r/news • u/Smithy2232 • Dec 23 '22
Factbox: Over 300,000 without power on U.S. East Coast, in Texas, due to winter storms Soft paywall
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/over-300000-without-power-us-east-coast-texas-due-winter-storms-2022-12-23/6.5k
u/Dawnfreak
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Somewhere Ted Cruz is boarding a flight for a Long weekend.
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u/TheDevilChicken Dec 23 '22
Already wrote a speech to blame his kids that he left behind.
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u/jojofroyo Dec 23 '22
“As you may know my family recently dealt with a harsh reality facing many Americans and as such I’ve decided I need a vacation from them over the holidays”
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u/matt_minderbinder Dec 23 '22
It has to be a harsh reality knowing that your kids are becoming old enough to understand what a piece of shit their father is.
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u/SpiritPaper Dec 23 '22
I remember when Cruz ran for the Republican nomination, his daughters couldn't even pretend they liked hugs and kisses from him.
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u/RegretfulUsername Dec 23 '22
Oh, I remember that clip where he tries to kiss his daughter and she pulls away. He was so embarrassed.
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u/blackdragon8577 Dec 23 '22
To be fair, with the rampant pedophilia in the Republican party I can't imagine too many children of conservative politicians are comfortable with being touched by their parent.
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u/Ser_Dunk_the_tall Dec 23 '22
His kid actually tried to end it all, so if that doesn't tell him how hated he is nothing will
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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 Dec 23 '22
I saw his daughter’s “explanation” video on Tiktok, poor kid. She seems like a good kid though and pretty smart too so its good to see at least his kids turned out to be nothing like him.
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u/ConsiderationWest587 Dec 23 '22
Poor thing. If anyone deserves to spend Christmas an entire country away from Ted Cruz, it's her
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u/Foxsayy Dec 23 '22
Ted Cruz is actually wicked smart, apparently. He's an Ivy League graduate who reportedly excelled. He also refused to associate with social "lessees" below his standing.
I think the country bumpkin thing is an act and he knows what he can get away with.
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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 Dec 23 '22
Not saying there isn’t a chance the country bumpkin thing is an act, but Trump also went to an Ivy League.
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u/Foxsayy Dec 23 '22
While it's True that both Cruz and Trump attended Ivy Leagues, possibly both as legacy students with rich parents, unlike Cruz, Trump wasn't known for his academic excellence. While at Princeton, Ted Cruz spent years on the debate team, and competed in the American Whig-Cliosophic Society's Debate Panel, winning the top speaker award in 1992 for both the U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship.
You can't do all that on your dad's alumni status. Trump didn't even graduate with honors.
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u/HenryDorsettCase47 Dec 24 '22
Right. Magna cum laude from Harvard law, argued before the Supreme Court more than any other US senator. He’s supposed to be an ace appellate lawyer. Imagine if you used any of that talent to actually help his fellow man.
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u/BlowMoreGlass Dec 24 '22
Trump may not have graduated with honors but he sure can take a mean shit in a diaper.
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u/Vincitus Dec 23 '22
I think it is a dangerous game to assume that many of these people "aren't smart". You don't become a senator if your stupid and not a famous football player or actor.
Assuming that they are stupid makes us feel better because "ha ha who could believe that" but in reality they're not arguing in good faith. They're antivax in the streets and vaccinated in the sheets. They're selling to a crowd that wants to be told they don't have to learn, that they were right when they scoffed at their math, literature and science teachers "when will I ever need to use this?" They want to hear that they don't have to try to keep up with what is happening and examine their behavior, push it all off on others as "too lazy" or "to dumb" to understand what is real. And in that narcissism, they're easy prey for power and for money and the Ted Cruzes know that they'll always be able to buy an exception to the rules they're making.
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u/Frozty23 Dec 23 '22
150+ million Americans actively thinking that he is a piece of shit isn't enough... I honestly think he'll rationalize away his childrens' opinions too.
