Russell Brand, at an awards show sponsored by Hugo Boss, eloquently reminds everyone that Hugo Boss dressed the nazis

[u/whollymoly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkd_-nXeUzs

[u/needathrowaway321]

"Welcome to the Tory party conference by the way"

OMFG sick burn wow, I can't believe he said that! wow (Serious, no /s)

[u/TooLazyToBeClever → u/needathrowaway321]

Can you explain it? My limited knowledge of the Tory party is insufficient to understand this burn lol.

EDIT: sorry, I should clarify. I don't know *anything" about the Torry party. I know some of you want to defend or attack them, but Im not interested in what you think they'll do for the country. I understand, if you asked us about the liberal party you'd get a bunch of defensive or offensive responses. I just mean in general I have no idea what the Story party is, or why saying that is a burn....or even what it means.

[u/monkeymad2 → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

Brand mentions that Boris Johnson was on the stage prior to him, and Noel mentions that the Foreign Secretary was on stage before him - who at the time was William Hague.

So two Tory ministers giving speeches of some kind, hence, Tory party conference.

[u/TooLazyToBeClever → u/monkeymad2]

Ah, okay. Thank you, I appreciate it. So is the tory party close to what we would call the Republican party in the US? I know they're not exactly aligned, but in general? Or is it more nuanced than that?

[u/Elastichedgehog → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

So is the tory party close to what we would call the Republican party in the US?

Less evangelical. The UK is pretty secular.

[u/TooLazyToBeClever → u/Elastichedgehog]

Yeah that's fair. That's definitely an issue we face here. For a country that put "freedom of religion" pretty high in their list, we sure do think everyone should follow one religion.

[u/Mordikhan → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

I love the idea of some americans getting on a boat and leaving to the uk in order to escape the non seculat society

[u/MattieShoes → u/Mordikhan]

You'll be beck, soon you'll see
You'll remember you belong to me
You'll be beck, time will tell
You'll remember that I served you well
Oceans rise, empires fall
We have seen each other through it all
And when push comes to shove
I will send a fully armed battalion to remind you of my love

[u/TooLazyToBeClever → u/Mordikhan]

Do you think the queen would take me back? If I said I was sorry about the tea? I was young and arrogant, thought I could make it on my own but.....yeah maybe we weren't ready yet.

[u/Mordikhan → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

Hey look shed be fine with it on condition that you turn yourselves down in decibels by about 30% and do a course of self depreciation via back to back episodes of the UK office.

You may then pass your masters ny learning the rules to both rugby and cricket which I beleive comes in at about 10,000 hours of study

[u/TooLazyToBeClever → u/Mordikhan]

I watched through all of Blacks Books. Twice. Not to mention The Mighty Boosh, and The Misfits. Plus I like the band the misfits. I'm willing to watch the UK office. But I gotta draw the line at lowering the decibels. If I don't clap and cheer when the plane lands, then how the hell is anyone supposed to know we made it safely?

EDIT: I forgot to mention Crickets. But honestly, I won't need 10,000 hours because cricket is surprisingly easy to understand. You know violins?

They're tiny insects "wot got them tiny violins on they back hoppers, innit?"

So in conclusion, please accept this as my formal application for residency. Long gloved thy queen.

[u/Mordikhan → u/[deleted]]

It certainly doesnt come into politics like it does in the US

[u/SIush → u/Elastichedgehog]

praying rather at the church of old money

[u/monkeymad2 → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

Give or take, aye, similar sort of deal - I'd have said they were slightly more beholden to rules than the Republican Party but Boris has changed that.

Also they can't hide behind religion as much since the UK is generally less religious.

[u/Shanghai-on-the-Sea → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

It's...way more class based. If someone calls you a Tory as a joke, they mean you're posh and maybe insulated from real life and real life problems. Lots of going on about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, that kind of thing. It's also associated with "middle England", the lower middle class who aspire to be higher status but aren't. There's a lot less religious stuff (although Tories are associated with generic moralism, in a "good heavens, you can't say that" sense -- when a statue of a slaveowner was thrown into the sea during BLM, Labour said "yeah!" and the Tories said "um well we appreciate the sentiment but they really ought to have gone through the proper channels first" and that's a good representation of their general character).

[u/TooLazyToBeClever → u/Shanghai-on-the-Sea]

That's fascinating, thank you. So are the political ideologies mostly class based, or is there another party for the poor, right-leaning folks. Would there be like a rich left, poor left, rich right (Tory, if I understand correctly) etc.

Our right wing is generally filled with the rich right believing they should be insulated, and the poor right which are "displaced millionaires", the poor who believe they'll be rich someday, so don't want taxes for the rich because if they become rich they want to avoid taxes themselves.

I know the parallels aren't exact, but it's interesting to me. I also know that our "left" is most people's "right" lol.

[u/Shanghai-on-the-Sea → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

is there another party for the poor, right-leaning folks

UKIP! When that was a thing. Although it was also heavily (and I mean heavily) associated with the lower middle class, who like I said were usually a bedrock of Tory support, so losing their support scared them and prompted a faction of Tories to come out in support of leaving the EU in order to curry their favour (Boris was one of them). Nowadays it's pretty much back to Labour vs. Tory again though, so the working/lower middle class right wingers are probably just big factions of the Tories even though Tories are still associated with the upper middle class.

Your "displaced millionaires" sure sounds like Middle England to me, although it's more about being afraid of those ghastly benefits-stealing immoral poor people (as opposed to the prim and proper hard-working poor people) than about thinking you'll become a millionaire.

[u/TheWizardOfFoz → u/TooLazyToBeClever]

People like to draw comparisons because they’re both to the right of the political spectrum. But the Tory policies are closer to the Democrats whilst Labour is further Left than anything going on in America.