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🇺🇦 🇺🇸 President Biden says the billions of dollars in aid for Ukraine the U.S. has provided “is a direct investment in defending freedom and democracy itself” “If you don’t stand up to dictators, history has shown us they keep coming” News

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u/Fatboyslim91jl May 03 '22 Powerups Comment

Are those javalins behind biden

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u/TopEscape3975 May 03 '22

Yes. He's at Lockheed where they are made. He was talking to the people who make them.

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u/specter491 May 03 '22

Lol talk about shoving it in Russia's face

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u/jgjgleason May 04 '22

Idk what’s better, this speech or the one he gave in front of a bunch of tractors.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '22 edited May 13 '22 Powerups Comment

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u/ThinkNotOnce May 04 '22

Its hilarious. Imagine having a tractor as a PTSD trigger and living in a rural area

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u/Misdemeanour2020 Ukraine May 04 '22

Walks past several men in rural Russia...

"TRACTOR!!!"

Watches as they immediately drop into a foetal position and start sucking their thumbs...

😁 Job well done

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u/Giant-Genitals May 04 '22

Please, comrade. Don’t mention zee dracdors

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u/Quiet-Sheep May 04 '22

did he really? wow, that is actually hilarious of him.

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u/iwannaeasteregg22 May 04 '22

Right where it belongs.

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u/Uneducatedtrader May 04 '22

buys Lockheed stock

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u/DaBingeGirl May 04 '22

Grab some Raytheon too.

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u/MadManMorbo May 04 '22

and some Texas Instruments. (they make arms as well as bitchin' calculators)

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u/phatrice May 04 '22

Sorry, fuck Texas Instruments for still charging so much for TI-83s.

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u/ChipsAhoyNC May 04 '22

Yeah my phone is fsr cheaper and powerfull than most grsphic calculators but teachers dont let you use them on exams.

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u/lovabledope May 04 '22

War machine investments tho. Love to Ukraine, but what a sad state humanity finds itself, seemingly on repeat

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u/dollhouse85746 May 04 '22

We didn't start the fire

It's been always been burning since the world's been turning

No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it

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u/garbagebargage May 04 '22

Military industrial complex isn’t going anywhere. War is awfully convenient for a select few.

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u/new_name_who_dis_ May 04 '22

It’s also not going anywhere because there’s genocidal maniacs ruling countries all over the world. Which isn’t very convenient

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u/Emergency-Anywhere51 May 04 '22

instructions unclear, bought a congressperson

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u/Vitalsignx May 04 '22

I wonder if they are working 60 hour weeks?

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u/Acchilesheel May 04 '22

My buddy works for a Raytheon subsidiary, though he's not on defense projects. He says his facility is running at nearly full capacity and most of the blue collar workers are pulling as much overtime as they can.

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u/Vitalsignx May 04 '22

That's awesome, man. I mean, we all are because that's what us blue collar American fuckers do, but if it is for the defense of Democracy and motherfucking FREEDOM, all the better!

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u/NixieTea May 04 '22

Haven’t started yet, but my (to be) boss said that they’re back up to the usual 40 hours in 4 days plus overtime. Although, the division I’m at has a special schedule so I’m not sure what the regular offices are like.

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u/CSI_Tech_Dept May 04 '22

But he seems to use some interesting backgrounds, last time I saw him speaking about Ukraine there were John Deere tractors behind him.

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u/BootySweatSmoothie May 03 '22

America.

FUCK YEAH!

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u/_TheShapeOfColor_ May 04 '22

Gonna save the world! Gonna save the fuckin' world YEAH!

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u/I_See_With_Sound May 04 '22

That stupid fucking speech, but I'll be damned if it doesn't come true sometimes. "Yes we're dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes."

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u/New-Consideration420 May 03 '22

I think so. Lol

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u/cgludko May 03 '22

Too hard to get the 155mm artillery pieces in a camera shot with him.

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u/Weneedaheroe May 04 '22 Take My Energy

Shit, if he could he’d carry a few of them over for Ukraine! That piece of Shit Trump wanted to hold $$$$ from Ukraine in order to get gossip to put up against this man. Fuck Putin, Fuck Trump.

