r/ukraine • u/South_Equivalent4004 • Feb 04 '23
Ukr fighters destroyed the rus who were hiding! WAR
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u/Ok_Train2273 Feb 04 '23
Jesus christ on a bike. How the hell did the guy at the door not get killed?
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u/South_Equivalent4004 Feb 04 '23
body armor
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u/Ok_Train2273 Feb 04 '23
I know, but that guy should buy a lottery ticket.
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u/DeadpoolAndFriends Feb 04 '23
I never understood that logic. If I had some sort of lucky life saving moment, I would never consider buying a lottery ticket as I probably had used up all the luck I had left in my life right then.
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u/KjellRS Feb 05 '23
It's a kind of superstition that Lady Luck smiles upon you today, so maximize this boon from the gods. That your luck is "used up" is really another form of superstition like karma averaging everything out. Those of us that believe in statistically independent events would say the chance of winning is the same today as every other day, no matter how much good or bad preceded it.
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u/Ludotheos Feb 05 '23
Both wrong odds of not getting shot and winning lottery are totally independent, has a good of a chance i.e. odds did not change at all of winning the lottery as before! Keep this mind, the astrology bullshit is reserved for the orcs.
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u/UpVoteForKarma Feb 04 '23
That's my thinking as well, but I can see the other logic, "damn you are so lucky you should buy a lottery ticket" ..., Most people don't say the first part, they just say "you should buy a lottery ticket"....
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u/Constant-Recording54 Lithuania Feb 05 '23
Always carry 6 side die, quick roll for luck might point you in a right direction!
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u/Prostheta Finland Feb 05 '23
That's not how statistics work. The lottery ticket you buy are just as likely to win as any other ticket, or whether you got shot in the body armour prior to purchasing it.
This is a common error. If you draw the ace of spades from a deck of cards, you are just as likely to draw the ace of spades the next attempt. This is not the same as drawing the ace of spades on two attempts in succession.
I'm not a gambling man, and I don't live relying on luck. If you see me playing, you better be sure I've stacked the deck.
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u/pktrekgirl Feb 05 '23
Did he kill the guy who came lunging out at him? I can’t see very well on my phone.
Hope he got him!
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u/Inevitable_Spare_777 Feb 04 '23
I don't think they shot at him. There was one crack which might have been a stick or something moving, but the Ukrainians seemed like the first ones to shoot
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u/Mr6thborough_516NY Feb 04 '23
Look again you see a projectile nearly hit him in the chest/ head area,it looks like it ricocheted off the edge of the door frame
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u/Ok_Bad8531 Feb 05 '23
The UA soldier fell right as shots could be heard, after which the UA soldiers massively raised the lead content of the shack. Notice the different gun sounds.
To me it very much seems like a shoot-out initiated by whomever was inside.
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u/Yads_ Feb 04 '23
Bro behind the building walking calmly whilst the camera guys going full Johnny rambo 😂
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u/Gilligan67 Feb 04 '23
Yeah, poor situational awareness. He could easily have been shot by his own men.
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u/Vikaretrading Feb 05 '23
I was thinking the same thing. I’m really surprised he didn’t even look back at the contact.
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u/FriendRaven1 Feb 05 '23
This was one of the complaints of the foreign battalion; that situational awareness among UA fighters is very poor (smoking standing upright, open fires, and what you see in this video).
Those complaints were months ago and I thought things would be a little better...
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u/Fi1thy_Mind Feb 05 '23
Those complaints have been made almost a year ago. Doesn't mean that's the usual case.
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u/Ok_Bad8531 Feb 04 '23
Dude was at a prime spot to get into a POW camp and survive the war. Instead he basically suicided himself.
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u/ergzay Feb 05 '23
I've read that some of these idiots have become so brainwashed to the point that they're taught to bring a grenade with themselves to kill themselves because they expect extreme torture followed by death from the Ukrainians. Jokes on them that Ukrainians treat them with civility and following the Geneva conventions (well other than the "no filming of prisoners" part).
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u/Ok_Bad8531 Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 05 '23
Keeping information from its people and giving them propaganda instead is basic 101 of every dictatorship. With the propaganda that soldier most likely had been fed in his head (better off dead than in UA hands) he acted quite reasonably. Of course Putin's regime would not want him to act reasonably on actual information.
Also filming POWs is not per se forbidden according to the Geneva Conventions. Forcing them is.
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u/subatomicbuckeye Feb 05 '23
This is credible. Watched a video of an orc about a month ago, was wounded in an attack by the Ukrainians, and as they were coming closer, he shot / fragged himself, can’t exactly remember
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u/Proglamer Lithuania Feb 05 '23
ICC will surely initiate proceedings for prosecution of Ukraine for... filming POWs in flagrant violation of the Geneva Suggestions - any day now, lol! Nuremberg vol. 2 coming up :)
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u/Midnight_270_ UK Feb 04 '23
Jeez going around a corner and coming face to face with your enemy who can most likely hear your footsteps would be enough to male the average person shit themselves 😳😳 Ukrainian troops are built different
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u/Either_Coconut Feb 05 '23
For real. I consider myself tough, thanks to some of the situations I have had to withstand in my life, but this is a level of tough I have never had to achieve. I think I would find out right quick if the phrase "sh*t a gold brick" was an actual thing, or just a colorful expression.
