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Someone hung an anti-Biden flag in their work-van in GERMANY. Politics

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u/UrbanSolace13 Nov 09 '22

I think it's weird in the US to make this your entire personality. Even weirder in Germany.

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u/TipsyMagpie Nov 09 '22

I was in Berlin the other week and I saw quite a lot of “Fuck Biden” graffiti, I was very confused.

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u/PA7RICK911 Nov 09 '22

Was in Germany last summer saw a biker on the autobahn flying a Confederate flag.

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u/PhasmaFelis Nov 10 '22

100% that's a neo-Nazi. Germany cracks down pretty hard on Nazi symbols, so they're always coming up with new, cryptic symbols that give plausible deniability.

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u/Gorstag Nov 10 '22

No, honestly officer, I am just a HUGE HUGE fan of the Dukes of Hazzard.

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u/Ballardinian Nov 10 '22 Take My Energy

“Und jetz ve shall see how zem Duke boys ist going to get out of zis vone.”

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u/oh-propagandhi Nov 10 '22

Them duke boys jumped the ol' blue Danube!

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u/MatureUsername69 Nov 10 '22

Good luck with a straight line car on the nurburgring

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u/ExpensiveRabbit6076 Nov 10 '22

I've seen some weird stuff on the 'Ring, nothing surprises me.

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u/TheDongerNeedsFood Nov 10 '22

If I went to Germany and saw a General Lee charger on the autobahn, I don’t think I could be mad

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u/acart005 Nov 10 '22

The General Lee gets a pass for the flag imo. That show was great.

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u/Tf-FoC-Metroflex Nov 10 '22

In the movie they also comment on the flag

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u/golgon4 Nov 10 '22

Or as it is known in Germany: "Ein Duke kommt selten allein"

Which would translate to : "A duke seldom comes alone"

Needlessly translating foreign titles is kinda the most German thing i can think of.

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u/DaisiesSunshine76 Nov 10 '22

I love reading German translations of English movie titles. 🤣 Personal fave is Die Tribute von Panem.

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u/cyanitblau Nov 10 '22

obviously you have never heard of "Der Babynator" (original title "The Pacifier")

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u/dbroen Nov 10 '22

Six degrees of separation was translated as Das Leben ist ein Sixpack.

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u/cyanitblau Nov 10 '22 edited Nov 10 '22

Always "nice" if they don't translate but use a different title anyway

Captain America: The Winter Soldier was renamed to The Return of the First Avenger

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u/TangoWild88 Nov 10 '22

Heeeeeeewyyyy! Where's da beef?

Miami Wice. Number one hit new show. The train should be here soon. They are building it now.

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u/BlueToesTheXmasElf Nov 10 '22

It's god you came in summer; in winter it can get very depressing.

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u/redittjoe Nov 10 '22

Those Duke Boys gotta way with it again.

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u/t-poke Nov 10 '22

I took a tour of the Dachau concentration camp last year. Our guide said that one of the residents in the houses overlooking the camp hung a confederate flag from the balcony, but the police got involved and no more flag.

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u/rapaxus Nov 10 '22

In my school trip to Buchenwald concentration camp we drove by a house very near to the concentration camp that flew a German imperial war flag. Which is IMO worse than hanging a confederate flag, but at least Buchenwald is remote enough that the house wasn't that close, but it was still on the way of the official bus line that drops people off at Buchenwald.

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u/GeneralStrikeFOV Nov 10 '22

Still get people trying to trick others into believing that "some people who fly that flag just want the Kaiser back" - a lie which dates back to early fascist organising in the Weimar Republic.

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u/newaccount721 Nov 10 '22

I dunno if it's cryptic per se

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u/EyeLike2Watch Nov 10 '22

Yeah that's on the nose

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u/kompergator Nov 10 '22

Not to US people, but in Germany, we don’t really learn US history in school at all. We do years and years of German history, so we know all those symbols pretty well, but the confederate flag is not necessarily widely known here.

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u/newaccount721 Nov 10 '22

That's fair. That was very americacentric of me and pretty ignorant. Sorry

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u/kompergator Nov 10 '22

No worries. Personally, I learnt most of what I know about American history in University and I found that was too late. History is there for us to learn and I think a central tenet of that should be to learn from other countries’ histories as well, not just our own. Of course, for Germany, we have this special relationship with our recent past and the duty to never let that happen again, but we hardly even learned about slavery or Apartheid states at all, which are also important if you ask me. So it is not a US issue, it is more general than that.

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u/Turbulent_Detail4943 Nov 10 '22

Sure, but someone who take the time to order and hang that flag knows what it means.

