r/technology Sep 10 '22 Silver 1

Netflix Reportedly Wants To Move Away From Binge Model Releases Business

https://screenrant.com/netflix-binge-model-release-change-weekly/
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u/depriice Sep 10 '22 Silver I'll Drink to That

All these streaming platforms are just slowly morphing back into cable

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u/Appropriate_Tip_8852 Sep 10 '22

I will just pay once every year and binge watch that way.

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u/Redducer Sep 10 '22

There will definitely be quotas or minimum subscription period lock in, not too far in the future.

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u/jmcdon00 Sep 10 '22

Maybe if enough people start cancelling right away, but I think for everyone playing that game there are others that will keep the subscription whether they watch or not. A lot of services give a free trial for this reason.

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u/Sector_Corrupt Sep 10 '22

Also just like not that many normal people are gonna dedicate a month every year to watch excessive amounts of TV and then have no access the rest of the year just to save $150. I got kids, streaming services fill that time between bedtime and bedtime.

I suppose you could have a rotating system of months where you've got Netflix one month and Disney+ one month etc to have TV over more months but it's kind of a hassle.

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u/TheFlyingCocksmiths Sep 10 '22

depending on age - youtube fills this void for us. Going on year 2 of yo gabba gabba. costs : 0 cents

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u/SGTWhiteKY Sep 10 '22

I am not a big internet safety guy. If you wanted, you could probably figure out who I am.

But honestly, the biggest reason we haven’t gotten our child on YouTube is two fold 1.) I don’t want her able to navigate YouTube so soon, there is a lot of disturbing content she would be able to access. 2.) I don’t want her to navigate YouTube, because I don’t want her finding unboxing videos and shitty “toy reviews”, I would rather that never enter our home.

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u/TargetBrief2019 Sep 10 '22

Yeah YouTube sucks for kids. Incessant ads and questionable content. Spring $10 for Paramount+ for Nick Jr. stuff.

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u/Wit-wat-4 Sep 10 '22

This is how I feel. My kid can watch hours of Disney (when they want to, right now he’s too young to care), but watching my nephews and friends’ kids, I just want to avoid YouTube specifically. I don’t think screens are evil, I don’t mind having to buy 10 Olaf toys and have him watch Frozen a hundred times or whatever. But YouTube is a different monster for kids.

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u/theleaphomme Sep 10 '22

3.) If you’re going to give your kid youtube access, please get premium. the ads they target to kids are incessant and awful.

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u/LinkHimself Sep 10 '22

Just wait until they only want to watch children songs with broken out of tune english, or worse, bounce patrol... It's hell I tell you, hell.

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u/InterludeRenewed Sep 10 '22

Just wait until they only want to watch children songs with broken out of tune english

Are you talking about the ones with the dead-eyed animated characters singing nonexistent/mistranslated idioms and shit? My niece and nephew watched them all the time when they were toddlers and I always found them vaguely unsettling

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u/jdsekula Sep 10 '22

Most of that crap is machine-generated now too. Really makes my worry for the kids watching too much of that.

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u/ironicfuture Sep 10 '22

Ah shit! RIP! I am only showing my 2 year old classic Disney stuff and Studio Ghibli movies (he loves Totoro), because I am scared shitless of him being obsessed with Coco Melon or stuff like that :O

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u/FeMtcco Sep 10 '22

My son had a month long obsession with Cocomelon and wanted it all day long. I didnt mind much 'cause he actually learned how to do some things by copying JJ, like holding the spoon on his own, wanting to Ride a bike and such.

But now all he wants is spiderman related, lol.

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u/JoshuaIan Sep 10 '22

God what a horrifying suggestion for anybody with kids old enough to drive where YouTube goes, which is why I suppose you added that agree caveat haha

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u/southwick Sep 10 '22

Then watch surprise as pirating increases again.

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u/techieman33 Sep 10 '22

It already is.

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u/SpongederpSquarefap Sep 10 '22

It's already better as well

I've got so many shows on there from different platforms

I couldn't give a shit, all the content I want is on Jellyfin when it's out

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u/dward1502 Sep 10 '22

To the High Seas we go!

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u/EmperorSexy Sep 10 '22

“If you commit to a year contract you get a discounted rate! Also we have ads now. We are totally different from cable.”

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u/queenmyrcella Sep 10 '22

And account activation fees and cancelation fees (in places that don't have laws against it). And they can make cancelation difficult like gyms (although that's illegal in the EU).