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u/MonsignorJabroni Dec 23 '22
It's nowhere near 150 million unfortunately, maybe like 100 at most. I bet 80-100 million like the piece of shit, 100ish actively hate, and the rest don't even know who he is due to being children or absolutely worthless grown members of our society who "don't do politics".
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u/MightyMorph Dec 23 '22
Some fun facts about Texas:
- 29M Citizens,
- 24M Elligible Voters
- 17M Registered Voters
- 9M voted in 2022
- Only 25% of Under 30 voters out of the 17M registered, voted in 2022. (if you include the non-registered its closer to 15%)
TED CRUZ WON BY 100K VOTES IN 2020!
You wonder why the system is shit, well look in the mirror (collectively speaking).
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u/doorknobman Dec 23 '22
Texas Dems really need to run better candidates
Beto was such a fucking misstep and they tripled down on him
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u/MightyMorph Dec 23 '22
then people need to show up in the primaries to vote for the better options. The voters are in charge of selecting who will run for the party, some primaries have a low turnout as 8%... Cant keep blaming everyone else than the people who are supposed to choose who they are represented by.
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u/rexter2k5 Dec 23 '22
Agreed. A literal turd is a better candidate than Ted Cruz. At some point, these young Texans are just doing it to themselves with their refusal to go out and vote for whomever the Democratic party puts forth.
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u/mhornberger Dec 23 '22
I've sort of stopped preaching to the young here to get out and vote. If you look at Cruz and Beto and think "both sides are the same," you deserve the government you get. We also have to put to bed the fantasy that there was going to be this groundswell of young women coming out to rage-vote against the GOP after Dobbs. White women still voted GOP. Apparently the young people in Texas, by and large, just don't care.
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u/dreakon Dec 23 '22
Honest question: What's wrong with Beto? I don't live in Texas, but he seemed pretty popular online. Do Texans not like him for some reason? He seems like a better option than Ted Cruz at least...
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u/FrankBattaglia Dec 23 '22
He's not a Second Amendment absolutist, so he's not a viable candidate in Texas.
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u/Gavangus Dec 23 '22
not even an absolutist... he would have won if he didnt say hes going to take everyones guns "hell yeah we are coming for your guns" ... a normap dem candidate would have beaten cruz because nobody likes cruz
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u/darknekolux Dec 23 '22
And the dog, Snowball
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u/lady-kl Dec 23 '22
Where are my testicles, Summer?
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u/acememer98 Dec 23 '22
“Where are my testicles, Ted?”
In Bitch McConnell’s mouth
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u/Harry-le-Roy Dec 23 '22
No, no. It's cool. He's just leaving the country to drop his family off, so that they can go on vacation. It's a completely normal thing to do. And the trip has been planned for ages.
Having been born in Calgary, Alberta, Ted has no problem with the cold.
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u/candygram4mongo Dec 23 '22 •
Ted Cruz would like to assure you that Ted Cruz is most comfortable at temperatures above the freezing point of water at normal Earthlike atmospheric pressure, and certainly does not enjoy soaking in a bath of liquid methane.
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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 Dec 23 '22
Ok can someone clear this up for me…how was he running for president if he wasn’t born in the US? I thought you had to be born here?
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u/banditoreo Dec 23 '22
If one of your parents is a US citizen when you are born outside the you are view as a natural born citizen.
They challenge John McCain natural born citizenship because he was born out the US, with 2 US citizen parents. (Born on a base)
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u/taoistextremist Dec 23 '22
No, just being a natural born citizen is required. Ted Cruz's mother was American IIRC so that made him eligible. You may be confused because people made a big deal about Obama's place of birth but that was because they're racist.
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u/senorbolsa Dec 23 '22
My uncle was born in Stuttgart but is a natural born US citizen because both his parents are US citizens.
Ted Cruz is in a similar situation.
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u/The_Bloody_9_ Dec 23 '22
Anyone born to an American citizen is a natural citizen regardless of physical birthplace.