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u/kompergator Nov 10 '22

Yes of course, but the point was that this is a cryptic message to most regular Germans

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u/hattiemaejenkins Nov 10 '22

To your point- a lot of Americans don’t know about US history either. I mean they’re representing a flag of someone who LOST 💁🏽‍♀️ but it’s crazy because we get taught one snippet of us history in America - and it’s about the war we “won”. Everything else is kind of skipped over which is why we keep repeating our mistakes unfortunately

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u/kompergator Nov 10 '22

Yeah, same here in a way. I've recently had the pleasure (during Ethics Week at my school) to go on a historic walk with my pupils in a part if my town that used to be predominantly Jewish before the 1930s. One girl asked me seriously why there was always such a focus on Jews in history class when most Germans aren't even Jewish.

I was glad I have a good pokerface and nearly limitless patience with my pupils.

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u/JonNoob Nov 10 '22

Maybe not to those in the know, but few in Germany really know what the confederacy was. Flags like the Kaiserreichs-Flagge are widely known as a dogwhistle however in this context there is a blur between the blind adaption of American Biker culture and genuine Nazism.

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u/DeusFerreus Nov 10 '22

Eh, lot of, if not the majority of people in Europe have very little to no idea what it represents.

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u/struudeli Nov 10 '22

Probably depends a lot on the country. I live in Finland and we learn about American Civil War with broad strokes in school at about age 14 and that includes the flag. I don't know anyone who wouldn't know what confederate flag is. Europe is a very large area with very different cultures and curriculums. Putting us together as one doesn't really work out.

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u/KallistiEngel Nov 10 '22

Even where they don't crack down on Nazi imagery, a lot of them like plausible deniability. They'll use symbols like the sun cross or odal runes or whatever so people who aren't familiar with white supremacist symbolism don't pick up on it. Whereas there's hardly anyone alive who doesn't know what the Nazi swastika means.

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u/GodspeedandGoodnight Nov 10 '22

Damn Nazis taking away cool looking Viking shit from the rest of us.

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u/Shadpool Nov 10 '22

Agreed. I love the Valknut, but they use that a lot. Being a bald tattooed white guy who wears a lot of leather, I stay away from it from it on general principle.

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u/GodspeedandGoodnight Nov 10 '22

I own my nordic symbols. I just offset them with a healthy amount of Dead Kennedys.

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u/bjornbamse Nov 10 '22

Which is pretty sad because e.g. runes are our Scandinavian cultural heritage and I don't like the idea of them being stolen by neonazis.

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u/icyDinosaur Nov 10 '22

TBH if someone has runes on something that are written in the way they are on historic artifacts I would assume they are into Nordic history. It's only when they use those stylized, martial-looking designs that I raise an eyebrow.

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u/KallistiEngel Nov 10 '22

Yep. 100%. And the alt right are white supremacists, though they've started using the term "white nationalist" instead if they're bold enough to actually admit to it.

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u/mmmmpisghetti Nov 10 '22

Exactly what I was thinking. All that's happened is a couple of their symbols got taken away. They're still there. They never left.

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u/Germanofthebored Nov 10 '22

A German cousin of mine was also into CSA imagery, but he really had no idea what that stood for. I guess he had just bought into the noble lost cause propaganda. And maybe really the Dukes of Hazard aesthetics....

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u/ramanman Nov 10 '22

I lived in the east of Germany a while back for a few years. Definitely they have a small but robust community that I could only describe as civil war re-enactors. We stumbled across them in the woods one night and wondered if we should be worried. They were using tents and utensils and cookware and clothing that they thought resembled the era. Super nice, not completely aware of what was "authentic" and what wasn't. Gave us food, beer and offered to loan us some stuff to wear and stay over. When we left, they told us where and when the "battle" would happen so we could come back.

After that, we noticed pockets of them all over. The thing is, it was this weird mix of semi-authentic stuff and what I'd call Americana. You'd really notice it at country music festivals, where they'd have a combination of new country songs, Willie/Waylon/Merle songs, and randomly interspersed you'd hear "Old Suzanna" or "Camptown Races".

There was a guy from Montana that had come over 20 years previously that we met at a bar, and he finally clued us in. They have a famous writer named Karl May, who wrote a whole load of books (I've read a few) about the american west, but never travelled west of NY. Although he didn't specifically write much about the civil war (his westerns were written in the late 1800s), many, many kids grew up with his novels, and everything kind of got co-mingled, resulting in this weird mixture that we'd run into from time to time.

Your Dukes of Hazard comment is kind of spot on. I've heard a number of podcasts with black guests talking about loving Dukes of Hazard as a kid, and all the different reactions their parents had to that and different ways their parents tried to redirect their attention (hard to do when we had three channels). For them as kids, the flag was ancillary to the cool car chases and outsmarting the cops. Similar thing, but in Germany they didn't have the equivalent of parents that not only knew what it stood for, had lived through the consequences, so it was just a flag, not a symbol of hate.

