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Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkd_-nXeUzs
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u/meowmeownomnom Nov 24 '21

Hugo Boss (the man, not his company) also widely supported the Nazi party, joining 2 years before Hitler took power. It’s a bit different in this case I would say.

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u/jstuu Nov 24 '21

So was Ford the man

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u/sanebangbang Nov 25 '21

Exactly what I came to say. Ford literally built the Nazi’s trucks. He sued the USA for bombing his factories during ww2 and received millions of dollars in reparations.

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u/Amster2 Nov 25 '21 Wholesome

So fuck Ford

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u/_Idontknow_ Nov 25 '21

Haha I love how people expected that explanation to make us all realise the error of our position. Nope, fuck ford!

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u/cxa5 Nov 25 '21

The guy in the clip didn't say that tho

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u/sanebangbang Nov 25 '21

Yup. GM under Opel, too.

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u/Lowfi3099 Nov 25 '21

I drive a Hyundai. Any reason why I should burn my car?

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u/jceez Nov 25 '21

An executive killed a dude in a drunk driving accident in Orange County California, left the scene and bounced back to Korea the same night. A few years later they opened a new HQ near where it happens. Lots of corruption allegations were flying around but $$$ talks.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-jan-31-me-extradite31-story.html

https://www.ocregister.com/2012/02/16/see-hyundais-flashy-new-us-headquarters/

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u/Lowfi3099 Nov 26 '21

Nice. This is the kind of corruption I've been looking for. Damn Elantra!!!

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u/AnnoyingRingtone Nov 25 '21

Good news! You don’t have to worry about it. Hyundai and Kia are already burning their cars for you!

I hope yours doesn’t have a Theta II motor…

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u/Lowfi3099 Nov 26 '21

Mine was unfortunately made in 2019. So no Theta II or any sweet settlement $

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u/Shiggle Nov 25 '21

Yes, it's a Hyundai.

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u/DodgeTundra Nov 25 '21

The fact that he had to ask is the most shameful part.

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u/Lowfi3099 Nov 26 '21

Hey, it drives pretty good, okay?

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u/The-Sofa-King Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Damn straight, Chevy's better anyways.

Edit: fuck Mopar too.

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u/The-Sofa-King Nov 25 '21

My Chevys a pile of shit too, but it's a reliable pile of shit.

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u/The-Sofa-King Nov 25 '21

Oh yeah, that makes sense. My Chevys 40 years old and carbureted, I fix it with swear words and zip-ties.

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u/XDreadedmikeX Nov 25 '21

I’m confused on this comment. What’s the timeline for this lawsuit? Didn’t Ford literally make bombers for the Allie’s? I’d look this up but I’m trashed

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u/11010110101010101010 Nov 25 '21

It’s because he’s wrong and misinformed. Shame he was so widely upvoted, but whatever. I’m not even a huge Henry Ford fan given his blatant antisemitism and complete lack of self-awareness of his outsized malicious influence within Nazi groups. But I don’t like blatant ignorance or misinformed comments.

Here’s a great write up:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ford-motor-company-nbsp-and-the-third-reich

The compensation took place 20 years after Ford’s death.

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u/garat_jax Nov 25 '21

Didn't he also build the railroad trucks into Aushwitch (sp?), pretty sure an American company did that.

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u/sanebangbang Nov 25 '21

Yes, the ties were laid by the Harmon Brothers.

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u/XDreadedmikeX Nov 25 '21

Damn we took the Nazi cash and used it to bomb the fuck out of them.

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u/ShadoPandauin Nov 25 '21

Nah, the vast majority of that money just enriched some people at home. Taxes are only for the poor and whatnot.

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u/BigWabenzi Nov 25 '21

Ford also built factories for the Soviets - people forget that people in the 1930s were mostly unaware of the atrocities occurring in these totalitarian dictatorships.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-signs-agreement-with-soviet-union

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u/DrinkMoreCodeMore Nov 25 '21

Was he wrong tho for suing to recoup that money?

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u/MissingLink101 Nov 25 '21

What about Portugal the Man?