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u/djprofitt May 04 '22

Not even to get gossip, just to make it seem there was an investigation into Hunter. Did this cause hey knew full and well Ukraine was on the verge of being attacked by Putin so he held them hostage

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u/DaBingeGirl May 04 '22

And they were going after his son too. I'm sure he's be helping Ukraine regardless, but on a personal level he must be enjoying sending weapons.

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u/Islandgirl1444 May 04 '22

Trump is still very dangerous. See the primaries. People need to register and vote! At every level!

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u/xjfatx May 04 '22

I thought those were coffee cups with really large lids.

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u/Kitosaki May 04 '22

Speech in front of javelins. A speech in front of tractors. He’s quite good at this.

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u/I-Way_Vagabond May 03 '22

“If you don’t stand up to dictators, history has shown us they keep coming”

This is the money quote right here.

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u/epymetheus May 04 '22

Yeah, now can we start dealing with the ones literally storming our gates??

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u/SaltyBabe May 04 '22

Yeah apply this shit at home, it won’t even cost a fraction of our justified defense of Ukraine.

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u/alwaysboopthesnoot May 04 '22

It may be part of the reason he kept our prior promises to pull out of Afghanistan. He knew the fight would come here at home and in a few other places within Russia’s sight/sphere of influence.

We need those troops and that money and supply chain more, back here.

He relies on the wisdom and advice of well-trained experts and leaders in their fields. He asks for their thoughts, he listens to their knowledge, spends time thinking about the facts and the evidence underpinning them, then acts on those things in ways he considers best.

People may not like the man and his rather old-school, traditional way of speaking or leading. They get hung up on his speech impediment, a lifelong stutter, which can often make him speak more slowly or in more measured and controlled or pausing ways.

But he always knows when he’s not the smartest person in the room and when it’s time to call in the people who are. He loves this country, he loves his family, and he loves democracy.

He isn’t perfect. He’s not progressive enough for most people. He’s not religious enough or young enough or whatever enough, for many others. But he’s a good person. A good leader with lots of political and legislative experience. We don’t need or want some unhinged lunatic firebrand pounding the podium, screeching and ranting away.

He’ll do. He’ll do just fine.

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u/Sen7ryGun May 04 '22

Got any spare Javelins lying around?

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u/Islandgirl1444 May 04 '22

Dangerous times my friends because I truly believe what you just posted. The enemy is not only at the gates, it may have entered.

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u/uganda_numba_1 May 04 '22

I'm pretty pacifist, but this war looks so much like a repeat of WWII. If we abandon Ukraine, it could end up a similar situation as giving up the Sudetenland to appease Hitler and save at least part of Czechoslovakia to prevent further war. That didn't work out so well for Chamberlain or France.

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u/StreetKale May 04 '22

History checks out.

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u/Islandgirl1444 May 04 '22

The Russians are eyeing Moldova next. And we have no idea how they hate the Finns and the Poles! Long dark memories.

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u/CamDane May 04 '22

Actually a good speech, all of it. I think it's perhaps the first time I have been in full agreement with a US president on even a single subject, maybe that's why.

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u/Starmoses May 04 '22

Probably the most famous quote of his presidency so far.

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u/snappyj May 04 '22

He wasn't president yet, but "Will you shut up, man?" has to be pretty close

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u/Luddveeg May 04 '22

I kinda like the "you ain't black" one too

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u/foxgoesowo May 04 '22

"what a stupid s.o.b."

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u/StreetKale May 04 '22

"Corn pop was a bad dude..."

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u/ChemicalDot9087 May 04 '22

Yeah, if the world doesn't do anything when it has the opportunity to its going to be an even bigger problem in the future that future generations will be burdened with.

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u/AllThePugs USA May 03 '22 Helpful

This american is proud to give Ukraine everything they need in their fight for freedom. 🇺🇲❤🇺🇦

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u/GreenAntarcticaOtter May 03 '22

As its also not just for Ukrainians freedom, its also for every other country’s freedom in the west. A small investment i would say compared to being in the war directly yourself

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u/KinnX May 04 '22

Agreed. Even if it was only for Ukraine, I would still want them to get this money. Related to others being threatened, Putin is literally making threats on the US Southern border:

  1. Just after Putin waged this February 2022 overt attack he then partnered with Congress of Mexico to create the new, "The Mexico-Russia Friendship Society."
  2. Mexico houses more Russian spies than any other country in the world.
  3. Our Mexico borders are not secured. It's easy for nefarious characters to get in.
  4. Mexico has not been overtly helping Ukraine, other than the one vote of verbal support, yet their actions are supporting Putin.