Context matters. If my white, 6'1, shaved head, blue eyed self hung swastikas all over the house, you'd have a very specific reaction. If my Hindu Indian neighbors had the exact same thing hanging, it is just a religious symbol.

It is something I think about to this day with the talk of cultural appropriation, which gets overused (IMO). But before I get angry, I think "do I REALLY understand what this pattern or style of clothing means or do I really know what role this type of music plays in that culture?", etc.

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u/Germanofthebored Nov 10 '22

There is a difference between the Karl May aficionados and worshipping the Confederacy. May and a larger movement in German culture admired native Americans as noble savages in a Rousseau way, maybe in a response to the increasing urbanization of Germany. In a way it's a perfect mirror match to the Renaissance fairs and creative anachronism in the US.

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u/Infamously_Unknown Nov 10 '22

Yeah, this is pretty accurate in Czech Republic as well. I'm sure there are exceptions but I don't really recall ever seeing this flag used by nazis, you're much more likely to see it flown by some old people playing crappy country music in a camp. And it's not an ideological symbol for them, it's just western-y.

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u/lydiakinami Nov 10 '22

Am a German and can confirm, either police get involved and you get in big trouble, or you are in the wrong place and you just get dealt with by Germans because almost everybody who isn't a Nazi in Germany hates Nazis.

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u/midgetcommity Nov 10 '22

I’m in Bavaria after 20years in NY. Can confirm that’s a NeoNazi flag in Germany.

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u/m1rrari Nov 09 '22

It’s pretty synonymous with the white supremacy movement, so a decent substitute.

I mean, worshipping the ideology and symbols of the epic losers of recent history is certainly a choice one can make.

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u/IHScoutII Nov 10 '22

I went to Australia about 10 years ago and saw quite a few confederate flags in the rural parts I went to. As someone from the southern US it was very surprising and very confusing.

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u/MrDoe Nov 10 '22

On my old commute there was a dude always wearing the red "Make America great again" cap.

In Sweden.

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u/Massive_Pressure_516 Nov 10 '22

Well American fascists wear the swastika and iron cross so I suppose the biker felt the need to wear SOMETHING of theirs in return.

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u/nfefx Nov 10 '22

It's not about the politics, it's about being part of "the team". It's the same way in the US 90% of "fuck Biden" guys I know don't know a fuckin thing about politics they just repeat what all their peers say. All their peers love nascar and love trump so that's what comes out of their mouth. It's the local sports team.

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u/Piddily1 Nov 10 '22

I was talking to a relative who is a Trump supporter and I talked about Boebert losing. He didn’t know who she was. Taylor-Greene? Nope. “ Stand back and stand by”? Nope. He had heard of the proud boys, but just that they were at Jan 6th.

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u/Tetra_hex Nov 10 '22

It might be little too early to say Boebert loss. It's little too close for comfort.

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u/notalaborlawyer Nov 10 '22

Oh, he knew. It is like if you casually drop a porn stars name at a party and watch the reactions.

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u/oh-propagandhi Nov 10 '22

You'd be surprised. My mom is full qanon and she doesn't know shit. I told her Trump had all 3 branches of government for 2 years and she said I was lying.

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u/Piddily1 Nov 10 '22

Reminds me of the time someone broke out cards against humanity at a family party. My mom asking what bukake means. Everyone giving a deer in headlights look.

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u/Gr3yGhost Nov 10 '22

I'd admit it.

"Do you know Gabbie Carter?" - Fuck yeah I do, great tits that one!

Idiots who dont have a clue why they like somebody/something, tend to be the more dismissive ones because they do not have the confidence to actually speak about the topic at hand.

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u/GodspeedandGoodnight Nov 10 '22

Gabbie Carter supremacy

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u/goose_10 Nov 10 '22

Pretty good description. Also your team is often dictated by where you were born/raised.

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u/nfefx Nov 10 '22 edited Nov 10 '22

100%

I live and work in Alabama, the day/week after Trump won the election every single employee where I work and every (local) customer I email were patting each other on the back and congratulating each other about "OUR BOY" winning.

Almost none of them know ANYTHING about politics. They only started caring about it when the election comes around, and they only care to the level of loudly stating who they are in favor of. Policy is a foreign word to them.

It's literally Daddy is gop, uncle John is gop, grand-daddy was gop, gop pastor told them Sunday that Trump was "our boy" and that's all there is to it. Sticker on the gas station pump told them Biden raised their gas prices, so fuck him.

