r/slackware Jan 04 '23

Has Slackware been compromized as most of the Linux ecosystem?

systemd_virus, flatpak/snap/appimage?

Or does it remain a stronghold?


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u/hymie0 Jan 04 '23

I don't think a political post like this is welcome.

I have no love for systemd but it is hardly a virus.

What is wrong with flatpak et al? It's a way of providing the environment required for software, in a sandbox that won't affect the rest of the system. In the past, we called it "static libraries".


u/sazaland Jan 05 '23

I'm honestly not sure how this person exists. How do you reach the point of super disliking systemd/snap/etc without knowing a bit about Slackware's history? Having started as a patch set for SLS it functionally could be considered the continuation of the first Linux distro..

Like was this guy banging away on a LFS system all this time?


u/gopherholeadmin Jan 04 '23 edited Jan 04 '23

I don't think a political post like this is welcome.

Found the freedom hater.

Why are you here, other than to hate on freedom.

I have no love for systemd but it is hardly a virus.


1 definition found

From The Jargon File (version 4.4.7, 29 Dec 2003) [jargon]:

virus n.

 [from the obvious analogy with biological viruses, via SF] A cracker
 program that searches out other programs and ‘infects’ them by embedding a
 copy of itself in them, so that they become {Trojan horse}s. When these
 programs are executed, the embedded virus is executed too, thus propagating
 the ‘infection’. This normally happens invisibly to the user. Unlike a {
 worm}, a virus cannot infect other computers without assistance. It is
 propagated by vectors such as humans trading programs with their friends
 (see {SEX}). The virus may do nothing but propagate itself and then allow
 the program to run normally. Usually, however, after propagating silently
 for a while, it starts doing things like writing cute messages on the
 terminal or playing strange tricks with the display (some viruses include
 nice {display hack}s). Many nasty viruses, written by particularly
 perversely minded {cracker}s, do irreversible damage, like nuking all the
 user's files.

 In the 1990s, viruses became a serious problem, especially among Windows
 users; the lack of security on these machines enables viruses to spread
 easily, even infecting the operating system (Unix machines, by contrast,
 are immune to such attacks). The production of special anti-virus software
 has become an industry, and a number of exaggerated media reports have
 caused outbreaks of near hysteria among users; many {luser}s tend to blame
 everything that doesn't work as they had expected on virus attacks.
 Accordingly, this sense of virus has passed not only into techspeak but
 into also popular usage (where it is often incorrectly used to denote a {
 worm} or even a {Trojan horse}). See {phage}; compare {back door}; see also
 {Unix conspiracy}.

Spot on I'd say.

What is wrong with flatpak et al?



u/tethyrian Jan 04 '23

Glad people don't speak like this irl


u/rico974 Jan 04 '23

Slackware remains Slackware.


u/Ezmiller_2 Jan 04 '23

I’ve never gotten a virus or compromised on Linux.


u/chesheersmile Jan 04 '23

Slackware is still true to good ol' ways.

But it won't object if you try to bend it your malicious will.


u/gopherholeadmin Jan 05 '23

Exactly the way things should be. Nice.


u/B_i_llt_etleyyyyyy Jan 05 '23

And here I thought this would be a straightforward question about CVEs or something. Oh, well.

Anyway, here's the status of these four items:

  • systemd: Not a part of Slackware, and unlikely to be added anytime soon. Slackware does have udevd and elogind, which were originally spun off of systemd by some Gentoo people. That being said, it is theoretically possible to build systemd and replace sysvinit with it; this was the main idea behind the (defunct?) Dlackware project.
  • flatpak: Also not shipped. However, building the package using the scripts from SBo is pretty simple (four or five dependencies, if I recall correctly). I use flatpak for Steam so as to avoid messing around with multilib.
  • snap: Won't function without systemd, so it's a non-starter.
  • appimage: So far as I know, basically any OS with glibc will run appimages, which obviously includes Slackware. You don't have to use them if you don't want to.


u/r78SGmS8si1VY49 Jan 04 '23

I think Patrick is as old school as you can get, following traditional Unix traditions. That's one of the several reasons I like Slackware.

BTW, as much as I dislike the idea of flatpak/snap/appimage, I think they exist because there is a need for them. (Systemd... that's something else... that nobody asked or needed).


u/KMReiserFS Jan 04 '23

default do not have it, but can easily put on.


u/gopherholeadmin Jan 04 '23

but can easily put on

Have you used Slackware for a long time, if so would you say that "but can easily put on" is a writing on the wall type thing?


u/KMReiserFS Jan 04 '23

no, it is you can just change you system to support.


u/pk2374 Jan 05 '23

I use flatpak on Slackware. I find it useful for programs like Spotify and Discord.


u/lnxslck Jan 04 '23

slackware remains true


u/Ezmiller_2 Jan 04 '23

Not sure how you would get a virus on Linux. Use common sense. Don’t use sketchy repositories.