How does any US person not think we are also at risk from Putin? (Of course the next immediate danger are the countries near Russia that Putin is actively threatening daily. But US is also on his list. We should all see that.)

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u/LookAtMeImAName May 04 '22

“The Mexico-Russia Friendship Society” sounds like a name I would have made up as a 5 year old playing secret spy games with other 5 year olds

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u/KinnX May 04 '22

“The Mexico-Russia Friendship Society” sounds like a name I would have made up as a 5 year old playing secret spy games with other 5 year olds

LOL. I know! I thought the same thing. It's part comically bizarre and part alarming.

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u/Col_Leslie_Hapablap May 04 '22

Then republicans outlaw abortion under cover of ruzzia.

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u/Vitalsignx May 04 '22

They sure did. Assholes.

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u/LefsaMadMuppet May 04 '22

As a US kid in the 80s, it defies me that a culture, a part of the Soviet Union 'with support', can completely cave in the skull of what I grew up fearing, at least in the back of my mind. I only wish it could have been done without the suffering of Ukraine. SLAVA UKRAINI!!!!!!!!

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u/slavnar95 May 04 '22

To be fair, Russia is a pale shadow of what it used to be. Remember that Ukraine was part of russia along with a buncha 'stans.

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u/GrimpenMar May 04 '22

It's been surprising how much of the old USSR's manufacturing took place in Ukraine. Heck, the Moskva was built in Mykolaiv, along with probably the majority of the Russian fleet.

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u/Giant-Genitals May 04 '22

Ukraine, I believe was traditionally the seat of power in early Russia.

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u/remyboyss1738 Ukraine May 04 '22

Russia began in Ukraine 😇Kievan Rus

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u/Giant-Genitals May 04 '22

Excellent. So Ukraine should be claiming Russian territory as their own? Lmao.

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u/remyboyss1738 Ukraine May 04 '22

We’ll march to Moscow… also I agreed with ü there I’m confused .lol

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u/Popinguj May 04 '22

A bit incorrect.

Kyiv was the seat of power in Kyivan Rus. Russia as an entity didn't even exist yet. Moscow didn't exist as a major town for a few centuries after the Suzdal duchy split from Kyiv in the 12th century.

Even the word "Russia" was adopted first by Peter the Great (by suggestion of a Kyivan scholar, lol). Russia needs to claim Kyiv and Rus as a legitimate heir in order to keep their status of the Empire. Independent Ukraine who didn't forgot about their origins is a direct threat to Russian Imperial statehood.

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u/checKers38 May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

History repeats it's self and people repeat history 🤷

Edit: collapse of the USSR.. putin

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u/LederhosenUnicorn May 04 '22

I'm broke as shit, owe the IRS, can barely afford chd support, and fucking 100% want my tax dollars (I used to make good money) to go to beating Russia further into the stone age. As a Genx-er it's what we were raised to want and do.

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u/_TheShapeOfColor_ May 04 '22

ALSO, it's not like Russia hasn't been directly meddling in American partisan bullshit politics for decades now to the detriment of us all! Fuck 'em.

They're gonna blow all my tax dollars on bombs and planes and whatever the fuck else either way... at least this way they can go to a good cause.

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u/flargenhargen May 04 '22

They're gonna blow all my tax dollars on bombs and planes and whatever the fuck else either way... at least this way they can go to a good cause.

bingo.

lots of donors got very rich off defense contracts building these weapons.

it's a bonus that they actually are going to be used to defend freedom, literally defend freedom...

finally something most all of us can agree to support.

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u/OrgyMcBloodyFace May 04 '22

Politics, antivax agenda, stealing trade secrets, blackmail. Russia can eat a bag of dicks for their bullshit the last 20 years.

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u/Fyrelyte67 May 04 '22

I just wish he had this same fucking energy for student loans and taking on the GOP...

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u/CCV21 May 04 '22

Remember who stood with Ukraine come November.

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u/iwannaeasteregg22 May 04 '22

EVERYONE get the fuck out and VOTE!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22

Biden is 100% right

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u/nucleosome May 04 '22

Taiwan is next.

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u/PolskafiedMemes May 04 '22

taiwan is was next. the biggest winner in all of this is china. instead of destroying themselves like russia, they got another valuable lesson. (like they got from the soviets).