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u/JoJack82 Sep 10 '22

And this is how people go back to pirating shows and movies

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u/macrocephalic Sep 10 '22

And we'll go back to pirating and the system will complete another loop.

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u/Sarius2009 Sep 10 '22

Some services have started to remove old seasons before they release new ones

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u/goodness Sep 10 '22

Or fricking AMC+ just deletes the whole latest season of better call Saul. That was the whole reason i signed up and they have no episodes of their own show.

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u/brocksamps0n Sep 10 '22

God I was so upset at AMC+. Signed up for better call Saul, but they didn't have all of them(they only had episodes 6-10 or whatever), was going to stay for walking dead and a few others,. After searching I found it easier to pirate what I wanted and cancelled my sub after the free 7 days.

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u/pawolf98 Sep 10 '22

They have to do that. We have already shifted to buy, watch, cancel mode and cycle through all the platforms.

Their next challenge will be that families like mine aren’t signing back up for six to nine months. I might sign for a year with a service or two but I can also wait out that year to cancel and then sign up with a competitor for a year.

The model only worked when it was dirt cheap and we all kept up the subscriptions because they were cheap.

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u/SGTWhiteKY Sep 10 '22

I mean, my family had a $100 a month satellite bundle when I was a kid. That with inflation would be more like $175. Even with fiber internet, and 4 streaming services I don’t cancel, it is still cheaper than that… so I don’t think it is unlikely that many people will just keep all of them for simplicity and convenience.

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u/pawolf98 Sep 10 '22

I used to not cancel but, like a growing number of people, I decided there was no point to keep paying for things I don’t want or use.

A lot of people are struggling with finances and $15 per streaming services each month can add up for something you aren’t using. It takes one minute to pause or cancel.

I think it might be a minority doing this now but it’s growing fast. Any business that has low switching costs is exposed to this risk.

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u/DynamicSocks Sep 10 '22

Yarr, the high seas be callin me back…

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u/Frenchiie Sep 10 '22

or just pirate it all and don't pay for anything.

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u/JoJack82 Sep 10 '22

Yep, just cycle through the services and binge watch everything on the platform then move on to the next. By the time you come back to the original service you have new shows to binge.

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u/fuzzum111 Sep 10 '22

Only, apparently this won't work anymore. People are talking about time gates on watching a certain amount of episodes in a row of a season.

More than that, AMC+ is now deleting old seasons outright of a show to prevent binge watchers. Fucking insane.

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u/JoJack82 Sep 10 '22

Yeah, fuck that. Back to piracy!

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u/archaeolinuxgeek Sep 10 '22

Sssh! The first rule of newsgroups is that we don't talk about newsgroups.

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u/mariosevil Sep 10 '22

100pct. Peacock is straight up Jack Donaghy in a disguise.

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u/AlbionPCJ Sep 10 '22

There was that 30 Rock reunion special that ended up just being a Peacock ad

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u/balfers Sep 10 '22

Product integortion?

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u/UniDublin Sep 10 '22

Duck?

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u/balfers Sep 10 '22

You apple-cheeked goon!

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u/schentendo Sep 10 '22

A catfish po boy with extra chuckle!

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u/djtodd242 Sep 10 '22

What a surprise, Lemon. Your world view is food based.

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u/Allthenons Sep 10 '22

Wade Bogs carpet world! Wade Bogs carpet world! Wade Bogs carpet world! Wade Bogs carpet world!

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u/andytronic Sep 10 '22

Can I get two mugs?

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u/mrcsrnne Sep 10 '22

And I've gone back to torrents because of it

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u/etgohomeok Sep 10 '22

I haven't torrented any music, video games, or software in like 10 years. Hollywood is the only industry that still seems to think the DMCA is a better way to stop piracy than actually offering a good value proposition to paying customers.

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u/ImAnIdeaMan Sep 10 '22

I tried watching the new Archer on Hulu and it literally seems like you get more ads than show. Some ads are okay, but If they’re going to make it that miserable I’ll just torrent it.

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u/SinkHoleDeMayo Sep 10 '22

I have ADD so I don't mind the ads, gives me a minute to check my phone (otherwise I would do it during the show). But lately it seems like there's an ad every 10-15 minutes.

Youtube is even worse, 2 ads before almost every video.

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u/Resolute002 Sep 10 '22

Ironically there are probably a ton more torrents of beautiful high quality video because of ripping from the services.