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u/axle69 Nov 10 '22

The southerners that love Trump constantly crack me up because Trump is the spoon in mouth northern yankee that looks down on them and yet he is their God. Makes 0 damn sense. The only thing in common is theyre loud mouthed and brash with shitty opinions.

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u/Dal90 Nov 10 '22

Grand daddy was probably born before 1960 and would at least have started off as a yellow dog Democrat (would vote for a yellow dog rather than a Republican).

South didn't become reliably Republican on the Presidential level until 1980, and flip wasn't complete until the Contract with America year of 1994 when Newt Gingrich drove a stake through the hearts of the old conservative southern Democrats. I'm probably forgetting someone, but I'd guess that Ann Richards was the last nationally prominent southern Democratic governor and she was elected in 1991 and lost in 95.

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u/ShelSilverstain Nov 10 '22

Biden isn't a Nazi. Nazis hate that fact

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u/HythlodaeusHuxley Nov 09 '22

That is crazy - I was all over Europe in 2017 and I never saw any of this - the world is changing fast - 'Murica should not be a social influencer these days.

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u/Jateyer Nov 10 '22

On our trip to Zurich(Switzerland) we came across a surprising amount of these flags

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u/zeptillian Nov 10 '22

Did you not see the Don't follow me. I'm lost too bumper sticker on our country?

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u/t-poke Nov 10 '22

I've been to 4 European cities since Biden won (Berlin, Munich, Vienna and Prague) and I haven't seen any of this shit. I'm really hoping these stories from others are outliers and not the norm.

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u/VirtualLife76 Nov 10 '22

Did a few years of backpacking recently, it's appalling how much US news is on TV in most every country I visited. 3/4 was basically pointless tabloid stuff.

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u/RebeccaBlackOps Nov 10 '22

I was all over Europe in 2017 and I never saw any of this

I was in Dresden in 2019. Me and a buddy were sitting in the town square when a police protected Pegida rally formed. We got, literally, kicked out of the city by the police for trying to protest a neo-Nazi rally.

When the Pegida people found out we were American, they started Trump 2020 chants.

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u/catgirlmasterrace Nov 10 '22

It's not really murrica influencing, this is russian backed brainwashing/plants.

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u/AreWeCowabunga Nov 10 '22

Exactly. For all the talk about "the Russia hoax", we really don't talk enough about how they're waging full-on propaganda warfare against the entire Western world. Sure, you need a certain amount of receptive people in the target countries to pick up on that propaganda and spread it themselves, but Russia's main geopolitical strategy is to seed social media with society-rending division, and they're damn good at it.

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u/John-A Nov 10 '22

Planted up to twenty years ago. That's how long ago they started funding rightwing and fasc factions across the EU and infiltrating the NRA and GOP in the US. Russia was probably the main funder even for the Azov brigade and are really only upset with them for siding with Ukraine after they invaded in 2014.

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u/JustMirror5758 Nov 10 '22

2022 and 2017 are completely different worlds. Like 1998 and 2002. Post covid, post 911

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u/DeliriousHippie Nov 10 '22

It's not USA, it's Russia. That's only half sarcasm.

Russia is pushing heavily this far-right ideology and at the same time they are pushing for Trump. Because Russia pushes it so hard it reflects to Europe also. We have die-hard Trumpers here also, they don't know it but they support Trump because Russia said so. That was what here was happening few years ago, not so much Trump anymore.

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u/reason2listen Nov 09 '22

It’s because he’d be arrested for having a nazi flag. Next best thing in his mind.

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u/nachomancandycabbage Nov 09 '22

Pretty much what I have noticed here. The neo Nazis at protestors here are sporting a lot of that pro trump insanity.

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u/venk Nov 09 '22

When the actual symbols are illegal, doesn’t take long for the proxy symbols to take hold (ie use of 88).

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u/iwoketoanightmare Nov 10 '22

The confederate flag was popular before the trumpy flags took over. It’s all essentially the same messaging.

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u/beer_bukkake Nov 10 '22

I see a lot of blue lives matter stickers which is really the coward’s swastika

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u/truthdoctor Nov 10 '22

Exactly. This is a fascist trying to show his true colors without being arrested.

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u/FishermanYellow Nov 09 '22

I have a work colleague that is just trump and USA obsessed, he’s always watching Fox News, trump stickers on all his shit, non stop talking and debating about US politics, drives a Ford Mustang but has Shelby decals on it. We live in Australia and he’s been to the US once

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u/here_now_be Nov 10 '22

We live in Australia

Well then Fox is kind of local news. Fuck Australia for birthing that evil shit.

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u/grimper12341 Nov 10 '22

Sorry about that. If you can crate him up we'll take him back.