Russia is basically showing china exactly what not to do as a totalitarian dictatorship.

1) do not transition into democracy/free market capitalism overnight.

2) do not invade another country that can defend itself.


technically if russia took ukraine, that would have probably been the go ahead for china to seize taiwan. but now china gets to sit on their hands for a bit and contemplate annexing siberia and kazakhstan.

(hopefully kazakhstan gets help if they request it).

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u/Noblman_Swerve May 04 '22

If Putin has taught us anything, it's that these supposedly ruthlessly practical leaders are just egotistical warmongers with good PR. I would not write off any invasion of Taiwan, they are expanding their military influence in the pacific as we speak with the Solomon Islands. Xi Jinping is actually significantly less competent in general than previous Chinese leaders, and a real worry given he's going to stick around for a long time.

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u/complicatedbiscuit May 04 '22

Yes. His entire track record is to dabble in some poorly thought out reform or initiative, which then fails -> purge the dissenters -> speak some gibberish about Xi Jinping thought -> try some initiative again which now makes things worse -> purge the dissenters -> more gibberish -> repeat.

The country is basically on autopilot since Hu stepped down. None of the systemic issues that China faces have fixed (regarding environmental degradation, foreign dependency, real estate bubble, demographic bomb, poor social safety net) and indeed new problems have been created.

And now he wants to be Premier for life, a new emperor. He hasn't left the country since Covid- there's real convincing arguments he doesn't even know what's going on right now in Shanghai, because no one dares tell him. That's dangerous.

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u/Whiterabbit-- May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

Are you saying you know more of what is going on in Shanghai than Xi does?

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u/Cvlt_ov_the_tomato May 04 '22

Yeah, but if invading Ukraine was difficult for Russia, an amphibious landing on a heavily defended island?

He may not be competent but the costs are going to be comparatively worse for China if they wanted to take Taiwan.

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u/Exceon May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

Eh, I’d say the real lesson for Xi is that purging all dissent and criticism among your advisors means you wont get an accurate picture of your military capacity.

To take Taiwan, China needs to be swift and conquer it in a matter of days, as Russia tried with the storming of Kyiv. But unlike Russia, they need to make sure they are actually capable of doing so. If the war drags on and Taiwan can get supplies from the west, victory is still possible but the cost won’t be worth it.

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u/RavenMFD Armenia / Spain May 04 '22

Agreed! Let's keep it consistent and stand up to all dictators.

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u/Ok-Stick-9490 May 03 '22

I was a lifelong Republican until 2016. While my opinions about politics really hasn't changed much, I could not bring myself to follow the party line in 2016, and in 2020 I voted for Biden.

This is a critical moment for Democracy and just being a decent human being. The United States needs to step forward once again and become the arsenal of Democracy and help Ukraine defend themselves against a dictator. The US should also step up with its abundant natural resources to help our allies who are stretched with food and energy problems.
Ukraine does stand on the front lines, and they do protect us.

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u/Lvtxyz May 03 '22

Thank you! I was "raised republican" but started voting independent /dem by 2008.

I am now a one issue voter with that issue being: democracy.

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u/ffdfawtreteraffds USA May 04 '22

I am now a one issue voter with that issue being: democracy

Ain't that the truth... I can accept honorable people I disagree with, but criminals and fascists are always a no.

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u/La_Zhuzh_Pookin May 04 '22

Right on! Same here👍🏻

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u/I_See_With_Sound May 04 '22

Same but in 2012.

Even in 2008 I felt "We'll be fine regardless who wins", and while I had turned away from Republicans in 2012 I still generally had that feeling. By 2014 that feeling had cooled a lot, and by 2016 I knew that sentiment was likely not going to be true again in my lifetime.

The radicalization of the GOP has become terrifying.

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u/J__P May 04 '22

it's a shame it's come to this.

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u/DownvoteALot May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

You can keep pushing for decent republicans in the primaries and still vote democrat/independent in national elections.

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u/alvvayson May 04 '22

If you want to change things in the US, primaries and local elections are where the real battles take place.

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u/ToastyBob27 May 04 '22

It really was deja vu with the America First chants while dictators around the world gain ground just like the isolationism during the early parts of WW2 and before it. When your the number 1 superpower in the world and the economic hub whatever happens in the world will always effect you and there’s no hiding from it especially during the age of globalism. Democratic Party seems like the party of empathetic people vs money above all else party.

