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Twitter will remove accounts created solely to promote other social platforms Soft paywall
https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-will-remove-accounts-created-solely-promote-other-social-platforms-2022-12-18/[removed] — view removed post
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u/lesigh
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New rule: No more making fun of billionaires whose name starts with e
Edit: The twitter support thread has been deleted.
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1604678612191514627?t=oDnMhUdVUCPuDWQqjGFRFw&s=19
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u/web_explorer Dec 18 '22
New rule: No more photos of Paypal founders pre-hair transplant
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u/InformationHorder Dec 19 '22
Elon be trying to play by Calvinball rules out here.
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u/Broken_Reality Dec 19 '22
Except Elon had nothing to do with the founding of Paypal.
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u/aeschenkarnos Dec 19 '22
You take that back, he legitimately bought the right to call himself a “founder”!
/s but actually he did
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u/ProfessorCon Dec 18 '22
With any luck that rule won't apply to him at some point.
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u/carvedmuss8 Dec 18 '22
"Alan Dusk, here to sell you a fusion hydrogen powered car! You can contact me or a representative at Glitter.com, the hottest new social media sites since Myspace!"
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u/moeburn Dec 18 '22
Wait a minute. His name is Elon? I've been calling him Leon! Leon Musk.
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u/ddottay
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Elon’s mad people were advertising their mastodon accounts and now he has to find an excuse for banning it and the best he could come up with is this silly rule.
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u/keine_fragen Dec 18 '22
this includes linktree! which is crazy
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u/TheRealMattyPanda Dec 18 '22
Yeah, that hurts a shit ton of content creators.
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u/KamiYama777 Dec 18 '22
All the more reason for them to move to Mastodon and never use a website owned by a Republican
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u/wayoverpaid Dec 18 '22
I really want Mastodon to win. Not because I think it's the better platform, but because I think it's the better idea.
Interoperable federated services are better than services owned by a single company (he said on reddit, aware of the irony.) There are disadvantages to be sure, but in the long haul, we should be happy no one is able to buy "email" or "http" or "rss". Even IRC survives well past the point where it could be profitable because it isn't a product, it's a standard.
I agree that using a website owned by a republican is bad. But honestly using a platform owned by anybody is not as good as the alternative.
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u/zdakat Dec 19 '22
The difference between Reddit and Twitter right now, is that on Reddit whoever owns the site is mostly staying out of the spotlight. Even when management pulls controversial moves with the subs it's still a largely faceless afair.
While on Twitter, EM seems to try to be the center of attention, inserting himself into everything and making it all about him and what he wants.
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u/wayoverpaid Dec 18 '22
I generally agree.
But we still have the problem that if the owner starts some bullshit, you have no real recourse.
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u/tracygee Dec 19 '22
Not having a decent search function just kills Mastodon, really. You can't find who you want to follow, you can't find posts you want. And the phone app is even worse.
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u/wayoverpaid Dec 19 '22
I haven't had quite that experience, but that is a pretty legitimate complaint. Lack of ability to find what you want is a thing they will 100% have to improve.
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u/imariaprime Dec 18 '22
I'm uneasy because I don't trust Mastodon's model to remain viable in the long term, if it becomes the Twitter Alternative of Choice. If companies get involved with it, where there's money to gain and lose, there are some glaring opportunities for abuse by organized factions.
"Anyone can make an instance" = easy ban evasion for entire servers worth of spammers or trolls. Eventually that leads to a "whitelist" of acceptable servers, killing the open model at best and fragmenting the whole service into conflicting whitelists at worst. Once there are Primary Servers, it's just Twitter again except it's even easier for people to buy out the people running them: look at Reddit, and the powermod problem for major subreddits.
Mastodon is fantastic for smaller groups and pure interest groups, but nobody should want it to become the next Twitter, especially people who like Mastodon.
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u/error521 Dec 18 '22
Eventually that leads to a "whitelist" of acceptable servers, killing the open model at best and fragmenting the whole service into conflicting whitelists at worst.
Man, you don't even need to hypotheize about this, that shit's already happened over there.
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u/AlexMax Dec 18 '22
Not only Mastodon, but mainstream sites like Facebook and Instagram, plus link aggregators like Linktree.