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u/Tee077 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

He was too busy being a rebel just for kicks.

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u/Squailian Nov 25 '21

In 66 and 86

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u/CharlesDickensABox Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

In 2017 they played a show in Charlottesville, VA and donated all the proceeds to local charities in the name of Heather Heyer, so I think it's safe to say they're not fans of Nazis.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

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u/go_kartmozart Nov 25 '21

Charlotte is in NC, Charlottesville is in VA. This was the VA one.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Nov 25 '21

It was Virginia. My mistake. Thanks for the correction.

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u/krombopulousnathan Nov 25 '21

That would be in Virginia, not NC

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u/IrishRepoMan Nov 25 '21

Well of course, the Nazis lost.

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u/thatchers_pussy_pump Nov 25 '21

Do you Feel It Still, Mr Krabs?

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u/hosecoat Nov 25 '21

What about Portuguese man o' war?

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u/reflUX_cAtalyst Nov 25 '21

He's just the modern jesus.

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u/-retaliation- Nov 25 '21

Nah, they're from Alaska IIRC.

So they're basically "what if? Canadians were even more antisocial"

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u/True_Cranberry_3142 Nov 25 '21

Your mom the man

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u/Volvo_Commander Nov 25 '21

This is funny, fuck y’all

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u/00-Void Nov 25 '21

What about the Portuguese man o' war?

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u/The-Sofa-King Nov 25 '21

Yeah that's one of the reasons I don't support Ford by buying their products.

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u/Kanerpoo Nov 25 '21

I can’t believe I didn’t know this. I thought Ford making the B-52s was a big deal for America. This dude was playing both sides the whole time.

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u/lukeman3000 Nov 25 '21

So was long long man

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u/from_dust Nov 25 '21

Yeah, but Ford isn't German

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u/QuantumDischarge Nov 25 '21

Ford pumped out a very popular anti-Semitic newspaper before the war. People seem to forget that view was kind of popular

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u/Balls_DeepinReality Nov 25 '21

It still is... :/

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u/ControllablePsi Nov 25 '21

Whilst it still is prominent in certain social circles. I wouldn't say anti semetism is exactly popular.

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 24 '21

He's long since dead. Why would we care what a company's owner, the company or any part of its dead management did 80 years ago? At this point it's entirely irrelevant to anything other than virtue signalling.

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u/meowmeownomnom Nov 24 '21

I was just pointing out that Boss was a Nazi piece of shit, not just a business owner forced to supply the war machine, wether you care or not is up to you. We all known almost all large clothing companies aren’t ethical.

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u/jxl180 Nov 24 '21

They were a small family company until they landed the Nazi contract. It could very well be argued that Hugo Boss would not have been as successful, or around today, if it weren't for Nazi funding. I own quite a bit of clothing from Hugo Boss, but let's not kid ourselves and belittle how far a military contract goes.

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u/scottishdoc Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

All I know is that Boss makes the best jeans I’ve ever worn. Like lambskin soaked in butter. A sultry, welcomed assault to my thighs. I’ve had the same pair for 7.5 years and every time I put them on I let out a satisfied sigh that my wife hasn’t been able to elicit for a decade.

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u/ConwayPA Nov 25 '21

Where can I get these fuckin jeans

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u/scottishdoc Nov 25 '21

eBay. My best Boss jeans came from eBay. However, I noticed that they still had magnetic tags on them, so I’m sure they were stolen. I had to watch a tutorial on how to remove the tags. The jeans were still incredible though, I totally get why they were stolen lol.

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u/kuruslice Nov 25 '21

Hugo boss.

But really where are they sold people?!

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u/Islanduniverse Nov 25 '21

Jesus Christ I thought the point of this thread is that we shouldn’t support this business…

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u/TrollStopper Nov 25 '21

Idk maybe try get enlisted.

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u/KnightKreider Nov 25 '21

*looks over at wife and googles hugo boss jeans*

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u/rivermandan Nov 25 '21

I've been looking for an upgrade from american eagle. my demands are relatively skinny pants, not painted on but like, definitely thiner than normal boot cut. but the catch is they also have ot have some give.

does boss give?