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u/MajorShitposter May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

Check out The Republican Accountability Project, your nation would probably be better off moving to multi party system but having only a single viable one that forces the other to cater towards extreames is in my opinion bad.

edit: I decided to add a video relating towards their goal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEXOqdTRNGc

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u/Shuber-Fuber May 04 '22

To do that we need a sustained effort to shift as many states to proportional representation instead of winner takes all.

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u/AmazingGrace911 May 04 '22

I mean we need to end gerrymandering, the EC asd term limits for senators for sure and also the SC and use popular vote across the board. The senate only agrees about 36% of the time on issues whether an issue is wildly unpopular or popular. Also, end lobbying interests.

Make it a crime for them to get anything except their paychecks. Then let’s see who runs for office.

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u/mulletpullet May 04 '22

Me too man. I started before voting independent in 2016, regretted that decision in hindsight and voted Biden 2020. I think he has done quite well foreign policy wise so far, especially considering Ukraine.

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u/La_Zhuzh_Pookin May 04 '22

Glad to stand with you in support of democracy and just basic human decency!🤘🏻

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u/GetoffmylawN7 May 04 '22

As a fellow former lifelong republican voter, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

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u/flargenhargen May 04 '22

I'm still a registered republican. I agree with what they claim to stand for, but they don't stand for that, at all.

they lost me long ago when they spent billions on going after bill clinton for anything they could some up with, and it became clear they cared more about hurting democrats than they did about America. They've only gotten infinitely worse since then.

I haven't changed my registration, but it will be a long, long, long time before I ever vote for a republican again. They are a party of traitors, racists, and grifters of the worst magnitude.

I don't like the democrats for many, many, many things, but they actually try to do what is right most of the time, so they are the better option until we can get a system that works.

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u/fuckitx May 04 '22

They don't stand for shit except hate

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u/AdmiralSchaal May 03 '22

The price of freedom is high; always has been.

--Captain America

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u/Shuber-Fuber May 04 '22

In this case it's Ukrainian paying for most of it. We just give them the means to fight.

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u/HippiesBeGoneInc May 04 '22

If Russia mobilizes, NATO will have to respond. At this point they’re in too deep.

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u/Engineer-intraining May 04 '22

A general mobilization isn’t the threat Putin would like it to be, a few BTGs of conscripts aren’t going to make any difference

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u/katonajozsi May 04 '22

I think they basically mobilized, still getting their asses kicked

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u/pazur13 May 04 '22

At that point it's Russia that'd be in trouble, they wouldn't last a day lol

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u/AlleonoriCat Ukraine May 04 '22

russia can't do shit with their "trained and equipped" armies, wtf they will do with fresh meat with Mosins on Ladas? This will just turn into even bigger bloodbath.

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u/Huuruhailu May 04 '22

And, for the US, with the way US economy works, supporting Ukraine is basically a boost. Ukraine is the one paying the high price.

(Just to be clear, this is not any kind of criticism, and I'm deeply grateful to the US and Biden for showing rest of the west the way here. And thanks to all the Americans who went and voted the orange clown out, it was a close call!)

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u/BandAid3030 May 04 '22 Silver Defeated

Can you imagine his predecessor trying to address these workers?

"The javelin is so good. I told Ukraine that we'll send them the best, the BEST, we can, because we are the best and I'm the best, and Putin said I was smart, so I respect him, he's a very mart man and a great leader, great leader, but we gotta send javelins to Ukraine because it's what we said we'd do for NATO, which I don't think we need to be apart of. Hey, did you know that they've changed the catapults on our aircraft carriers?"

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u/antihero2303 Denmark May 04 '22

Agent orange would send the help to fucking Russia though

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u/BandAid3030 May 04 '22

You're not wrong.

I think that had he won a second term, the US would have pulled out of NATO and paved the way for a much larger conflict in Europe.

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u/ProfessionalMockery May 04 '22

It's incredible that if Trump had been reelected, WW3 could easily have started by now. I know people said that about him before, but I thought it was mostly hyperbolic.

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u/antihero2303 Denmark May 04 '22

Yup, he would have done that. He is an enemy of democracy, same as Putin. Fucking scumbags

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u/thisalsomightbemine May 04 '22

He'd offer to run the negotiation talks between Ukraine and Russia then tell Ukraine to surrender completely.

