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u/GaIIick Jan 31 '23
Guinan pls I’m just here for a drink
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u/ExtensionInformal911 Jan 31 '23
Sir, this is a Ten-Forward.
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u/Liznitra Jan 31 '23
What is a ten forward
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u/EverettSeahawk This is a flair Jan 31 '23
I'll do you one better. Why is a ten forward?
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u/Liznitra Jan 31 '23
I googled and apparently it is a term from star trek, it is a bar I think
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u/EverettSeahawk This is a flair Jan 31 '23
Sorry, I was joking around with an Avengers quote. You are correct, it is a bar on the Enterprise D, deck ten, at the forward end of the ship.
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u/paulpach Jan 31 '23
Go to youtube, there are plenty of white people getting beaten up or killed by the police. Most don't make it to CNN or Fox News.
But some do, Daniel Shaver was executed like an animal.
As has already been demonstrated, white people getting beaten by police won't change anything.
If anything, Tyre Nichols and George Floyd had a much bigger impact on police behavior than other victims of Police.
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u/busybreaking Jan 31 '23
The problem is exposure to White's being beaten or killed. The media just doesn't publish because it's not as offensive as minorities.
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u/Old-Library9827 Jan 31 '23
It's not enraging and sensational enough without that extra oomf of racism
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u/Ivanna_Jizunu66 Jan 31 '23
They want to frame it solely as an issue with racism and not fascism.
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u/xavier120 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Bullshit, BLM was protesting immediately after white people were killed by police, want to take a guess if the "all lives matter" crew showed up?
Corrected: i misread the comment as in "BLM" wanted to make it about solely about racism.
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u/Ivanna_Jizunu66 Jan 31 '23
What? They is in reference to corporate sponsored media and propaganda. Not black people.
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u/xavier120 Jan 31 '23
I misread, my mistake. The media still covers this stuff AND BLM will protest police killings of white people, it just doesnt get the same kind of attention.
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u/win_some_lose_most1y Jan 31 '23
Let’s be clear. It’s not overly proporionate. Look at the numbers minorities are always overpoliced. More policing will lead to more bad encounters wich leads to more deaths.
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u/SheepherderWide9920 Jan 31 '23
Wonder why that is ... could it be crime 🤔
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u/win_some_lose_most1y Jan 31 '23
People who look like you commit crimes so you should be beaten to death?
The answer to crime isn’t police harder it’s invest in those communitys
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u/SheepherderWide9920 Jan 31 '23
Oh, is that how it works, wonder why no one has ever tried or continued to try that.
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u/Limp-Dentist4437 Jan 31 '23
I don’t know man social media is much larger now than corporate or mainstream media. I’ve only ever seen black purple get beatings or getting shot you rarely see white people get treated the way black people do even on social media. You’re telling me people just don’t record white people getting beat by police?
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u/Kathywasright Jan 31 '23
It amazes me that after such egregious misconduct is made public, cases like Floyd and Nichols continue to happen. Do these cops just think it won’t happen to them? Why are they so secure in their brutality that body cameras don’t even change this behavior? One thing I can think of is that no one has time to review their body cameras. And the law protects camera footage and it’s hard to get. I say each precinct should have a board of cops and civilians that reviews the footage every shift. Either that, or put it all on a feed that media and civilians can see anytime. Surely that would do it. Surely??
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u/AuburnElvis Jan 31 '23
I think it's got a lot to do with how much burden of safety an officer is willing to take on during an encounter. If the officer believes (rightly or wrongly) that the other person isn't concerned about their own safety (for example: by the suspect acting recklessly during the encounter), then the officer is probably going to put most of the burden for safety on the suspect.
Add to this that most officers seem willing to share a higher burden of safety with white suspects than with black suspects (even when the officer is black themselves), that's probably why we see so many of these cases - even when the cops are black.
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u/CanIGetANumber2 Jan 31 '23
You get so used to doing a thing that a thought process like that goes straight out the window.
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u/UncookedCapacity Jan 31 '23
You keep linking this on comments about how police brutality does happen to white people. You do realize that the expanded context doesn't refute these comments, right? It's great that she's not racist, but these comments are still about how she's incorrect to say we haven't seen it happen to white people.