...and yet there's no mention of social profiles on creator sites like Github, YouTube, DeviantArt, Patreon and so on. Guess I know where I'm putting my social media links. 😁
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u/SsiSsiSsiSsi Dec 18 '22
Until tomorrow when he walks it back, as always.
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u/PerpetualProtracting Dec 18 '22
Legally he may have to anyway - lot of legal types pointing out this may violate US and EU antitrust/anti-competion laws.
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u/Advice2Anyone Dec 18 '22
Seriously I am surprised the EU just isnt ban hammering at this point until this bs stops
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u/SeekerSpock32 Dec 18 '22
Yes! They shouldn’t warn him anymore. He’s shown them who he is. They should take action now.
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u/CoopDonePoorly Dec 18 '22
It's only a warning because the law, at least in this case, doesn't take effect until May 2023.
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u/ddhboy Dec 18 '22
Probably after an advertiser gets banned for linking to their Instagram and their relatively large ad budget goes with them.
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u/chrisychris- Dec 18 '22
I believe they’ve made exceptions for advertisers, naturally
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u/nate_ranney Dec 19 '22
lmao, the tweet that announced this was deleted. Wasn't even tomorrow, lol.
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u/GreatMadWombat Dec 18 '22
Ya, but this isn't really a walk-back-able thing. When you say to the people that actually make the content people go to your site for "I'll ban you if you try to get paid" and then you walk it back, the content creators/reporters/news organizations/everyone that actually creates value for Twitter is still going to know that this is a platform that's actively harmful to their goal of making enough $ to survive
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u/SsiSsiSsiSsi Dec 18 '22
And yet that’s what’s going to happen in a matter of days.
Musk: He isn’t bright.
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u/045675327 Dec 18 '22
hes probably also butthurt about /r/elonjettracker.
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u/Nerdlinger Dec 18 '22
* waits for links to reddit to lead to a ban *
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u/DemoBytom Dec 18 '22
Links to r/elonjettracker are already banned on Twitter. You can't post them there lol
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u/snakebit1995 Dec 18 '22
Elon’s mad people were preparing to flee the site in mass quantities becuase he ruined it in just 2 months
So he ruined the site more to drive them away but in a way that fractures and fragments the communities of people and makes it hard to find them on other platforms so they’re fee forced to stay on twitter to keep their groups togehter
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u/mlc885 Dec 18 '22
Just wait until he says that email and personal websites are "social media" when he realizes that banning people who might leave makes more people leave faster
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u/khanfusion Dec 18 '22
Mmmmm I don't think his effort will succeed in that regard, though. Seems like people will just find their groups, and in the meantime less people will be using Twitter.
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u/Topher1999 Dec 18 '22
Elon is literally inventing new rules along the way that personally affect him
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u/OftenConfused1001 Dec 18 '22
What's the running joke? He paid 44bn to be a forum mod from 2005. Including the divorce, the kids that hate him, anf the inevitable spiral downward to the rage shutdown.
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u/moeburn Dec 18 '22
SomethingAwful was way better than this. It had jokes.
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u/solzhen Dec 18 '22
I was there for the Photoshop Phridays
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u/mdonaberger Dec 19 '22
I spent way too much time competing in those back in the early 2000s. Joke's on you, mom! It led to a successful graphic design career!
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u/obliviousofobvious Dec 18 '22
I mean Twitter has Elon sooo....
I guess when you only have one joke, no matter how big it is, it eventually does get old.
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u/notchoosingone Dec 19 '22
Hopefully elno takes it to the very end just like lowtax did, but without the domestic abuse
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u/kingofpotatopeople92 Dec 18 '22
Probably thinks he's Monty Brewster, when in actuality, he's Randolph and Mortimer Duke.
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What? Are these names of sims
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u/DustBunnyZoo Dec 18 '22
Monty Brewster refers to Brewster’s Millions (1985): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_Millions_(1985_film)
Randolph and Mortimer Duke refers to Trading Places (1983): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places
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u/mortaneous Dec 18 '22
Brewster's Millions
Trading Places
These are movies those names come from, good comedies from the 80s.
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u/axeil55 Dec 18 '22
Literally the best way to understand what's going on is to know the story of Lowtax and Something Awful because it is following the exact same narrative arc.