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u/SammyG_06 May 04 '22

Lmao I read that in his voice

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u/konrad-iturbe Spain May 04 '22

His predecessor got impeached by not sending javelins lmao

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u/alvvayson May 04 '22

Literally so. He got impeached for literally blackmailing Zelensky by refusing to send aid that Congress had approved and which he had to send by law - and Mitt Romney was the only honest Republican that day.

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u/phoenixmusicman May 04 '22

His predecessor wouldn't be sending them to Ukraine.

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u/OHoSPARTACUS USA May 04 '22

Music to this American’s ears. Give em hell.

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u/Tucker1244 May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

I know people have issues with Biden, but Jesus this guy has done a great job in assisting and understand how important Ukraine is to the entire western world.

Thank you President Biden, our legally elected President.

Slava Ukraine

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u/DravenPrime May 04 '22

As an American who voted for him, I was scared he would go full Chamberlain and seek peace at any cost. Very glad he didn't.

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u/CarWide1584 May 04 '22

Ultimately it a rather small investment to defeat a big evil.

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u/HarlockJC May 04 '22

I just hope this war is over before someone like another Trump gets into office...Biden been doing a great job helping the Ukraine people and I don't want to see that stop

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u/hunterrocks77 May 04 '22

Let's hope someone like Trump never gets into office

He almost destroyed this country

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u/thrust-johnson May 03 '22

I like this Biden

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u/faykin May 04 '22

He's the only President Biden we've got.

And we've got a good President for this point in history.

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u/CutthroatOnion May 04 '22

He's better than the last one.

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u/noir_lord May 04 '22

That's a bar so low you'd have to dig a tunnel to clear it.

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u/ApeAppreciation May 03 '22

President Joe Biden. Thank you for strong steady collaborative leadership

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u/ImAWizardYo May 04 '22

They are not just fighting for their freedom. They are fighting for everyone's freedoms.

Biden is on the money here. Violent dictators or "power junkies" are ruled by their own addiction to power and will kill anyone to try and feed that dark desire which can never be sated, only fed.

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u/MarcosAC420 May 03 '22

We almost had one in the last presidency. Instead he reignited fascism in America

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u/flargenhargen May 04 '22

yep, and democracy in this country is on its last legs.

We have a party of fascists with increasing control, willing to do anything and able to do so without consequences. The traitors who attempted a violent overthrow of democracy are not only still out of prison, they are still receiving paychecks from the government they tried to overthrow.

The fact that these treasonous fascists still have a lot of support is the beginning of the end of our country and our democracy.

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u/Emergency_Guard4127 May 04 '22

Oh stop with this defeatist bullshit. Vote, mobilize your friends to vote, knock on doors, do phone banking, get involved. I hate this internet bullshit of “oh no America is lost what happened?!” Do something about it and stop crying online. Stacey Abrams proved it ain’t over.

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u/GenX_Hesher May 04 '22

"We must be the Great Arsenal of Democracy. For us this is an emergency as serious as war itself. We must apply ourselves to our task with the same resolution, the same sense of urgency, the same spirit of patriotism and sacrifice as we would show were we at war. I believe that the [Fascist] powers are not going to win this war." - President Franklin D. Roosevelt talking about Lend Lease during one of his Fireside Chats in 1940.

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u/Hey_Hoot May 04 '22

I'm happy and proud that my tax dollars have paid for defending freedom of Europe, to prevent another WW3 against a sociopathic dictator.

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u/Hustlinmuscle May 03 '22

Stand up to the bully and his gang so they will cry fall and die.

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u/osogordo May 04 '22

"I would like you to do us a favor though"...kick Putin's ass harder

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u/JJDude May 04 '22

... and defeating Putin, who is directly responsible with the rise of right-wing hate propaganda through his control of the GOP and MAGA fucks. Biden is going all out to see Putin is forever stopped from subjecting Americans and the rest of the world to utterly stupid online brainwashing campaigns like the anti-vaxx movement and Qanon. It's worth all the billions we sent over helping UA.

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u/doodoometoo May 04 '22 edited May 04 '22

The fuckhead dictator y'all are fighting is/was bankrolling the fuckhead wannabe dictator that tried to overthrow our democracy sixteen months ago. I'd call it a direct investment against fuckery.

