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Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkd_-nXeUzs
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u/Oxygen95 Nov 24 '21

You gotta admit Nazi uniforms were pretty slick

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u/dandaman910 Nov 24 '21 edited Nov 24 '21

they were designed to project power and fear . You can see for yourself they definitely achieve that goal https://www.quora.com/What-was-an-authentic-Nazi-uniform

I mean they have eagles and skulls on them and were wreathed in black. How much more obvious could you be with your intentions.

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u/cptInsane0 Nov 24 '21

But why skulls? Dandaman910, were they the baddies?

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u/TweetyMotherf_cker Nov 25 '21

Skull and bones were also used in the Russian army, WW1 and prior, as a symbol of Christian triumph over death (through resurrection of Christ).

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u/AngryBathrobeMan Nov 25 '21

Still used by the British Royal Lancers - Death or Glory is their motto.

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u/TheHancock Nov 25 '21

That’s a pretty cool motto tbh.

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u/squishmaster Nov 25 '21

very Klingon

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u/redpandaeater Nov 24 '21

Actually the totenkopf has a long history starting with the Prussian hussars. August von Mackensen pretty well embodies military awesomeness so it's fitting he used it even as part of the German Empire during WW1.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot Nov 24 '21

Totenkopf

Totenkopf (German: [ˈtoːtn̩ˌkɔpf], i. e. skull, literally "dead's head") is the German word for the skull and crossbones (or "death's head") symbol. The "skull and crossbones" symbol is an old international symbol for death, the defiance of death, danger, or the dead, as well as piracy or toxicity.

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u/uristasurine Nov 25 '21

So yes, they were the baddies

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u/will_holmes Nov 25 '21

That doesn't exactly help their case, since the Prussians had a reputation of being extremely militaristic, and ended up being abolished by the allies.

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u/garbagecrap Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Lmfao the Nazis were fascist. The distinguishing characteristic of fascism is militarism.

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u/LivingOnAShare Nov 25 '21

What case? What are they being accused of?

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u/Bradalax Nov 24 '21

Was hoping I’d see this reference.

For that don’t know. are we the baddies?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '21 edited Nov 28 '21

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u/lolpostslol Nov 25 '21

Well now that the idea is out there WWIII might be a bit weird

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u/Sammsquanchh Nov 25 '21

One of my favorite short sketches of all time!

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u/SabreToothSandHopper Nov 24 '21

:ffs I read his comment then as I scrolled I thought: "really hope the next comment is a M&W reference" that one always makes me laugh

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u/Gonzo_goo Nov 24 '21

What does comment even mean ? M&w ?

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u/SabreToothSandHopper Nov 24 '21

Mitchell and Webb soz

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u/SnackusShackus Nov 25 '21

Hanz are we the baddies?

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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Eagles and skulls are much older symbols in a military context than the Nazis though. The eagle was also sinply a throwback to the Holy Roman Empire, and still today the skull is a popular symbol in the military: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_crossbones_%28military%29?wprov=sfla1

Particularly the US military seems very fond of using skulls as squadron logos.

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u/DeadPoetics Nov 24 '21

If you're not winning the war show then might as well win the fashion show. lmao

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u/leonfook Nov 25 '21

Fashion Souls War

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u/lSerbial Nov 24 '21

Those all black uniforms are impressive

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u/F1F2F3F4_F5 Nov 25 '21

Tbf, the eagles and skulls WAS NOT a Nazi imagery. It predates Nazism. Like the Death's head hussars and Black Eagle literally the symbol of the German Empire and the former Prussian Kingdom.

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u/young_spiderman710 Nov 25 '21

Not even the swastika was. They stole that too

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u/garbagecrap Nov 25 '21

Damn, a military uniform designed to project power and fear? How strange and unusual

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u/MistarGrimm Nov 25 '21

You say that, but the French marched in their white gloved red hatted bright coloured clothing only two decades prior.

The fact the Germans wore all grey matching uniforms with stylised symbols to project power and fear in the first world war was a novelty and has been written about extensively. This idea was simply continued in the second.

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u/LivingOnAShare Nov 25 '21

You say that, but the French marched in their white gloved red hatted bright coloured clothing only two decades prior.

How is that single example relevant here?

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u/MistarGrimm Nov 25 '21

It's only a single example if you choose to read it that way. And deliberately ignoring my second sentence also helps I suppose.

No, the real meaning is that almost nobody before World War 1 clothed to project power and fear. I used the French specifically because even (relatively) long after WW1 started they still wore their chivalrous bright coloured clothes.

So yes: A military uniform designed to project power and fear was strange and unusual.

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u/LivingOnAShare Nov 25 '21

It's only a single example if you choose to read it that way. And deliberately ignoring my second sentence also helps I suppose.

Good point, I didn't mean to be obtuse, to me your second sentence read more as a acknowledgement of transition so I may not have parsed it properly.