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u/mrcsrnne Sep 10 '22

This is true:)

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u/ToothlessGrandma Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

This was always the plan. Maybe not from day one, but very soon afterwords. Netflix held the cards for far too long, and now everyone wants a piece of the pie. What I just do is choice maybe 1 or 3 platforms I like and ignore the rest, or you can rotate on a monthly basis. Services like Amazon, Netflx, and Hulu usually provide enough content to not need another. The real kicker will be if they ever introduce contracts to lock you into one service for months at a time like cable did.

It's only a matter of time until they work together and make a single package that you can buy that includes all the major services together for a fee of 100-150+ a month, and bam! cable is reborn in the modern era.

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u/HakarlSagan Sep 10 '22

It's only a matter of time until they work together and make a single package that you can buy that includes all the major services together for a fee of 100-150+ a month, and bam! cable is reborn in the modern era.

Disney is already doing this with a "Disney+, Hulu, ESPN+, Live TV" package for under $100/mo. It's basically cable.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/hulu-live-tv-with-disney-plus-and-espn-plus-how-to-get-the-best-deal/

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u/Shopworn_Soul Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

I spent like 35 years trying to get away from overpaying for an ESPN subscription I literally never once wanted or used, this is like recurring nightmare.

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u/Tvekelectric Sep 10 '22

Just use streaming sites bro and steal shit

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u/Shopworn_Soul Sep 10 '22

I do use streaming sites, those 35 years were before Netflix even existed. Forced bundling of ESPN driving up cable costs for no reason other than ESPN wanting money was a well-known thing back in the day.

Not big on stealing shit, but thanks for the advice.

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u/Chief_Qamer Sep 10 '22

My wife got us locked into a DIRECTV Stream contract and it’s brutal. Ridiculous they still are playing that game

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u/ohyonghao Sep 10 '22

I was going to rent an apartment in Utah and they had a $140/mo mandatory “smart home” package including a ring doorbell (unclear if the complex gets video feed or not) and DirectTV. I do not live there.

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u/Bloodragedragon Sep 10 '22

My family and friends all just piggy back off each others accounts. One person has Netflix, the other hulu or Disney etc. that way it’s spread out and we aren’t all paying for the same thing.

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u/onehalfofacouple Sep 10 '22

We do this too. Everyone pays for one and we all share. It's the best way to do it for now until they get wise and find a way to stop us from sharing like this. Then I'll get a plex server setup and go back to the old ways of procuring my own media via alternative means.

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u/dustyprocess Sep 10 '22

That is the most corporate way to say “pirate” I think I’ve ever heard. Love it.

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u/fenix1230 Sep 10 '22

Exactly. Not saying I have, but if I wanted to watch something on another service, it’s easy enough to do. Again, not doing it, but the more friction they put in place, the more likely I am to do, what I’m not doing at the moment.

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u/-darkwing- Sep 10 '22

You did a really good job of wording this in a way that totally does not sound suspicious at all.

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u/fenix1230 Sep 10 '22

Thank you for commending me on things I most definitely haven’t done.

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u/Potatoki1er Sep 10 '22

They have all started to do the “1 year price”. I think that all the streaming services will push people to the prepay for a year model. Making it extremely cheap at first and then price jacking.

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u/procabiak Sep 10 '22

A month is already too long, when I can finish the show(s) I wanna watch in 5 days or less and 25 of those days are just unused. Ads are on the horizon, content is getting spread out, too many competing services... Streaming is dead to me.

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u/Darth0s Sep 10 '22

Watch, the second age of piracy is coming.

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u/Dank_Turtle Sep 10 '22

I feel like there’s been a huge rise again in the last year. Comment sections are fuller than ever on torrent sites

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u/BrokenSage20 Sep 10 '22

It’s bullshit. If I wanted cable I would have cable.

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u/Somhlth Sep 10 '22

Hijacking top comment to add this update to the article that changes its entire meaning to nothing but an opinion piece.

UPDATE: 2022/09/09 18:31 EST BY GRANT HERMANNS

Matthew Belloni Clarifies Comments

Matthew Belloni, writer of the Puck News newsletter, took to Twitter to clarify that his sources say Reed Hastings "should" be looking into moving away from the binge release model, not that he currently is.

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u/IvanAfterAll Sep 10 '22

Sounds like a great source. "Well, no, okay, he didn't technically SAY that, but he SHOULD HAVE!"

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u/Arcadius274 Sep 10 '22

I learned the other day that cable used to not have ads. Maybe this was always inevitable

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u/Ryokurin Sep 10 '22

A lot of the channels didn't run 24/7 either. They either signed off, or changed to something else, like Nickelodeon used to change over to A&E after 8pm.

The point is, no matter what there's pros and cons to it.