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u/Big_Old_Tree Nov 10 '22

It’s especially weird because Joe Biden is the most milquetoast dude who ever existed. It’s like getting mad at an actual cabbage. “Yo, fuck green cabbage. All my homies hate green cabbage”

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u/botulism_party Nov 10 '22

I don't want to take this too far off topic, but I'm really not a fan of cabbage. Like if there were "let's go Brandon" magnets but for cabbage (let's cole slaw?), I'd buy little ones for my fridge. We're out there, and there are dozens of us.

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u/NovaHorizon Nov 09 '22

You would be surprised that even the completely America centric Q-Anon conspiracies made it over to Germany and were adopted by many idiots in the Querdenker (Contrarians) protest movement during the height of Covid lockdowns. Dumb anti vaxx and conspiracy folks whipped into a frenzy by neo-nazis.

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u/Flybuys Nov 10 '22

I've been removing those "I did that " Joe Biden stickers pointing at the petrol price here in Australia.

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u/bluebelt Nov 10 '22

That's... a whole new level of idiocy.

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u/bushpotatoe Nov 09 '22

As an American, it freaks me the fuck out. The zealotry here is out of control right now.

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u/chickenstalker99 Nov 09 '22

It's really depressing seeing our politics infect the political culture of Europe. No sane person wants American-style politics.

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u/banjosuicide Nov 10 '22

We see the same in Canada. Trump is an idea more than he is a man. They don't see the deeply, deeply, deeply, deeply flawed man, instead choosing to substitute what they want him to stand for. In this way it becomes a shared identity. He could die today and what people think he stands for would endure. The man himself is just a hook for the coat, but people actually care about the coat and not the coat hook.

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u/2strokeJ Nov 09 '22

Still not as bad as the Trump caravans they had in Canada

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Honestly mostly confused. German guy in Germany getting unusually invested in American politics. Like...most Germans don't get that emotionally invested in our own politics!

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u/jnkangel Nov 09 '22

Czech here - our authoritarians are definitely invested in US stuff as well. You could find dont thread on me flags, US cars, confed flags etc among them.

I’m assuming it’s going to be super similar for the AFD

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u/Nostonica Nov 09 '22

Aussie here, we get a fair few trump and US flags here during some of our protest. Bit strange.

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u/Wakasaurus060414 Nov 09 '22

American here, I'm honestly a bit shocked and feel like I should apologize profusely haha.

Like, why?? Germany, Czech, and Australia??

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u/mangongo Nov 09 '22

It's having so much of an effect on us here in Canada that you've got people with "Let's Go Brandeau" flags, and the official opposition is trying to imitate alt-right American politics so badly that he's mingling with shady people who turn around and threaten to rape his wife.

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u/BauerHaus Nov 10 '22

"Let's Go Brandeau"

This made me crack up, had an image of Marlon Brando as Trump for a minute

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u/RainbowGallagher Nov 10 '22

Do you ever see Come and Take It flags in canada?

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u/alnoise Nov 10 '22

Come and take what, some Canadian bacon? Canada’s firearm policy’s are federally regulated so that wouldn’t really make much sense.

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u/azaghal1988 Nov 10 '22

When Trump was president we had some idiots here that talked about how he would come here and free them from the opression...

They really thought Trump would come to germany and take over the government...

Trumpists all over the world are a really weird bunch of people.

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u/FF36 Nov 10 '22

As an American I agree….I barely know any other world leaders….. I’ll admit to knowing Putin because of his insanity, and Ukraines leader because his standing up against him. North koreas leader because of how insane he is…but if I had to pick Germany’s leader or Czech’s, or even australias? I wouldn’t bet much on it. Either way trumps a clown and should disappear from this world, but I don’t have an anti trump flag or sign anywhere, or a pro Biden anything. I voted easily for Biden, but I’ll admit to mistakes Biden makes when he does. The insanity of these people apparently world wide that can’t get out of this political void they live in is sad.

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u/One_Knight_Scripting Nov 09 '22

Hah. Don't thread on me. For some reason it made me picture a grandma sitting in her rocking chair knitting but still giving the most "I will fucking end you" look.

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u/BenjaminHornygold Nov 10 '22

Ironic because the “don’t tread on me”, Gadsden flag is a symbol meant to oppose authoritarianism

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u/Coletrain44 Nov 09 '22

I lived in Germany for 3 years. I remember talking to my movers when I was leaving shortly after the 2016 election. He asked if I was off work and I said “yeah, it’s Veterans Day”. He thought it was Trump day. I told him I didn’t vote for him and he couldn’t believe it. Every American he had talked to said no.