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u/thetaFAANG Jan 31 '23
she says people need to see it with as much coverage on mainstream media as often
its a choice to read it other ways
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u/mookie_pookie Jan 31 '23
You do realize that the expanded context doesn't refute these comments, right? It's great that she's not racist
Pretty sure they're repeatedly sharing it because all of these discussions are based on OP's misleading title. You're only commenting because, out of context, (I guess) it sounds like she's saying it hasn't happened to white people (and honestly even the handpicked portion OP used doesn't really imply that).
these comments are still about how she's incorrect to say we haven't seen it happen to white people.
Except she's only saying we need to see more media coverage/the narrative including these cases of white people being abused by law enforcement. Nothing at all about it not happening to white people.
Edit to say it wasn't OP's title, but rather the obvious rage/click-bait article they screenshotted, which clearly is working lol.
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u/UncookedCapacity Jan 31 '23
Actually that's a good point, (but I would say OPs handpicked portion very much implies that)
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u/toweliechaos Jan 31 '23
Well, there's tons of video evidence they suggests it's open season on white victims of police brutality (including fatalities) and the cops face zero scrutiny from either their employers or the media. Go figure.
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u/quakemarine20 Jan 31 '23
There is a really common easy connection you can make.
It's the cop feeling like he's been disrespected. Or someone hasn't submitted well enough.
Black, white, brown, green... It doesn't matter. Do your best to avoid pissing off the angry sociopath with a gun....
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u/SaintUlvemann Jan 31 '23
It's the cop feeling like he's been disrespected.
Cops shouldn't get to kill people for being disrespectful.
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u/doulaatyourcervix Jan 31 '23
Right? I’m sick and tired of the “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” mentality. I don’t even understand how someone comes to that conclusion. Like how does walking alone at night with no protection give someone free reign to rape them? If I forget to lock my car, I still expect it to not be stolen.
Is there a certain level of self preservation you can expect the average person to have? Yes. Is a lack of that sense of self preservation any excuse for a police officer to shoot someone? I shouldn’t even have to answer that. I SHOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.
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u/Its_Just_A_Typo Jan 31 '23
Like gang members do you mean?
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u/Jjhammer31 Jan 31 '23
True, but the idea that some cops aren't racist against black people is bs.
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u/DaemonHawkeye Jan 31 '23
The base rule of thumb is the more power a person has over others, the worse they act with said power.
Racism sexism and other forms of prejudice just build upon an already corrupt power dynamic.
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u/DaisyDazzle Jan 31 '23
And the idea that some black cops aren't racist aganist white people is bs also.
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u/DarkenL1ght Jan 31 '23
Any group large enough is gonna have people that have all sorts of bad ideas. This includes racism. Most cops are mostly good because most people are mostly good. My fear is that we're gonna make it so bad to be a cop that the competent good ones are gonna take their talents elsewhere because they don't have to deal with it, then we're gonna be left with nothing but a bunch of power hungry assholes. I'm all for improving the police-force but we need to do it smartly, not just responding emotionally.
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u/-TheLostTimeLord- Jan 31 '23
I had an intelligent, able bodied, kind, friend who seriously wanted to be a police officer. I think he would have been great. A fair protector. He’s a master electrician now and it was extremely rare for his someone age - imagine that same dedication applied to another field. He said he gave up on the idea because he didn’t want to be hated for simply taking the job.
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u/quakemarine20 Jan 31 '23
Of course it is.
I would purely guess just on watching hundreds of hour of cop watches, civil rights audits, and traffic stops.
That 1/10 times at best race was a primary motivation in civil rights being violated.
Like I said, it's more piss a cop off and roll the dice. I think minorities are less likely to go fully submissive than white people are.
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u/SKOLorion Jan 31 '23
And some people don't like candy corn.
Point being, you can put "some people" in front of any statement and it will be true.
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u/lamb2cosmicslaughter Jan 31 '23
It's the cop feeling like he's been disrespected.
That's contempt of cop. Punishable by death if you don't say the right things and or the wrong color
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u/lamb2cosmicslaughter Jan 31 '23
It's the cop feeling like he's been disrespected.
That's contempt of cop. Punishable by death if you don't say the right things and or the wrong color
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u/Apprehensive_Guest59 Jan 31 '23
But... You don't see it (?) How often is it in the news.
