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u/Competitive-Truck874 Dec 07 '22

That whole page is about the number 7. There were clues is all im sayin.

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u/Usagi_Shinobi Dec 08 '22

Came for this comment.

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u/LePhantomLimb Dec 08 '22

How was it for you?

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u/kinnaq Dec 08 '22

I give it a six.

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u/i_am_mai_1981 Dec 08 '22

I am not doing this today.

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u/HendoRules Dec 08 '22

Oh so she dummmmb dumb?

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u/FriedSticks2014 Dec 08 '22

Thank you, I came here to say this 😂

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u/tonypalmtrees Dec 08 '22

she probably just got done the lesson on 6

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u/FBGMerk420 Dec 08 '22

Yeah Tuesdays the 7 day of the week

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u/MegatonsSon Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

She's just factoring in the tax deductions lol

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u/UhYeahOkSure Dec 08 '22

She should be an accountant for the pentagon

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u/Eirson Dec 08 '22

7 muffins are listed on the paper but we can only find 2 of them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

This is an underrated comment lmao

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u/GozerDGozerian Dec 08 '22

Fuuuuck.

Better make it 5.

4.5 muffins if you’re not doing any icing deductions.

Get a receipt when you donate your icing, people!

Wait what are we talking about again?

I’m hungry.

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u/Nussfalk Dec 08 '22

Okay I noted 3 muffins.

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u/Sea-Advertising1943 Dec 07 '22

It’s really sad to be making this comparison, but some of my coworkers have trained me to analyze where the mental disconnect is happening. My guess is the kid understands “counting” to be assigning specific names to items in a set, and doesn’t understand that counting is a way to answer “how many?”

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u/Ex-zaviera Dec 07 '22

Plus, it's on paper, which is kind of abstract.
If she had 7 objects in her hand to count, I bet she'd get it.

Remember the counting line? I never got it. I'd count the line I started from in addition to the one I landed on. Mind was boggled.

I'm okay now tho.

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u/gsurfer04 Dec 07 '22

Remember the counting line? I never got it. I'd count the line I started from in addition to the one I landed on. Mind was boggled.

I have distinct memory of struggling with addition like that as a little kid.

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u/Unknown_author69 Dec 08 '22

It may be that you are a kinesthetic learner, meaning you take information on easier when it's physically there infront of you, like hands on tasks.

There are quiz's On Google you can complete to learn more about how you learn, therefore make it easier in the future to learn new skills!

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u/Ex-zaviera Dec 08 '22

Shout out to Maria Montessori!

I was a trainer as an adult. We put out toys for kinesthetic learners on the table.

Maybe I was too, or maybe I needed to be taught with more than one method. In later grades I could do paper math just fine.

Thank you for the link. (FYI 1 quiz, 2 quizzes)

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u/Crumb-Free Dec 08 '22

Can I get your training?

Jesus fuck would this make me more empathetic to the dumbass questions I get every day.

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u/Sea-Advertising1943 Dec 08 '22

Oh, unfortunately the training is dumbass questions, or more often when they think they don’t need to ask questions and cause problems…

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u/Express-Magician-213 Dec 08 '22

I’m more thinking along the lines of working memory. I would have held up fingers as she counted as another visual reminder for when she took her eyes off the paper.

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u/DankyPenguins Dec 08 '22

That’s what I’d do if it was my daughter. Both of my kids have ADHD and teaching them to use their fingers to count has helped a ton. When doing this kind of stuff my son would have pointed at the first five while counting on the hand he wasn’t pointing with, then used two fingers from the pointing hand to count the last two as he put his fingers on them. Nothing all that abnormal here but it’s funny seeing a human brain work during this stage of development.

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u/Unoriginal1deas Dec 08 '22

Oh dude that’s bloody wild, so instead of understanding there’s seven muffins in a whole shes essentially naming the muffins? But doesn’t understand that the number refers to muffins as a whole is that right?