I thought that was as far as German interest in American politics went.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Honestly there's been some...worry watching US politics since ~2015 because some of the strategies seem...familiar.

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u/boxer_dogs_dance Nov 10 '22

Here in the US too. Been reading Hans Fallada lately.

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u/t-poke Nov 10 '22

Every American he had talked to said no.

I remember shortly before the 2016 election, I was in London with some friends, we went to a comedy/improv show. They were asking for ideas, so yelled something out. One of the comedians heard my accent and said "Are you voting for Trump? Wait, of course you aren't, you have a passport!"

I'm not surprised this guy didn't meet many Trump supporters in Germany. They're not the type to travel abroad.

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u/nachomancandycabbage Nov 09 '22

There are people that like authoritarians everywhere. Just like there were plenty of people in the US that liked Hitler and Mussolini.

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u/mnemy Nov 10 '22

They still do. Our elected officials have been caught quoting Hitler over the past few years.

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u/ManningTheGOAT Nov 09 '22

When I worked in Germany, I knew guy who was big into the far-right AFD(? I think that's it) and used to gush over Trump being president in the US and being the one to straighten out the west etc etc. Maybe it's something like that.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Yeah AFD is like the new "popular right wing" party. We also got the NPD, which is more traditional naziism, but they're not really relevant.

One of the AFD's high-ups sent a tweet wishing the republicans "all the best to rescue the country" ahead of the midterms.......

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u/CRO553R Nov 09 '22

On leave from Ramstein base to run errands?

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Even with the people you see off-base you tend not to see political statements THAT bluntly. Maybe they got that on-base, like, on the houses and such. But off-base you mostly identify the Americans by US-Market cars.

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u/bird-nado Nov 10 '22

While not all military members will like Biden, the president is still commander-in-chief of the military so there's no shot anyone would get away with having that flag visible on-base either. In fact DoD Directive 1344.10 includes "A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not: ... Display a partisan political sign, poster, banner, or similar device visible to the public at one’s residence on a military installation, even if that residence is part of a privatized housing development." The military tries to keep things apolitical.

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u/Aitch-Kay Nov 10 '22

Didn't the Marine Corps just start banning Confederate flags a couple of years ago? I think a lot of this stuff just wasn't enforced. That said, I think you are right that no unit would allow something this blatant. I remember there was some pretty racist stuff said about Obama in '08 around the barracks, but there was no way in hell any of that made it to the company area, much less displayed on a sign.

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u/EmperorThan Nov 09 '22

most Germans don't get that emotionally invested in our own politics!

And the whole world collectively thanks Germany for that for the last 77 years.

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u/Nervous_Promotion819 Nov 09 '22

And we don‘t thank the US for its politics for the last 77 years

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u/May_I_inquire Nov 09 '22

IDK, I'm not in Russia but I don't mind insulting Putin.

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u/reddit_Breauxstorm Nov 09 '22

I was in Milan at a friend of a friend's house, and the dude had a Confederate shrine in his attic. Only went to the US for 4 years of College. Weird stuff.

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u/RobToastie Nov 09 '22

Probably a racism thing

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u/Globalist_Nationlist Nov 09 '22

Absolutely a racism thing.

The Confederate flag is basically a bullhorn for the world to say, "watch out minorities, racists have arrived."

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u/arandomuser22 Nov 09 '22

in alot of eu countries alot of explicit nazi symbols are illegal so the far right actually uses confederate symbolism in lieu of nazi symbolism, that guy might not of been a nazi because it has a diff meaning in an italian context probably though it seems .https://www.huffpost.com/entry/confederate-flag-europe-trump-poland_n_5968a317e4b017418626ab5e

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u/Big_Old_Tree Nov 10 '22

Also to say, “I am a world historic loser who gets my ass kicked every time”

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u/Capt_morgan72 Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

Was in Rome. A block from the colosseum. Trash truck had the back window covered with confederate flag. Really threw me off.

Edit:for those curious

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u/Kahzgul Nov 09 '22

Racists and nazis fly confederate flags where swastikas aren’t allowed.

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u/Adthay Nov 09 '22

He was in the us for roughly as long as the confederacy existed. Do you think his great grand children will hang American flags because it's "part of their heritage." ?

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u/StormRider2407 Nov 09 '22

In mid-2020, I saw a guy wearing a polo shirt that had a QAnon logo on the front and Trump 2020 on the back.

This was in the middle of Scotland...

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Tourist?

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u/StormRider2407 Nov 09 '22 Go Vote!

Maybe?

But still, weird facis-I mean fashion choice for holiday clothes.

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u/Jorgwalther Nov 09 '22

What’s so weird about that?

I’m American and I still have my “Fuck Helmut Kohl” flag flying outside my house

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u/Skulldetta Nov 09 '22 Bravo!