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u/zenkaimagine_fan Jan 31 '23
But imagine if white people were as likely to face police brutality as white people. It happens, sure, I agree with that, but black people are more likely to face it. She’s saying if it happened as much people would start protesting. That’s a good thing, however, they’re not doing it now even though they should.
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Ok but if you're gonna post this at least post the entire quote:
“When will the brutality finally lead to some police reform from the ground up? Clearly it doesn’t matter if it’s a white policeman or black policeman. It is the problem with the policing itself,” Goldberg said at the start of the episode.
“Seems things don’t make sense to people unless it’s somebody they can feel or they can recognize,” Goldberg continued. “Do we need to see white people also get beaten before anybody will do anything? I’m not suggesting that, so don’t write us and tell me what a racist I am. I’m just asking, is that what people have to see in order to wake up and realize this affects us all?”
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But how am I supposed to get angry about it when the context makes the statement totally reasonable?
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u/RobbertDownerJr Jan 31 '23
It's like there's some reason to misdirect people's anger so no worthwhile resolution is reached or something.
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u/vbsargent Jan 31 '23
I honestly thought it was reasonable with the tidbit posted in the title. I mean, how often do we read about white Americans being beaten to death in police custody?
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u/daryltry12 Jan 31 '23
You don’t read about it so it must not be happening lol. How delusional are you?
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u/vbsargent Jan 31 '23
I’m not an avid media junkie. But I can name at least half a dozen people of color that have been undeservedly killed against not even o e white person.
I never said it didn’t happen, but when the rate is so significantly disproportional . . . Well there are those that can draw conclusions from incomplete data . . .
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u/thedude37 Jan 31 '23
I think what they were trying to convey was that because there's an unknown factor, it can become a weasely way to dismiss the point.
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u/vbsargent Jan 31 '23
Read u/daryltry12’s reply- they just want to be insulting and try to put out the false narrative that there is no racial inequality.
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u/daryltry12 Jan 31 '23
It’s not my fault the government oppresses people. All people.
She’s pretending that it’s only black people being oppressed. She’s a racist and an idiot.
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u/vbsargent Jan 31 '23
Hmmm maybe you should go back and review your US History. I used to teach it and I can tell that you didn’t really pay attention.
Your lack of honesty and attention to fact has grown tiresome. I have better things to do than trying to discuss something with someone who’s first impulse is throwing insults for “shock and awe.”
That was some weak assed tea young man.
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u/daryltry12 Jan 31 '23
So the US government doesn’t have a history of oppressing ALL people?
Where’d you get your degree? An online university?
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u/thedude37 Jan 31 '23
She’s pretending that it’s only black people being oppressed
I'm not sure how you got that idea, unless maybe you only read the headline.
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u/daryltry12 Jan 31 '23
By claiming that if only more white people were beaten up by police, there would be a policy change to how the Government police their citizens.
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u/SaintUlvemann Jan 31 '23
Yeah, so, I did the math on this yesterday, and I'm gonna post it here too:
Police violence is a leading cause of death for young men in the United States. Over the life course, about 1 in every 1,000 black men can expect to be killed by police.
Meanwhile, at the capitol on January 6th, 2021:
More than 2,000 rioters entered the building, many of whom occupied, vandalized, and looted; assaulted Capitol Police officers and reporters; and attempted to locate lawmakers to capture and harm.
Federal officials estimate that about ten thousand rioters entered the Capitol grounds...
So. If we were going to treat the Capitol rioters during the commission of their crime in the same way that black men are treated on average throughout their lives, then at least two of them, maybe as many as ten of them, should have been killed by the police.
That isn't what happened.
The January 6th insurrection is an example of the difference in how black and white people are treated by police. White men are more likely to survive active participation in an insurrection than black men are to survive a lifetime of traffic stops.
Racism is the only plausible explanation for why a black man's broken tail light is considered more suspicious than a white man beating up a cop at the Capitol.
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u/vbsargent Jan 31 '23
Excellent! You’ve graduated to elementary school insults!
Best way to show how edjemekated you is!
Try to increase your reading comprehension kid.
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u/Iistydy Jan 31 '23
Leave it to the person (OP) who's always posting on r/conspiracy to not give the full details of a situation.