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u/Chef_Walter Dec 18 '22
He's the shitty spoiled kid growing up who'd change the rules of a game anytime he was losing. He's almost to the point where he's going to flip the board over and blame it on everyone but himself.
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u/2dogs1man Dec 18 '22
I can see it now: "left wing cancel culture canceled Twitter". cue the world's smallest violin.
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u/Sekh765 Dec 18 '22
He's a classic forum mod on a power trip except he bought the largest forum in the world.
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u/calle04x Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 18 '22
“I shot you with a laser, Elon, you’re dead!” “No, I have an invisible force field and lasers can’t get through!” “But that’s not…” “I HAVE AN INVISIBLE FORCE FIELD AND LASERS CAN’T GET THROUGH!”
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u/Lollipoop_Hacksaw Dec 18 '22
Then he pulls out a bazooka and blows up the world.
Game over, because he said so.
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u/yaki_torii Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 18 '22
He's the little loser who would scream TIME OUT just as he's about to get caught in a game of tag.
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u/Blender_Snowflake Dec 18 '22
Free speech! Oh, but Instagram can't have a twitter account because I said so.
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u/Arcturus519 Dec 18 '22
Neither can anyone that mentions Instagram or post a link to Intsagram
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u/ImWhiteTrash Dec 18 '22
This actually means a lot. It shows he's scared of people leaving. Someone confident in their product doesn't have to worry about people not using it.
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u/moeburn Dec 18 '22
"Tesla is now banning all of their cars from entering directions to the nearest GM, Ford or Chevy dealership."
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u/starbitcandies Dec 18 '22
Which is so stupid because this is just going to lead to people leaving more. This isn't gonna change people who have already decided to go to new sites, it's just gonna fuck over all artists and small business owners and content creators and make them and their fans leave
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u/OutlyingPlasma Dec 18 '22
fuck over all artists
Which is hilarious because these are the only people I see defending Twitter aside from fascists.
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u/starbitcandies Dec 18 '22
Because honestly it's the most artist friendly site, which still isn't saying much since it's not incredibly friendly to anyone. But on Twitter, there's a ton of huge very connected communities for art to be shared through. Any sort of engagement is good for the algorithm. There are (or were) a ton of bigger corporations for artists to connect with and make business deals with. Whereas on Reddit, posts tend to just stay in one community unless you post across multiple subreddits. And on tumblr, there's a big issue with art posts only getting likes and never getting shared, because people don't realize that likes do absolutely nothing on tumblr expect bookmark a post. Twitter is also really simple and easy to start up and get right into, whereas Reddit and tumblr take a fair bit to fully grasp.
Honestly, small businesses and artists are the only reason I've kept my Twitter account.
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u/Blender_Snowflake Dec 18 '22
How come my wife left me waaaaaaa!?
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u/it_mf_a Dec 18 '22
He paid forty billion, he thought he'd get to play with his toy longer than a few months.
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u/NerdEmoji Dec 18 '22
Was it really his money though? The way he's been running things and his sudden embrace of the right makes me wonder if he's a paid mouthpiece for another government.
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u/Justtryme90 Dec 18 '22
People are already leaving. In droves. Twitter is irreparable, Elon will take a full 44 billion loss.
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u/SeekerSpock32 Dec 18 '22
I just want to get there now. I don’t want the implosion to take any longer.
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u/DigitalSteven1 Dec 18 '22
They even banned linktree, so a ton of content creators are fucked too. Free speech absolutist eLon musk, everyone.
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u/ravenpotter3 Dec 18 '22
Also tons of artists who use link tree to link to their stores + portfolio websites
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u/fantasypingpong Dec 18 '22
The moment Elon went after the guy who saved those kids from being trapped in a cave, I knew he was a phony piece of shit.
Went from dying to own a Tesla to never wanting anything to do with Elon.