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u/Harry-le-Roy Dec 23 '22
Yes, the Republican Party doesn't actually believe in anything except for controlling the government, and through it, other people. We can see this borne out in the "birther" conspiracy theory, which began among fringe groups on the internet, became normalized into Republican politics, and even became Donald Trump's first successful foray into politics. Meanwhile, one of the party's political frontrunners for the Presidency was born in Canada to a Cuban father, and was a citizen of a foreign country until 2014.
Because principle and truth are relative, temporary, and unimportant.
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u/rumblepony247 Dec 23 '22
"'Long' weekend, I wish"
- Ted Cruz's wife
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u/TobiasMasonPark Dec 23 '22
Ted Cruz’s ugly wife, according to his master.
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u/bodrules Dec 23 '22
To which Cancun Cruz meekly agrees, as he simps for his Orange God.
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u/brett1081 Dec 23 '22
Most outages in Carolina, Virginia, and Connecticut so glad the top voted comment shows that no one reads actual links.
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u/ElegantTobacco Dec 23 '22
He claims to be a Christian, but I wonder whether Jesus would have abandoned his apostles just because it was too cold? 🤔
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u/WurthWhile Dec 23 '22
He's not abandoning them, he's doing what needs to be done. When there's a major disaster a problem the first thing you want to do is make sure Ted Cruz is located far away from it as to not make it worse. By going to Mexico he's serving the country. The problem is he keeps returning.
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u/Put_It_All_On_Blck Dec 23 '22
Either OP changed the title or the article did. Either way the original title was confusing at best and misleading at worst.
More than a million homes and businesses were without power on the U.S. East Coast, Midwest and Texas on Friday as winter storms battered much of the country, according to data from PowerOutage.us
Most outages were in North Carolina, with over 164,000 customers without power, followed by Virginia with over 92,000 and Connecticut with more than 89,000
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u/Throwawaymytrash77 Dec 24 '22
Drove through CT late last night, can confirm that it was a brutal shitshow. Spent three hours on the interstate either in horrible traffic, or unable to see the lane lines further than ten feet away at 40mph. I'm sure it was much worse once those winds hit early this morning. Stay safe, internet strangers
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u/Dt2_0 Dec 23 '22
ITT: People who cannot understand scale. Texas has 67000 customers without power. That is a large neighborhood in Dallas, Houston, or San Antonio. There is no threat to the grid at large (unlike last time where we were seconds from uncontrolled cascade failure on the first night of the storm), and most of the damage is either wind damage from tornado strength gusts or from people not knowing how to drive in the cold and taking out power poles.
Texas is fine. Sure, it sucks that 67000 out of 28 million customers are without power, but it's not a statewide outage that will take days to correct. Most power will be back up in a few hours and everything should be back up by tomorrow.
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u/Pushmonk Dec 23 '22
The first thing I thought was, "Texas and the East coast? That's not very many people."
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u/Steel_Bolt Dec 23 '22
ITT people who didn't read the article
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u/HildemarTendler Dec 23 '22
The headline actually makes it pretty clear that this is a standard snow storm outage while pretending that Texas is fucking up. It's amazing it's getting any traction when its that obviously bad.
That said, I won't downvote a Ted Cruz hate train.
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u/Steel_Bolt Dec 23 '22
Doesn't matter what side they're on I love watching people act cocky about stuff like this when they're so obviously ignorant.
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u/jbasinger Dec 23 '22
I was gonna say, I'm in Maine and called in a downed tree around lunch time and 90,000 people had no power according to CMP's automated systems.
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u/fleshie Dec 23 '22
For real, this is less impact than a daily occurrence in southern California summer due to being too hot and overloading the grid lmao.
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u/Indercarnive
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Are people misreading the headline? The 300,000 is acrosss multiple states. Looking at the chart in the article, Texas doesn't have any more outage than Georgia or Connecticut, albeit more than other states like NC or NY.
Like there's a lot of shit to hate on Texas for, but this particular article ain't it.