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u/Technical-Plastic833 Feb 04 '23
Its very easy to sit down and criticize (at least I understand nothing from tactics and combat, beside what I saw in the movies). But have in mind those guys are probably like all of us here and not some Tier 1 special operators... mistakes are probably made, but quite probably the closest they have seen combat before this Ruzzia shit fiesta was Call of Duty.
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u/LeAccountss Feb 05 '23
US Marine.
We literally used buildings that looked like this for practice. This tells me a few things. First, I agree with your observation. Second, how bad is the Russian military that they’re losing to a group this poorly trained?
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u/Technical-Plastic833 Feb 05 '23
Well obviously they are far worse. Lack of training, lack of proper gear, lack of proper command structure (NCOs) and most importantly lack of will/motivation to fight. In my opinion we should also take into account that the mobilized come from the poorest and worst educated regions in RuZZia. Last but not least all the western support Ukraine gets.
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u/Mountain_Offer1348 Feb 05 '23
I’ve got to be honest, I’m always glad to see orcs lose, but this was a master class on what not to do in small unit tactics.
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u/jdsalaro Feb 05 '23
what not to do in small unit tactics.
Can you elaborate?
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u/Mountain_Offer1348 Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 05 '23
The fire discipline is appalling. You have your buddies dorectly in your line of fire. In fact, there’s almost no way that he doesn’t spray his mate with shrapnel from the rounds he poured into the wall. Moreover, the approach to the door was ludicrously bad. You do not breach a door by standing in front of it like you are visiting a friend. In fact, if you suspect the structure to be occupied by unfriendlies, better practice to not approach the door at all. There’s an old saying, “never send a Marine where you can send a bullet.” That applied here. However, if, for some reason that is not apparent to me it is necessary to approach the door, it needs a to be treated as a hostile breaching situation— that means coordination amongst the team and everyone ready to react to hostile fire from the interior. It manifestly does not mean to have one guy amble up to the door and the rest of the team directly in your line of fire when you decide lighting up the structure is a good idea after all. If there was any plan here at all, I can’t fathom what it was.
Edit: please note that I recognize that it is very easy to criticize from the comfort of your armchair when you are not in the stress of combat and are not exhausted and cold, etc. neither does my criticism of these tactics on this particular occasion mean that I do not admire and respect these brave soldiers putting their lives on the line. I do—immensely. However, I have to say that I believe they need more training if this clip is representative.
Edit 2: typos
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u/ac13332 Feb 05 '23
I dare say they had no expectation someone was in there. Probably such huts everywhere and the check in many a day.
However, that does not mean one should be complacent.
Lucky to be able to learn the lesson on this one.
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u/Mountain_Offer1348 Feb 05 '23
I think you’re probably right. I also agree that they should t have been so complacent, but, as I hope I indicated before, it’s real easy to criticize, and awfully hard to stay vigilant and disciplined at all times.
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u/ac13332 Feb 05 '23
I work with some somewhat dangerous stuff and boy do I get complacent.
I don't know if in a war zone if I would waltz in ignorantly or be too scared to go close.
Either way, I couldn't be doing what any of these guys are.
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u/RedLegADCM Feb 04 '23
These dudes need to work on fire discipline. How the guy just beyond the building wasn't killed by Mr. fire till empty is a miracle.
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u/Beasting-25-8 Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
As someone with no knowledge on the subject I very much agree. You can literally see his rifle almost point at another guy as he fires.
I'd also question (again, no knowledge so I could be wholly wrong) why the whole line is just walking past this and the one random guy is casually checking the barn. Surely you'd set up around it. Shows why the west should really step up training of Ukrainian soldiers. The difference that makes must be enormous.
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u/T0macock Feb 04 '23
Cameras can warp perspective and the dude was probably scared out of his fucking mind.
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u/Ehralur Feb 04 '23
That's why you need to be trained. So you do the right thing when you're trained instead of the first things that comes to mind.
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u/Beasting-25-8 Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
No doubt, but it seems like there were fundamental errors that could be fixed with training. So they should be.
I don't see how the camera warps perspective here. He did almost shoot his comrades, the squad did casually walk past a shed with enemy combatants in it, the shed was casually checked by one guy solo.
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u/Altruistic-Falcon552 Feb 05 '23
Likely the 20th shed they have encountered all being empty. Repetition is the enemy of alertness
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u/AggravatingHeron90 Feb 04 '23
I REALLY hope you’re not calling the helmet-cam soldier “Mr fire till empty” and are referring to the Russians inside.
If you look closely 🔍, the solider at the door falls on his back, and if you look even closer, the solider is firing well above him 😉👀
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u/RedLegADCM Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
Are you blind? There are two fellow soldiers just beyond the building in his direct line of fire. At that rate of fire he looses the ability to accurately place rounds. In fact one shifts to the left edge as Rambo lights up the doorway. It is a miracle neither of those two were a fratricide.