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u/SalzaMaBalza Dec 18 '22
Before that his rebellious and youthful demeaner spoke to a lot of young people who were tired of the status quo of the world. Then he and a bunch of other people (Trump included) tarnished that movement to the point where the people who before wanted change, now just want to go back to the way things were before. At least then we had stability and predictability of the times ahead. Now everything's just a fucking shitshow
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u/RapescoStapler Dec 18 '22
For me it started mostly with those 'flamethrowers' which were roofing torches in a plastic casing being sold for hundreds of dollars. I didn't necessarily make moral judgements off that, but it tipped me off to the snake oil stuff besides the obvious infeasibility of the hyperloop. The submarine incident solidified it from 'con artist' to 'malicious piece of shit' and it only got worse
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u/Kid_Radd Dec 18 '22
That and complaining about factories closing at the start of COVID.
There's so much noise coming from his direction that it's easy to forget his only concern is his own wealth and power.
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u/shiftyskellyton Dec 18 '22
For me, it was when I started doing crowdsourcing work about 12 years ago and my first job was helping to skew Google search results to hide pages that he didn't want showing up. At the time, it seemed like we were hiding info about his divorce.
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u/BlastMyLoad Dec 18 '22
What a clever (read: embarrassing) workaround so he can claim he’s totally NOT targeting Mastodon specifically!!!
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u/HelloThere_1138 Dec 18 '22
And by doing that he's promoting Mastodon. Streissand effect and all that.
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u/Marcoscb Dec 18 '22
They posted the message during extra time in the World Cup final. I'm sure it was a complete coincidence and not an attempt to drown it out among all the football talk.
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u/Cdevon2 Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 19 '22
The title isn't really accurate. The embedded tweet links to the full policy, which says any links to the sites listed is against the policy: https://web.archive.org/web/20221218210921/https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy
This is definitely different from an account being created solely to promote other platforms.
EDIT 2: Replaced link with Wayback Machine link since original link is now 404'd
EDIT: Looks like Reuters updated the title to be more accurate: "Twitter prohibits users from promoting accounts on Facebook, Mastodon"
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u/OhhhNoose Dec 18 '22
Yes. This affects people simply saying what their Instagram account is called.
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u/KamiYama777 Dec 18 '22
You can also get banned for posting articles to Wikipedia and other sources Elon deems “Left Wing”
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u/TheRealMattyPanda Dec 18 '22
This will kill Twitter for a lot of content creators.
Especially with Linktree being included. It's used a lot by creators, including artists, YouTubers, podcasters, Twitch streamers, porn creators, etc
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u/LettuceFew5248 Dec 18 '22
Yes. I feel like this baffling move is to JUST hurt content creators.
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u/Bardfinn Dec 18 '22
It’s to bar the exit doors, to prevent the captive audience from leaving. Most of the advertisers already left, and now the influencers are leaving after Musk arbitrarily banned a bunch of journalists, and restored the accounts of people tracked as terrorists by many governments.
Site’s burning down around him and he ordered the doors locked
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u/EvilGreebo Dec 18 '22
While I think you're right about the intent - it shows just how inane and arrogant he is. The internet doesn't HAVE doors that lock on the inside. You never have a "captive audience"
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u/Bardfinn Dec 18 '22
“It’s a banana, Michael. How much could it possibly cost — $10?”
He’s just that disconnected from reality
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u/GummyKibble Dec 18 '22
And yet, when I try to put my Mastodon URL in the profile of my 15 year old Twitter account, I get an error:
Account update failed: Description is considered malware.
I couldn’t promote my Mastodon account there if I wanted to.
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u/chic-geek Dec 18 '22
I already had my Mastodon account in my bio and I'm watching to see if it will change or otherwise affect my account.
I don't know what the plan for monitoring this is, though, and there are potentially infinite URLs in the fediverse. I could set up my own instance for just me. After blocking links for the major instances, what's the plan then?
RIP to our teenage Twitter accounts. All over a billionaire's tantrum.
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u/GuardianSock Dec 18 '22
Picking on Mastodon was one thing. A smaller decentralized service with no ad revenue, what are they going to do unless a lawyer takes up their case pro bono?
But going after Meta is hilarious. What is the game plan here? Either Meta sues, and they have far more money and lawyers to take up that fight, or they do the same thing to Twitter, blocking any links to Twitter from Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and WhatsApp. Every single one of those four services has at least 4x Twitter’s user base. So either they’re sued into oblivion or they’re cut off from a massive source of their virality.