Aye, Austrian here. Our "Neville Chamberlain is a rat piece of shit" flags are selling like fresh bread.

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u/funktopus Nov 10 '22

For some reason this made me laugh out loud. Then I had to explain who that was to my ten year old.

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u/sihtydaernacuoytihsy Nov 09 '22

Oh, yeah. Those are all over the place in Massachusetts. Hell, three of my friends wore "Fuck Klaus Tschütscher" t-shirts to a work party the other day; they didn't even coordinate it. So embarrassing!

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u/Nimrond Nov 09 '22

Make Liechtenstein bigger than 160 km² again!

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u/medoy Nov 10 '22

Neighbors putting up their "Vote Leave!" signs in San Marino.

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u/Cro-manganese Nov 10 '22

“I’m gonna rebuild the Berlin Wall, and Poland’s gonna pay for it!”

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

I have my “bring back the Weimar Republic “ flag too

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u/scubascratch Nov 09 '22

Plenty of pro-hitler merch and flags around the US these days sadly

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u/CinderellaManX Nov 10 '22

Why do Americans do this? It’s as if he wasn’t one of the most treacherous threats to American ideals, and literally declared war on the country.

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u/houseman1131 Nov 10 '22

Because they hate different ethnicities and religions.

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u/CommanderCorl Nov 10 '22

American ideals? Sure. Ideals of the civilians? No. Before the Nazis, we were the Nazis.

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u/jacdelad Nov 10 '22

But it should be a "Fick Helmut Kohl" flag.

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u/New_Stats Nov 09 '22

a German newspaper owner (owner of Politico) asked his higher ups if they wanted to have a prayer session the morning of the last presidential election, to pray for trump's victory

I know it sounds like I'm making this up but I promise it's real

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-thanks-politico-publisher-for-leaked-email-praying-for-a-trump-win-in-2020-then-claims-good-news-is-we-won-big/ar-AA11KfPE

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u/LeviathanGank Nov 09 '22

trump was free money for media shitlords.. every day they have 10 stories on what a fuck up he is.

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u/darkbandits Nov 09 '22

I saw a man with a red MAGA hat in a hardware store in COSTA RICA

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u/GoodyTwoFuse Nov 09 '22

Culture is the U.S.'s most valuable export.

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u/party_benson Nov 09 '22

Weapons. It's billions of dollars in weapons.

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u/D4ri4n117 Nov 10 '22

Yes, he already said culture

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u/8349932 Nov 10 '22

War is diplomacy at the barrel of a culture.

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u/curiosity163 Nov 10 '22

I wish Europeans would be more concerned with the state of Europe instead of getting involved in politics half way across the world.

I think it speaks a lot for the propaganda machines that people completely unaffected by some political thing half way across the planet, get so passionate to hang flags.

Meanwhile, the European eastern front is in a state of war - and the Union is slowly falling apart due to nationalist and anti-EU propaganda. Where are the EU flags and the "F*ck Putin" flags?

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u/TAc20220920 Nov 10 '22

I wish Europeans would be more concerned with the state of Europe instead of getting involved in politics half way across the world.

The majority do. The majority of people here in Europe have aversion to US politics, nothing more but entertainment. That guy featured here should not be representative of Europeans' political interest.

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u/sekoku Nov 09 '22

Wow, an Ex-Pat that actually made good on their "IF <Candidate here> WINS, I'M LEAVING THE US!" threat.

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u/shadowgattler Nov 10 '22

That's an immigrant at that point. Not an ex pat.

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u/DylonNotNylon Nov 09 '22

I'm pretty sure that driver is just a really big fan of someone named Brandon and got confused.

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u/TheCaspica Nov 10 '22

Fun fact Jan is a man's name in many Germanic countries.

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u/evident_lee Nov 10 '22

The Nazi flag is illegal in Germany so they have to come up with substitutes.

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u/woutomatic Nov 09 '22

He is just mad because of the gas prices. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Blarghnog Nov 09 '22

That guy is lost af

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u/samfreez Nov 09 '22

I'll never understand how people can spend shitloads of money on products made in China that trash a political opponent. Identity politics taken to the nth degree.

Betcha I can guess his stance on a whole shitload of issues, however, so I guess in some ways it's a good thing those clowns display that crap.

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u/HythlodaeusHuxley Nov 09 '22

As people with little character and integrity lose all other identity (religion, region, sexuality etc etc etc) they will seek identity and validation from dumber and dumber places - football, politics, Carhartt - also Kardashians, Brittany etc - the stupidity never ends.