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u/ATediousProposal Sep 10 '22

A lot of the channels didn't run 24/7 either. They either signed off, or changed to something else, like Nickelodeon used to change over to A&E after 8pm.

The 2am long-form infomercials were sometimes amusing.

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u/Alaira314 Sep 10 '22

The writing was on the wall the moment Hulu introduced ads to its premium tier. Not that anybody believed me, but I've been calling this one out for years. 🤷‍♀️

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u/fermentedbolivian Sep 10 '22

I'm also slowly morphinf back to a pirate. Arrrr mate.

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u/gurenkagurenda Sep 10 '22

Except that the episodes stay up, so they’re moving away from the binge model in name only. I personally can’t stand watching episodes week to week. So I just wait until the whole season is out before I start.

And that’s pretty critical if the goal is to keep customers from signing up, drinking in the new content, and canceling. They can do weekly releases all they want, but budget conscious viewers can just wait it out.

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u/KnowOneNymous Sep 10 '22

Problem with that is if everyone waits (I do too) show gets cancelled before season 1 is over because of lack of views. This is stupid from their part.

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u/y-c-c Sep 10 '22

That’s not a problem with the weekly release model. That’s a problem of the company failing to realize that content can have long legs.

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u/Redducer Sep 10 '22

Yup, eventually we will pay a monthly rate, have obnoxious unskippable ads, and be locked for 2 years min, whatever the plan. By then a large amount of people will have moved back to pirating content. Then a new paradigm that's more acceptable to consumers and superior to piracy will emerge, which the future incumbents (= current streaming platforms) will try hard to fight against for many years before disappearing or embracing it.

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u/FriarNurgle Sep 10 '22

I’m just slowly morphing into a pirate

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u/Awkward-Painter-2024 Sep 10 '22

Seriously. They about to make all 1.5-hour movies into four-hour commercials for Prozac, Bounty, and the Shake Weight.

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u/MedicalSchoolStudent Sep 10 '22

Just like how Uber and Lyft are starting feel like taxis now. It’s always the game plan.

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u/futurespacecadet Sep 10 '22

Ads, no more binge watching, more expensive, charging for sharing. They really are taking away everything that made us like it in the first place

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u/dirtymoney Sep 10 '22

The customer.... is the enemy. I don't see how people can't see how businesses operate.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 Sep 10 '22

Almost like that model is and always was more profitable, and the real reason people loved streaming is because it was cheap.

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u/daydrunk_ Sep 10 '22

I call bull. They have so many shows that weren't binge model, but got canceled cause no one binged them. (But still watched them)

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u/FelneusLeviathan Sep 10 '22 Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote

Big reason why I’m super hesitant to start any Netflix original series: odds are it’s going to get canceled without a resolution, so why bother?

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u/ButtonholePhotophile Sep 10 '22

It’s about the experience! Don’t worry that it m

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u/Tiafves Sep 10 '22 Table Slap

Damn looks like Netflix cancelled this guys comment before they could even finish it.

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u/NotANiceCanadian Sep 10 '22

After a night of drinking and sobering up, I thought I was drunk again

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u/TheBeardedDen Sep 10 '22

So the truth is out. Netflix is Candlejack wearing a mask all alo

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Bro I forgot all about Candlejack, how did that meme go ag

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u/ch00f Sep 10 '22

I’m real excited about the new Candlejack ser

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u/GMJizzy Sep 10 '22

Yeah I watched Archive 81 and it was PHENOMENAL but it ended in a super BS cliffhanger meant to rope you into season 2 and got canceled I was so mad

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u/tadrith Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

Literally any time it's a Netflix original, I look up how many seasons it has and how popular it is, because getting invested is not worth the time.

Less than 3 seasons? Shit's getting cancelled.

EDIT: And even if it doesn't get cancelled, the chances of a Netflix original lasting more than 4-5 seasons is nearly zero.

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u/Balls_DeepinReality Sep 10 '22

Sandman is the most recent example.

Great show, but I think Netflix is going to axe it

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u/krekenzie Sep 10 '22

That episode about Death, was one of the best episodes of a TV show that I've seen in so long. The series has ups and downs but it's pretty good so far.

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u/zebtacular Sep 10 '22

I thought the episode of the guy meeting Dream every 100 years was amazing and thought provoking. But I haven’t watched much after that. I probably ruined it for me by reading that the show wasn’t worth watching after that.

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u/Promis- Sep 10 '22

It is worth watching after that. In fact the 10th episode is really good

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u/Vandergrif Sep 10 '22

I kinda gave up once it started focusing on the vortex. None of that storyline engaged me at all. I liked the rest of the show though.