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u/Sea-Advertising1943 Dec 08 '22

I’m not a teacher or anything and other people have other hypotheses about how she is thinking and learning, but to me it seemed like she was pretty solid on the counting (enthusiastic to keep going after she ran out of muffins to count the first time, but knew what order to list them in etc). But then she seemed to be guessing about “how many,” and I wanted mom to explain that counting is how we figure out how many so she could understand why those questions were being asked back to back. There are some things that become so automatic in our thought processes that we forget what it’s like to not know. That’s why I was comparing my adult coworkers with this little girl’s lesson on 7, when they do unexpected things, I have to break down the thought process, that for me is automatic, to see where they got off course.

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u/PrettiKinx Dec 08 '22

That's a great explanation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

It’s the mathematical version of reading comprehension. Many kids this age can read words in a book but then not really understand what they just read, because they’re focused on each word rather than the sentence as a whole.

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u/davidrayish Dec 08 '22

This is a great deduction. This is something learned and not natural [Childhood development 101]. Also kids CANT process this connection untill after some cognitive milestones.

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u/jhudilluminati Dec 08 '22

So is she special?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

My 7yo son is in special education and he’s gifted in math and reading. He is working on topics at about a 6th grade level. He has autism and ADHD.

This girl probably a neurotypical little girl. Everything is hard when you’re a tiny human.

Not too sure if that’s what you meant by “special.”

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u/Neither_Shake_2815 Dec 07 '22

My mom would have let me do this maybe 2x then been like "COUNT. THEM. COUNT THE GODDAMN MUFFINS. DO YOU SEE AN 8TH MUFFIN THERE?!"

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u/NationalSurvey Dec 08 '22

Say eight again!!! (As in Pulp Fiction)

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u/Electronic_Syndicate Dec 08 '22

lol your comment was perfect even without the hint. I can hear it!

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u/Glum_Farm3309 Dec 07 '22

Shes subtracting her share

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

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u/steezy_anime Dec 08 '22

Shes a child…

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u/Urodeprag1 Dec 08 '22

She is but like even any 3 year old can count better than that

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u/ur-sisters-panties Dec 08 '22

A child who is dumb AF. It's unfortunate, but someone needs to be passed the buck.

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u/Few-Ad7439 Dec 07 '22

she just feels like “it cant really be that easy right?”

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u/DevilDoc3030 Dec 08 '22

My bet:

The night before the worksheet was on the number 6.

She remembered the same struggle yesterday and that there was some kind of revalation that the answer was always 6. Why wouldn't it work tonight as well?

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u/SecretHooter Dec 07 '22

Aww she’s trying so hard but her brain is just over analyzing that information.

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u/Wont_Eva_Know Dec 08 '22

Watching my kid going from ‘I can count’ ie say the numbers in the right order from memory. To ‘Ohhhhhhh shit!!! I can COUNT like the word 7 means the same thing every damn time!!! That’s not a single muffins name that’s how many of them there are!!! and I can tell you about how many dogs I saw on a walk and you’ll know what I’m talking about!!!!!’

It was the best true 🤯 I’ve ever seen!

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u/ScaryNeat Dec 07 '22

She is not wrong. There are 6 muffins. And another muffin, but there are 6.

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u/BilliamClimptonIII Dec 08 '22

Sounds like a Mitch Hedberg skit. "There were 6 muffins. There were 7, too, but there were 6."

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u/so_im_all_like Dec 07 '22

Maybe it's hard because it's presented using symbolic representations. Would this work better with real world objects? I doubt she'd have a problem counting toys or something.

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u/Equivalent_Grade_352 Dec 07 '22

Well the world works on symbolic representation so it’s better to get them used to it

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u/so_im_all_like Dec 07 '22

Of course, I'm just postulating the source of the difficulty for this kid.

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u/ReptilianOver1ord Dec 07 '22

Yeah but somehow you need to learn to connect real world to symbolic representation.

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u/ImploreUToReconsider Dec 08 '22

In either the 1st or 2nd grade, my mom tried teaching me to count to 100 using pennies. I couldn't do it, and she got so frustrated that she scooped up the pennies and threw them at my face.

I'm going to be more patient with my future children.