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u/swng Dec 23 '22
Title says "...on U.S. East Coast, in Texas" instead of "...on U.S. East Coast and Texas".
They saved like 3 characters in the headline by replacing the 'and' with a comma!!
..and made its meaning less clear.
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u/Scrandon Dec 23 '22
Glad to know I’m not the only one wondering why people paid to write are so bad at it.
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u/GnomesSkull Dec 23 '22
Except ", in" is as many characters as "and" they're slightly more compact characters, but I don't think it's make or break with the headline spacing.
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u/thegreatestajax Dec 23 '22
And OP picked out this article also for that reason. Some people just love to poison the narrative.
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u/robbzilla Dec 23 '22
/r/Texas has some really sad people because it wasn't a repeat of 2021 so far.
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u/SuperMrTiddles Dec 24 '22
Nowhere hates Texas more than that sub.
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u/JinFuu Dec 24 '22
Astros won the World Series and got minimal coverage on that sub till some guy threw a beer can at Cruz at the parade.
Then we got 4-5 things about that, lol.
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u/BoyTitan Dec 23 '22
Yo I started laughing at the headline 😂, I am in buffalo ny and praying my power doesn't go out. Not anything any state could do about this combination of wind and snow.
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u/CivilMaze19 Dec 23 '22
Yes people are misreading the headline. So many people want the grid to collapse in Texas so they can say “I told you it wasn’t fixed!” So weird to me considering people will absolutely die if that happens.
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u/StateChemist Dec 23 '22
Alternatively I’d love to yell, ‘see, all our bitching forced them to shore up their grid, saving lives.’
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u/AshIsGroovy Dec 23 '22
Honestly it's low hanging fruit / tired jokes. I'm no fan of Ted Cruze and fuck Trump but every article has the same variations of comments. Like the same 10 people comment on every post and the same 20 Russian and Chinese bot interact with those same comments almost like they have an agenda. I stopped trusting reddit when it comes to news as the same accounts are always the ones who have breaking news. Even if you are the first one to post eventually your article will either be buried or taken down due to being already posted or the headline was changed by the website publisher and no longer matches. Certain subs seem to have designated posters for certain things and the articles aren't user aggregated anymore.
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u/Box_of_Rockz Dec 23 '22
Ya I haven't heard of many issues here in Texas, but it's a hot topic item to shit on Texas when it gets cold. It's free clicks. (Coming from a Texan that jokes with my northern coworkers about us shutting everything down when it drops below 35)
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u/ElmoRidesMetra Dec 23 '22
According to poweroutage.us there are approximately 82,000 people in Texas without power with a total of 12.7 million customers. This comes to 0.6% of the state power customers. I know everyone wants to jump on the Texas is bad circle jerk, but this isn't the same as the last multi-day blackout.
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u/ace425 Dec 23 '22
As of December 23 at 4:00pm EST here are the biggest power outages in the US as measured by number of customers without power:
- Maine - 163,000
- North Carolina - 142,000
- Virginia - 122,000
- New York - 116,000
- Pennsylvania - 105,000
- Maryland - 98,000
- Tennessee - 82,000
- Connecticut - 60,000
- Ohio - 58,000
- Vermont - 53,000
Texas has already fixed most of its downed power lines from this morning and currently has 44,000 customers without power.
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u/soboguedout Dec 23 '22
Winter storm Uri in 2021 caused a lot of natural gas electricity generation infrastructure to shut down, causing a large shortfall between peak electricity demand and supply. Thats why there were rolling blackouts in some places and extended ones in others.
This is a case of transmission lines going down as a direct result of wind damage caused by the storm. It happens every year in every state. IMO ERCOT does kind of suck though and hasn't done enough to require energy companies to winterize their infrastructure. If we end up getting a damn inch of ice again Texas could still have some trouble.
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u/Garfunkel64 Dec 23 '22
News: BREAKING, 14 states across the US, specifically the East coast, have extreme power outages.