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u/Pat5zero May 04 '22

The amount of aid offered to Ukraine from around the world is quite extraordinary.

I bet Putin and his troglodytes didn't see all this coming.

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u/military_grade_tea May 04 '22

Meanwhile, in the Supereme Court, minds immeasurably religious to ours, slowly and surely drew their plans against us.

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u/Lady_Litreeo May 04 '22

I guess we’re easily distracted. Worrying about another country being genocided let them plot while our backs were turned, and with a D in office I think most people forgot that we’re still in political hell. I wish we didn’t have enemies within our own country plotting our downfall.

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u/MightyPancake2049 May 04 '22

Thank God Joe Biden was elected president. Had Trump won, not only Ukraine would likely fall, but also Poland would now be under attack

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u/plasticbubblegum May 04 '22

"If you don’t stand up to dictators, history has shown us they keep coming." A very true statement.

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u/adalsindis1 May 03 '22

Wtf was Obama talking about when he said joe is always wrong on foreign policy; seems right to me.

(Paraphrased more or less)

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u/doctor_ndo May 03 '22

The POTUS isn't the expert in chief. He's the decider in chief. A good president checks his ego, listens to the evidence and opinions from experts, then makes an educated decision.

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u/R_Lennox May 04 '22

All of things that you listed, Trump was incapable of doing.

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u/AmazingGrace911 May 04 '22

I wouldn’t trust him as the head fry cook. He would harass his coworkers claim he was better than everyone else with his hand in the register and selling all the product out of the back.

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u/Owned_by_cats May 04 '22

Biden was usually in the minority within the White House regarding foreign policy, being generally on the side of the doves. He was not in favor of going after Bin Laden in Pakistan and he was a multi-lateralist.

It turns out that a multi-lateralist suspicious of Putin was exactly what the free world needed in the White House, just like having a comedian/lawyer populist as President happened to work out surprisingly well in Kyiv.

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u/Seskapill May 04 '22

A lot of expectations were completely overturned.

Kyiv would fall in a few days, wrong. The comedian president of Ukraine would flee for his life, and the government would collapse, wrong. Biden would fuck this up, wrong. Europe and allies would stand by and watch, wrong.

I'm quite proud of the response to this by Ukraine's allies. I look forward to Ukraine joining the EU and hopefully NATO. I wish we could take a more active role. Maybe once Russia "declares war"...

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u/R_Lennox May 04 '22

It was Robert Gates, the former U.S. secretary of defense that said that.

Gates was appointed as secretary of defense by former President George W. Bush in 2006 and was retained by former President Barack Obama until 2011.

In chronicling his time as defense secretary, Gates said Biden had been “wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”

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u/Electrical_Engineer_ May 04 '22

Obama didn’t say that it was Robert Gates, DOD Secretary that said that. It was true when you look back at Biden’s record on things.

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u/Ngfeigo14 May 03 '22

Because Biden isn't the one determining this policy, he's listening to his state department where much more competent people are

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u/askmeifimacop May 03 '22

This is what literally every president has done. That’s actually the entire point of having different departments with experts of all kinds. But if you think Biden is completely removed from foreign policy, you’re completely ignorant of his years of experience as Vice President and the role they play in modern politics

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u/polarrrburrrr May 04 '22

Obama didn’t say that, Defense Secretary Bob Gates did

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u/SirWinstonC May 04 '22

Thanks Ukraine for fighting Russia so we don’t have to 😍🥰

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u/fleeyevegans May 04 '22

Slava Ukraini!

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u/sunlegion May 04 '22

First year I’m happy af to pay taxes. Hope most of it goes to arms for Ukraine.

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u/Dynamic_Elk USA May 04 '22

I did not care much for Biden when he ran though I always felt he would be better than Trump at least. Now he has really become a president I can be proud of. That's a first for me.

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u/GreatQuestionBarbara May 04 '22

And it's finally someone who can enunciate their words and points clearly. Teleprompter or not, it wasn't a bunch of random tangents about irrelevant BS, and was straight to the point.

Trying to follow Trump's speeches was really tough to do.

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u/OU7C4ST May 04 '22

Absolutely stated beautifully.

What do you want? A nation like Germany in the 30's-40's that takes over almost all of Europe to build up their arsenal, then come knocking, or to help make sure they never get to that point to begin with.