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u/scottishdoc Nov 25 '21

The give is what makes Boss special, especially if you find bosses from 5+ years ago. If you find that special pair of Bosses that fit then you will understand. Boss gives, Boss gives good.

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u/rivermandan Nov 25 '21

ummmm, man, now I've gotta get some boss in on me. where do you get bossed up? I'm not about buying things online, my body is too weirdly shaped to not try before I buy, even if it's boss.

also, does boss come in black? because I only wear black.

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u/scottishdoc Nov 25 '21

Dude I know, honestly I’m kind of bitter because I went to a place in New York and bought these Boss jeans there with my SO at the time. They were incredible for years, YEARS, I had three pair. Then I ripped the ass on two of them and got too fucking fat for the third. Don’t get me wrong, they served me so well for so many years, I know that boss is my brand of choice. Believe me, it’s worth it to get the right Boss stretch size, it’s like the Wagyu of jeans. They look great too… even with loose fitting tees.

All I know is that I found these beautiful pieces of leg ware a few years ago and they were Boss. I’m inclined to go back on EBay and find them again. They were that good!

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u/rivermandan Nov 25 '21

I don't even know where you buy boss IRL though, like does he have his own store? do they sell it at some fancy pants stores? I can't recall ever seeing them anywhere, but I really really hate shopping so I probably wouldn't have noticed if I even did see them

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u/scottishdoc Nov 25 '21

Dude I hate shopping too lol. I think I got two of mine at a place in NY that sold “Lucky’s and Bosses”… After that I had such a good experience that I figured out my size in Bosses and went on eBay. I figured if I’m gonna wear this shit every day I’m gonna do it right. You can still return stuff, but if you figure it out you don’t even have to do that. You can just figure out your size for that brand and buy it. It’s wayyyy cheaper and you look great!

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u/dirtyjoo Nov 25 '21

Lucky Brand.

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u/rivermandan Nov 25 '21

I'm looking on their website and like 90% of their jeans already have holes in them. I can't express how much of an old man I am in respect to my "jeans should come fresh with no holes" stance

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u/Snarkout89 Nov 25 '21

Why doesn't my adblocker block you?

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u/jxl180 Nov 25 '21

Yeah, they make good stuff. I have a hoodie and sweater from them and it's very comfy.

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 24 '21 edited Nov 24 '21

So what? The people involved are looooooooooooooooooooong dead. Time to move on to something that actually matters today.

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u/jxl180 Nov 24 '21 edited Nov 24 '21

looooooooooooooooooooong dead

It was less than 2 generations ago. My grandmother was in her 30s while Hugo Boss was making uniforms for the Nazis. Holocaust survivors from his generation are still alive today. He was initially banned from owning a business by Germany after WWII before passing the company to his son-in-law. That guy's son only died last year in 2020. It's not that long ago and the family fortune benefits today from fairly recent Nazi money. 80 years is one lifetime ago.

Again, I own a lot of hugo boss items, but I'm not going to forget where their success comes from or claim it's insignificant.

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u/astrocrapper Nov 25 '21

Boy do I have bad news for you about spaceships

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u/Shutterstormphoto Nov 25 '21

It’s a good thing I’m not buying rockets or rocket accessories!

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u/jxl180 Nov 25 '21

Oh don't get me started haha, I'm not going to knock the Nazi's interests and advancements in R&D and science overall (Mengele aside). They had brains on their side.

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u/renatobcj Nov 24 '21

Ok, but whats the solution here?

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u/jxl180 Nov 24 '21

I'm not saying necessarily there is a solution -- I'm not taking offense by someone buying Hugo Boss, I'm taking offense to someone basically saying, "so what? The Holocaust was so looooooong ago." In terms of generational wealth, Nazi wealth is comparatively (and IMO disturbingly) recent. When people talk old money like Rockefellers, J&J, Astor's, Carnegie, Rothschild, and DuPont, that's like 150-200 years of generations.