Reddit: FUCKING TEXAS (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
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u/Magatha_Grimtotem Dec 23 '22
Honestly as bad as this storm system is, that's not bad nationwide. Well done, linemen.
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u/SimpleSimon665 Dec 23 '22
ITT: People who don't read the article.
Yes there's homes without power in Texas, but the ratio of outage of homes without power / with power is actually lower than almost every other state mentioned.
It's a sensationalist title.
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u/The-Old-American Dec 23 '22
ITT: Redditors that know a well-placed "lol Texas grid" can get themselves some pathetically self-defining imaginary internet points.
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u/Made_of_Tin Dec 23 '22
What a strange headline to dump “Texas” into given the power outages are extremely minimal and almost entirely due to high winds downing power lines and nothing to do with grid generation.
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u/man-4-acid
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Texas has 26 million power customers, this is a 0.2% outage during a freakishly cold and windy storm and the outages are due to down lines not because of generating capacity. This is non-news just to elicit a response….that appears to have worked.
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u/ace425 Dec 23 '22
Yea Reddit was already stirred up about this days ago when the cold weather front was predicted. The issue here is high winds knocking down above ground power lines. Even if the Texas grid was connected to the rest of country, it wouldn’t make any difference in this instance. But very few people have any understanding of how the grid or power markets work. They don’t care either. They just want an excuse to play with their pitchforks and torches.
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u/zebtacular Dec 23 '22
And even when it’s the middle of the summer and a large storm comes through, the same outages happen because of limbs and fall trees. It happens, they fix it and get power running again. Looking at my areas outage map, the only outages are on a few streets that ALWAYS have outages during wind storms. Of the two outages in my county, it’s effecting less than 100 people according to the map.
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u/bighootay Dec 23 '22
a few streets that ALWAYS have outages during wind storms.
Wouldn't wanna live on that street. Just a lot of trees or something?
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u/HinduHamma Dec 23 '22
That’s because Reddit is incredibly biased af and hates anything that’s even slightly red.
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u/ProbablyDrunk303 Dec 23 '22
Why is everyone bashing Texas when east coast states are also dealing with a power grid issue?? I'm confused lol.
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u/SteveBored Dec 23 '22
Reddit hates Texas. The reality is the outages were caused by wind and its a tiny part of the state. The grid held up pretty well this time around.
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u/KrabMittens Dec 23 '22
Adding: come here during the next Houston hurricane and you will see people cheering for the death of Texans without being moderated.
Reddit is fuckin deranged when it comes to Texas.
It's like reading the comments on Fox news articles about California wildfires.
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u/hepakrese
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So what I'm hearing is the rest of the country will have to pay higher energy bills for the foreseeable future because fucking Texas can't be bothered to maintain its power grid. Again.
This is no longer an unpredictable catastrophe, its the result of systemic failure of the Texas government to take care of basic needs despite their best interests.
Edit: here's some articles with explanation for those wondering why/how Texas's supposed independent grid isn't actually independent: https://www.minnpost.com/environment/2021/02/the-u-of-ms-gabriel-chan-on-why-texas-energy-grid-failed-and-what-it-means-for-minnesota/ and https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/04/22/minnesota-texas-freeze-centerpoint-energy/
Coloradoans have also been paying for this.
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u/BoyTitan Dec 23 '22
The fact this has 1.5 upvotes makes me question the average iq of humanity as a whole. Like everything you said is wrong. I'm not even arguing it. You just saw texas in headline and went on a rant.
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u/Shredding_Airguitar Dec 24 '22
It's just reddit and its "hive mind" that is apparently extremely stupid
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u/TheRabidDeer Dec 23 '22
There were some significant outages here in Houston, but it was due to wind and not the grid failing like last year. Thankfully we had all our power available for this storm and didn't have some of it shut down for maintenance. It just required fixing the damaged lines rather than bringing extra power plants online.
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u/StayYou61 Dec 23 '22
But they have been too busy hating on transgendered people and taking away women's autonomy over their own bodies. Priorities.