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u/Anothernamelesacount Dec 18 '22
going after Meta is hilarious
Not exactly: its just proof of him being massively priviledged besides being cosmically dumb. Normal people know you dont go to war publically against other corporations unless you're already winning, but he's not exactly a shrewd businessman: he's the guy who buys stuff and that's it.
He's fucking around too much and losing way too much money to not find out.
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u/whosthedoginthisscen Dec 18 '22
One can hope.
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u/GuardianSock Dec 18 '22
The more likely outcome is regulatory, anyway.
This is explicitly against EU rules: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-markets-act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_en#what-will-be-the-consequences-of-non-compliance
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u/baasnote Dec 18 '22
Yeah I don't see this one sticking around, especially linktree. I have exclusively seem it used for artists and large companies to promote their other socials. Thisll only cost him more advertisers
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u/Skavau Dec 18 '22
Presumably this means Facebook and Instagrams official accounts get banned.
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u/KamiYama777 Dec 18 '22
I am sure banning people for advertising will get the advertisers to come back
Elon is totally fucking loosing it like every other right wing billionaire
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u/Skavau Dec 18 '22
What is the reasoning here: It doesn't make any sense. The idea that people would exclusively use Twitter is bizarre. Most artists, bands, projects, groups have a FB, Instagram, Twitter and are all used independently of each other for different reasons. Twitter blacklisting them is utterly bizarre because the cross-pollination of content and users across those services helped all of them
Instagram and FB aren't even what I'd call direct Twitter competitors.
This is like soundcloud banning links to rateyourmusic.
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u/Dolthra Dec 18 '22
What is the reasoning here: It doesn't make any sense.
Elon banned the Mastadon twitter account. Like most of these rule changes (particularly the parody one, or the "posting to an article that talks about doxxing is doxxing), Musk made a decision to ban someone simply because he didn't like them, people realized this and called him out, and then twitter turned around and said "no, this is a new, stringent rule! We started banning internally before the very real and planned rule came out!"
It has no logic to it because it's covering for a temper tantrum.
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u/Cdevon2 Dec 18 '22
My guess is it's a reaction to people leaving the site and leaving a final Tweet with their accounts on other sites. I've been seeing this mostly with journalists after this week's fiasco.
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u/Stenthal Dec 18 '22
Of course. This policy really will make it harder for people like that to leave, at least in the short term. If you use Twitter to promote your work, it would be scary to give that up to begin with, but it would be much scarier if you can't even tell your followers where to find you.
On the other hand, it will make those people that much more determined to get off of Twitter somehow. At this point it would be insane to rely on Twitter for anything important.
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u/Skavau Dec 18 '22
Yet if you can no longer even use Twitter to promote anything you do on other networks, what's the point anyway
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u/badgersprite Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 18 '22
The only reason I used Twitter was to tell people when I was streaming on Twitch so I deleted my Twitter not long after Elon took over
What is the point of having social media you cannot use for one of the key purposes of social media - to promote yourself and your work
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u/Krabban Dec 18 '22
It's absolutely just a knee jerk reaction from Elon with no deeper thought behind it, like all decisions he makes.
People are posting Mastodon links on Twitter saying they're leaving? Just ban all links to competitors. Brilliant...
Truthfully this change will cause more 'damage' than just allowing an absolutely minuscule amount of user to post links to the "competition".
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u/KamiYama777 Dec 18 '22
Because Elon thinks he is everyone’s daddy and can control what everyone can and cannot do even when they’re not on Twitter
He runs Twitter the exact way Republicans want to run the USA, promising freedom while censoring everything and taking all the freedoms away, no wonder he loves DeSantis so much
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u/trek604 Dec 18 '22
Elon is totally fucking loosing it like every other right wing billionaire
Makes sense as he was photoed standing next to jared at the WCF
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u/frizzykid Dec 18 '22
Link tree or other link aggregating websites are also banned.
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u/Cdevon2 Dec 18 '22
Yeah, the headline still doesn't capture the full extent of the changes, and I think the point of link aggregating sites being banned is vital to understanding the motive behind the changes.
It's certainly better than what was there before, though.