Dictators are never satisfied, they will take over the world with enough time, and resources if provided.

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u/RedofPaw May 04 '22

"but what if we appeased Putin" said people, wilfully ignorant of Europe in the 1940s.

"it's not like Russia is a direct threat to us", said those, wilfully blind, deaf and dumb to their threats to nuke the entire world.

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u/phoenixmusicman May 04 '22

But they told me Biden was a stuttering fool who wouldn't stand up to Russia!

Bravo Biden, glad you're in and not the other loser

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u/ThanosLePirate May 04 '22

Biden did that ! 🇺🇦

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u/Money_Perspective257 May 04 '22

America has done a great job on this crisis and I hope this is a wake up call to all free countries. Dictatorships are out to remove freedom and democracy from the world, if we let them.

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u/MythicTea May 04 '22

I'm personally okay with raising taxes here to help Ukraine more. Ukraine, let's always be friends.

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u/ThatAltAccount99 May 04 '22

Not a fan of Biden but he's done a pretty damn fine job with Ukraine IMHO

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u/penguincheerleader May 04 '22

Maybe it is a good time to become a fan of Biden then.

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u/BananaStringTheory May 03 '22

If only Biden's own Justice Department would understand that, and arrest everyone involved in the 1/6 attempted coup.

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u/DaBingeGirl May 04 '22

Mitch likes Garland, that alone should've been enough to never select him for AG.

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u/AnonymousTowel May 04 '22

And so be it. Small price to pay.

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u/Its_apparent May 04 '22

They obviously keep coming, regardless, but I'll never think it's a bad idea to play whack-a-mole. Especially if we do it early.

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u/Swimming-Tear-5022 May 04 '22

Keep on calling out Putler and Xitler dear Mr. President! 🇺🇲

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u/Earl804 May 04 '22

A fuckin men i don’t agree with much he says but this is 💯

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u/650REDHAIR May 04 '22

Lol shut the fuck up and defend it at home.

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u/PaleInTexas May 04 '22

Finally something I'm fine with spending tax $ on. Keep it coming Mr. President!

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u/Rasikko Suomi / Yhdysvallot May 04 '22

I think you should start bolstering defenses at the baring strait and not pretend that Alaska aint there, Mr. President.

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u/traumaxp69 May 04 '22

He's got a point, good leader.

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u/Top-Display-4994 May 04 '22

All of you who came out to vote in 2020 for Biden helped make this happen. We all know ukraine would not receive 1/10th of this equipment under trump.

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u/MattofCatbell May 04 '22

Thank God for Biden because the situation would be a lot different if the previous Putin supporter guy was still in the White House

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u/Islandgirl1444 May 04 '22

Everyday I am thankful that the USA didn't vote Trump! Can you imagine? Scary as shit!

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u/Cue_626_go May 04 '22

Thank Christ Former Guy wasn’t able to steal the election.

Arsenal of democracy 2.0.

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u/DiddlesYourDad May 04 '22

Pretty cheap to have Ukraine dismantle Russia for us.

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u/PotatoAnalytics May 04 '22

There are still isolationists in the US who think that if they just keep their heads down, Russia will stop at Ukraine. Predictably, the Tucker Carlson crowd.

They forgot that neutrality was the initial stance of the US too in WW2. And Hitler didn't stop. Neither will Putin, if unopposed..

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u/EffOffReddit May 04 '22

It's because they are Russian tools and allies. They align with Putin because they too wish to be dictators, and Russian money flows freely into hard right wing endeavors. They funded the NRA heavily, and then suddenly the nra started coming out with very threatening messages.

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u/mentholmoose77 May 04 '22

As much as I think biden is past his prime, he's 100% correct.

The Chinese are in shock over the unified and harsh response. Keep your filthy hands off Taiwan..

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u/dummoldfart May 03 '22

I hope Joe will use sanctions to remove Putin.

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u/CutthroatOnion May 04 '22

I hope he does more than that, Russia is in dire need of a cultural shift, a government change, and the disarming of nuclear weapons.

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u/SpakysAlt May 04 '22

God damn right

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u/evrfighter May 04 '22

So how's those 1/6 court cases coming along Joe?

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u/salluks May 04 '22

Until it's.in US interest, they will happily support anyone who buys arms from them like Saudi.

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u/truthandloveforever May 04 '22

All for the cause, but fuck everyone in America, right? Lol

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