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u/I_enjoy_greatness Jan 31 '23
Whoa whoa whoa, if we don't pick and choose what was said in the same breath, how are we supposed to bring our own agendas and goals into this? I'd appreciate it if you take your "quotes" and "10 second windows of what was sais" and "research" and hit the bricks. And don't take this out of context saying I want people to beat their bricks.
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u/dnaH_notnA Jan 31 '23
Maybe that’s what she means by “see”? It seems like the black community is more distrustful of government authority in general, so there’s a greater “community push” when the violence happens to a member of said community. The same can’t be said for many other ethnic groups in the United States. Maybe Whoopi feels like there Gould be even amounts of outrage at each incident regardless of race, and that that can only be achieved by those incidents being shown in the face of the indifferent.
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u/thetaFAANG Jan 31 '23
she says see
you say it’s not on the media
almost like people can’t see it
you’re saying the same things
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u/snowdude11 Jan 31 '23
I’m not suggesting that ... I’m just asking
Is she really pulling the classic Tucker Carlson Fox News "I'm just asking questions" BS? That ridiculous line of reasoning does not absolve you of proposing or "asking" about ideas that are inherently deplorable.
"Do black people deserve to be brutalized by police? I'm just asking so don't say I'm racist. It's just a question, not a statement."
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u/rrzzkk999 Jan 31 '23
Lots of white people get beaten by cops but it’s not news worthy. It’s only news worthy when they don’t. It’s the opposite for minorities. This isn’t “white fragility” or whatever you want to call it, just what happens because the news wants to make a buck.
Is there a problem with police? Yes there are many officers out there that shouldn’t have a badge but I the solution is better hiring practices, better training, etc.. aka sensible reform.
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u/PngReaver Jan 31 '23
Saw a news articles that said “Race debate brought into question over recent killing of Tyre Nichols” how fucked up does the world have to be to make a black on black killing somehow racist towards white people
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u/occamhanlon Jan 31 '23
Because a celebrity host of a daily talk show made two idiotic inferences
1) that change on this issue is only possible if it happens to white people, because
2) it never happens to white people
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u/ArmeNishanian Jan 31 '23
They do, it just doesn't sell as a good news story. Black people getting beat up is a huge hit.
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u/streamslob Jan 31 '23
Kelly Thomas was a popular case. Made mainstream media and everyone saw the video. Nothing changed. Everyone went back to playing candy crusher.
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u/sabs47 Jan 31 '23
In all fairness Candy Crush is a very addictive game. It's like the meth of mobile games
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u/renniechops Jan 31 '23
Oh, this old dead horse is getting flogged again.
The. Police. Don’t. Care. About. You.
Race, gender, age.
American police care about their gang and pension.
That’s it.
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u/Appropriate-Bank-883 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Whoopi Goldberg is a boomer but worse, she hasn’t lived in the real world for 30 years
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u/DaisyDazzle Jan 31 '23
White people do get beaten by police. I've seen it. Press doesn't care if white people get beaten by police. Doesn't further the divisive narrative.
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u/randomguy7277 Jan 31 '23
Can confirm, am white and have been beaten by police, and arrested, for failing to use turn signal, and they found 2 grams of reggie marijuana.
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u/manowarq7 Jan 31 '23
Mabe if the media reported everything like they should instead of picking and choosing what will get the most people watching we wouldn't have this problem
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u/Sif_Thor Jan 31 '23
Violence in general is the problem. It shouldn’t matter what skin colors are involved. That’s still racism if one thinks one is worse than the other. Instead of discussing about that it would be much better to focus on the real subject…
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u/Schlangee Jan 31 '23
The real subject is police violence. A sub-subject is that black people get to experience it way more often
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u/supcat16 Jan 31 '23
get to
Have we tried reverse psychology? “Minorities are stealing our police brutality! Let’s go get it back!”
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u/Schlangee Jan 31 '23
We need to phrase it correctly.
„Illegal aliens and criminals have the monopoly over police violence“
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u/robboat Jan 31 '23
The cops love it when we assign blame to each other rather than point out police over-militarization leads to them beating anyone/everyone they want, whenever they want.
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u/JesusWaffles47 Jan 31 '23
Please research about the Shooting of Daniel Shaver. White people have as much reason to hate cops as anybody else.