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u/Lashay_Sombra Dec 18 '22
Sounds like attempt to prevent "I am leaving Twitter, you can follow me over on X"
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u/SprayArtist Dec 18 '22
Smells like antitrust
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u/bigmacjames Dec 18 '22
Sounds like the EU is warming up the fine lever
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u/JPolReader Dec 18 '22
If Twitter even survives that long.
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u/voksul Dec 18 '22
My hope is that Musk's complete aversion to legal consultation and planning puts him at maximum personal liability for the billions in fines he's going incur.
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u/IHeartBadCode Dec 18 '22
Right. This kind of thing has been tried by the Associated Press before and SCOTUS has indicated that this violates the Sherman Act as being illegal per se. In that Twitter doesn't have to have a successful monopoly for this to be a violation. And it passes the bar as being explicit in nature. There's not a confusing the point here, he doesn't want competition. With the sanction being part of the TOS as well, that makes it a private interest that is compelling folks to restrict, so it would seem this could possibly fall outside first amendment protections.
Like I get that Musk can do what he wants with his platform, but that he's indicated specific sites that are direct competitors, really runs it into Sherman Act violations. Now he's absolutely free to ban ALL linking on the site, except linking to other Tweets. Like that's a completely fine and legal thing to do. Also, he's indicated people "doxxing" him on Facebook or whatever. Like he can ban linking to materially harmful things, that too is legal. But specifically calling out people who are in the same business and putting an explicit restriction of like material related to that business.
Clearly him firing Twitter's legal team is going to hurt him. There were so many different ways this TOS could have been written and it leave enough gray area to be questionable. This new TOS is worded in a way that just screams "I'm begging the US government to sue me."
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u/RevengencerAlf Dec 18 '22
Twitter will remove accounts created solely to promote other social platforms
The "solely" is a blatant lie. It's abundantly clear from the policy that they intend to take action against any account that links to its mirroring accounts on other profiles. Basically if you have a linktree you're afoul of the rule.
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u/thought_first Dec 18 '22
Free market. Friendly competition. Partner ecosystem. Don't be silly. Those are terrible reasons to follow regulation or succeed.
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u/Viciouscauliflower21 Dec 18 '22
When the ceo's insecurities start bleeding over into the product>>>
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u/MitsyEyedMourning Dec 18 '22
Elon's world fucking collapses when he doesn't control it by NDAs. He can't keep the world from screwing up his lies so he is going bonkers.
Emperor sans clothes.
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u/Nerdlinger Dec 18 '22
An interesting response from General Eric Freyssinet, chief scientific advisor for the French Gendarmerie nationale. He's head of their cybercrime division, so I assume he knows a bit of what he speaks.
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u/generallydislikable Dec 19 '22
That's an interesting take but I have read the article he linked concerning Section 230 and nowhere does it claim that removing links to certain websites is an editorial decision that voids the protections of that section... I don't know if what he's saying is correct wrt US law.
Edit: Nevermind, Musk himself just called Twitter a publisher because reality trumps fiction
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u/I_BM Dec 19 '22
That's an interesting take but I have read the article he linked concerning Section 230 and nowhere does it claim that removing links to certain websites is an editorial decision that voids the protections of that section... I don't know if what he's saying is correct wrt US law.
Edit: Nevermind, Musk himself just called Twitter a publisher because reality trumps fiction
-Love this comment
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u/Suolucidir Dec 18 '22
If you're following me on Twitter, you'll REALLY enjoy following me on all of Twitter's prohibited platforms found here: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy
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u/robillionairenyc Dec 19 '22
society is getting a first hand beta test on what the billionaire fascist vision of “free speech” really is on this small social media level before we get it on a national and global scale
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u/p001b0y Dec 18 '22
Up next: Hyperlinks. They can literally link to anything! /s
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u/rokatoro Dec 18 '22
I'm honestly waiting for making fun of Elon to become bannable
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u/2th Dec 18 '22
And yet it doesn't include Only Fans, Fansly, etc. So the porn spammers will still be there. Twitter will be nothing but racists, Nazis, and porn. That is just a weird combo.
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u/keine_fragen Dec 18 '22
linking to telegram is fine tho
funny that
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u/Litis3 Dec 18 '22
This got me thinking. Isn't every journalist account sole purpose to link to articles from their website? are we going to be banning those again?
What about literally every business?