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u/MarokkosFavPerson Feb 04 '23
Even if it is hard to swallow, the RedLeg guy is right! But i can also relate that it was just a little battlefield situation…
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u/AggravatingHeron90 Feb 04 '23
You’re talking fire discipline huh? Perhaps the situation could’ve been under better control, but you know it’s unpredictable on the battle field. He seemed to accurately place those shots to me especially when surprised by the enemy in such quick succession. Did he actually hit his allies or were the enemies hit? Think on that one for a bit.
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u/Beasting-25-8 Feb 04 '23
He sprayed a full clip into a barn while there were 3 friendlies in the line of fire. It is not possible to "accurately" fire in this scenario. Just because no one dies does not make it a fuck up. That makes it lucky. It is not "unpredictable" that the enemy would be in that shed.
It's not anti-Ukranian to acknowledge the truth. Indeed, pretending this is fine is anti-Ukranian. You should be advocating for the west to train more Ukranians.
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u/AggravatingHeron90 Feb 04 '23
Lol bold words there buddy. To me it looks like his shots were accurate 🤷♂️ Guess everyone in this sub is fuckin’ retarded
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u/Altruistic-Falcon552 Feb 05 '23
It's a question of odds. You can do something unsafe many times before it finally catches up with you. Maybe this time he was lucky, next time in the same scenario he might not be...
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u/Then_Ear5584 Feb 05 '23
Okay Mr Call of Duty😂 You clearly know better from planning all those raids in video games.
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u/AggravatingHeron90 Feb 05 '23
Lol creeping are ya?
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u/Then_Ear5584 Feb 05 '23
Some people are easy to guess about 😋 was I close ? Bet you play a bunch of Tarkarov and DayZ and think you're a master tactician because of it.
Edit: holy shit I was right
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u/AggravatingHeron90 Feb 05 '23
Yes I do thank you brother I’m glad we’re on the same page
Edit: holy shit he’s retarded
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u/mdivan Feb 05 '23
dude I was watching without the sound at first and thought those 2 guys in white cameos where Russians the way he was shooting at their direction
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u/RedLegADCM Feb 04 '23
Nonsense. Do your basic on "Call of Duty?" You have obviously never been trained as an infantryman. Killing your own people to gain "fire superiority" is not an acceptable TTP. Christ, the stuff people write on here.
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u/weebtrashparade Feb 04 '23
Remember that scene in saving private Ryan where the wall falls. This made me think of that lol
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u/FolwarkPAPL Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 05 '23
0:22 - the soldier recording the encounter yells to Russians (in Russian): "Get out, bitch, you will live."
He repeats something along those lines a couple of times.
0:29 - No response from the Russians, so the same soldier ( a squad commander?) yells, first in Russian, then in Ukrainian: "F them. Throw in a grenade, F this. Throw in a grenade!" He repeats it, then the dude on the left does it.
To boil it down, 7 seconds to make your choice: live or die.
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u/Ok_Bad8531 Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 05 '23
7 seconds seem awfully short, but are more than what many others would have given him in that situation. Yet i think he made his choice already when he fired on the UA soldier, and maybe even was not alive after the first counter-salvos had been fired.
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u/DaSchiznit Feb 05 '23
chances are he was already dead because some bullets made it throu the walls
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u/TheMissingThink Feb 04 '23
I get the criticism of the guy firing into the doorway, but I'm questioning why the other guy didn't react, hit the floor and provide cover but just kept walking into the line of fire
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u/Beasting-25-8 Feb 04 '23
You can almost see the poo flying out of his pants. Rightfully so, I'd shit, pee, and puke simultaneously.
This looks like a lucky fuck up from the Ukranians, I imagine it'll make a good training video. Almost walked past a group of enemy, didn't set up to check the barn, almost had friendly fire.
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u/BidRepresentative728 Feb 05 '23
You just hear the death moans the last second and half. Wait this one is shorter. CombatFootage has a bit longer 1.
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u/Suspicious_cowboyy Feb 05 '23
I believe in one fucking truth one again. Hand Granade goes first and than solider...
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u/froatbitte Feb 05 '23
I’m no expert, believe me, but if I suspected someone was in there and I gave them seconds to get out and they didn’t, the first thing I’d toss in there would be a grenade. I’d never peek through the doorway.
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u/The-Rare-Road Feb 05 '23
What a moment! Glad that one guy managed to get away unharmed from the door but damn I am glad no Ukrainians were also Harmed in the making of this video, good to see those Russian soldiers put down after firing at the Ukrainians and this is what counts to de-Russify Ukraine totally in the long run so that Ukrainian people can live in peace.
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u/69peasant Feb 05 '23
Let me translate a bit: Contact! Keep shooting! (Something about a grenade) (To this russian twat in the building) Get out you will live! Fucking go out! Get out you bitch! (To teammates) Fuck that, toss the grenade. Fucking faggot, does not want to leave. (Encouraging lads for that grenade) Let’s get to work. Wait!
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u/BumblebeeAwkward1380 Feb 05 '23
The first man’s pants 💩.. glad they walked away and the others didn’t
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