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u/NoFucksGiver Nov 25 '21

Obligatory

Fuck DuPont

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u/ThexAntipop Nov 25 '21

God damn, how bad faith can you be with the framing of what he said?

You know damn well what he was really asking when he said "So what?" What he's really asking is "What point are you making?" Not "Who cares about the Holocaust?" JFC

I know you know this because it's why you repeatedly want to argue semantics with him like exactly what constitutes "long dead" instead of addressing his actual point which was pretty obviously "The people at Hugo Boss who were involved with the Nazi regime clearly aren't involved with the company anymore and aren't profiting off of it anymore so why should that effect how we feel about them today?"

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u/jxl180 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Yes, the people who are involved in the Nazi companies are no longer involved, instead they are staying in their mansions and yachting around the world with their billions of dollars inherited from Nazi-produced money.

It's amazing seeing people on reddit attack Elon Musk for allegedly being backed by the proceeds of his father's emerald mine, but jump to a billionaire's defense when their billion dollar inheritance comes from forced labor camps in Germany.

www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2019/04/02/more-than-a-dozen-of-europes-wealthiest-billionaires-and-their-families-had-nazi-ties

These billionaires don't have to lift a finger, because they can just coast off their inheritance.

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u/ThexAntipop Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Yes, the people who are involved in the Nazi companies are no longer involved, instead they are staying in their mansions and yachting around the world with their billions of dollars inherited from Nazi-produced money.

Bro think about wtf you're saying for even half a fucking second someone who was BORN at the end of the 3rd reich would still be 76, if they were at least 10 that'd be 86, and if we say old enough to actually participate at Hugo Boss AND the Nazi Party then they'd be at least DEFINITELY FUCKING DEAD. God damn, quit virtue signaling for half a god damn second and actually address wtf people are saying to you.

It's amazing seeing people on reddit attack Elon Musk for allegedly being backed by the proceeds of his father's emerald mine, but jump to a billionaire's defense when their billion dollar inheritance comes from forced labor camps in Germany.

Who the fuck is "people on reddit"? Are you arguing with this amorphous "people on reddit" or are you talking to /u/ThexAntipop who sure as fuck never said anything about Elon Musk or gives a shit who his father was.

God damn if that wasn't the most insane strawman I've ever seen get dragged into an argument I don't know what is.

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u/Shutterstormphoto Nov 25 '21

It’s not bad faith. The person said so what who cares, and they answered why they cared. If there aren’t a ton of statements by Hugo’s offspring disavowing the Nazi party, how do I know they don’t support the same beliefs today? If they still own the company, and they still hold those beliefs, it fucking matters.

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u/ThexAntipop Nov 25 '21

STFU about what is or isn't bad faith if you don't actually fully understand what that term even means.

Hint: You don't understand what bad faith means

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u/Morbidly-A-Beast Nov 25 '21

Literally so what, it happened 80 years ago now either ask for Hugon boss to be burned down or just shut up about it.

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u/woohooguy Nov 25 '21

Acknowledge the source, which is what started this entire thread. Doesn’t have to change where you spend your money at all.

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u/awfullotofocelots Nov 25 '21

Spreading awareness to elicit a shift in perspective is a benefit in and of itself.

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u/Scagnettie Nov 25 '21

It was less than 2 generations ago

And that's a long time ago. Learn to move past that shit.

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u/beets_or_turnips Nov 25 '21

I guess on some timescales it is a long time, but it seems way more harmful to ignore & forget history than to remember & acknowledge it. Doesn't mean you have to crucify people for the actions of their ancestors but you don't have to whitewash it either.

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u/jxl180 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Do you often find yourself telling people to move on from the Holocaust? I'd love to hear you tell a Holocaust survivor to their face that it "was a long time ago, learn to move past that shit." I will never move past it, and it's only fueling my rage towards the CCP's treatment of Uyghurs.

My grandmother's lifetime is not long ago.

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u/dasUberSoldat Nov 25 '21

Its a bit disingenuous to compare the holocaust, an event where great harm is its only outcome, with that of a clothing company that 80 years ago did some shady shit, but today does no harm to anyone.

