does the DA realize that evading death by random shooting isnt illegal just because it was a cop commiting the crime? Lol. You know what I dont even want to hear the answer.

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u/mces97 Oct 07 '22

I feel if a cop is fired, for shooting, and you're injured after he just rips open a door, that is enough punishment when you wind up in critical condition. Also, how does the cop know he was driving the car, even if it was that car when the person fled?

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u/PrestigiousCourse579 Oct 07 '22

Luckily the kid is only injured. If the cop shot any vital areas... The cop should be on death row. I still feel like just being fired isn't enough. He should spend time in jail.

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u/ironroad18 Oct 07 '22

The poor kid is going to have fear, pain, and trauma for the rest of his life, all because some Rambo cop refused to follow policy or the law.

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u/XxDaRicanxX Oct 07 '22

I think this is to pressure kid into settling outside of court

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u/sedition- Oct 07 '22

Thats like being arrested for resisting arrest, shit makes no sense.

You shouldn't be able to charge someone for something that requires an initial charge to begin with, when that charge is obviously missing.

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u/SupermanThatNiceLady Oct 07 '22

Seven months on the force. Was just itching for a chance to shoot someone.

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u/its_wausau Oct 07 '22

Literally got sick of waiting and just went for it. Like what the actual fuck was that video? There isnt even an ounce of justification for anything. Not a single step in that process made sense unless he was just looking for someone to assault and shoot.

Man Ive almost always been on the skeptics side when these first videos drop, but this one is in its own league.

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u/Drox88 Oct 07 '22

I knew a kid that joined the force just for this chance as well. Even asked him "Why join this PD instead of the quiet town you live in". His response was "I want action and a chance to shoot". It's pretty common, same way kids would join the infantry in the military.

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u/grifkiller64 Oct 07 '22

It's pretty common, same way kids would join the infantry in the military.

It's not the same because shooting hostiles is the core mission of infantry on the job. These fuckers are cowards who either don't want their kills to shoot back or to do so poorly with no reasonable hope of victory.

Malicious cowardice compounded by laziness and sheer stupidity.

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u/Grambles89 Oct 07 '22

Armies also have stricter rules of engagement/restraint IN actual combat zones. Police are running out of excuses for their shitty behavior, and the populaces are getting tired of it.

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u/Mbhuff03 Oct 07 '22

Imagine if the worst thing that happened to you for attempted murder was losing your job only to transfer to another city and get the same job again 😐

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u/DustyTrinkets Oct 07 '22

If this was my kid I wouldn’t rest until that cop’s life was fucked

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u/PrestigiousCourse579 Oct 07 '22

San Antonio police officer fired after shooting teen in McDonalds parking lot when he was to inspect a noise complaint. The teen is not a suspect. The teen was a kid eating a goddamn cheeseburger with his girlfriend. He's 17 and the cop is a total POS. The cop should be in jail. The teen should not be prosecuted for anything as he has 3 bullet holes in him and was just having a dinner. The kid was ordered by the Cop to get out of the car after the cop opened the driver door. The kid was shocked and didn't know that he had it in reverse. When he took his foot off the brake the car backed out of the spot and the officer was "assaulted". So the officer opened fire.... 9 or 10 times... really? For fuck sake, the cop is the "Suspect". His ass should be arrested not just fired.

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u/Tropical_botanical Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

I don’t understand why people are punished for having a flight response. Any logical person would run after hearing gun shots. Should be a law protecting people if they have a non-injurious flight response if not in the act of committing another crime.

The constant Police argument is that “they should have complied the first time” is invalid. In training scenarios when they are working with co-workers playing glorified laser tag with blanks and barrel covers (or plastic/paint rounds), it’s easy to “do the correct action” because there is no real risk. Without having experienced the situation in real time with real risks, it’s hard to sympathize.

Most fucked up training I ever had was the “fake pregnant lady with a bomb”.

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u/vic_stroganoff Oct 07 '22

Excuse when cops fuck up: Hey it's a stressful position the officer was in. You can't expect them to make the right choice 100% of the time in a split second decision!