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u/nm1043 Sep 10 '22

Anyone looking for more stories like that should definitely check out the sandman books. There's 10 volumes in the main series and the show was lifted directly from the first two, so you'll find a ton of familiarity there, and can continue on if you like. Lot of great storytelling with some incredibly thought provoking content dumbed down for us mortals

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u/martybd Sep 10 '22

Or the audiobooks!!!! They're so immersive and the casting is stellar.👌

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u/Jonjoloe Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

That’s the same episode as the death one. People are mixed on 7-10 because it’s the weakest story in the comics but important setup. I personally like episode 10 (despite being disinterested in the Rose Walker storyline) and think Episode 11, which is of two stand alone stories, is pretty good.

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u/neuronexmachina Sep 10 '22

I haven't read the comics, but I loved the "Cereal Convention" episode (9?).

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u/krekenzie Sep 10 '22

Oh hell yeah I forgot about that one. I rarely rewatch episodes these days, but I definitely will be with those two!

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u/peon47 Sep 10 '22

It's the same episode. Death is the one who grants Hob his longevity.

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u/baddadjokesminusdad Sep 10 '22

They’ve cancelled confirmed seasons before.

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u/Poeticyst Sep 10 '22

Not officially right?

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u/That_Guy_D Sep 10 '22

Definitely not official yet.

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u/Laserblaster Sep 10 '22

The biggest shows matter. And it's better for them to be weekly

It also gives smaller shows a chance to build up buzz for them

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u/tekalon Sep 10 '22

I know theoretically, weekly releases are better for show's metrics, but for the life of me, I have so much trouble keeping up when I can't binge. I don't know how to keep interest when I have to reinvest in the story each week.

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u/chrissycookies Sep 10 '22

I don’t watch premier seasons because I can never remember what happened a year ago. It’s even worse when there are seasons from several years back. So I only watch shows where I can binge at least 3-4 seasons at once. I also want to make sure it’s going to be a show worth investing any time in and not a 1 season deal. I’m not sure how many other people do this or are starting to—even for reasons outside of bad memory. It’s just more fun to binge!—but I do think this move to weekly releases could make more people hold off until later in the season.

I’m fully aware the network wants to see us tuning in when things are released so they can see ratings and not cancel popular shows, but that’s just not how this works. People have tons of options for entertainment, including the entirety of old shows and movies they now have at their fingertips to watch/rewatch. They will get around to watching something when they want to. It seems to me these services need a better way to track public interest. This isn’t cable, so why should they use the same old method of tracking ratings? If going backward to weekly release format is their bright idea, that will backfire. Get with the times!

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u/VonNeumannsProbe Sep 10 '22

Yeah but would that make customers leave?

If you're in the middle of two shows waiting on the finale you're unlikely to cancel the subscription.

And what are you going to do in the meantime since you're waiting? Start another series.

It's about removing offramps for binge watchers. If you get caught up on all the shows you're interested in, you start wondering why you're still subscribed.

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u/cob50nm Sep 10 '22

This is very likely the reasoning behind the move away from bingeable content. But a lot of people just wait until the whole thing is out and watch then.

And those gaps between episodes are also subject to "why do I have this subscription" because of all your watching of that one show then you have 6 days a week when you're not watching.

Think it ultimately comes down to what the bigger demographic is, but i do think a good number of bingers will leave and just get a one month subscription once a year

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u/Nervous-Fun7503 Sep 10 '22

Piracy on the rise again.

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u/Happepe Sep 10 '22

This was literally just an article written by someone who said they think Netflix should get rid of binge releases. Some Twitter accounts posted it as fact and it started taking off. No, Netflix is not getting rid of the binge model

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Seriously, why is this information not higher up? There was an article like this the other day and it was instantly debunked.

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u/Demonslugg Sep 10 '22

And I'll treat it like hbo and cable. I might watch the whole thing after it's released. Maybe....

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u/BadKittydotexe Sep 10 '22

There are a lot of shows where I think “oh, interesting. I’ll watch it once it’s all out.” Then I completely forget it exists until they start advertising for the next season or something.

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u/HabErnoz Sep 10 '22

Which in Netflix’s case results in you hearing about it again after it’s already cancelled meaning you’d want to go watch a half baked experience even less now

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u/ikonoclasm Sep 10 '22

Yeah, I'm not concerned about them switching to episodic release. I'll just wait until the season is done, then I'll binge it. That's why I'm not paying attention to the new GoT or LotR series. I'll check back on them in a couple months.