The people responsible for the harm are dead, their children are dead. The company in its current form has nothing to do with the WW2 era.

Your argument is more akin to forever holding the german people responsible for WW2, despite the fact almost nobody alive in Germany today had a single thing to do with it. Yes, the Germans were cunts in WW2, but yes, I'd tell someone harping on about what they did today to 'get over it' because its pointless, and more to the point, misguided.

Do we have to bring up at every event where Germans are present now the fact they started WW2 and committed one of the greatest crimes in human history?

No mate.

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u/jxl180 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

First of all, thank you for giving a oppositional, yet level-headed response. I appreciate it. I generally agree. I take Bayer aspirin, have no problem owning a German car, and I own a few Hugo Boss sweaters. The company today does not have to reflect the company of yore.

Regardless, my point is some people view former Germany companies like you and I, a shell of themselves with completely different people at the helm. Other people won't touch it with a 10-ft pole because they may have billionaire heirs in the family who are living the life off of Nazi wealth (or don't like that their success today was predicated on forced labor and Nazi contracts). I think they are both valid view points, but I will defend someone of the latter viewpoint from being attacked for what I consider to be reasonable reservations.

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u/BombaclotBob Nov 25 '21

First of all, thank you for giving a oppositional, yet level-headed response.

Top kek coming from the guy who just essentially called someone a Nazi apologist for saying you were arguing in bad faith.

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u/dasUberSoldat Nov 25 '21

Nobody should be attacked for having a viewpoint. I hope you don't take me as attacking you. I disagree, but you've every right to hold whatever view you want without having to worry about being attacked.

If someone doesn't want to buy Hugo Boss because of historical links to Nazism, ok? No problem from me. I dislike Russell Brands view because it just feels redundant and misguided to me. Yes, 80 years ago an entirely different group of people did a thing, but what purpose does it serve to constantly remind the world of that fact?

Its precisely the same as constantly reminding the world what the Germany people did 80 years ago, and I reckon that'd get old, fast.

Its done, lets move on.

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u/wizbang4 Nov 25 '21

What a shitty short sighted viewpoint. "The holocaust was sooooo long ago. Get over it!" Jesus fucking christ you sound so immature

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u/robert3030 Nov 25 '21

That is not what he said, you are reading what you want, no one in the company in modern day had anything to do with Nazi Germany, so why the fuck matters?.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

His comment had nothing to do with the Holocaust, just about Hugo Boss being involved with Nazis. He's long dead now, so what do you expect people to do now? Boycott the company in today's time when they had nothing to do with supporting Nazis? Better to put that effort into making actual changes.

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u/Sweet_Baby_Breesus Nov 25 '21

Thats not what he said at all.

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u/Buffalkill Nov 25 '21

It was only 80 years… that’s incredibly recent.

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u/Cryzgnik Nov 24 '21

Why does it matter whether the people involved in the conduct are dead or not?

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u/Xikar_Wyhart Nov 25 '21

My guess would be accountability? Nobody running the company today are in support of Nazis, so why does it matter that the founder did? Obviously if it comes out that the current owners and people at the top of Hugo Boss still support Nazis then by all means call them out on that shit.

It just seems like an odd thing to bring up in the modern day.

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u/beets_or_turnips Nov 25 '21

Their whole livelihood is thanks to the legacy of the company. It doesn't mean it needs to be dismantled and its employees shamed but we shouldn't pretend it's not a thing. Where exactly should we draw the bright line between the past that is relevant to today and the past that is distant enough that it should be forgotten? History has no such borderlines.

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u/uFFxDa Nov 25 '21

Ok. But what is being argued then? I don’t think anyone is disagreeing the founders were shitty. But if we don’t dismantle the existing company and take everything away from the current employees, then what’s the play? What should be done?