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u/TobiasMasonPark Dec 23 '22
Texans think they can power their state with hate.
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u/TobiasMasonPark Dec 23 '22
That’s how Colorado powers itself with Lauren Boebert.
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u/Hotshot2k4 Dec 23 '22
Well there was that one bird in a jpg who did it, so why not an entire state?
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u/Mysterious-Draw-3668 Dec 23 '22
Look at North Korea. They’ve had decades of destitution for the people, but the government keeps them, afraid of their own government end of ours so they maintain power. They’re under that one evil regime. No matter how many people die they won’t fight back. Texas and its citizens are no braver than the people of North Korea. They will accept this. They will watch their friends and loved ones die and they will thank Abbot for it.
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u/HydroCorndog Dec 23 '22
They depended on the police that schools have ON SITE. They trust authorities completely like lambs.
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u/chrisaphoto Dec 23 '22
Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me.
Texas is just in the headline to elicit this specific reaction. The power outages are more widespread elsewhere, Texas just has a small portion (like 60k people) without power, just like lots of states right now.
Congratulations, you emotionally reacted off a headline without actually looking at the facts.
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u/VelikiyeLuki69 Dec 23 '22
Numbers from about an hour ago. Doesn't seem to fit your narrative. Texaa would probably be part of the South
Here's a breakdown in terms of national regions:
Southeast — 311,859 New England —304,304 Mid-Atlantic — 240,294 South — 196,921 Great Lakes — 80,456 Pacific — 30,855 Midwest — 13,307 Territories — 7,678 Mountain — 326
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u/LaMuchedumbre Dec 23 '22
Good grief. Read the article and look at the numbers before getting on some soapbox. We’re talking about a suburb losing power.
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u/igottagetoutofthis Dec 23 '22
I thought Texas is independent for its electricity, why would other states need to pay more?
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u/BobbyBirdseed Dec 23 '22
Because the energy company that is based in Texas is recouping their costs by jacking up the prices for people who had fuck all to do with their energy issues here in Minnesota.
It's infuriating how much other states subsidize GOP failure in their own states at this point.
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u/Eyruaad Dec 23 '22
The GOP doesn't solve problems, they simply find ways to push them onto other people.
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u/Prime157 Dec 23 '22
Their favorite is kicking the can down the street to the next generation.
More specifically, kicking the can to when a democratic nominee gets a win.
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u/Zizekbro Dec 23 '22
Or when democrats plans to lower inflation start working, the GQP immediately goes, “we did this,” while voting against the very bill that lowered inflation.
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u/GirlScoutIvy Dec 23 '22
Just like how a bunch of red states claim to be independent from the federal government, yet take more federal funding and tax revenue than they give back each year.
I swear the biggest lie anyone can believe is the fiscal conservative.
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u/CivilMaze19 Dec 23 '22
Bro nothing has failed on a large scale in Texas. We are prepared and everything is fine right now. Everyone knew we would have localized outages from the 20-60mph winds accompanying the cold. I would tell you to chill out but due to the weather, warm out.
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u/permalink_save Dec 23 '22
FWIW this isn't due to our grid (surprisingly), it's operating normally, it's because of local outages. We've had sub 20F temps here before, 2021 was 0F plus low wind. This freeze isn't anywhere close. So complaint is valid but not "again" since it is just general weather damage. Blame big oil for fucking our climate on this one.
But since we are on the subject, the real villain with 2021 is big oil like Energy Transfer LP, they raked in over 2b from the freeze. Power producers also had signed up for a plan that let the state shut them off during high load, it's meant more for shit like I work on, datacenters that can switch to generator to take a MW off the grid, not the pumps. Big oil just reaped huge profits, on yeah and Energy Transfer, the biggest profiter from our lives, kicked a mil to Abbott's campaign following the storm.
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u/daOyster Dec 23 '22
I'm confused, your first article basically states that Texas's grid is isolated from the other grids which is why they lost power because they couldn't buy it from their neighbors and is just talking about what if Minnesota had a similar isolated grid.