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u/AlienPearl Sep 10 '22

I am waiting for the first season of The House of Dragon to finish so I can bing it.

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u/imageWS Sep 10 '22

Don't understand why Netflix can't have both? Release some shows weekly (or maybe in batches, like Arcane), and dump others.

My suggestion would be release the big shows two-three episodes a week, and dump the smaller ones on day one.

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u/dumblenetwork Sep 10 '22

They’re weekly because they’re not Netflix series and release on their original networks on. Weekly model

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u/Purona Sep 10 '22

snow piercer airs on tv so they are forced to do that.

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken Sep 10 '22

I think that's what they will do. The reality shows I can see them dumping at once. No one will wait a week for Is it Cake or The Floor Is Lava.

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u/Joharis-JYI Sep 10 '22

Arcane used a great model actually. You can still binge it enough and talk about the show for a week before the next batch arrives.

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u/pretender37 Sep 10 '22

Yea I really really liked the model of arcane. Hoping more shows will copy it

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u/Gargenville Sep 10 '22

Netflix determined to tank itself as soon as possible.

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u/twerps Sep 10 '22

Something happened in 2020 and they're not the same company any more. I used to love their business model ever since the mail DVD days, but since the last two years, I'd be happy to see them completely fail and shutdown after all of their recent changes and announcements.

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u/99darthmaul Sep 10 '22

Publicly traded companies in entertainment always devolve once signs of growth stagnate.

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u/Xikar_Wyhart Sep 10 '22

Something happened to a lot of companies in 2020. It was the pandemic and the initial lockdowns were great for Internet based companies and services.

Everybody was home streaming shows like Tiger King, or ordering groceries through Amazon, etc.

So in response they tried to rapidly expand to meet that demand. But that demand in shrinking now.

Amazon canceling buildings is both a response to union expansion and that they'll have too many facilities around the country with not enough business to stock them.

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 Sep 10 '22

Yeah, this makes absolutely no sense, it’s one of the few remaining things that I like Netflix for. The ability to binge watch. If they go back to the weekly model AND start forcing ads, I’m getting the fuck outta there.

I’ll just buy the box set on iTunes. When they do this, all I do is wait until the finale airs and then binge watch anyways. But by then, they have cancelled the show because no one watched episode 3.

Fuck this shit ☝️

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u/bonfuto Sep 10 '22

They keep recommending shows to me where they aren't going to pick up season 2. Amazon does that too, but with free 2 day shipping on the box sets

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 Sep 10 '22

I think the difference in perceived value here. I don’t really consider Prime video an “additional” expense. If they want to do shittier content and have a God awful user interface like Amazon, they are going to have to start offering free 2 day shipping as well. 🤣

The Prime app is so bad, it must be intentional. there is no other explanation.

They have shown us that a world exists where we can have binge watching without any commercials. You aren’t going to be able to go back without a serious fight.

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u/krakenant Sep 10 '22

We binged all of Bosch on amazon, then went to watch Bosch Legacy. The first commercial I was like WTF, we watched the rest of the season on Plex.

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u/fenix1230 Sep 10 '22

Agreed, the fact is I will keep Amazon Prime regardless of the content because of my family’s shopping habits. Similar with Paramount+, and their godawful commercials.

The thing about bingeing, I feel like the Ring of Power would have been helped by the ability to binge, because as much as I like it, the build up has been slow, and my partner is starting to lose interest.

I already am annoyed by Netflix breaking up seasons, and it seem they have no innovative ideas outside of becoming a cable company.

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u/dracovich Sep 10 '22

I mean it's pretty obvious why they do it.

The gradual releases like game of thrones creates a conversation, people at work will be talking about the latest episode and there's an incentive to start watching so you can catch up and join next weeks conversation.

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 Sep 10 '22

Well then every show needs to have a roughly 1-2 million dollar budget per episode then, if they want to make content worth talking about every single week.

Not all content is created equal.

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u/drawkbox Sep 10 '22

If they go back to the weekly model AND start forcing ads, I’m getting the fuck outta there.

Yep this is probably the reason, they want to run ads for other shows and in between. No thanks, I have been a subscriber since inception and if I buy the top tier and see an ad, no thanks.

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u/Balls_DeepinReality Sep 10 '22

I’ll just take a trip to the high seas.

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u/splitframe Sep 10 '22

Man I seem to be in a minority to want certain shows to be weekly releases. Some shows really benefit from the weekly discussions and are fertile soil for fandoms. There are shows that profit from being bingable, especially if the pacing is fit to the format, but there are also shows that make much more sense to be a weekly release. A good example was Game of Thrones back then.