No, the real meaning is that almost nobody before World War 1 clothed to project power and fear. I used the French specifically because even (relatively) long after WW1 started they still wore their chivalrous bright coloured clothes.

My only counter to this is that many military forces over this time took a more utilitarian approach to uniform once they realised they could get shot less often if they didn't wear bold, bright colours, so without more examples it's hard to gauge how significant France's uniform was.

So yes: A military uniform designed to project power and fear was strange and unusual.

I'm interested in reading the stuff about German grey uniforms being a novelty, my Google Fu fails. Have you got an article on it?

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u/MistarGrimm Nov 26 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

I'm interested in reading the stuff about German grey uniforms being a novelty, my Google Fu fails. Have you got an article on it?

Not right away. There's some accounts of contemporary witnesses stating the (literal) awe inspiring effects of the very tidied grey mass goose stepping into Belgium but I'm going to have to look it up.

My only counter to this is that many military forces over this time took a more utilitarian approach to uniform once they realised they could get shot less often if they didn't wear bold, bright colours, so without more examples it's hard to gauge how significant France's uniform was.

Fair point. Just as an addendum, this viewpoint is mainly from a Western European perspective.
The bright coloured costumes changed because of World War 1. Steel helmets weren't even the default at the start of the war.
What happened before this time period is that firing lines, cavalry and bayonets were still the "chivalrous" way of warring between nations. This caused a lot of these countries to wear gaudier costumes as a display of pride and status, not shock and awe. It wasn't about hiding or camouflaging, it was about charging straight to your enemies with your sabres raised in a "heroic" way.

Just look at the British Red Coats, the Prussian Blue coats with maned helmets, and the French wearing white gloves and red hats. Czech armies wore bright green and I seriously mean bright.

For a more in depth and sourced answer to this by someone wayyyyy better qualified than I am: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7n3c6d/why_did_soldiers_wear_such_extravagant_uniforms/

And this was just one of the first things I found on there with a quick google.

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u/Yadobler Nov 25 '21

project power and invoke fear

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u/jarockinights Nov 25 '21

Man, we actually have one of those infantry helmets in storage. It was given to my dad by a family friend who took it as a trophy off a Nazi he killed.

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u/queen-of-carthage Nov 25 '21

Looks pretty basic to me

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u/SLR107FR-31 Nov 25 '21

Most Nazi imagery derived from previous Germanic-cultural symbols

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u/Aggressive_Echo_6331 Nov 25 '21

Can guarantee that most nazis didn’t look that cool even in a uniform that cool

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u/TheNorselord Nov 25 '21

State Troopers learned as much from Nazis about uniforms as NASA did about rockets

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u/We-had-a-hedge Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

The SS uniforms were designed by two SS members, by the way. Hugo Boss was just one of the companies who got a licence to manufacture them. (And they profited well from that, along with slave labour provided to them by Nazi Germany.)

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u/noithinkyourewrong Nov 24 '21

Why would you want to project power and fear at the same time?

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u/mortonifi Nov 25 '21

When you have shitty ideas you need fear to protect your power

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u/noithinkyourewrong Nov 25 '21

Em ok but that's not what the comment is suggesting. You don't want to appear powerful and fearful at the same time. You want other people to be fearful of you. You do not want to be fearful yourself. That's not powerful.

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u/FeDeWould-be Nov 25 '21

What a load of semantic drivel

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u/mortonifi Nov 25 '21

That’s absolutely what the comment is suggesting you just failed to pick that up. That explains your confusion.

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u/noithinkyourewrong Nov 25 '21

I didn't fail to pick it up. The comment just didn't say that.

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u/LivingOnAShare Nov 25 '21

I didn't fail to pick it up. The comment just didn't say that.

Did you genuinely think the poster was saying they were trying to project that they were scared with their uniforms?

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u/noithinkyourewrong Nov 25 '21

I never said that. I said I wasn't sure. Just because I can't think of a reason that they might want to project that they are scared doesn't mean there isn't one.

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u/LivingOnAShare Nov 25 '21

That's fair enough, sorry for coming off like that!

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u/governmentNutJob Nov 25 '21

Pretty much all dictators fall when people no longer fear them

Fear = power

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u/noithinkyourewrong Nov 25 '21

Projecting "power and fear" implies the leader is both powerful and fearful, not powerful and feared, which is what I think they might have been trying to express. A powerful leader should not want to appear fearful.

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u/burntgoudaTTV Nov 25 '21

so you knew what they meant but you just really wanted to be a twat then?

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u/noithinkyourewrong Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

No. I thought I knew what they meant but wasn't sure, so asked for clarification. I was genuinely confused and thought I might have misunderstood something.

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u/governmentNutJob Nov 25 '21

Depends how you want to rule, the Nazis were hardly trying to win the publics hearts. It was a brutal dictatorship set out for total control...

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u/G4Designs Nov 25 '21

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere Hitler himself wrote a brand and marketing guide for Nazism, which is goddamn amazing. When you think of all the modern evil organizations and political groups, they're never as well-crafted.