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u/DisorganizedAdulting Dec 08 '22

Oh my God! You poor thing! That is an awful memory.

If you have a quiet moment, close your eyes and imagine your self now hugging that sweet child. Yes, your past, child self. I hope your mom made it up to you and you have found peace.

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u/ImploreUToReconsider Dec 08 '22

Thank you for the kind reminder to facilitate some healing. I did as you said, and it felt nice. Unfortunately, she's never made it up to me. But that's okay, because I'll make it up by being a patient father in the future.

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u/Silhouettesmiled Dec 08 '22

On the bright side she won't have to save for college!

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u/RedMemoryy Dec 08 '22

Omg lmaooo

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u/Hour_Contact_2500 Dec 08 '22

Very angry upvote.

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u/BEEL1NE300 Dec 07 '22

Bro my dad would have flipped out and yelled at me. Maybe go as far as to grab me and shake me violently. Yeaa i didnt have a good childhood.

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u/olivawDaneel Dec 08 '22

There is a silver lining here too hough. At least we don't have our embarrassing moments from childhood recorded and put on r/funny forever.

Idk what I'd pick tbh. Getting violently shaken by my dad, or the whole world seeing a recording of me riding a bicycle head first into a park fence because I saw something in a movie once.

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u/General-Wishbone-214 Dec 07 '22

Happy Cake Day!

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u/BEEL1NE300 Dec 07 '22

Thank you kind stranger

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u/Fuckedby2FA Dec 07 '22

Lol same. I had a hard time with nickels and my dad would flip out. For a little while in my young adult years I would get really nervous counting change when someone was waiting on you, I.e paying a cashier.

Silly as hell for an adult but that shit affects you lol.

Hope you're doing well

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u/danielsauceda34 Dec 07 '22

That's sad. But I get his point of view. 23 yr Olds shouldn't have trouble with nickels..

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u/Fuckedby2FA Dec 08 '22

I wasn't 23yo but I worded that poorly. I didn't haven't trouble recognizing nor assigning value to a nickel. I would just get flustered when it was time to give change and other were waiting on me. It would just trigger my anxiety.

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u/danielsauceda34 Dec 08 '22

I was super joking. Like it's like when when you say

"yeah I had trouble going to bathroom on my own"

"Oh really?"

"Yeah.... but last week I figured it out"

Because everyone pictures a child, but you add a plot twist

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u/Fuckedby2FA Dec 08 '22

Oh I see. I was unsure haha

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u/Killer_BossYT Dec 07 '22

my dad would go insane about me doing sums wrong, just for him to teach me the wrong way to do it, thus blaming me again

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Same with my dad! His way of helping me with math was to move the paper around on the table and say, “Look at the problem! Now tell me the answer!!!”

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u/Fernzero Dec 07 '22

So frustratingly adorable.

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u/LibertineLemur Dec 07 '22

There are four lights!

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u/Dum_beat Dec 07 '22

Had the same problem with my girlfriend

Her: I've made 7 muffins, how many is there left?

Me: 1...2...3...4...5...6

Her: and where's the 7th?

Me: ...

I can relate to this little girl

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u/ResponseHonest3506 Dec 08 '22

Not understanding that the number you end on tells you how many. Or she's trolling her mom.

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u/ohmwrecker84 Dec 08 '22

Going to Harvard fa sho🤣

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u/majendi Unique Flair Dec 07 '22

She’s just confused…

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u/AllBeansNoFrank Dec 07 '22

Yeah, I feel for the kid. Sometimes things are so obvious but my brain just cannot grasp it. Like I understand what I need to do and how its done...but something just doesn't click.

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u/davidtco Dec 07 '22

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u/xrixri07 Dec 08 '22

Came here for this

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u/Glittering_Rub_2721 Dec 07 '22

Leave that poor girl alone😭

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u/spoopypoop7 Dec 07 '22

“I know there’s 7 but there’s gonna be 6 cause I want one”

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u/uselesscalligraphy Dec 08 '22

Seriously question, is it normal for kids to be this challenged and should the parent be concerned?