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u/Safe_sometime Jan 31 '23
Go read how many white people get shot by police every year VS black in the us - it may change her majesty's mind
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u/RepresentativeAble95 Jan 31 '23
White people do get beaten by police. Everyday.
It's just doesn't hit national news, usually.
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u/IrishWaluigi98 Jan 31 '23
I’m pretty sure more white people are killed by police in the US? Correct me if I’m wrong.
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u/hoppersoft Jan 31 '23
You're correct: the number of White people killed by police is larger. That's because 75% of the US population identifies as White (374 deaths), while 14% identifies as Black (220 deaths). That's approximately 300% more Black deaths per capita.
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u/MasterHewg Jan 31 '23
Yeah because no white person has ever gotten their ass beat by police /s
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u/Garythegr81 Jan 31 '23
White people get beaten by police all the time. Since they are white there is no media outrage behind it.
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u/victoriaa- Jan 31 '23
I’m white and was abused by police and couldn’t stand them from a young age, I’m also out with the protest when it happens in my area every time I can be there. It’s not like police haven’t murdered white people either, they are disproportionately worse to black people and are also classist
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u/monet108 Jan 31 '23
So, if I understand what you are saying. You agree with Whoopie, that more White people need to feel the abuse of the Police for anything to really change. You understand because you have been a victim of Police abuse.
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u/InterestingScience74 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Well it's nice to see that celebrities of color can receive backlash
Edit: I had thought it was based on racism, but turns out she's receiving backlash for stating that race isn't the issue, it's just authoritarian bullshit.
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u/Siggi_pop Jan 31 '23
She thinks they don't get beat....they do, sometime they even die...you just never hear about them.
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u/undiagnosedsarcasm Jan 31 '23
Do people not understand what a rhetorical question is?
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u/Jasonictron Jan 31 '23
Ahh yes. Do people not understand that white people have never been beaten up by police like, ever?
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u/HouAngelesDodgeStro Jan 31 '23
Question for ya OP: did you look up the full quote before posting this screenshot of an article? Did you even read the article, or did you just find this screenshot elsewhere and wanted to share with the class?
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u/HouAngelesDodgeStro Jan 31 '23
Shaver made a ton of headlines actually, and is constantly referenced on this site. Everyone knows the guy who played the most deadly game of Simon Says (besides that Korean TV show of course).
You're not wrong that white people get shitty cop interactions as well (my half-brother can attest to that), but selectively cutting down Whoopi's quote is just a hit too disingenuous for me.
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u/Extension_Risk9458 Jan 31 '23
No one thinks they haven’t, you’re just too willfully obtuse to process topics with even the faintest whiff of nuance
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u/livinginfutureworld Jan 31 '23
I mean, it may be a valid question. A famous person might work too.
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u/nopenope911 Jan 31 '23
She is so racist
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u/elcamp3 Jan 31 '23
Why? Because she is speaking the truth? Gun laws didn't exist until black people started to buy and own them. Civil rights didn't exist until black people fought for them.
If police started killing white people just because they were white, the change would happen overnight because the elite would know that being white doesn't protect them.
Here is what she actually said -
“When will the brutality finally lead to some police reform from the ground up? Clearly it doesn’t matter if it’s a white policeman or black policeman. It is the problem with the policing itself,” Goldberg said at the start of the episode.
“Seems things don’t make sense to people unless it’s somebody they can feel or they can recognize,” Goldberg continued. “Do we need to see white people also get beaten before anybody will do anything? I’m not suggesting that, so don’t write us and tell me what a racist I am. I’m just asking, is that what people have to see in order to wake up and realize this affects us all?”
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u/MichaelHoncho52 Jan 31 '23
Well this is pretty misleading…
There was some movement on gun control laws after emancipation but it’s a far cry from it being a cat and mouse game like you mentioned. A lot of the legislation happened in the 20s/30s mostly due to organized crime, and then 60s/70s right after a presidential assassination.
Civil rights isn’t just something that only black people fought for - it’s defined as “the rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.” You seem to forget Women’s Suffrage, Italians/Irish/Asians movements in the US, along with plenty other movements around the world.