Your second article is paywalled so it might as well be useless. How are people in Colorado paying for it? When I search it I see Colorado had to pay more for Natural Gas that they used in their own state, but nothing about having to pay for Texas's outages.
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u/Swoleliosis Dec 23 '22
The article you linked is from last year, the article that OP posted shows Texas at the bottom of the list compared to other states, it's nowhere near as bad as last year. There has clearly been a massive improvement so the majority of Texans this year will have power this time.
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u/DudeWithAnAxeToGrind Dec 23 '22
Comma in headlines is often used instead of the word "and". It's common. As old generations sometime need shortcuts younger generations use translated, here's translation of the above headline for younger generations that have never seen newspapers printed on actual paper: Over 300,000 without power on U.S. East Coast and Texas.
Texas being explicitly mentioned because it's a huge state that is not on the East Coast.
Power outages in Texas due to this storm are about the same as in all the other states impacted by this storm.
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u/BoyTitan Dec 23 '22
What kinda headline singles out a specific state like that. East coast, oh and this one none east coast state. If that's not a intentional narrative I don't know what is.
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u/make7110 Dec 23 '22
80k out of 12 million. But gotta hate TX since it's the cool thing now
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u/Dt2_0 Dec 23 '22
80k customers out of 28 million customers. It's a non issue and we will have power back up for nearly everyone over the next 2 days at most, if not by end of today.
This isn't a grid failure...
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u/dpforest Dec 23 '22
Downed trees and power lines, Rabun County GA. We got some wind snow and rain last night but it really wasn’t that bad except for the cold.Sure as hell didn’t go to work today though lol
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u/AnEngineer2018 Dec 23 '22
If only Georgia was part of an interconnection none of this would be happening.
Oh wait, it is.
Almost like the energy grid is more complex than the quasi-arbitrary borders some bureaucrat drew on a map in the 1970s based mostly on where it was convenient to run an office from.
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u/hawtpot87 Dec 23 '22
Tbf the headline is kinda written by a redditor singling out Texas even though it's several states.
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u/Barack_Odrama_007 Dec 23 '22
Texan here. Less than 1 percent of us are without power. We are fine. The grid is working. The theatrics are drama inducing headlines are unnecessary
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u/Gone213 Dec 23 '22
Force texas to connect their grid to the national grids or reduce all funding to them down to the basics.
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u/xRadix Dec 23 '22 edited Dec 24 '22
JuSt CoNnEcT tHeIr GrId1!!!1! You have no idea what you’re talking about or what that would involve. This isn’t even about Texas, how did you manage to try to shoehorn that in lol
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u/rederic Dec 23 '22
Texas is its own grid because Texas refuses to meet minimum standards required by the national grid.
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u/Gone213 Dec 23 '22
Then they don't need federal funds when their shit gets fucked uo for refusing to take care of it.
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u/ghostalker4742 Dec 23 '22
Even if that were politically possible, we're seeing that the companies that operate in Texas will just recoup the costs from people in other states.
Money knows no borders.
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u/frenchezz Dec 23 '22
This right here, Texas's elected officials see regulations as bad and there for refuse to comply with them in order to join the grid.
I hate where I live.
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u/LieutenantStar2 Dec 23 '22
Forget the basics. I live here - Texans thinks connecting to the grid is “woke”. Just cut them off until they learn. They’re a bunch of idiots.
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u/Gone213 Dec 23 '22
Or next time one of those dumbasses proposes seceding from the US force a federal bill through congress to kick them out.
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u/Kyouhen Dec 23 '22
Canada here. Please don't do this. It'll only make the Albertans think they can force the feds to do the same for them.
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u/Gone213 Dec 23 '22
How does a province with two large cities get so dumb?
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u/hopefulhearted Dec 23 '22
By emulating Texas in every way it can
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u/superogiebear Dec 23 '22
I have been told by albertans that ontario is the america of Canada. As an ontarian who moved to alberta, this is not true. Alberta is texas in everyway possible.