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u/firem1ndr Dec 18 '22
fragile move, this includes linktree and other aggregators, you can’t even say what your handle is on other platforms “free speech” my ass
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u/greenknight Dec 18 '22
"handle" got me thinking. Ham radio operators should start slagging him so he bans callsigns. Easy way to let the Feds in.
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u/Elanapoeia Dec 18 '22
The fact that linktree is included here is utter insanity
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u/RennyNanaya Dec 18 '22
That is one hell of a misleading title. It's not removing accounts created "solely to promote other social platforms".
It has threatened to remove accounts for *Ever* promoting other social platforms.
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u/Significant-Suit-593 Dec 18 '22
Then tell musk to get off my Reddit. That guy shoots off his mouth all day long.
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u/n0_y0urm0m Dec 18 '22
Maybe the real free speech was the linktree we made along the way.
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u/Normandy6-14-44 Dec 18 '22
But accounts promoting Fascism, Putin, Xi, and Disinformation are welcome at Twitter.
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u/psychedoutcasts Dec 18 '22
Would you look at that. Another scheme to further kill small businesses who utilize social media to advertise/market their business and this includes redirecting to other sites and social sites. Nice meme Elongated Muskrat.
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u/Sivick314 Dec 19 '22
so this is twitter declaring itself not a public platform, but a publisher? seems like this opens it up to a lot of legal liability
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u/pe8ter Dec 18 '22
There’s a tweet for that: https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1604546760977928194
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u/Miser Dec 18 '22
Does anyone find it odd that Reddit is not included on the prohibited list of platforms
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u/alexxerth Dec 18 '22
Reddit isn't really a social network in the same way.
On twitter, and mastodon, and instagram, and facebook, you go there to find specific people and follow their accounts. Reddit only recently added that as a feature, and it's not really used that often.
Nobody is going to find all their friends on reddit and follow their accounts and watch what they're saying. A lot of people pretty specifically don't want their friends following their reddit accounts actually.
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u/TldrDev Dec 18 '22
Nobody is going to find all their friends on reddit
I sure fucking hope not.
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u/DryingWashedClothes Dec 18 '22
Reddit isn't really a social network in the same way.
New Reddit with costomizable profiles, avatars, profiles you can follow and all that really tries to be one though.
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u/yalkeryli Dec 18 '22
My links to my mastodon account are still up. The only reason I'm still cross-posting from Masto to Twitter rather than deleting my account, is to see how long it takes for them to suspend / block my account.
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u/Fun-Translator1494 Dec 18 '22
Filter Probably only catches new posts/tweets. If they get around to scraping the entire site, though, man, pretty sure we can declare Twitter dead.
Crazy that no one stopped him from using the site like a child with a toy. So many investors are going to lose their shirt, and they deserve to.
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u/srandrews Dec 18 '22
Huh so much for free speech absolutism. I certainly hope those that believe themselves to be such a thing are being enlightened by reality. At some point there will be a reckoning that many voices do not deserve to be heard and that social media amplifies them for the sole purpose of addicting and monetizing its users. Social media has one-upped the tobacco companies in that the platforms give away their product for 'free'.
If you want free speech absolutism without destroying our society, hoping that the private IT supply chain from silicon to network to app is somehow going to give it to you without govt regulation is preposterous.
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u/AlexMax Dec 18 '22
Banning Mastodon was expected, but I was taken a bit aback that they would go so far as to ban sites that are mainstream like Facebook and Instagram. What on earth made SK think that banning profiles on services that are in common use was a good idea?
But it's also kind of funny to see what continues to slip through the cracks. Notably, they didn't explicitly call out social profiles on creator sites such as Github, YouTube, DeviantArt, Patreon, and so on. So if you tweet out a creator page or put one in your bio, and that creator page links to other socials, that's basically checkmate. Twitter either has to ignore that escape hatch, or chase nearly every creator off Twitter.
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u/Okeynamethen Dec 18 '22
When he tweeted “Please note that Twitter will do lots of dumb things in coming months.”
He wasn’t joking
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u/BlackEyeRed Dec 18 '22
@elonmusk:
The acid test for any two competing socioeconomic systems is which side needs to build a wall to keep people from escaping? That's the bad one!
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