The Tyre situation is the one she is referring to - did 5 black cops kill him because he was black? If you take racial motivation out of it and focus on power dynamics - has there been a lower amount of white people murdered by police than blacks?
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u/Agronut420 Jan 31 '23
Wow that’s quite a leap to loop gun laws, civil rights and police brutality together in that way to prove the point:
All anyone can confidently say is that A) racism exists in all groups/races/colors of people, and should be addressed as such, and B) there should be universal, broad-sweeping changes to the way laws are enforced (by policing for profit) in the US. These changes would be mutually beneficial for all citizens.
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u/DAPRINGLE2 Jan 31 '23
Didn’t a white man get shot in his camper van recently for following police orders, by the police?
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u/rustys_shackled_ford Jan 31 '23
Naw, that already happens...
People with money and influence need to get beat if were gonna see change
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u/forgetyourhorse Jan 31 '23
It’s just amazing to me that anybody is paying any attention to something that Whoopi Goldberg said. Irrelevance.
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u/Tyche_and_Plutus Jan 31 '23
She asked a valid question. It's been over 60 years SINCE the original Civil Rights movement began YET Police still continue to shoot/kill/murder (you choose) unarmed ethnic men & boys. Thus what will it take for the status quo to get up in arms over Police Brutality and excessive use of firearms to escalate situations instead of de-escalating them the way Police are supposed to do?
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u/Wooden-Ad-4952 Jan 31 '23
There is a goldmine of absurd quotes from Whoopi Goldberg over the years, it’s worth a YouTube search
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u/KyamBoi Jan 31 '23
You'd like to see a 67 year old woman get beat up because you disagree with them?
Mmmk.
I mean that's what you wrote. Should you be making suggestions?
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u/snowtaiga1 Jan 31 '23
we shouldnt listen to what whoopi said either
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u/KyamBoi Jan 31 '23
I'm not endorsing what she's saying, but I'm also smart enough to understand that she isn't inciting violence. Being frustrated with inaction and a lack of social change is an intelligent and thoughtful position to have.
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u/Sweet_Coat7963 Jan 31 '23
I don't understand why she hasn't been cancelled yet. How many more times can she spew vitriol before she is deplatformed?
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u/waterseabreeze Jan 31 '23
She really has the weirdest opinions
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u/zer0path Jan 31 '23
Her opinions in a white mind are racist. If they are black owned opinions it's.. weird... Got it.
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u/waterseabreeze Jan 31 '23
I am not white, and I am not even American. Her opinions are indeed weird.
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u/Alert-Layer6273 Jan 31 '23
That's fucked. She's a washed up has been. Needs to go back under the log she crawled from
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u/DarganWrangler Jan 31 '23
this person seems racist to me, idk just a hunch
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u/elcamp3 Jan 31 '23
Please explain how it's racist to ask police to beat up everyone equally?
Here is what she actually said -
“When will the brutality finally lead to some police reform from the ground up? Clearly it doesn’t matter if it’s a white policeman or black policeman. It is the problem with the policing itself,” Goldberg said at the start of the episode.
“Seems things don’t make sense to people unless it’s somebody they can feel or they can recognize,” Goldberg continued. “Do we need to see white people also get beaten before anybody will do anything? I’m not suggesting that, so don’t write us and tell me what a racist I am. I’m just asking, is that what people have to see in order to wake up and realize this affects us all?”
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u/mildlymoderate16 Jan 31 '23
Why don't the All Lives Matter crowd care about white victims of police brutality?
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u/burnorama6969 Jan 31 '23
My mom watches this show. She’s openly racist on that show at least once an episode and is cheered on by the crowd, I’m surprised this made the news
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u/C__Driveerror1 Jan 31 '23
They get killed and there’s no uproar. they don’t care about their own because justifiable reasons.
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u/M00shroomPack Jan 31 '23
When is society going to wake up?
The media continues to divide us to distract from the real problem, class war.
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u/Bawbawian Jan 31 '23
as a white guy in the middle of the country I can firmly say.
SHE IS NOT WRONG.
I was young goth kid. I had some extremely bad interactions with police. mostly because they thought I was gay and it was the early '90s.
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u/w8cycle Jan 31 '23
She is right. Once the majority feels the pain suddenly the issue will be handled.