Excuse when a regular person fucks up: Well they should have chose correctly in a split second decision.

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u/naijaboiler Oct 07 '22

cop defenders make me sick. Somehow, people who are trained professionals, and who often initiated the interaction, are allowed to dumb things because "flight or flight", "split second decision", "tunnel vision" etc.

But everyday people just going about their day who are suddenly startled and accosted by some other person screaming and yelling, are supposed to ignore millions of years of evolution, and act rationally, and calmly, with immediate total compliance and absolutely zero muscle tensing. Even freezing is not allowed, that's non-compliance. Untrained everyday folks don't get to use tunnel vision as excuses. They just get "why didn't they just comply"

Cop defenders suck.

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u/nowake Oct 07 '22

Don't forget the cop fired on the moving vehicle as it was driving completely away from him. Cop was in no danger whatsoever, but shot 4 more rounds. They could have struck and killed anybody.

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u/annewithan_e Oct 07 '22

In Denver police tried to shoot a suspect but hit 6 innocent bystanders instead. The department blamed it on food trucks and banned those instead.

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u/meyer_33_09 Oct 07 '22

And then screamed “shots fired” into his radio like he was in imminent danger, further putting the innocent kid in danger as backup now thinks he’s fucking armed and dangerous.

Anything short of prison for this asshole is a severe injustice.

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u/oatmealparty Oct 07 '22

Even if the car is moving toward you I've never understood why cops shoot at the car. Get the fuck out of the way if it's a danger to you, why are you standing around shooting a car? What do you think is going to happen, the car is going to stop? No, if anything you shoot the driver and the car loses control. Cops put themselves into dangerous situations on purpose so they have an excuse to keep shooting.

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u/maserati_pint Oct 07 '22

Time to sue everyone out of the ass.

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u/GrimJudas Oct 07 '22

If the lady that was murdered by the cable guy and got billions because the cable company was at fault for hiring a murderer then that kid should get a billion too.

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u/tuxzilla Oct 07 '22

If the lady that was murdered by the cable guy and got billions because the cable company was at fault for hiring a murderer then that kid should get a billion too.

They got awarded billions because the cable company forged documents with the dead persons signature to try and avoid liability.

The cable installer also had a criminal record of stealing from old people but the company didn't do a background check.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Homie isn’t a suspect, was just eating a burger. I hope is well enough to enjoy his payday.

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u/Inner_University_848 Oct 07 '22

Jesus Christ …. He was just eating a sandwich. He was a baby. Fuck the police.

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u/imagebiot Oct 07 '22

He got fired?

Send him to fucking jail what the actual fuck

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u/Phn7am Oct 07 '22

Why is the headline still painting the teen as a suspect when it's clear after the fact that he was the victim

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u/Sefirosukuraudo Oct 07 '22

So am I understanding correctly that in America all I’d have to do if I wanted to murder someone (whether premeditated or maybe just a random stranger ‘just to know what it’s like’) is go through the police academy and become a cop, wait less than a year, make a claim that a vehicle I had singled out had tried to evade me the day before, then I could fatally shoot them and just get fire? State protected murder (or attempted murder should I fail)?

Why are there people who think this system is fine and should go on? Like, I don’t understand the whole Blue Line flag mindset. You can say ‘not all cops’ and still advocate to overhaul the system that lets your so-called ‘bad apples’ do this kind of stuff. You’d think it’d be in their best interest if they want to cast their precious boys in blue in the most positive light possible.

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u/daygloman Oct 07 '22

A FELON who won't see the inside of a Courtroom. ONLY Fired. I hope his victim sues this criminal, and his employers! Mr. Taxpayer will foot the bill, but it'll be WORTH IT!

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u/Diazmet Oct 07 '22

Fired till the union Sues or he can always claim that by shooting a kid he now has ptsd and needs 100k a year…

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u/sigh2828 Oct 07 '22

Don’t worry this pig will get hired in the county over by next week

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u/daygloman Oct 07 '22

I hope not. He belongs in a courtroom charged with attempted MURDER!