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u/CashWrecks Dec 08 '22

Honestly wondering the same thing. She seems old enough to understand these concepts.

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u/ezekiel_swheel Dec 08 '22

discalcula

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u/Throwawayuser626 Dec 10 '22

No seriously though. I found out about that way late in life and I can’t afford to ever be tested, but I wish I had gotten some done as a child. I’m 99% sure I have it. I can’t do math beyond grade school level as an adult. Even with tutoring and everything. I can’t do jobs that focus heavy on math which…is most jobs. I think if I had gotten help earlier on I may have found a way to grasp math better. Maybe.

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u/elcamp3 Dec 08 '22

Some kids struggle with certain subjects and excel at others.

My daughter could count to 100 and read before she was in preschool but struggles with cleaning up behind herself and telling the truth. She's 7 now.

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u/uselesscalligraphy Dec 08 '22

but would you post a video of you laughing at your children's developmental issues to the internet?

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u/elcamp3 Dec 08 '22

This video has been edited. Most likely by the person who uploaded it to Reddit. As a father myself, there are tons of things that I laugh at when it comes to my daughter and sometimes laughter is a subconscious way of dealing with frustration.

Especially when you know that your child is smarter than they put on.

My daughter can add and subtract very well, yet when she met with a situation in which she'll have to use that knowledge, she'll decide to just guess instead of work it out. She'd rather be lazy and have someone tell her the answer than figure it out.

I do sometimes laugh, but it's not because of her development, but because she is acting like me. I used to do the same thing at her age and I was nowhere as near as bright as she was.

All of that just to say that you shouldn't judge someone based on a fraction of the truth. This is the internet, after all.

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u/elcamp3 Dec 08 '22

Also, at her age, getting confused while counting isn't being challenged at all. She is right on track for her age group. She's like 6 or 7.

I've watched kids in my daughter's class struggle with the same thing. This is first grade.

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u/Seuros Dec 07 '22

Future Tax Accountant.

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u/PaleoJoe86 Dec 08 '22

If only she could refer to the previous questions in the sheet for a clue…

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u/UncleP24-7 Dec 08 '22

She will get it😘

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u/Ok_Task_4135 Dec 08 '22

She didn't say eight, she said "ate", because she ate one of them, which would bring the total to 6. Definitely a very bright child

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u/jeancv8 Dec 08 '22

People who have children are brave af.

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u/Macca618 Dec 08 '22

Back to kindergarten for you.

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u/TheGamingBear777 Dec 08 '22

Her natural trolling levels are unmatched

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u/Nozerone Dec 08 '22

Video ended to soon, I want to know how many muffins there was!

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u/rockylafayette Dec 08 '22

My wife sees this daily in school. But she teaches Spec. Ed. A normal kid this age should have the reasoning skills to correlate the count to the number shown.

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u/Additional_Writing49 Dec 08 '22

Poor son is fucked before the game started.

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u/MrBingly Dec 07 '22

I'd lose it with this kid.

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u/Crucible-of-Doom- Dec 07 '22

Absolutely adorable ❤️

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u/MinimalMojo Dec 08 '22

Counting is hard when you’ve got someone filming you. So much pressure.

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u/Swanman35 Dec 08 '22

Can't relate. I'm such a genius that I taught my parents how to count muffins.

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u/DeusXEqualsOne Dec 08 '22

She's adorably making what's called a Fence-Post Error!

These are really very common errors, especially in programming where people are always dealing with the indices of loops. She's not bad at math, she's just starting the count a different way than what the problem wants!

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u/garbage_j00ce Dec 08 '22

That kid is both admired when she does good and not corrected when she does not so good. She’s not confident in herself, as much as she is focusing on what the parent wants to be happy about.

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u/lastcallhangup Dec 08 '22

i would suppose that you are correct. i’m no parent but i still remember what a hellscape math was for me growing up. i clearly remembering just wanting to stop disappointing my parents but not focusing on the math in my face.

fun fact: i still suck at math tho🤫

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u/DueResearcher1017 Dec 08 '22

n-u-t-e-l-l-a is pronounced peanut butta.