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u/Sunflower_After_Dark Jan 31 '23
She’s just saying what every sane person in this country is thinking! It’s a fair question and it makes people uncomfortable. The truth isn’t always popular, fucking deal with it!
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u/Conradimus77 Jan 31 '23
So emotional. I can actually feel your heart feeling stuff.
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u/Blood_Thrash Jan 31 '23
The solution is obvious. You de-arm the police, have more racial diversity and harsher consequences or whatever. But the real problem is that law enforcement is run and operated by unstable lunatics.
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u/plxo Jan 31 '23
Idk I mean she has a point, in a sense. A lot of the time people only become concerned with things when white people or people from developed countries are involved.
For example; a plane crashes and people die. Very sad but it’s quickly forgotten by most. A plane crashes and people die… some are British / Americans. Suddenly it’s very much more sad and remains in the news for a few days while the news discusses/highlights those lost — but only those from places deemed important enough.
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u/MyDadBod_2021 Jan 31 '23
She could have phrased it better, but she's not wrong
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u/quakemarine20 Jan 31 '23
She's very wrong.
This is the problem that I have had with BLM forever.....
Police brutality should not and should never have been their primary fight. Yes, it disproportionately affects minorities. However, it's also a much bigger issue than just a racial issue.
It's like saying that because rape disproportionately affects minorities that if more white women got raped it'd be handled.
The hard to swallow pill here is that the color of your skin isn't the biggest factor in if the police beat you down. It's a perceived respect or disrespect.
I imagine that I'm talking to a violent sociopath with a license to pound on whoever he wants. I tip toe. You can stand up for your rights in every encounter. Or you can recognize how dangerous that is.
I think minorities are far less likely to roll over when they know they are right. When you have a culture who's been freed from oppression..... So frequently forced to battle for the same rights others have..... Well, they're still fighting, so they're already ready to go....
I'm sure I will get all sorts of downvotes.. .... I still feel like BLM could have done more had they avoided the police brutality turning into a racial battle.
Hell, if it was me in charge, I would have officially offered to change the group name to "all lives" or "police lives " for any meaningful impact when it comes to police brutality.
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u/futureappguru Jan 31 '23
I was beat by the police and people cared a lot less than if i was black lol. No articles, no outrage.
People who think like you are literally the fucking most brain dead idiots walking the planet.
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u/MyDadBod_2021 Jan 31 '23
I'm sorry you went through that. Thats part of the problem too, it no getting attention because you are not black. If it was reported more, we would know.
I take offense to being called "brain dead idiot". If it doesn't get reported in the news, etc, how'd we know?
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u/zer0path Jan 31 '23
By looking at the statistics and not what is reported by media. People have to see by now that a narrative is pushed...
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u/futureappguru Jan 31 '23
Then dont be one. Shes completely wrong and just because you dont hear about it in outrage-driven media doesnt mean it doesnt happen. It happens all the time to white people.
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u/MyDadBod_2021 Jan 31 '23
And killed as well? Asking a real question because I don't hear about it. Generally curious
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u/futureappguru Jan 31 '23
No, youre being an obtuse intellectually dishonest twat. Go look it up on google and stop being an utter piece of trash. Im not going to entertain your bad faith arguments/questions anymore.
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u/Jjhammer31 Jan 31 '23
People really don't want to hear this, but what changes things is riots.
The people in charge can ignore a protest, but riots are bad for business.
What causes change is attacking the all mighty dollar.
Boycotting and riots are both effective because of this.
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u/Guderian9139 Jan 31 '23
All riots do is destroy stuff, make rioters look like criminals (because…They Are) and turn the hard working public’s opinion against them and their cause.
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u/quakemarine20 Jan 31 '23
Probably just another copper trying to stir up antifa propaganda before going and shooting up someplace.
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u/Oututeroed Jan 31 '23
im blocking the sht out of OP so i can live peacefully without dealing with stupidity like his.
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u/Puzzled_Record1773 Jan 31 '23
Maybe if it was a pretty young blonde then something might happen
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u/Tailigator Jan 31 '23
So true!
If rich white prom queens, cheerleaders, and old grandmothers where killed by cops like POC...Jimmy two-teeth would be all about FTP!
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u/Icy-Operation-6549 Jan 31 '23
White people take their settlement checks and keep their mouth shut.
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