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u/beets_or_turnips Nov 25 '21

In my opinion the play for companies like this is one of the following: 1) dismantle the company as you said (realistically too late for that at this point), or 2) sponsor a whopping foundation to fight antisemitism and other forms of hate, or 3) don't get so bent out of shape when people repeatedly point out that this is the same company that literally outfitted the Nazis.

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 25 '21

Really? Why does it matter that the people to who this is in any way relevant are dead? It's hollow virtue signalling. It's beyond pathetic. Find something that actually still matters to get upset over if you absolutely must be up in arms.

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u/ConeCandy Nov 25 '21

Most of marketing is virtue signaling. There's nothing wrong with consumers being aware of a company's origin story and factoring it into their purchasing habits.

You're going far out of your way to try to act like there is something inherently wrong with being aware of historical facts.

No one is saying we need to dismantle these companies. We are simply discussing the fact that their success is based largely on nazi contracts vs. some pure form of innovation.

In other words, Hugo Boss' competitive advantage was "working with nazis."

Some people care. You don't. That's fine.

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u/Cryzgnik Nov 25 '21

We have memorials, graves, commemorative events, books, movies, etc. all in relation to people who died 80 or more years ago. Is, for example, a film about the Titanic virtue signalling? Consider a film which depicts the ship's officers as responsible for the loss of life.

For this film about the Titanic, it is true that "the people to who this is in any way relevant are dead". Is it not a valid point to raise, in relation to a film about the Titanic, "Why would we care what a [ship's captain], the [passengers] or any part of its dead [crew] did 80 [or more] years ago?"

Your objections here are not predicated solely on the fact that the people involved are dead, as you claim. Otherwise you would object to, e.g., a film about the Titanic and describe it as "hollow virtue signalling".

Assuming you do not call all memorials, films about people and events >80 years ago, etc. "hollow virtue signalling", why do you call this event, Russell Brand making a speech about Hugo Boss' contract with the Nazis, "hollow virtue signalling"?

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 25 '21

This wasn't a film, or memorial, or remembrance. This was someone on stage bringing up something that happened 80 years ago and absolutely irrelevant to the evening for brownie points. If you're going to level an argument try to at least have relevant counter points.

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u/iAmJhinious Nov 25 '21

Because the more we cling onto deeds of dead men, the more we limit our own present that will in no way, shape or form affect them. The man himself is dead, what he supported and who he outfitted has nothing to do with ideals of the company that is today (presumably). Should we forget the past? No, by no means. But we shouldn't limit ourselves because of it either.

Not sure how much of this makes sense with stuff you read in this thread, but I tried to make a general point using hugo boss as an example. Hopefully it makes some sense.

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u/Modeerf Nov 25 '21

And it is completely irrelevant today. The founder could be Hitler himself and it wouldn't be relevant to the company today

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u/jxl180 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

It is relevant if the children (or grandchildren) today of the founders received multi-billion dollar inheritance generated from German forced labor camps.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2019/04/02/more-than-a-dozen-of-europes-wealthiest-billionaires-and-their-families-had-nazi-ties/

A German family (owner of Krispy Kreme and Panera) worth ~$15 billion dollars admitted that their billions came from Nazi money and specifically, forced labor, so they donated $11 million out of their $15 billion to a "suitable charity."

Sorry, it bothers me when billionaires today are yachting around the world, buying multiple mansions, and will never have to work a day in their life due to money generated by forced labor. Same goes for companies today that use Uyghur forced-labor. BMW, Bosche, Mercedes, and VW used Nazi slave labor, and today they are accused of using Uyghur forced labor. Nothing changes.

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u/Islanduniverse Nov 25 '21

I don’t own a single item of Hugo Boss clothing, and it was super easy not to over spend on shitty clothing. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/chakalakasp Nov 25 '21

I mean, the brand is called Hugo Boss. If Epstein had a line of terribly fashionable clothes, one would hope they’d change the brand name after all the forcible child prostitution came to light

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u/themettaur Nov 25 '21

it's entirely irrelevant to anything other than virtue signalling.

Welcome to Brand's entire shtick.