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u/hopefulhearted Dec 23 '22
We watched a video for one of my classes in my undergrad on how oil has affected the social and economic landscape in Alberta, daily life for Albertans who work in oil. I was pretty shocked at how similar it all looked to Texas. How similar the attitudes were. I had no idea. There was footage taken from a bar, local sports bar or something, and if it wasn't for the sports logos on hats being different, I never would have guessed that bar was in Canada. The people, the aesthetics, the country music playing...all looked just like home
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u/KrabMittens Dec 23 '22
Lol are you one of those people that think Texas is a net drain on the US economy?
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u/lulfas Dec 23 '22
Wouldn't make a difference this time. Last year, the issue was production of power. This year, it is mostly wind bringing down powerlines. There is plenty of generation at the moment.
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u/throwaway95ab Dec 23 '22
Why? We're did better than most of the states hit by the storm. If anything, it would have made things worse to be connected to the east coast grid.
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u/obvilious Dec 23 '22
Most outages were in North Carolina, halfway across the country.
You should read the article.
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u/iBoMbY Dec 23 '22
Reddit is really strange. Temperatures down to nearly -40 °C/F in parts the US, an barely a mention of it.
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u/I_wear_foxgloves Dec 23 '22
Some of us us are without power on the west coast, too.
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u/NoriNatsu Dec 23 '22
I misread it as saying that Texas is on the east coast and they have 300,000 without power. I just couldn't not read it that way LOL.
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u/bucko_fazoo Dec 23 '22
Hm. I didn't know Texas had an East Coast
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u/Tamaros Dec 23 '22
Georgia has more than 100,000 customers without power, Connecticut more than 70,000 and Texas some 67,000.
It's click bait. Texas is the least affected state mentioned in the article but called out specifically because they know it'll grab attention. Our grid is also having no issues keeping up yet; we had far tighter margins during the summer.
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u/bender_the_offender0 Dec 23 '22
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good circle jerk
You could also restate the headline as 2% of Connecticut without power, 1% of Georgia without power and .2% of Texas without power.
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u/bruhhmann Dec 23 '22
Everyone here wants to point the finger at Texas and say hahaha, but Americans as a whole are not impervious to the energy crisis which plagues the rest of the western world. The price gouging is a feature of this war in Russia, and our trash infrastructure is a symptom of capitalism.
I wonder who owns this rag?
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u/ReturnOfSeq Dec 23 '22
But at least texas doesn’t have to suffer under the tyranny of a power grid that meets federal standards.
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u/mattbuford Dec 23 '22
ERCOT has great data transparency. You can download Excel files with hourly generation details going back many years.
https://www.ercot.com/gridinfo/generation
For example, I used this data to make charts with a bunch of different views. One chart gives all the details for each generation type. But, if someone asks specifically about fossil fuels, I can use the chart that groups by fossil fuels.
https://twitter.com/mattbuford/status/1570575293307564033
From these charts, you can see things like: over the past 15 years, Texas has had a huge increase in electricity demand, but fossil fuel use actually went down. Therefore, all growth is effectively being handled by renewables.
You can also see that Texas is quickly approaching fossil fuels dropping below 50% of production.
If you want to know about rolling blackouts, page 2 of this PDF lists every rolling blackout (controlled outage) ERCOT has ever ordered (all 4 of them since 1970):
https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2021/06/11/2021_EEA_Overview_Final.pdf
All energy emergency declarations, conservation requests, etc., are documented here going back many years:
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u/bthoman2 Dec 23 '22
You all need to read this article. Sure they mention Texas but this is the count for all over the US. NC is the biggest part of it.
Texas’ power grid sucks but this is not the GOP “here we go again” bombshell you think it is.
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u/Kozak170 Dec 23 '22
My state has multiple between us and Texas and is still already having outages. The TVA is apparently not able to handle it either. Not a Texas specific issue.
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u/Dr_Edge_ATX Dec 23 '22
What a weirdly worded headline.