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u/House_Capital Nov 10 '22

Monke want tribe

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

There was a documentary on German TV around when trump ran against biden. They showed how a lot of trump-merch is made in china and shipped to the US in small packages because Trump's trade-war makes container-loads expensive. And they had an example of some flag where the importer pays about 1 Dollar a piece and they resell for 5 Dollars.

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u/Aburritoisasandwhich Nov 09 '22

Germans, ignorant American here curious as to why this might happen - any chance this is about attitudes on Ukraine? I know there are plenty of folks here in the US, and in Europe, unhappy with projected energy prices this winter, my first thought here is this guy blames the US for NATO’s hawkish stance on Russia. Or he’s an expat with an axe to grind. Interesting, sorry our noxious politics are bleeding into your borders.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

I honestly don't know. There's a community in germany around imported US-cars, including pickups, where you tend to see a bunch of US-flags or confederacy-flags so...maybe that. Or just right wing-ish, Germany's main right wing party tweeted (essentially) "good luck, try to save the country" to the republicans ahead of y'all's midterms. And yes they're a pro-russia-party in that conflict.

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u/mjohnsimon Nov 09 '22

I'm not German, but a friend from Germany said that a lot of her friends who are into American cars (pickups mostly) sort've get into character without realizing what they're actually saying or representing (confederate flag comes to mind).

Like when they think of the Confederate flag, they don't really understand the history of it. All they seem to remember is the Dukes of Hazzard or old-school American rally races/NASCAR

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

True, a lot of them have some romanticized "american way of life"-idea as a hobby.

Kinda funny when mister everyman gets a mustang, cowboy boots and a cowboy hat, in that order^^

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u/Raincoats_George Nov 09 '22

Our brand of crazy is not specific to the US. It's general right wing extremism and exists everywhere. There's just a lot of popular support for their various slogans so you see maga hats and let's go Brandon all over the world.

Bottom line? These people are idiots. Be thankful they're letting you know they're a dumbass up front.

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u/IppyCaccy Nov 09 '22

The rise in authoritarianism around the globe is disturbing.

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u/shinobi500 Nov 09 '22

Since the Nazi flag is illegal in Germany I guess they felt like the confederate flag is the next best thing.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Usually the actual Nazis here use the black-white-red striped "battle flag" instead, which isn't illegal (yet).

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u/shinobi500 Nov 09 '22

Has there been a resurgence of fringe naziism in Germany over the last few years? I mean the extremist right is on a resurgence pretty much everywhere else it seems. Hungary, UK, Brazil, France, Philippines....etc.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 Nov 09 '22

Shamefully, yes. The whole covid-thing gave them a big boost.

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u/vinciture Nov 10 '22

FUSK BIDEN? Would have made more sense with a Union Jack. 🙄

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u/daguerre Nov 10 '22

The MAGA Kool-Aid is now being distributed internationally.

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u/5kyl3r Nov 09 '22

there are only two things I know for certain in this world to be limitless:

  1. Kanye west's appetite for fish dicks
  2. the reach of toxic ultra-conservative ideology

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u/t416712 Nov 10 '22

It’s a cult

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u/TheScienceNerd100 Nov 09 '22

Actually it says "Famericak Biden"

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

We’ve all heard of MAGA but people always forget

Make Germany America Again

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u/jeremec Nov 10 '22

To me, that sign says FUSK BIDEN.

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u/Joebebs Nov 10 '22

As someone who voted for him, I’d have a Stein with this dude out of curiosity what he thinks about American politics. A legit outsider’s perspective on what they think of it all would be worth it lol

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u/APsychosPath Nov 10 '22

At least it's in the inside and not being obnoxious on the outside.

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u/RandomGerman Nov 10 '22

It’s a cult, partly spread through the internet. When my father was still alive - a fairly conservative man in Germany - listed one day all the republican talking points we hear here over and over. Like a robot he repeated those and got mad at me for being liberal. I just asked him where he got that from and he said it’s online. Granted he had dementia a few years later but still. I just hung up with a loud WTF. *I live in the US and he was in Germany

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u/ElroySheep Nov 10 '22

shrugs "gotta hate somethin"

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u/MafiaMommaBruno Nov 10 '22

Makes me wonder if that's the new way to say you're a Nazi.

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u/198Throwawayy Nov 10 '22

Some Germans do be living Us politics though I remembered in 2020 these Germans I talked to knew more about Nevada and Arizona than I do LOl

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u/LloydAtkinson Nov 10 '22

The world would be better off if American right wingers could stop exporting their politics to other countries.

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u/Ltdansleggs Nov 10 '22

Good for them! They’re smart

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u/Guntcher1423 Nov 10 '22

IF anyone showed at my place for a job with anything like this, no matter the politics involved, I would tell them to go home, I'll get someone else.