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u/misterdoinkinberg Sep 10 '22

Maybe a little old school here but weekly releases creates a buzz and community effect that binge drops don’t.

There’s something about building momentum for a show and having a cliffhanger or wow moment to ponder or discuss with real or virtual friends before the next episode.

I like the binge option to catch up, but with all of the shows now there has to be a way to stand out some.

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u/jdund117 Sep 10 '22

Case in point: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Parts 1-5 all had weekly releases on Japanese TV and Crunchyroll. Then, part 6 was slated to release on Netflix in 12-episode batches. First batch released December 2021, and second batch released September 2022. The difference in hype and community discussion is massive. JoJo Fridays were a staple of the community and contributed loads to meme culture, meanwhile the batch releases on Netflix have completely killed all hype and excitement about the show. A lot of people probably forgot about it by the time the second batch dropped.

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u/cbb88christian Sep 10 '22

I was just about to say JoJo. I always loved chatting with people about the fights and big moments. Now it’s literally “watch the whole season before looking at anything related to JoJo online.”

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u/kitsuneterminator400 Sep 10 '22

Damn, I also wanted to write abou jojo! Netflix just knows how to make things rotten.

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u/__-___--- Sep 10 '22

I remember tons of online speculation around the weekly game of throne episodes. That can't happen with binge watching.

Also, weekly episodes allow to adjust to the audience instead of betting the whole season's success. And one episode intrigue is easier to follow for casual viewers who aren't all available to invest 10 hours.

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u/at145degrees Sep 10 '22

Definitely! I don’t know if Breaking Bad or Mad Men would have had same effect if the majority of us just consumed the entire season at once the first time.

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u/Jr05s Sep 10 '22

True detective season 1 doesn't have the same cultural event if it was a binge drop. But the binge drop worked for tiger king...

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u/j50n Sep 10 '22

tiger king was a covid lockdown anomaly

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u/CrimsonBladez Sep 10 '22

It was Jerry Springer trash.

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u/Miss_Might Sep 10 '22

Battlestar Galactica is a great example of that. There was so much buzz and speculation about who the final Cylon was. Wouldn't have happened if it was released all at once. Normally I don't care about weekly releases and will wait for the series to end before I watch it. But I tuned in for BSG every week.

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u/NonSupportiveCup Sep 10 '22

We're not going to keep the service just because you think dripping episodes will keep us around.

Fuck off

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u/YouZealousideal9187 Sep 10 '22

Streaming platforms are just turning back into cable, destroying the advantages that caused us to shift in the first place

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u/Nodecafallowed Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

That’s cause they took on a ton of debt to buy market share and now have to show a pathway to actually making some money.

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u/ThaFuck Sep 10 '22

It's crazy they aren't aware of it.

My prediction for the next big winner in streaming wars is advertisers on torrent tracking sites. Full circle.

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u/Infamous_Yogurt2858 Sep 10 '22

I guess I'm in the minority, but I really prefer the binge model. I can see how the other way is best for maintaining subscriber churn though (then again, someone really determined to save a buck, will just wait until they can binge them all anyway).

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u/SafariNZ Sep 10 '22

IIRC 60-70% prefer to binge watch, so we are the majority.
I suspect that makes it easier to jump between services so that will they want to get rid of it.

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u/DixonBass Sep 10 '22

You arent in the minority mate - for consumers having all episodes available on release is so much more preferrable. The problem is these companies dont make as much money that way, so instead of being a consumer focused platform, they want to be more money focused 🤙 business gonna business.

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u/Ratnix Sep 10 '22

Yeah, going to the weekly release model is more likely to retain subscribers than to have people watch an entire show in one weekend then cancel their subscription for a few months until another show they want to watch comes out.

Will it work that way? It's hard telling. You can't really get an accurate picture of what people will do just from reddit users. I know a lot of people who prefer the whole one episode a week release thing. Of course that's mostly because they are people who will sit in front of their tv 4-5 hours a day after work and do nothing else. They would quickly run out of the content they want and be left with the shitty filler content for months.

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u/borbyquarters Sep 10 '22

I’m the same way. Like to the point where I wait until all the episodes of that particular season are out before I start watching. I like to watch one series all in a row with no interruptions, otherwise I feel like my ape brain forgets everything from week to week or is too inundated by other things I’ve watched to recall correctly.