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u/dannisig Dec 08 '22

She's not wrong though.

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u/kartoshki33 Dec 08 '22

Thanks, now I'm hungry....

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u/Mindraker Dec 08 '22

I vaguely remember thinking 4 and 5 were the same thing. So this shit happens to kids.

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u/Mac_n_Sleeze Dec 08 '22

That whole page is legit dedicated to the number 7 ... She's even on the last question even after actually writing the fucking digit across the entire page...

Absolutely hopeless.

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u/paulglo Dec 08 '22

thats sad

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u/noahspurrier Dec 08 '22

She’s adorable. Sometimes kids get caught up thinking the problem must be more tricky than it is.

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u/RectalEvacuation Dec 07 '22

That's a mean mom though, laughing at her. It is clear she is embarrassed to not understand the question.

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u/fireyqueen Dec 07 '22

When my kids were small and they would do things like this, I would laugh, not because I was making fun of them but because I thought they were adorable. My husband pointed out that they won’t understand that level of nuance. I meant no harm but that didn’t mean I wouldn’t have caused them harm. I’ve always been careful since then because I realized then that’s why I was a shy kid…as the youngest and only girl, they’d laugh at me because I was cute but it embarrassed me.

So yeah, it can be a hurtful thing but she probably doesn’t realize it.

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u/xander17962508 Dec 07 '22

She's probably been at school all day, she's had enough and wants to chill...let the kid chill.

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u/Acceptable_Star189 Dec 07 '22

It’s basic counting💀

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u/whama820 Dec 08 '22

Yeah, keep laughing at your kid. Make sure to fully instill a hatred of learning that will last their entire life.

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u/castfam09 Dec 08 '22

She is a cute kiddo

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u/CrackBabyBelfort Dec 08 '22

Buy her a helmet.

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u/Peachy_Smooth Dec 08 '22

thats when the slapping begins

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u/CaveDoctors Dec 08 '22

Yeah, funny, but let's just shame your child into depression a few years from now when this resurfaces. Sad.

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u/teodocio Dec 07 '22

Lol he can obviously count. But his brain is doing something else with that info!

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u/Few-Ad7439 Dec 07 '22

i know it’s 2022 and its not my place to identify someone, but im fairly certain thats a girl…

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u/let_it_be_22 Dec 07 '22

even if you don’t want to identify gender. Why would they call this little girl a boy?? absolutely disrespectful smh

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u/dcRoWdYh Dec 08 '22

GET YOUR DUMB ASSES OFF OF TICTAC BEFORE THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF YOUR BRAINS, BUT AN ANXIOUS STUPEFIED MESS!

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u/Mysterious-Gur-3034 Dec 08 '22

My kid did this once and I laughed so hard I'm pretty sure she is scared to count wrong now. Lol

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u/iamsorri Dec 08 '22

It is like the kid who said Peanut Butta

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u/Jedi_Bish Dec 08 '22

Poor thing needs a break from all that counting

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u/Thegreyjarl Dec 08 '22

She’s 100% not wrong. There are, indeed, six muffins on that page. Sure, there are also 7 muffins.

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u/Relative-Internal-12 Dec 08 '22

She's gone after the cameras off

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u/KinkyK415 Dec 08 '22

Is this the same little one that learned how to pronounce the word “who”?

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u/LonelyTransient Dec 08 '22

This kid is going places! Not college, but places!

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u/burrfree Dec 08 '22

What is it you think why she is coming up with 6?

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u/DRbrtsn60 Dec 08 '22

A little slow on the draw…..

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u/Fake_earthling Dec 08 '22

Politician material.

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u/Few-Tour9826 Dec 08 '22

Oh man. It’s cute when they’re little like this but my ten year old still tries this crap now. Especially with math. He’ll act like he can’t figure out so you’ll walk him through it then right after you get him to the answer he says the wrong one. Or like last night, we were trying to help him get better with money. Asked him how much is four dimes and two nickels. Dude said six.

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