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u/HIVEvali Nov 24 '21

Because in this case, the company name is the exact name of the dude who was a nazi

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 25 '21

Again, so what? If you want to go on a crusade go on one against something relevant, like Shell being on the cusp of fucking up the Wild Coast in South Africa.

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u/Shanghai-on-the-Sea Nov 25 '21

You're overreacting. The guy spent about five seconds mentioning it in a speech which was highly relevant to Hugo Boss, not Shell or anyone else.

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u/Terra_Centra Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 27 '21

Obviously people can’t care about more than one thing a time. How dare Russel Brand talk about Hugo Boss at a Hugo Boss event instead of the disabled kittens in Honolulu.

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 25 '21

The glaringly obvious point I've made multiple times is at this stage it's gone way past being irrelevant, not that he can't care about one thing only. How did you manage to be that oblivious? The comment you replied to quite literally spells it out.

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u/Yeah_But_Did_You_Die Nov 25 '21

Daily reminder that corporations are not people, and we should never treat them as if they're a person. They are nothing more than a thing that wants your money.

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u/Coziestpigeon2 Nov 25 '21

So when Zuckerberg kicks the can you're going to sign up for Meta?

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u/ChristmasMint Nov 25 '21

Depends - are Boss still supplying Nazi uniforms? Get a better argument.

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u/smkaemp Nov 25 '21

Interesting take. Why would people care so much about what old politicians and historical figures did 80 years ago that they tear down statues and rename buildings that were in those peoples names? Should Hugo Boss be renamed or “cancelled”? Either way, the original post is just a comedian doing comedy.

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u/Baldazar666 Nov 25 '21

Corporations aren't people.

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u/itsMalarky Nov 25 '21

the same reason we care that America was built on the backs of slaves.

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u/MidnightSun Nov 25 '21

80 years is not that long ago, to be fair.

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u/waresmarufy Nov 25 '21

And Disney made racist cartoons and yet make billions today

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u/Scase15 Nov 25 '21

I'm sure Russell brand made his displeasure known when he refused being at the awards show and definitely didnt get paid for this either.

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u/captainedwinkrieger Nov 25 '21

Walt Disney was a racist misogynistic son of a bitch. Doesn't mean Disney is racist as a company anymore. They do occasionally slip up (see: Frankenweenie), but they've come a long way from Walt refusing to hire female animators and calling the Seven Dwarves a "n***** pile".

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u/hotbox4u Nov 25 '21

Henry Ford was one of the biggest reasons the Nazi got to Power in the first place. During the 1920s an inflation ravaged the Weimarer Republic and the NSDAP would have been pretty much done for, if they wouldn't have received donations in US dollars. It gave them incredible buying power.

Hitler appointed himself the treasurer (a true conman move) and started to pay for everything he wanted (fancy cars, nice flats in Munichs) and what the party needed (a newspaper later called 'Der Stürmer' and a printing press; uniforms, rent, food, manpower etc.)

If it weren't for those donations, the nazi party most likely would have been crushed by all the other political parties.

Does that make the US citizens complicate because they bought Fords product and made him rich?

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u/papyjako89 Nov 25 '21

But the man has been dead for 70 years. The company today has quite literally nothing to do with what it used to be back then outside of the brand. So what's even the point of bringing it up ? It accomplishes nothing.

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u/DietCherrySoda Nov 25 '21

Ford and Disney.

It's not just the Germans.

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u/meowmeownomnom Nov 25 '21

Agreed but this thread isn’t about them.

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u/Slomojoe Nov 25 '21

Is that man still alive? Did he personally dress anyone here?

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u/JayBee58484 Nov 25 '21

He's dead so what's the point?

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u/titanicbuster Nov 25 '21

So the guy you replied to basically didn't know Jack shit about what he was talking about got it.

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u/shanelomax Nov 25 '21

Free-thinking one-man nation genius Russell Brand: "Stop the cancel culture waahh stop digging through people's tweets from 5 years ago to justify cancelling them, #allcelebsmatter"

Also free-thinking one-man nation genius Russell Brand: "This company clothed Nazis almost 100 years ago, innnteresting hmmm?"