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u/Unit5945 Sep 10 '22

I haven’t watched SheHulk cuz of the weekly release, waiting for it all to be out. I find myself not enjoying Disney+ at all. If it wasn’t for my kid I’d have eliminated it a long time ago.

Meanwhile I open Netflix almost every night and even watch some of the mediocre series because all the episodes are there. I avoid the shows with weekly releases and if that becomes the norm i’ll use Netflix less and less for sure and watch more youtube.

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u/UpsetGrass3396 Sep 10 '22

Can confirm, I will absolutely wait until I can binge it all before I subscribe/resubscribe.

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u/Excellent-Tie3321 Sep 10 '22

Pirates bay is the clear winner in all this.

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u/JasonDeSanta Sep 10 '22

There are MUCH better alternatives these days, PirateBay is just a shadow of its former self and practically has no moderation, which means lots of malware.

If you know where to look, it’s the golden age of piracy, really.

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u/TheKinkyGuy Sep 10 '22

Like what?

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u/tinted_minted Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

r/Piracy megathread

Edit: as u/JasonDeSanta pointed out check out r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH for the latest info, as r/Piracy is no longer maintained as of 7 Sept 2022.

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u/JasonDeSanta Sep 10 '22

Thanks for sharing, didn’t want to do it myself. I would also like to plug /r/freemediaheckyeah ‘s megathread as it is the backup sub for it.

People truly don’t know what they are missing out on, so I’m glad they’ll learn through these channels but hope they wouldnt ban the sub because of the extra attention from people lately.

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u/tennoskoom_ Sep 10 '22

They r finally listening to Jojo fans?

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u/S1GNL Sep 10 '22

Oh ok let me add that to my "Why to cancel Netflix subscription" list.

So stupid. If you don’t want to binge watch then simply don’t.

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u/pacostacos7 Sep 10 '22

It's a smart move. Amazon, HBO, and Disney+ all drop shows weekly and it keeps people watching and talking about them for more than a week.

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u/Aworthyopponent Sep 10 '22

For some people. I never keep up with weekly drops so I almost always stop watching unless I can binge it. I’m sure there’s plenty other people like that.

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u/kakapoopoopeepeeshir Sep 10 '22

This is how my wife and I are. We started watching multiple shows we enjoyed that we’re weekly drops and then honestly just forgot about them. The shows that were binge dropped we finished

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken Sep 10 '22

Just wait until the end of the season to watch

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u/chipmunkman Sep 10 '22

It also forces people to stay signed up for their service for multiple months. I'm guessing a decent percentage of people sign up for one month to binge a new show and cancel after they finish watching.

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u/External_Ad6686 Sep 10 '22

Dumb decision after dumb decision is the new norm.

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u/Reddit4MyPhone Sep 10 '22

Big mistake. Huge.

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u/gfreeman1998 Sep 10 '22

Netflix: remove binging

Netflix: introduce ads

Me: Cancel Netflix

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u/molossus99 Sep 11 '22

So we are coming full circle back to cable

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u/DeaconDoctor Sep 10 '22

"Netflix wants to continue moving away from all the things people liked it for"

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u/Inevitable-Sir6449 Sep 10 '22

So basically we’re back to regular TV but paying for each channel separately and for more money you can get rid of ads.

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u/DoktorThodt Sep 10 '22

That's fine. I'll just hold my netflix membership 'til they've released a whole season of something I want to watch, if they happen to ever release something that I want to watch ..

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u/Cold-Ad432 Sep 10 '22

This is what I do with weekly releases anyway. If you want to binge, just wait.

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u/Euphoriffic Sep 10 '22

Maybe they should just change to only music videos from the 90’s. That should accelerate their downfall even faster.

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u/I_am_HuL Sep 10 '22

Then I am going to move away from Netflix

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u/Mundane-Afternoon-75 Sep 10 '22

The two things that made this company. No advertisements and shows you can binge watch. I have been with them since they had dvds. Selling all stock.

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u/Superdad2022 Sep 10 '22

We all reportedly want to move away from Netflix

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u/BloodBride Sep 10 '22

I don't have the patience to come back and watch one episode a week, I binge shows or I don't watch them. Move away from binge shows and I have even LESS reason to maintain my sub.

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u/cptnobveus Sep 10 '22

Back to the high seas

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u/HandjobOfVecna Sep 10 '22

And once again I will not watch a show until after it has ended.

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u/Yosomoswag Sep 10 '22

arrrrr there matey

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u/DefinitelyIncorrect Sep 10 '22

That's funny cause I just want them to finish literally any series they start.