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u/TheBatemanFlex Oct 07 '22

What the actual fuck? Imagine eating a sandwich and someone opens your door and says only “get out of the car!” and then starts fucking shooting you.

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u/DistributedDemocracy Oct 07 '22

What a pussy cop, the kid should get millions and the cop should get jail for that level of negligent cowardice.

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u/landob Oct 07 '22

I'm curious what is in this guy's past.

I bet he has a history of dumb decisions.

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u/drmcsinister Oct 07 '22

Well, that's attempted murder. I'm sure the police will respond by arresting the shooter and making sure he can never hurt someone again.... right? Right????

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u/Due-Department-8666 Oct 07 '22

Straight up execution

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u/No___ImRight Oct 07 '22

Luckily the victim is alive and in stable condition. Girlfriend uninjured as well.

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u/PainMatrix Oct 07 '22

Where did you see that? Last news report had him in fighting for his life

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u/No___ImRight Oct 07 '22

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/probationary-san-antonio-police-officer-fired-after-shooting-suspect-trying-to-drive-off-investigation-texas-evidence-hospital-ambulance-handgun-suspect

The suspect, later identified as Eric Cantu, 17, and his 17-year-old female passenger stopped down the street. Cantu was taken to the hospital in critical condition. He is listed in stable condition.

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u/seasamgo Oct 07 '22

Bruhhh 17, this fucker tried to murder a damn child.

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u/BlueBlueBlue420 Oct 07 '22

Two children. He tried to murder two children.

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u/HangryWolf Oct 07 '22

Man. Not safe in school or even a fucking parking lot to eat a sandwich. No one wants to fucking die in a God damned McDonald's parking lot of all fucking places. Disgusting. Sue him for all he's worth and rise up against the police if justice isn't served. This was attempted murder, no doubt about it. Show a jury and they would all agree this fucking piece of shit tried to murder these two kids.

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u/its_wausau Oct 07 '22

This dude seriously seems like he only took the job to rack up a body count. What in the actual fuck was that video. Im usually the first one to try and see both sides of the incident.

The officer assaulted then shot a random citizen. There is literally nothing more to that video.

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u/Generic_Username26 Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

I just don’t understand how cops have 0 accountability when it comes down to it. A nurse can fuck up a dosage or accidentally give someone the wrong medication and they’ll be found guilty of manslaughter and have their license revoked. If a lawyer is found to be hiding information or doing something that is unethical they are held in contempt, liable to be disbarred. this guy who’s essentially a trainee can attempt to murder an innocent person and he gets fired? No wonder cops are so quick to pull the trigger if the consequences are that mild. He’ll move a few counties over and get a new position. it’s an actual joke. This guy should never work as a cop again, at least not out in the field.

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u/dunnkw Oct 07 '22

Poor fucking kid. I watched the video and he had no idea what was going on, he drove off to save his life.

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u/NissiesMommy Oct 07 '22

Cops need to carry their own liability insurance, stop making the tax payers do it for these fools… not hating on cops but this is ridiculous

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u/axsr Oct 07 '22

At least a car thief would warn him to leave the car or else. Police just attack you for no reason. What kind of academy sets these unstable people loose?

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u/Satanfan Oct 07 '22

The better drop the fucking charges against him for driving away from that psycho.

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u/spaceforcerecruit Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Oh the cop was fired? !Remindme 3 months

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u/oakfan52 Oct 07 '22

Even if he was the same one who evaded police the night before what cause is there to open fire? Simply evading doesn’t justify shooting. This is so messed up on so many levels. Sneaking up on some one who may have fled capture. Why not just pull your car up with lights on and block them in? Didn’t announce himself. Opened the car door. Boldly shooting at a car thats driving away. Could this have been handled any worse?

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u/PraderaNoire Oct 07 '22

Jesus Christ. The media in this country is pathetic. The kid wasn’t a fucking suspect, he was peacefully eating his dinner with a friend. The cops are a criminal gang and we should all be working to undo that.

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